Comments on: Nuconomy Emerges To Provide Next Generation Site Analytics http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/ Startup and Tech News Mon, 12 May 2008 08:52:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: www.teletubis.info » Blog Archive » Stats Junkies Get Another Fix: Woopra http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-2065180 www.teletubis.info » Blog Archive » Stats Junkies Get Another Fix: Woopra Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:10:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-2065180 [...] just one of the features of new stats/analytics startup Woopra. Think Google Analytics or Nuconomy, but in real [...] […] just one of the features of new stats/analytics startup Woopra. Think Google Analytics or Nuconomy, but in real […]

]]> By: Stats Junkies Get Another Fix: Woopra http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-2064996 Stats Junkies Get Another Fix: Woopra Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:08:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-2064996 [...] just one of the features of new stats/analytics startup Woopra. Think Google Analytics or Nuconomy, but in real [...] […] just one of the features of new stats/analytics startup Woopra. Think Google Analytics or Nuconomy, but in real […]

]]> By: CG http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-2018746 CG Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:27:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-2018746 Gang- Enough with the 'ajax kills my ranking' already. Does your business run on ranking? Your business probably doesn't run on ranking or page hits. You only need 1 hit: the conversion event. GA is good for giving some visibility into what happens after a user hits your site, but it's built primarily to support measuring Adsense campaigns. You can use Goog's website optimizer to perform multivariate analysis on your site features that support post-conversion events. A mountain of data won't help you too much either. You need to know what questions to be asking before any analytics package becomes valuable. Nuconomy might have something interesting to offer if it reveals hidden opportunities: either via correlations or by showing user-specific data unavailable in GA. But it'll be a mess without someone modeling the behaviors worth tracking. I'll give it a try. CG Gang-

Enough with the ‘ajax kills my ranking’ already. Does your business run on ranking? Your business probably doesn’t run on ranking or page hits. You only need 1 hit: the conversion event.

GA is good for giving some visibility into what happens after a user hits your site, but it’s built primarily to support measuring Adsense campaigns. You can use Goog’s website optimizer to perform multivariate analysis on your site features that support post-conversion events.

A mountain of data won’t help you too much either. You need to know what questions to be asking before any analytics package becomes valuable. Nuconomy might have something interesting to offer if it reveals hidden opportunities: either via correlations or by showing user-specific data unavailable in GA. But it’ll be a mess without someone modeling the behaviors worth tracking.

I’ll give it a try.

CG

]]> By: Kfir Pravda http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-2004059 Kfir Pravda Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:11:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-2004059 A hands on review on this product - and short explanation why I think it is great: http://swadireport.com/index.php/2008/02/20/nuconomy-gives-you-business-knowledge-not-analytics/ A hands on review on this product - and short explanation why I think it is great:
http://swadireport.com/index.p.....analytics/

]]> By: Anil http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1991388 Anil Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:31:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1991388 The product looks amazing! looking forward for the beta! Great work folks Anil The product looks amazing!
looking forward for the beta!
Great work folks

Anil

]]> By: Yosi Taguri http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1985393 Yosi Taguri Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:21:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1985393 Richard, Thank you for the kind words! Yosi Taguri VP R&D and Social Thinker nuconomy Richard,
Thank you for the kind words!

Yosi Taguri
VP R&D and Social Thinker
nuconomy

]]> By: Richard Kligman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1985367 Richard Kligman Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:38:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1985367 I met these guys on the tour, not only is their product amazing, but they are great people to work with as well! Good luck guys! I met these guys on the tour, not only is their product amazing, but they are great people to work with as well! Good luck guys!

]]> By: Brian http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984933 Brian Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:02:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984933 <a href="http://www.tagsum.com/news/10239/Nuconomy-Emerges-To-Provide-Next-Generation-Site-Analytics" rel="nofollow">Nuconomy Emerges To Provide Next Generation Site Analytics</a> Nuconomy Emerges To Provide Next Generation Site Analytics

]]> By: June Dershewitz http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984871 June Dershewitz Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:15:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984871 It's great to see a new web analytics solution enter the mix. Yes, we are able to track non-page-view actions with existing tools, including Google Analytics. The difficult part, I think, is figuring out *which* non-page-view actions we ought to track, setting up that tracking so it works properly, and then feeding it back to the business in a useful way. If Nuconomy's offering puts us closer to that ideal, fantastic. It will set the bar higher for every vendor. June Dershewitz http://june.typepad.com/ It’s great to see a new web analytics solution enter the mix. Yes, we are able to track non-page-view actions with existing tools, including Google Analytics. The difficult part, I think, is figuring out *which* non-page-view actions we ought to track, setting up that tracking so it works properly, and then feeding it back to the business in a useful way. If Nuconomy’s offering puts us closer to that ideal, fantastic. It will set the bar higher for every vendor.

June Dershewitz
http://june.typepad.com/

]]> By: Yosi Taguri http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984861 Yosi Taguri Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:03:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984861 Ian, We got your request. You should have gotten an email confirmation. we will also add a confirmation page. Thanks for the feedback, Yosi Taguri VP R&D and Social Thinker nuconomy Ian,
We got your request.

You should have gotten an email confirmation.
we will also add a confirmation page.

Thanks for the feedback,

Yosi Taguri
VP R&D and Social Thinker
nuconomy

]]> By: rubu http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984817 rubu Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:02:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984817 The use o cookies. Some providers are using first party cookies (like us) and some 3rd party cookies. 3rd party cookies are much less accurate as they get blocked many times. The use o cookies. Some providers are using first party cookies (like us) and some 3rd party cookies. 3rd party cookies are much less accurate as they get blocked many times.

]]> By: Ian Thomas http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984809 Ian Thomas Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:51:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984809 Yes, the beta signup form is a little terse - I assume I've submitted the request (had exactly the same experience as Steve with the page refreshing and no confirmation that the form info had been posted). Shahar, can you check if I'm in the queue now? ;-) Ian Thomas Microsoft Yes, the beta signup form is a little terse - I assume I’ve submitted the request (had exactly the same experience as Steve with the page refreshing and no confirmation that the form info had been posted). Shahar, can you check if I’m in the queue now? ;-)

Ian Thomas
Microsoft

]]> By: michael addicott http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984754 michael addicott Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:51:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984754 while you can track actions in Flash with GA, this is not real time and for gadgets/widgets you can probably do something with javascript. The trick would be balancing the features of high end packages with something economical or free, preferably in one solution. should be extensive visualization opportunities in this area while you can track actions in Flash with GA, this is not real time and for gadgets/widgets you can probably do something with javascript. The trick would be balancing the features of high end packages with something economical or free, preferably in one solution. should be extensive visualization opportunities in this area

]]> By: Derek http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984750 Derek Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:48:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984750 Might want to checkout Scout (http://scoutapp.com), which lets you monitor, graph, and track just about anything (from unique visitors to the server load). You can write your own plugins for Scout as well. Derek Haynes Co-Founder, Scout Might want to checkout Scout (http://scoutapp.com), which lets you monitor, graph, and track just about anything (from unique visitors to the server load).

You can write your own plugins for Scout as well.

Derek Haynes
Co-Founder, Scout

]]> By: Ben Krull http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984702 Ben Krull Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:11:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984702 The biggest challenge in web analytics right now is adding meaning to the massive amount of data that can be tracked. Nuconomy will do well if they can accomplish this in a user friendly way. The biggest challenge in web analytics right now is adding meaning to the massive amount of data that can be tracked. Nuconomy will do well if they can accomplish this in a user friendly way.

]]> By: Allen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984662 Allen Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:20:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984662 isaac, You have to find a balance between providing a rich user experience, sometimes at the expense of raw page view data, which impacts those Alexa and Compete.com type rankings. others, Google Analytics can track AJAX calls - you just need to call the appropriate AdSense function from within the function set in the onreadystatechange propery. Example: ... xmlHttp.onreadystatechange = handleContent; ... function handleContent() { if(xmlHttp.readyState == 4) { document.getElementById("id").innerHTML=xmlHttp.responseText pageTracker._trackPageview("ajax page called"); } else { document.getElementById("id").innerHTML = "something" } } At any rate, I welcome new technologies and am always looking for improvements. Don't get too wrapped up in Alexa-type rankings, however. They don't do much for a site. isaac,
You have to find a balance between providing a rich user experience, sometimes at the expense of raw page view data, which impacts those Alexa and Compete.com type rankings.

others,
Google Analytics can track AJAX calls - you just need to call the appropriate AdSense function from within the function set in the onreadystatechange propery. Example:

…
xmlHttp.onreadystatechange = handleContent;
…

function handleContent() {
if(xmlHttp.readyState == 4) {
document.getElementById(”id”).innerHTML=xmlHttp.responseText
pageTracker._trackPageview(”ajax page called”);
} else {
document.getElementById(”id”).innerHTML = “something”
}
}

At any rate, I welcome new technologies and am always looking for improvements. Don’t get too wrapped up in Alexa-type rankings, however. They don’t do much for a site.

]]> By: Yosi Taguri http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984653 Yosi Taguri Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:13:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984653 Gabriel, That was exactly our intention - thanks for validating it :) Yosi Taguri, VP R&D and Social Thinker nuconomy Gabriel,
That was exactly our intention - thanks for validating it :)

Yosi Taguri,
VP R&D and Social Thinker
nuconomy

]]> By: Gabriel http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984345 Gabriel Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:00:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1984345 seems like a great services ! it's about time we get some normal statistics instead of the boring but useless hits only statistics. hopefully now we will be able to get all the info that will allow us to make educated decisions about our sites... seems like a service long expected ! Thanks ! seems like a great services ! it’s about time we get some normal statistics instead of the boring but useless hits only statistics. hopefully now we will be able to get all the info that will allow us to make educated decisions about our sites…
seems like a service long expected ! Thanks !

]]> By: Shahar Nechmad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983367 Shahar Nechmad Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:17:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983367 Steve - Sorry for the confusion... I hope it won't happen again. Feel free to contactme directly and I will help you get access to ur beta. My email is shahar at nuconomy dot com. Shahar, CEO, NuConomy. Steve - Sorry for the confusion… I hope it won’t happen again.
Feel free to contactme directly and I will help you get access to ur beta. My email is shahar at nuconomy dot com.

Shahar,
CEO, NuConomy.

]]> By: tomas zeman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983347 tomas zeman Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:37:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983347 Andy Gongea : AWstats cannot be the same as google stats, because in AWstats, there is a lot of non relevant data, like web spiders etc.. I think Google stats are pretty accurate if you want to count only real human visitors. Andy Gongea : AWstats cannot be the same as google stats, because in AWstats, there is a lot of non relevant data, like web spiders etc..
I think Google stats are pretty accurate if you want to count only real human visitors.

]]> By: Sampath http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983342 Sampath Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:28:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983342 This is a very good news for all of us. I was looking for a more talented service than Google Analytics. This is a very good news for all of us. I was looking for a more talented service than Google Analytics.

]]> By: isaac http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983338 isaac Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:08:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983338 I wanted to try ajax on my website but I need more page view to boost my stat. good to see this thing I wanted to try ajax on my website but I need more page view to boost my stat.

good to see this thing

]]> By: Shahar Nechmad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983337 Shahar Nechmad Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:07:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983337 Andy, Yakov - You right. a lot of the times we see big differences between the information of different analytics providers. There are a number of reasons for that, but the two main ones are probably: - The use o cookies. Some providers are using first party cookies (like us) and some 3rd party cookies. 3rd party cookies are much less accurate as they get blocked many times. - the lack of standards. There is still a big lack of standards on how to measure things. Even the terms used for different reports are very different from one product to another. The web analytics association and the IAB are working to create more industry standards, but this is just taking a very long time. We believe that the future lies behind counting page views. Traffic is king but ROI is god. As sites gets more and more rich functionality we want to not just really understand our users but also how to cultivate those insights into better web experiences Shahar Nechmad CEO, NuConomy. Andy, Yakov -
You right. a lot of the times we see big differences between the information of different analytics providers. There are a number of reasons for that, but the two main ones are probably:
- The use o cookies. Some providers are using first party cookies (like us) and some 3rd party cookies. 3rd party cookies are much less accurate as they get blocked many times.
- the lack of standards. There is still a big lack of standards on how to measure things. Even the terms used for different reports are very different from one product to another.
The web analytics association and the IAB are working to create more industry standards, but this is just taking a very long time.

We believe that the future lies behind counting page views. Traffic is king but ROI is god. As sites gets more and more rich functionality we want to not just really understand our users but also how to cultivate those insights into better web experiences

Shahar Nechmad
CEO, NuConomy.

]]> By: Ouriel Ohayon http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983330 Ouriel Ohayon Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:59:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983330 congrats to Shachar/ Yosi and Nuconomy. I think you guys are on to something congrats to Shachar/ Yosi and Nuconomy. I think you guys are on to something

]]> By: not going to spam my blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983324 not going to spam my blog Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:42:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/nuconomy-emerges-to-provide-next-generation-site-analytics/#comment-1983324 I think they need some work on their sign up process - I signed up for Beta, the page refreshed, there was some text that I couldn't read that disappeared and then their home page again so I am not sure what happened to my sign-up ... Thanks Steve I think they need some work on their sign up process
- I signed up for Beta,
the page refreshed, there was some text that I couldn’t read that disappeared
and then their home page again

so I am not sure what happened to my sign-up …

Thanks
Steve

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