Comments on: Microsoft Responds http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:48:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: » Microsoft resonds to Yahoo’s Rejection BINC Blog: The BINC Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1991353 » Microsoft resonds to Yahoo’s Rejection BINC Blog: The BINC Blog Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:14:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1991353 [...] battle continues, Microsoft responded today to the rejection they recieved from Yahoo!.  What will be the next move in this game?  [...] [...] battle continues, Microsoft responded today to the rejection they recieved from Yahoo!.  What will be the next move in this game?  [...]

]]> By: uploadchoice http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985972 uploadchoice Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:26:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985972 Now this is prestige issue for MS, I guess, they will try by any means to acquire Yahoo! Now this is prestige issue for MS, I guess, they will try by any means to acquire Yahoo!

]]> By: Kyle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985961 Kyle Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:21:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985961 You're right on with the strategic maneuvering in the press...Both parties are following the transaction communications manifesto... You’re right on with the strategic maneuvering in the press…Both parties are following the transaction communications manifesto…

]]> By: seric.at/blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985882 seric.at/blog Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:35:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985882 <strong>Microsofts Antwort auf Yahoos Ablehnung...</strong> Nachdem Yahoo! das Angebot zur Übernahme durch Microsoft abgelehnt hat, reagierte Microsoft mit folgender (interessanten) Pressemeldung: MICROSOFT RESPONDS TO YAHOO! ANNOUNCEMENT Reiterates Full and Fair Proposal for Microsoft-Yahoo! Combination REDMO... Microsofts Antwort auf Yahoos Ablehnung…

Nachdem Yahoo! das Angebot zur Übernahme durch Microsoft abgelehnt hat, reagierte Microsoft mit folgender (interessanten) Pressemeldung:
MICROSOFT RESPONDS TO YAHOO! ANNOUNCEMENT
Reiterates Full and Fair Proposal for Microsoft-Yahoo! Combination
REDMO…

]]> By: For Evolution http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985586 For Evolution Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:20:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985586 <strong>Réponse de Microsoft suite à la proposition pour racheter Yahoo...</strong> Pour continuer avec le billet d'hier annonçant le refus de la proposition de Microsoft pour le rachat de Yahoo. Aujourd'hui arrive une réponse froide de Microsoft comme quoi ils considèrent leur proposition honnête. Celle-ci permettant par la mê... Réponse de Microsoft suite à la proposition pour racheter Yahoo…

Pour continuer avec le billet d’hier annonçant le refus de la proposition de Microsoft pour le rachat de Yahoo. Aujourd’hui arrive une réponse froide de Microsoft comme quoi ils considèrent leur proposition honnête. Celle-ci permettant par la mê…

]]> By: Shaheer http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985559 Shaheer Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:01:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985559 Where's the EU and their anti-competitive speech? I'm still wondering why they haven't come up with an objection. If they merge, just how many companies will provide good competition? (not including the young startups, if any are related, since they are minor players... and considering Google/MS/Y! wrath, small start ups will face a hard time). Besides, speaking of startups, the only thing they DON'T need right now is two bulky organizations merging to form a gorilla. If that does happen, not only will there be mayhem (as expressed by Google in different words) but the new giant on the block won't let the young companies an umbrella to work in. But I'm more concerned what the EU thinks about this. Isn't this forming an anti-competitive market? And personally speaking, I don't want two slow email systems (compared with Gmail) merging into one... needless to say both have ads that cover half of the screen... yes, what I may like is the increased pretty-ness of the email systems. Oh - and for everyone on Y!/MS, *if* the email systems merge, prepare yourself with a revolver to shoot spam ;) Where’s the EU and their anti-competitive speech? I’m still wondering why they haven’t come up with an objection. If they merge, just how many companies will provide good competition? (not including the young startups, if any are related, since they are minor players… and considering Google/MS/Y! wrath, small start ups will face a hard time).

Besides, speaking of startups, the only thing they DON’T need right now is two bulky organizations merging to form a gorilla. If that does happen, not only will there be mayhem (as expressed by Google in different words) but the new giant on the block won’t let the young companies an umbrella to work in.

But I’m more concerned what the EU thinks about this. Isn’t this forming an anti-competitive market?

And personally speaking, I don’t want two slow email systems (compared with Gmail) merging into one… needless to say both have ads that cover half of the screen… yes, what I may like is the increased pretty-ness of the email systems.

Oh - and for everyone on Y!/MS, *if* the email systems merge, prepare yourself with a revolver to shoot spam ;)

]]> By: Steve http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985355 Steve Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:05:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985355 It's so easy to say: Yahoo is stupid, noobs, not grateful... based on the premium...blah blah blah. If you just calm down and put some thoughts into it, you would understand they are just trying to "maximize their shareholders value" by milking for a higher price. Knowing that Microsoft really wants it and is willing to "pursue all necessary steps" (that means they won't walk away from the deal easily), Yahoo is actually in a pretty good position to ask for a better deal. Do you know that Microsoft did actually propose $40/share way back ago? Words are Microsoft might go for $35. Also, everybody knows the first bid won't be the only bid. They might be down, but they aren't dumb. Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers aren't dumb either. They might get their $40 or they might fall flat on their backs. But it's all business. It's all about the money. Watch and learn, one way or another. Don't kick them when they are down. Remember, they are the one who received a hostile takeover. It’s so easy to say: Yahoo is stupid, noobs, not grateful… based on the premium…blah blah blah. If you just calm down and put some thoughts into it, you would understand they are just trying to “maximize their shareholders value” by milking for a higher price. Knowing that Microsoft really wants it and is willing to “pursue all necessary steps” (that means they won’t walk away from the deal easily), Yahoo is actually in a pretty good position to ask for a better deal. Do you know that Microsoft did actually propose $40/share way back ago? Words are Microsoft might go for $35. Also, everybody knows the first bid won’t be the only bid. They might be down, but they aren’t dumb. Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers aren’t dumb either.

They might get their $40 or they might fall flat on their backs. But it’s all business. It’s all about the money. Watch and learn, one way or another. Don’t kick them when they are down. Remember, they are the one who received a hostile takeover.

]]> By: links for 2008-02-12 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985317 links for 2008-02-12 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:29:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985317 [...] Microsoft Responds [...] [...] Microsoft Responds [...]

]]> By: Trader Lee http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985316 Trader Lee Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:29:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985316 Take over yahoo. I think should balance the dominance of google in internet world. Google should also create a balance for MS in OS world. Take over yahoo. I think should balance the dominance of google in internet world. Google should also create a balance for MS in OS world.

]]> By: blah http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985281 blah Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:31:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985281 yahoo's investment in japan and alibaba is alone 10$ worth. 60% premium is just bullshit, yhoo was 33 couple of months back and 31$ is just 15% above yhoo's mean over the last year. ballmer just nailed in the correct time after yahoo announced its 4Q results. and it made public , so share holders will not refuse over the so called premium. just 2 weeks before yahoo announced its 4Q results MS was ready to give 35$/share(courtesy: alleyinsider.com) yahoo’s investment in japan and alibaba is alone 10$ worth. 60% premium is just bullshit, yhoo was 33 couple of months back and 31$ is just 15% above yhoo’s mean over the last year. ballmer just nailed in the correct time after yahoo announced its 4Q results. and it made public , so share holders will not refuse over the so called premium.
just 2 weeks before yahoo announced its 4Q results MS was ready to give 35$/share(courtesy: alleyinsider.com)

]]> By: YDRIVE http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985249 YDRIVE Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:18:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985249 Lots of potentials either way... Google need to watch out... ;-) Lots of potentials either way… Google need to watch out… ;-)

]]> By: sourceroot http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985244 sourceroot Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:03:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985244 @42 "Internet’s geezers" never thought of it like that :( @42 “Internet’s geezers” never thought of it like that :(

]]> By: Iqbal http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985234 Iqbal Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:44:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985234 This battle seems to be about the management and the shareholders, surely there is another group in the yahoo camp who could sway this in either direction, and that is the employees. Without the people yahoo is really nothing, and MS can spend billion and decades in time and not work out what yahoo is about without the team. So I guess its really down to the team at yahoo, I cant see the php team wanting to port over to ASP, its about time they got together and stood behind yahoo. This battle seems to be about the management and the shareholders, surely there is another group in the yahoo camp who could sway this in either direction, and that is the employees. Without the people yahoo is really nothing, and MS can spend billion and decades in time and not work out what yahoo is about without the team.

So I guess its really down to the team at yahoo, I cant see the php team wanting to port over to ASP, its about time they got together and stood behind yahoo.

]]> By: Vlad Mazek http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985213 Vlad Mazek Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:21:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985213 @ #10: Can I have some of what you're smoking? Yahoo Messenger, Groups, Flickr, Search, Local, Maps, Music and movies turning into a social network? Smoke on brother, not gonna happen. Those technologies are acquisitions of technologies used by the PREVIOUS Internet Generation, the same that wants nothing to do with the social networking. Same with friendster, orkut, picasa and other crap that used to be #1 and got smashed by what the high school and college kids now use. You can't have a social network if nobody in your network wants to be social and your sites appeal to Internet's geezers :) -Vlad @ #10:

Can I have some of what you’re smoking?

Yahoo Messenger, Groups, Flickr, Search, Local, Maps, Music and movies turning into a social network? Smoke on brother, not gonna happen. Those technologies are acquisitions of technologies used by the PREVIOUS Internet Generation, the same that wants nothing to do with the social networking.

Same with friendster, orkut, picasa and other crap that used to be #1 and got smashed by what the high school and college kids now use.

You can’t have a social network if nobody in your network wants to be social and your sites appeal to Internet’s geezers :)

-Vlad

]]> By: more tomato sauce please http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985210 more tomato sauce please Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:14:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985210 oops - should have included a link to cite my source (and give attribution) http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2008/02/11/yahoos-final-mistake.aspx oops - should have included a link to cite my source (and give attribution) http://www.fool.com/investing/.....stake.aspx

]]> By: more tomato sauce please http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985208 more tomato sauce please Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:14:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985208 Guys over at Motley Fool dialed in the real financial numbers of this transaction - you should read the article. In short, it shows that the MSFT offering is much more than a 60% premium for YHOO. YHOO, pre-Mr. Softie bid was $19. The value of their stock, and their company, includes about $12 per share worth of assets of cash and equity in various Asian tech companies. So, the market actually values YHOO at $7 per share. Take MSFT's offer of $31 per share, subtract out the same $12 for YHOO assets, and their offer of $19 a share for a $7 stock is extremely generous. MSFT has cash, has time, and has the upper hand. I would tell Commander Ballmer to sit back, wait, and take another bite in 2-3 months when the credit markets get worse, no other investor steps to the plate, and YHOO continues to misstep. MSFT's 22 billion in the bank isn't going anywhere. And no one else has the cash to make the purchase. Guys over at Motley Fool dialed in the real financial numbers of this transaction - you should read the article. In short, it shows that the MSFT offering is much more than a 60% premium for YHOO. YHOO, pre-Mr. Softie bid was $19. The value of their stock, and their company, includes about $12 per share worth of assets of cash and equity in various Asian tech companies. So, the market actually values YHOO at $7 per share. Take MSFT’s offer of $31 per share, subtract out the same $12 for YHOO assets, and their offer of $19 a share for a $7 stock is extremely generous.

MSFT has cash, has time, and has the upper hand. I would tell Commander Ballmer to sit back, wait, and take another bite in 2-3 months when the credit markets get worse, no other investor steps to the plate, and YHOO continues to misstep. MSFT’s 22 billion in the bank isn’t going anywhere. And no one else has the cash to make the purchase.

]]> By: Zmax http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985193 Zmax Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:43:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985193 Yahoo is only worth $31 to MSFT so Yahoo wants $40 or more, MSFT won;t pay it and they do not offer more so what;s next? The abrs bail and take the stock with it. Yahoo is only worth $31 to MSFT so Yahoo wants $40 or more, MSFT won;t pay it and they do not offer more so what;s next? The abrs bail and take the stock with it.

]]> By: tomthree http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985177 tomthree Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:20:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985177 the problem is that Yahoo has the pageviews but are doing a shitty job turning that into $$$. As a shareholder, I'll take the MS stock thx. the problem is that Yahoo has the pageviews but are doing a shitty job turning that into $$$. As a shareholder, I’ll take the MS stock thx.

]]> By: nitsuj http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985175 nitsuj Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:15:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985175 (oops, that should say if Yahoo...) (oops, that should say if Yahoo…)

]]> By: nitsuj http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985174 nitsuj Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:14:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985174 If is so undervalued why aren't they actively buying back shares? If is so undervalued why aren’t they actively buying back shares?

]]> By: Larry http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985164 Larry Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:57:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985164 In this case I'd say Microsoft 'could' win the war but loose the battle. In this case I’d say Microsoft ‘could’ win the war but loose the battle.

]]> By: Wes http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985153 Wes Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:41:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985153 Yahoo! can be grateful for the offer (#26) but I think they can also hold out for more money. Nothing wrong with that. I think in the end they will be purchased but for more money. Good for shareholders. Yahoo! can be grateful for the offer (#26) but I think they can also hold out for more money. Nothing wrong with that. I think in the end they will be purchased but for more money. Good for shareholders.

]]> By: Microsoft responds to Yahoo rejection « Dan’s Tech-n-Stuff Weblog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985138 Microsoft responds to Yahoo rejection « Dan’s Tech-n-Stuff Weblog Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:20:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985138 [...] [Via TechCrunch] [...] [...] [Via TechCrunch] [...]

]]> By: nitsuj http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985136 nitsuj Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:19:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985136 I agree with Duncan on this one. I agree with Duncan on this one.

]]> By: EH http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985135 EH Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:18:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/11/microsoft-responds/#comment-1985135 LOL, Brian@#1 even replied to HIS OWN POST on his own blog. "Fagsum" more like. ...and it's "Yackrosoft." Get it right! LOL, Brian@#1 even replied to HIS OWN POST on his own blog. “Fagsum” more like.

…and it’s “Yackrosoft.” Get it right!

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