Comments on: Yahoo’s Bold Whimper http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/ Startup and Technology News Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:21:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: luselle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2477151 luselle Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:44:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2477151 Yeah i like watching cards Yeah i like watching cards

]]> By: luselle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2477147 luselle Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:36:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2477147 What are you doing now ha!!!!!! What are you doing now ha!!!!!!

]]> By: luselle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2477145 luselle Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:35:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2477145 Yeah Yeah

]]> By: luselle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2477144 luselle Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:34:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2477144 luang ka//he is badoy luang ka//he is badoy

]]> By: racetalkblog.com » Jerry Yang Puts on His Poker Face: Propped by Strategic Transaction Communications http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2427402 racetalkblog.com » Jerry Yang Puts on His Poker Face: Propped by Strategic Transaction Communications Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:14:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2427402 [...] Bold, courageous and inspirational aren’t words often thrown around to describe Yahoo! CEO Jerry Yang.  However, after leaking its pending decision to reject Microsoft’s bid over the weekend to the Wall Street Journal, these descriptors for Mr. Yang are flying around today.    [...] [...] Bold, courageous and inspirational aren’t words often thrown around to describe Yahoo! CEO Jerry Yang.  However, after leaking its pending decision to reject Microsoft’s bid over the weekend to the Wall Street Journal, these descriptors for Mr. Yang are flying around today.    [...]

]]> By: Microsoft v. Yahoo: This Isn’t Even Funny Any More http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2308083 Microsoft v. Yahoo: This Isn’t Even Funny Any More Mon, 19 May 2008 07:22:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-2308083 [...] is so out-gunned in its fight to simply stay independent that it isn’t even funny anymore. Microsoft’s serious attempts to take over the company are over, even though Yahoo [...] [...] is so out-gunned in its fight to simply stay independent that it isn’t even funny anymore. Microsoft’s serious attempts to take over the company are over, even though Yahoo [...]

]]> By: Yahoo Rejects Microsoft’s Offer, Market Isn’t Fooled | Marketing Ninja http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1995367 Yahoo Rejects Microsoft’s Offer, Market Isn’t Fooled | Marketing Ninja Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:43:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1995367 [...] Mike Arrington was the one who coined the term “Yahoo’s Bold Whimper” so props to him. It’s only natural that Yahoo! would ask for more money, but as every [...] [...] Mike Arrington was the one who coined the term “Yahoo’s Bold Whimper” so props to him. It’s only natural that Yahoo! would ask for more money, but as every [...]

]]> By: Dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1989057 Dave Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:24:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1989057 As a Yahoo shareholder who bought back in 2000, I'd glad they're holding out for more... As a Yahoo shareholder who bought back in 2000, I’d glad they’re holding out for more…

]]> By: Andrew Baron http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1986109 Andrew Baron Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:51:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1986109 I guess Im just posting this for myself but I didn't understand why lawsuits would occur - now I do. I just read this article from Web Pro News: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/02/12/first-lawsuit-filed-in-microsoft-yahoo-deal "After turning down a 62 percent premium for shareholders in the form of Microsoft's takeover bid, Yahoo opened itself to litigation from unhappy stakeholders. Unhappiness manifested itself quickly as one group decided they would rather take their chances with Microsoft acquiring Yahoo, and filed a lawsuit to force Yahoo to consider takeover overtures." My next question is, how does this ruthless takeover effect the value of the end result? It seems like Yahoo people will not be happy and no matter how great the assets of Yahoo are, doesn't it need the people there to be happy and motivated to be of value to Microsoft? If everyone thinks Microsoft stinks, wont that alone kill the value of the assets? Or is Yahoo's stuff enough just by itself, without the people? I guess Im just posting this for myself but I didn’t understand why lawsuits would occur - now I do. I just read this article from Web Pro News:
http://www.webpronews.com/topn.....yahoo-deal

“After turning down a 62 percent premium for shareholders in the form of Microsoft’s takeover bid, Yahoo opened itself to litigation from unhappy stakeholders.

Unhappiness manifested itself quickly as one group decided they would rather take their chances with Microsoft acquiring Yahoo, and filed a lawsuit to force Yahoo to consider takeover overtures.”

My next question is, how does this ruthless takeover effect the value of the end result? It seems like Yahoo people will not be happy and no matter how great the assets of Yahoo are, doesn’t it need the people there to be happy and motivated to be of value to Microsoft? If everyone thinks Microsoft stinks, wont that alone kill the value of the assets?

Or is Yahoo’s stuff enough just by itself, without the people?

]]> By: monu India http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1985068 monu India Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:15:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1985068 What ever it be.. partly going with what @John said above.. retail traders (investors) in the stock would have something to smile about.. and well.. if i have to throw my hat in the ring (betting on what happens.. lol.. NOT on bidding).. i think, this juggernauts gonna be there for some time.. and till then.. the prices rises would give these people enough reasons to smile. Eventually, M$ would find something else to do and go about taking up and over other businesses (and also the criticism of existing stuff they have to make better) Yahoo founders would get more media bytes and Google would linger ON till it can figuring out its moves What ever it be.. partly going with what @John said above..

retail traders (investors) in the stock would have something to smile about..

and well.. if i have to throw my hat in the ring (betting on what happens.. lol.. NOT on bidding).. i think, this juggernauts gonna be there for some time.. and till then.. the prices rises would give these people enough reasons to smile.

Eventually, M$ would find something else to do and go about taking up and over other businesses (and also the criticism of existing stuff they have to make better)

Yahoo founders would get more media bytes and Google would linger ON till it can figuring out its moves

]]> By: Jerry Yang aka The Azn Sensation http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1983130 Jerry Yang aka The Azn Sensation Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:50:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1983130 Btw...am I not handsome? Damn my smile is hot. I am single and ready to mingle ladies! Btw…am I not handsome? Damn my smile is hot. I am single and ready to mingle ladies!

]]> By: Jerry Yang aka The Azn Sensation http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1983125 Jerry Yang aka The Azn Sensation Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:47:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1983125 Thanks for the compliment Michael. I'll be sure to give you a piece of the action. Thanks for the compliment Michael. I’ll be sure to give you a piece of the action.

]]> By: Hendra http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1983010 Hendra Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:07:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1983010 Thank god. Thank god.

]]> By: Gale http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982944 Gale Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:41:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982944 They should check this video: http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Negotiate---Tips-for-Yahoo-5794173 Funny and smart :) They should check this video:
http://www.5min.com/Video/How-.....oo-5794173

Funny and smart :)

]]> By: Money,Business.Life & Soul http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982935 Money,Business.Life & Soul Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:15:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982935 <strong>"To Be or Not To Be", Jerry Yang's Soliloquy to Ya...</strong> Some believe Microsoft won't be able to dole out more than this, so a NO for now would be very likely. Techcrunch has been firm with that view. But valley insider such as, Henry Blodget of Alleyinsider have pointed out that Microsoft are playing a wa.... “To Be or Not To Be”, Jerry Yang’s Soliloquy to Ya…

Some believe Microsoft won’t be able to dole out more than this, so a NO for now would be very likely. Techcrunch has been firm with that view. But valley insider such as, Henry Blodget of Alleyinsider have pointed out that Microsoft are playing a wa….

]]> By: exYahooEmployeeStar69 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982890 exYahooEmployeeStar69 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:18:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982890 As I've said before, this is a classic case where the Mgmt Team at Yahoo! is resisting a clear benefit to the shareholders because their jobs/reputation is on the line. There is no bold strategic plan that will save Yahoo! if it remains independent. There are still a lot of good people that work at Yahoo!, but unfortunately it is controlled by power-hungry execs with no clue. As I’ve said before, this is a classic case where the Mgmt Team at Yahoo! is resisting a clear benefit to the shareholders because their jobs/reputation is on the line. There is no bold strategic plan that will save Yahoo! if it remains independent. There are still a lot of good people that work at Yahoo!, but unfortunately it is controlled by power-hungry execs with no clue.

]]> By: Non-hater http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982880 Non-hater Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:00:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982880 What will the price of Yahoo be on Monday morning should Microsoft not respond to the Yahoo news with a higher offer? I think the stock tanks Monday morning, watch the trading in Asia tonight to get an idea as to what's to come. Microsoft should use some of the cash they have to promote MSN & Live Search more. Google is number one because the teens and college kids like the cool name, Yahoo was number one in search at one time too. Microsoft is one of the best corporations at marketing in the world, they need to start to market Live Search and MSN more to drive traffic They have Hotmail and that should be leveraged to push traffic to their search platform. It's all about execution, and they need to execute they have a good search, I like it more than Google and Yahoo. It's not riddled with useless sites that just want you to click on text ads to generate click traffic for their own pocket book. What will the price of Yahoo be on Monday morning should Microsoft not respond to the Yahoo news with a higher offer? I think the stock tanks Monday morning, watch the trading in Asia tonight to get an idea as to what’s to come. Microsoft should use some of the cash they have to promote MSN & Live Search more. Google is number one because the teens and college kids like the cool name, Yahoo was number one in search at one time too. Microsoft is one of the best corporations at marketing in the world, they need to start to market Live Search and MSN more to drive traffic They have Hotmail and that should be leveraged to push traffic to their search platform. It’s all about execution, and they need to execute they have a good search, I like it more than Google and Yahoo. It’s not riddled with useless sites that just want you to click on text ads to generate click traffic for their own pocket book.

]]> By: Arpan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982866 Arpan Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:18:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982866 Frankly, I think the deal will go through, and as others have said, is simply a ploy to extract a higher bid from Microsoft. Clearly MSFT needs this deal to go though, and thankfully, due to Yahoo's sagging stock price, probably has the big institutional shareholders on its side. If they don't end up agreeing to a higher offer, my expectation is that Yahoo's market cap will continue to sag. With weak financial markets, and threat of the sub-prime led recession, its highly likely that key corporate advertisers will cut back display advertising spending and therefore cause Yahoo to falter on the earnings front yet again. Sure they're number one in a lot of areas, but right now, simply don't have much going for them in the eyes of their major shareholders. Playing 2nd hat to Google is just a bad option. Besides, Ballmer isn't an idiot - he wants to buy the company because he recognizes its brand value. My expectation is that the deal will go through, and that MSFT will heavily favor Yahoo properties over its own. Just my two cents. -Arpan http://www.siphs.com Frankly, I think the deal will go through, and as others have said, is simply a ploy to extract a higher bid from Microsoft. Clearly MSFT needs this deal to go though, and thankfully, due to Yahoo’s sagging stock price, probably has the big institutional shareholders on its side. If they don’t end up agreeing to a higher offer, my expectation is that Yahoo’s market cap will continue to sag. With weak financial markets, and threat of the sub-prime led recession, its highly likely that key corporate advertisers will cut back display advertising spending and therefore cause Yahoo to falter on the earnings front yet again. Sure they’re number one in a lot of areas, but right now, simply don’t have much going for them in the eyes of their major shareholders. Playing 2nd hat to Google is just a bad option. Besides, Ballmer isn’t an idiot - he wants to buy the company because he recognizes its brand value. My expectation is that the deal will go through, and that MSFT will heavily favor Yahoo properties over its own.

Just my two cents.

-Arpan
http://www.siphs.com

]]> By: Tom http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982852 Tom Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:47:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982852 I could watch the MS-Yahoo dance forever, as it's going to get even better. Personally, I think the shareholders will revolt -- with a little help from Microsoft -- and the extent to which they do so will clearly determine MS' next move. However, what if MS reconsiders, doesn't try that hard, and lets Yahoo go? What does Yahoo do next? They're still sliding downhill with, frankly, no end in site. One of the non-Microsoft Yahoo "partnerships" discussed bothers me a lot more than the MS deal: http://thesmallwave.com/2008/02/09/whats-worse-than-microhoo-yahoogle/ I could watch the MS-Yahoo dance forever, as it’s going to get even better. Personally, I think the shareholders will revolt — with a little help from Microsoft — and the extent to which they do so will clearly determine MS’ next move.

However, what if MS reconsiders, doesn’t try that hard, and lets Yahoo go? What does Yahoo do next? They’re still sliding downhill with, frankly, no end in site. One of the non-Microsoft Yahoo “partnerships” discussed bothers me a lot more than the MS deal:

http://thesmallwave.com/2008/0.....-yahoogle/

]]> By: Microsoft makes an offer for Yahoo! - Page 2 - DesignersTalk http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982814 Microsoft makes an offer for Yahoo! - Page 2 - DesignersTalk Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:33:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982814 [...] apparently said Nope. Yahoo’s Bold Whimper __________________ ASP.NET web applications Web design [...] [...] apparently said Nope. Yahoo’s Bold Whimper __________________ ASP.NET web applications Web design [...]

]]> By: iguide http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982748 iguide Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:33:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982748 Still don't get the deal between yahoo and microsoft http://www.i-guide.ro Still don’t get the deal between yahoo and microsoft
http://www.i-guide.ro

]]> By: Jan Furling http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982697 Jan Furling Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:16:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982697 Yahoo has it on their home page that they will spurn Microsoft's bid http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080210/microsoft_yahoo.html Yahoo has it on their home page that they will spurn Microsoft’s bid
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080210.....yahoo.html

]]> By: Jan Furling http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982681 Jan Furling Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:39:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982681 I look at my logs and see the natural search from yahoo = zero and the natural search from google = a lot Then I ask everyone who uses yahoo for search = none. Where does their traffic actaully come from and go to? Even going to yahoo.com it's hard to figure out what they are or is it just the portal and groups that drive traffic? I look at my logs and see the natural search from yahoo = zero and the natural search from google = a lot

Then I ask everyone who uses yahoo for search = none. Where does their traffic actaully come from and go to?

Even going to yahoo.com it’s hard to figure out what they are or is it just the portal and groups that drive traffic?

]]> By: Anon2 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982485 Anon2 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:37:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982485 I agree more with the Yahoo supporters here on this post. Yahoo is #1 in a few areas. That says a lot despite Google and MSFT efforts. Yang deserves more credit and time. MSFT is not stupid. They don't buy sinking ships or loser companies. They're buying an undervalued #1 entity that will clearly help propel themselves to #1 with what will be by far the largest user base period. Yahoo was, is and if they work quickly can still be a great company in the future. I agree more with the Yahoo supporters here on this post. Yahoo is #1 in a few areas. That says a lot despite Google and MSFT efforts. Yang deserves more credit and time.

MSFT is not stupid. They don’t buy sinking ships or loser companies. They’re buying an undervalued #1 entity that will clearly help propel themselves to #1 with what will be by far the largest user base period. Yahoo was, is and if they work quickly can still be a great company in the future.

]]> By: Andrew Baron http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982414 Andrew Baron Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:04:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/09/yahoos-bold-whimper/#comment-1982414 This is exciting indeed! Being relatively new to these kinds of games myself, pardon me for asking: Why will Yahoo sue Microsoft? Is a takeover bid illegal? This is exciting indeed! Being relatively new to these kinds of games myself, pardon me for asking: Why will Yahoo sue Microsoft? Is a takeover bid illegal?

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