February 8, 2008

Yahoo Board To Determine Fate Of Company Today

Michael Arrington

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Sources have indicated to us that Yahoo has scheduled a special board of directors meeting on Friday to determine, effectively, the fate of the company. After a week of hectic negotiating, it’s clear that no one is going to step in with a competing acquisition offer to what Microsoft put on the table last Friday - $31 per share. Softbank, the last real chance for a competing bid, bowed out today and said they would not be challenging the Microsoft offer.

There are only two options left. Accept the offer in principal, and try to increase the price with no negotiating leverage at all, or do a deal with Google to outsource search advertising and, likely, search itself.

The board, we’ve heard, is basically being told by outside advisors to take the Microsoft deal. But we’ve also heard that a contingent of senior executives at Yahoo, who are willing to do literally anything to thwart a Microsoft takeover, are pushing for the Google deal and will present their case at the meeting.

Based on our discussions with insiders and analysts this week, it’s fairly clear that the Google deal would, to say the least, not be a good choice for Yahoo in the long run. But Citigroup’s Mark Mahaney gives it a 25% chance of happening anyway, based largely on an emotional response from Yahoo to remain independent at all costs.

A Google Deal - Short Term Independence/Long Term Nightmare

If Yahoo were to outsource search to Google, the immediate upside would be 25% or so to Yahoo’s cash flow in the form of increased revenues (revenue per search query would likely jump to 9 cents from 4 cents today), and cost savings from operations (servers) and headcount reduction. That may add $7 billion or so in immediate valuation, or around $5 per share, say some experts we’ve talked to (less than half the premium Microsoft is offering).

Nearly a third of Yahoo employees would be shown the door, though. Estimates are that Yahoo employees 1,500 or so people in each of search, the search advertising platform, and advertising sales and operations. All of those employees would likely be fired, unless Yahoo chose to retain its core algorithmic search product. Experts say, however, that good search and the ad platform go hand in hand. Without data from the search advertising side of the business, search itself is hobbled. It’s likely, therefore, that Yahoo would shed all of those jobs to and simply outsource all of search and search marketing to Google. Yahoo has a little over 13,000 employees today (taking into account the recently announced layoffs) - so nearly 1 in every 3 would leave.

Those revenue estimates of 9 cents per search query, though, are based on current Google revenues. It’s likely that Yahoo could negotiate most of that for themselves to get the deal. But down the road, when it’s time to renew, Yahoo will have lost all of their leverage since there will be no one other than Google to partner with. Renewal deals won’t be so sweet.

It’s also likely that Yahoo would see a gradual decline in search volume if they were to outsource to Google (as has happened with AOL, which moved to Google search in 2002 and has dropped from 30% to less than 5% market share). Expect Yahoo to take the same hit over time.

There is also the strong likelihood that any deal reached between Yahoo and Google would be rejected by U.S. regulatory authorities. In the meantime, however, all the best Yahoo search employees will have left the company to take more stable jobs. In the event the deal was rejected, Yahoo would find itself in a nightmare, having lost scores or hundreds of its best employees and without the Google revenue. Sure they’d be independent, but their stock price could be a fraction of the $19 they saw the day before the Microsoft offer.

It’s fairly certain that Yahoo will continue to use the threat of a deal with Google to try to increase Microsoft’s offer a few dollars per share. But the threat isn’t (or at least, shouldn’t be) real, and both sides know it.

Get ready for Microsoft/Yahoo. It’s happening.

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  1. Hendra

    Dear God,

    Please let it be a “NO”.
    Thank you.

  2. bos

    it is happening and stop saying dear God. i don’t understand this market sentiment against MSFT anymore, especially when GOOG is the evil one now. I work in the advertising industry and believe me, GOOG is collecting tons of data on you everyday.

  3. TheDuhMoment

    Who cares, Yahoo search sucks.

  4. Anon Y!

    Sums it up pretty well.

  5. quantum

    @3

    I don’t have too much luv for Yahoo search but it is increasingly becoming difficult to tolerate random, half baked arguments (like yours).

    i guess i agree with Andrew keen on some days when i realize that all that the internet has done is provided everyone with a megaphone and given every dunce a chance to shout (even if they have nothing of value to add ).

    darn, kick myself for even bothering to read comments .. why would anyone add anything of significance in comments.. me a dunce.

  6. Jeff Billian

    To every talented engineer at Yahoo (those that are still there):

    WHY ARE YOU STILL AT YAHOO?

    Just walk over to Google and get a stable, rewarding job with a salary that’s definitely higher than at Yahoo.

    Screw loyalty. Be loyal only to yourself.

  7. alexander Katzeff

    @ TheDuhMoment: Your comments reflects your screen name. At least have the courage to back up your comments. Are you mad because Yahoo! doesn’t bring up search results for “Teh Ediots Gide Two Serching”?

  8. Jen

    I guess we’ll see just how smart (the real) Steve Ballmer is. I’m a MSFT shareholder, and I would’ve just preferred another special dividend instead… and let YHOO continue down the retirement path on its own. If nothing else, it’d be nice if Hotmail and/or Yahoo Mail could catch up to Gmail.

  9. bos

    @ 5 and 7:

    In a nutshell my dear friends, it is a shame upon people like you and me to be associated with this blog. you see, i feel that over the years the quality of this blog has gone down drastically - pretty much like YHOO stock in the last 3 months (well, even worse!)

    By association, the readership profile has changed as well. Now, remember advertisers mostly care about uniques - the #’s - so Michael and team don’t mind. Someday they are going to sell this to another content network based on the uniques - how cares about the details of those uniques! That’s highly suspect data anyway.

    This site/blog stinks. And if you try to tell Michael that through comments, he just shouts - he’s the biggest bully! :)

    So deal with TC till a decent alternative comes along - is ANYONE listening! Please just a blog with start up news and decent analysis - no political diversions, no asinine posts about how logos have changed ….u get the point.

    PLEASE PLEASE someone do it so i can stop reading this mess.

  10. Amit Chowdhry

    I think Yahoo! should tentatively accept up the offer assuming certain limitations are negotiated into the deal. Yahoo!’s ability to operate independently should be the biggest driver for the negotiation.

    Ballmer agreed Yahoo! to remain its own brand.

    But this only makes me more curious about why MSFT would be willing to put out that much money for the company. Maybe for the same reason Google acquired YouTube? A push for integrating services with each other easily but not replacing them?

    For example, Yahoo! Music may power Microsoft Windows Media Player. Flickr integrated with Windows Live Spaces? Who knows… the integration possibilities are limitless.

  11. Yakov

    We will benefit either way they decide to move on

  12. Andy Gongea

    How about a competitive market in the search engine area.
    How about a powerful email applications
    How about more time and funds for Yahoo’s developers
    How about a new version of Windows with great social networking and web capabilities.

    I’m not pro Microsoft but I’m against Google’s dominance.

    Go Steve :D

  13. TheDuhMoment

    #7: No, I just think Yahoo search sucks (I’m not going to use the comment section of a blog for algorithm analysis, techniques in information retreival, machine learning, or any of that other stuff you can’t spell). I do like Yahoo Finance–the only reason I use Yahoo anymore.

  14. Michael

    Why does Yahoo have to make a deal at all?

  15. Boring Market

    Sounds like either choice isn’t a good long term choice, only because they are giving themselves up to someone else. We’ll see whats going to happen.

  16. techcrunchreader

    Yahoo’s board should be embarrassed of that situation. Yahoo have the biggest internet asset in the world, but it is not monetized like it should be. They concentrated their effort on Panama for too long without any impressive results. They should’ve concentrate on selling the ad space on their properties and making something out of their acquisitions ( geocities, broadcast.com, …).
    They spent billions on acquisitions, just to let them die. Yahoo still have potential, but not with the management team in place. I just hope that Microsoft is going to make something good out of Yahoo, because this is not an happy ending for the purple Y!

  17. YDRIVE

    Either way, already gained $15B over a week’s time. Not bad.

  18. wingthom

    Michael, don’t be so negative.

    If an search + search ads outsourcing occures the new service provider will need: sales people, adoperations, technical backend, even additional server housing and all stuff related.

    So the Yahooligans could take some nice severance package plus get a higher salary PLUS attractive options at Google (or Facebook or Microsoft or …) later. They feel the upside that they can always say “I wanted to do the fight at Yahoo, but THE forced me to switch to Google [Microsoft, Facebook]…” - so they get the best (money and good kharma) from both sides.

    I don’t buy your analysis of AOL’s search market share going down due to Google implementation. All competitors loose market share against Google, you just can’t beat them in their field.

    Vertical search providers or social search services like Mahalo play very well, but broadline search engines can’t really compete with Google.

    I think it would be a nice move from first outsourcing search + search ads and THEN sell to Microsoft the rest of the party (Display Ads, SMB + SOHO partnerships, media distribution etc.): from Yahoo to YaHolding ;-)

  19. kuldeep

    Its weird but, …what if and why apple shouldn’t deal for Yahoo! ….I think it would be real beneficial for them…..

    Otherwise Yahoo! should go ahead as it is, staying independent , it much better than any available options.

  20. justinkadima

    Is seems to me that Techcrunch is on the Microsoft PR payroll…

  21. Patrick

    If a deal has to be completed, please let it be the Microsoft deal. If Yahoo gives away the store and turns off its advertising platform in lieu of Google’s, it’s going to be a much bigger than just a matter of Yahoo’s revenues. Google will practically own the entire advertising space on the Internet by default. The idea that one company will be the de facto vendor for the biggest revenue segment of the most leading edge market is insane. If anyone needs an analogy, it’s equivalent to Sprint, Verizon, and T-Mobile disappearing tomorrow leaving AT&T as the sole carrier in the US cellular market.

  22. Joe

    It would be stupid for Yahoo to deal with Google. You go in bed with google today and they’ll eat you alive tomorrow when you have no leverage.

    Microsoft is not the evil empire like some of you think it is. Just be honest. Today’s Microsoft is no longer the Microsoft of the 90’s.

    The company also respects its employees. The Yahoos will be able to leverage Microsoft tremendous resources.

  23. Darren Stuart

    I don’t think the google deal can be done for serveral reasons.

    1. would give a far to greater slice of the advertising and search pie.
    2. the job loses would be mega and would hurt the company
    3. the share price would not be above whats being offered by MS and shareholders would revote and sue the board.

  24. Patrick

    @Darren Stuart,
    The Google deal isn’t an equity deal, it’s just Yahoo outsourcing their search and advertising to Google’s platform.

  25. MadMax3000

    Let’s just hope they think right and come up with the right decision that will benefit the company in the short and long term

    http://www.givemebeats.com/

  26. Avichal

    I worked on both the core search quality team and the core advertising teams at Google. The “experts” you’re talking to must be misquoted or just plain wrong. A good search engine does NOT rely on an advertising engine. Search and Ads are a one directional flow of information. Ads can use information from search, but search cannot use advertising information without violating the integrity and objectivity of the search results. Google religiously maintains this barrier between church and state, and it is a crucial part of their success.

    What this means is that Google could power the ads and Yahoo could keep powering its own search if it wanted to and Google would just monetize the pageviews. Search engineers wouldn’t leave, there wouldn’t be 1500 jobs cut, and Yahoo would continue to make a lot of money. Yahoo could then compete on the quality of search and if they can do a better job than Google they will drive more searches and pageviews and make more money. At the end of the day the whole businessmodel is built around search relevance — if your search engine is the best you will get the most users and make the most money.

    So the options are more like:
    a) sell to Microsoft in some form

    b) outsource search+ads to Google and focus on everything else that is content driven

    c) outsource only ads to Google and refocus on search to see if you can compete and get market share. This opens the possibility to fix Panama on the side and launch it again after the deal with Google expires…so the Google deal basically becomes a short term revenue bump in the hopes that you can execute well on search and have a second shot at life.

  27. Errington

    Avichal is right… There are a lot more options than you think, Google deal or not. It’s also worth noting that Yahoo’s search marketshare was up in December and a little more in January. Just saying… Anyhow, keep up the fair and balanced reporting!

  28. Vee

    Avichal nailed it.

    Disclosure - I work @ Y!

  29. Don Jones

    Outsource core competencies to a competitor as a way of bettering a 50% market price premium…sure, that will avoid hundreds of breach of fiduciary lawsuits…

  30. Kelli

    Good, I hope the Microsoft / Yahoo deal does go through. Then we can mark Feb 8, 2008 as the day that Google won. This will be the day that we move to an all Google internet for search, advertising, documents, everything.

    In 2 years Yahoo will be dead and Ballmer will be thrown out of Microsoft. They will be hemorrhaging money as they try to buy their way out of an AOL-like nightmare. They will have seriously pissed off employees who will be working long hours to make this merger work and they would gladly post their experiences on blogs driving up investor worries about employee morale.

    MS and Yahoo are direct competitors on the internet, they don’t like each other and Yahoo certainly won’t be happy that the stockholders forced them into giving up their independence to Microsoft of all companies. How many people are on their way to Google or Facebook? How many more at Stanford and other colleges are already dropping Microsoft from their wish list of employers knowing full well they won’t get hired there?

    God knows you will never read about why this deal will fail on TechCrunch but here are a couple of things you need to read:

    http://money.cnn.com/news/news.....870998.htm
    http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/.....ideas.html (by far and away the best one I’ve read on the subject but I’m sure Michael hasn’t)

    If you listen real close, you can hear them printing off their resumes.

  31. john matthews

    to post #20. Microsoft is not the evil empire like some of you think it is. Just be honest. Today’s Microsoft is no longer the Microsoft of the 90’s.

    Here’s a quote out of the WSJ Marketplace section from this week on how Kevin Johnson, Microsoft’s President, Platforms and Services Division views the online ad business “Last spring, working from his home office with its view of the bay near Seattle, Mr. Johnson started laying out a new online strategy around the simple concept that the online ad business was becoming a lot like the PC-software business. Once a company had a critical mass of buyers and sellers on its online system, it could hold sway over much of the industry. In computers Microsoft achieved that position with its Windows operating system.”

    I think that about says it all with regards to Microsoft’s thinking yesterday, today and tomorrow. Corporate America at it’s finest.

  32. john matthews

    …And I should say, the context of the above quote was regarding the Microsoft takeover of Yahoo!

  33. Dave Chase

    The logical/rational thing is for Yahoo to take this deal. If I were advising Yahoo’s board, I’d be negotiating hardest on what I believe is the most important point for long-term employee retention which in turn feeds long-term business success. Microsoft already has a successful template for how Yahoo could operate — Xbox. [I was a 12-year MSFTie including time at MSN at the end and had many friends in Xbox]

    Xbox operates as virtually an independent business with its own technology, branding and culture led by Robbie Bach (a great guy). This has served it well. Yahoo employees would find many kindred spirits in Xbox and in many other parts of Microsoft for that matter. When MSN’s ad business was off the radar of sr execs at MSFT (this was when MSN was trying to be an ISP AOL-killer), MSN became a $1B ad business and profitable. When the AOL-killer approach was DOA and they looked over and saw the thriving ad business, they changed horses much to MSN’s ad business demise. It then became shackled with the branding, technology and culture of the legacy Office/Windows business. The results speak for themselves.

    Until the DOJ thwarted the Intuit acquisition, it was likely that MSFT would have let Intuit stay in Silicon Valley largely separate from Redmond and that was only a $1-2B acquisition if my memory serves me. They were fully prepared to kill MS Money. If I was at MSN, I would worry more about my job than if I was at Yahoo in the event of an acquisition.

    If the Yahoo board has their wits about them, they should push for the Intuit/Xbox model.

  34. tundraeric

    #24 NAILED IT and represents the best rationale for outsourcing to remain independent. Google has always maintained open competition and partnering with Google doesn’t mean the end for Yahoo search….it merely keeps the monstor out of the room while Yahoo can refocus the company. Look, a the internet is still in it’s infancy and a brand like YHOO is worth a FORTUNE if run properly. The long term prospects for Yahoo are far greater then short term stock price offered by MSFT. MSFT knows this and that is why they are using the short term panic about YHOO stock price to POUNCE. Cooler heads MUST prevail here. Why do you think MSFT is borrowing money for the first time in it’s history to take a advantage of weakness????

    MSFT doesn’t know how to monitize YHOO any better then YHOO does….msn is a mess as well. I can’t believe MSFT shareholders like this deal.

    Viva la independence!

  35. augustus

    Good analysis, Mike. I agree with your take on the long term google-Yahoo scenario.

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  37. Seth

    I’m actually glad. Its going to be a mess, but I think it will make Google look over their shoulder more. The Internets need that.

  38. Tom

    I suspect this thread is a good proxy for what is actually going to happen in Yahoo’s board room today.

    First someone’s going to state the obvious (which is that the Microsoft deal is the only really viable option). Then a whole bunch of emotional people are going to throw out whatever crazy idea they can think of of, no matter how infeasible, to try to save themselves.

    The problem is, as this thread has shown, the crazy ideas come off as just that…crazy and unworkable. Desperation rarely sells a rational audience on your argument. Which means we SHOULD see Yahoo accepting the offer today.

    That said, it isn’t as if Yahoo has made good decisions up to this point so I wouldn’t be surprised by anything today.

  39. Curt Monash

    My prediction, as a PhD game theorist: The deal should and will happen.

    All comical (but truthful) credential-flashing aside, the Microsoft/Yahoo synergies have amazing potential, as per http://www.texttechnologies.co.....synergies/ . Even after a lot of merger friction, the result could be an innovative powerhouse. And neither Microsoft nor Yahoo is quite making it as an internet leader absent this deal.

    CAM

  40. dave

    Mike, did you know this post got you a plug on CNBC this morning? “TechCrunch reports…”

  41. Marzipan from Toledo

    If this deal doesn’t happen the board needs to be replaced

  42. Mike

    My biggest fear in this whole deal is that Microsoft will toss out the innovation of the Yahoo web services team and completely derail all the work to establish open standards for web development. Yahoo has been a big proponent of establishing the semantic web, in Open ID, and other really big important things, plus they are perhaps the biggest corporate supporter of PHP. It would be a huge negative if Microsoft forces them to rearchitect everything they’ve done to fit into the Windows Live and .NET mold.

  43. rubu

    Then a whole bunch of emotional people are going to throw out whatever crazy idea they can think of of, no matter how infeasible, to try to save themselves.

  44. Tony T

    This deal makes a lot of sense for both parties involved. Yahoo is still a leading online brand. I can’t see the board rejecting this offer seeing how things have gone lately.

  45. grellen

    @ Jeff Billian: Are you authorized to offer jobs at Google? If so, give me a call.

  46. Weak-Innovation

    Makes space for a 3rd player again. Optimism folks!

  47. exYahooEmployeeStar69

    The “execs” who don’t want Microsoft are headed by Sue Decker, who is the real Svengali behind the decline of Y!. She cleverly maneuvered from Harvard MBA CFO hack media darling during the golden years of Terry to somehow running Y! into the ground. I was there during 2004-2006 and she consistently vetoed investment in Search to compete with Google - remember in 2004 Y! was double the size of G in revenue & everything else - and since taking over as President by pushing out DanR, she has not offered any strategy/plan to get Y! out of this mess. Why else is Jerry Yang the CEO, but to be a puppet for Sue?

    So now with the real boys coming in, it is Sue and other ineffective Mgmt team who have the largest to lose, even though they are neglecting their fudiciary duty to act in the best interests of the shareholders (come’on Sue, remember your MBA classes?) I’m sure it will take 3 minutes before Ballmer realizes that the entire mgmt of Y! needs to be cleaned out to make the Y! + M integration actually produce something to compete with G.

    By the way - I interviewed with G after Y, and that place is also becoming stagnant, with too many employees and not enough productive things to do (what else do they do well besides Search?) - so I advise any decent Y!’s left to goto either Facebook or LinkedIn.

  48. Alan Wilensky

    It took all this time for a real expert, Avichal Garg, to weigh in to this conundrum. His analysis and concrete tripartite option menu for Yahoo is stunning and incisive in its brevity.

    Thank you, Mr. Garg.

  49. Joe

    john matthews #28 - the quote you pulled from Businessweek

    “Once a company had a critical mass of buyers and sellers on its online system, it could hold sway over much of the industry. ”

    That’s from the reporter. That’s did not come from the Microsoft VP. Don’t put words in the VP’s mouth.

  50. Tom

    @Alan - I don’t disagree with the technical accuracy of Mr. Garg’s comment above but I don’t think its realistic for a couple reasons.

    1. I suspect taking over search was a stipulation put on by Google. What Mr. Garg suggested above was essentially signing Yahoo up to Adsense at a bargain basement price and I don’t think Google has any interest in that BECAUSE it would allow Yahoo to recover. Google is only interested in Yahoo if it means killing them off as a search competitor.

    2. To assume Yahoo could give away their ad business and then charge back in and start it up again in a year doesn’t hold much weight. Once you’ve run from an industry with your tail between your legs people don’t tend to trust you for a long time after that. If Yahoo were to give its add business away and then try to restart in a year it would take them at least 5 after that just to get back to where they are now.

  51. Dave Hune

    I would love seeing Y! partnering with a Linux dist, getting social networking, IM, great email service (don’t tell me you could find any better online) etc. Y! Apps on a Linux could be a boost for both, as ordinary user grow tired of new Windows versions bothering them with constant popups asking them “Do you really want to start this program?”, and then an extra “Are you certain you started this program? We know you double-clicked the icon, but was it intentional?”

  52. Dave Hune

    I never finished my comment, sorry.

    There’s a lot of people saying that search is simple G territory (or similar), and that Y! is way behind in search algorithms. In the few serious articles I’ve read to compare search engines, Y! came up with better results in a majority of the cases, especially made clear in lesser known and non-advertised areas, but also with quite a few common search keywords. I believe over the past two years Y! search has improved more than G search, but G has a great advantage in marketing and many other areas where Y! would need to improve. To be honest, I find Y! mail having a better online GUI, but since GMail is easily integrated with other services I use it at least as much, and of course the spam prevention at G is great.

    Just my 2 cents, now have fun bashing eachother and me.

  53. Billy

    Yahoo is going to take the bid and deal with the devil. For the most part, I stopped using Yahoo years ago. For those of you still utilizing Yahoo’s services, I suggest you start looking for a new solution. Microsoft is going to ruin it. Hopefully, they’ll be smart and leave it be.

  54. achates

    I agree with #30 - Yahoo’s best hope would be a deal that took the Microsoft offer, but got a commitment from Microsoft as to what the future would be. This might mean restructuring the offer so that is wasn’t “we’ll buy you”, but “we’ll invest in you and throw you a bunch of business”.

    Sucking “the best of Yahoo” and the brand into Microsoft would be a disaster - most of the talent and much of the audience would leave, revenue would tank, and the value of the investment would be lost.

    Going the other way - keeping Yahoo a separate company, not obsessing about moving to Windows technology, and recognizing that for all its failures to capitalize on its potential, Yahoo still knows a lot more about internet business than Microsoft does - could lead to a strong competitor for Google and better revenue growth than the companies have today individually.

    I suspect Microsoft’s model is somewhere in between (assuming this really isn’t the “lock up their options for a year until the DoJ says it was no-go to begin with). The interesting question is whether Yahoo can reopen some of the options that they explored with Microsoft last year, or whether Microsoft is committed to assimilation…

  55. David Petherick

    The board should have decided on what to do by Thursday. That’s the problem with Yahoo - they have all these smart people and great products and ethos, and engineering, but they just can’t get their shit together, and the Board seem utterly ineffective and largely invisible just when they should be giving the opposite impression.

    The Yahoo Board won’t decide today - this is a teleconference board meeting. They will most likely make an announcement today to say they might make an announcement Wednesday. But FFS- what do you do if someone offers 45 billion bucks for you? Oh yeah - you do nothing for a week, and say nothing, and kind of just maybe arrange a conference call. Geniuses at work.

    Sadly, I think that this deal will happen, and both Yahoo and MS will be the worse for it - but I couldn’t give a toss if MS dies tomorrow. Yahoo, though, could be great on their own if they had some effective and fast-moving leadership, and had hired some smart, forward thinking, fair, but tough people about five years ago. They missed the boat, and most of those people got hired by the Goog.

    Now Yahoo have few options left, and their shareholders may just have to shrug, take the money, and move on.

    On the upside, I expect there will be some kick-ass startups being created in the next few months as the best of Yahoo decide that they are better off reaching for the stars than sticking around in the gutter. Mu money will be on http://www.yahoo-startup-of-1st-february-2008.com - or is it .net?

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  57. Soren G

    Also, AP via Yahoo News is using TC as a “source” for this. What is the world coming to? :-)

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....soft_yahoo

  58. Fabian Schonholz

    Thank you Michael. This is a pretty good analysis. I still think that longer term Yahoo!, if remained independent, should go back to its glory days. But from a strict short term financial outlook, you numbers do not lie.

  59. c. botkin

    nope. your sources are bad. check out kara swisher’s piece - as well as the wsj piece up today. the decision will come down wednesday. the meeting today was a phoner; next week’s will be in person

  60. matt

    Ugh, sure they’ll decide today, but when will the rest of us find out? :(

  61. Dennis Howlett

    Was there any doubt this won’t happen? And just why should developers leave?

  62. Steve

    Bottom line is the share holders will decide on the route that they see best for their investment. Which most seem to see as taking the ms deal. Would this also not be the best action for the employees at yahoo? After all ms is always looking for the best employess.

  63. Rob

    When are some of you going to grow up and jump off this anti-Microsoft bandwagon? It’s only apparent that some of you are making emotional statements that have little to no logical business concern behind it. You see Microsoft and side against them no matter how irrational and damaging it may actually be for all. Do you realize how many other companies/people rely directly or indirectly on Microsoft to stay in business? Think about all the software, hardware, IT, and service companies that exist because of Microsoft. Like it or not the economy would take a major dive if Microsoft just up and closed.

    We all know it’s human nature to side with the little guy and be negative and pessimistic about large corporations like Microsoft but try being objective for a change.

    Microsoft would not buy out Yahoo to just turn around and kill them off. That would be completly stupid and unecessary since Yahoo is on it’s way to going under on it’s own.

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