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		<title>By: JAVAD ESHAGHI</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-3043208</link>
		<dc:creator>JAVAD ESHAGHI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. I am javad eshaghi. I am from iran. I live in mashhad. please you find for me very fastly free full text(student study guide and solutions manual)e-book to ternay&#039;s contemporary organic chemistry that has written by Robert,f.francis in some of the best links on the internet. then you send for me very fastly all of this links on the internet that in each of this links on the internet has put 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I am javad eshaghi. I am from iran. I live in mashhad. please you find for me very fastly free full text(student study guide and solutions manual)e-book to ternay&#8217;s contemporary organic chemistry that has written by Robert,f.francis in some of the best links on the internet. then you send for me very fastly all of this links on the internet that in each of this links on the internet has put<br />
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		<title>By: Basecamp/Zoho Look Over Your Shoulder &#124; Designurimagination Blog - Let Your Imagination Fly</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-2716918</link>
		<dc:creator>Basecamp/Zoho Look Over Your Shoulder &#124; Designurimagination Blog - Let Your Imagination Fly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-2015067</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has been successfully be creating products that are simple to use and reliable.  They create products that users eventually feel they can&#039;t live without.  What they have done with Google apps is something that has not been done before.  My medium sized consulting company uses Sharepoint for documentation repository, Mailstreet as the Exchange provider, NetSuite for time and sales reporting.  With Google apps, it can all be done in one place.  Google allows the creation of API&#039;s that make it scalable.  

Tom,  If you as an IT manager are concerned about employees using Google Apps to store corporate information, then your IT company should block the use of the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has been successfully be creating products that are simple to use and reliable.  They create products that users eventually feel they can&#8217;t live without.  What they have done with Google apps is something that has not been done before.  My medium sized consulting company uses Sharepoint for documentation repository, Mailstreet as the Exchange provider, NetSuite for time and sales reporting.  With Google apps, it can all be done in one place.  Google allows the creation of API&#8217;s that make it scalable.  </p>
<p>Tom,  If you as an IT manager are concerned about employees using Google Apps to store corporate information, then your IT company should block the use of the site.</p>
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		<title>By: teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1999281</link>
		<dc:creator>teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what´s the benefit against the standard edition?
I didn´t test Team Edition, but as far as I see:
standard: Create account and send invitation
team edition: Set password, linked to an account and send invitation.

But
- no corporate domainname
- no domainforwarding
- No possibility to collaborate with people from other domains (within the same company)

So who would use it? Companies whose members can´t remember their E-Mail domainsuffix? Companies without a corporate Website? 
I think, Google is great keeping tools as simple as possible but still being useful. This time it doesn´t work. Maybe it´s just marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what´s the benefit against the standard edition?<br />
I didn´t test Team Edition, but as far as I see:<br />
standard: Create account and send invitation<br />
team edition: Set password, linked to an account and send invitation.</p>
<p>But<br />
- no corporate domainname<br />
- no domainforwarding<br />
- No possibility to collaborate with people from other domains (within the same company)</p>
<p>So who would use it? Companies whose members can´t remember their E-Mail domainsuffix? Companies without a corporate Website?<br />
I think, Google is great keeping tools as simple as possible but still being useful. This time it doesn´t work. Maybe it´s just marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: webmoney</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1984718</link>
		<dc:creator>webmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a strange habit to register in all Google services... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a strange habit to register in all Google services&#8230; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1981118</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested to see if they evolve the suite to be a distro that could be run as a server app.  That way you&#039;re not relying on them to manage your data as you could store it locally or wherever your storage may be, while still saving the 4gb (guesstimating) of hard drive space on each client for the latest release of Office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested to see if they evolve the suite to be a distro that could be run as a server app.  That way you&#8217;re not relying on them to manage your data as you could store it locally or wherever your storage may be, while still saving the 4gb (guesstimating) of hard drive space on each client for the latest release of Office.</p>
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		<title>By: ELG</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1980983</link>
		<dc:creator>ELG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Corporate Search isn’t as hard as Internet Search so Google’s superior technology doesn’t mean much&quot;

Corporate Search is exponentially harder than internet search.  Corporate (Enterprise) search involves unstructured documents like excel spreadsheets, word documents,  data in databases,  email etc,  and are not linked together neatly like on the web.  (making pagerank useless)
So not only is it a much harder challenge to index this data,  but to give it relevance and meaning takes very advanced technology.
Companies like Autonomy are leading the way in enterprise search,  and Google is only a new entry to the field and is way behind the curve,  and only relying on marketing and branding,  not technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Corporate Search isn’t as hard as Internet Search so Google’s superior technology doesn’t mean much&#8221;</p>
<p>Corporate Search is exponentially harder than internet search.  Corporate (Enterprise) search involves unstructured documents like excel spreadsheets, word documents,  data in databases,  email etc,  and are not linked together neatly like on the web.  (making pagerank useless)<br />
So not only is it a much harder challenge to index this data,  but to give it relevance and meaning takes very advanced technology.<br />
Companies like Autonomy are leading the way in enterprise search,  and Google is only a new entry to the field and is way behind the curve,  and only relying on marketing and branding,  not technology.</p>
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		<title>By: GH</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1980946</link>
		<dc:creator>GH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google apps (docs anyway) is still immature almost to the point of being a hyped-up novelty.  Yes, it&#039;s convenient... but what if your users need a pivot table in a spreadsheet?  Supposing someone needs to get information OUT of GDocs and needs the format of the output content to marginally resemble what they put in? Sorry, it just doesn&#039;t happen.  I can see GDocs creating a wall between power users (using Excel or Calc) and basic users (GDocs) in an organization through which information does not easily flow.  Information barriers between collaborators are never a good thing.  
     It&#039;s easy for small companies to adopt new systems, because size often affects agility.  It will be interesting to see how well those early adopters fare when they realize that they need far more functionality than GDocs can provide... because down the road a migration to a more powerful platform will be far more expensive and painful.  
     It&#039;s not the SOX factor that keeps IT managers from adopting Google Apps, it&#039;s the SUX factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google apps (docs anyway) is still immature almost to the point of being a hyped-up novelty.  Yes, it&#8217;s convenient&#8230; but what if your users need a pivot table in a spreadsheet?  Supposing someone needs to get information OUT of GDocs and needs the format of the output content to marginally resemble what they put in? Sorry, it just doesn&#8217;t happen.  I can see GDocs creating a wall between power users (using Excel or Calc) and basic users (GDocs) in an organization through which information does not easily flow.  Information barriers between collaborators are never a good thing.<br />
     It&#8217;s easy for small companies to adopt new systems, because size often affects agility.  It will be interesting to see how well those early adopters fare when they realize that they need far more functionality than GDocs can provide&#8230; because down the road a migration to a more powerful platform will be far more expensive and painful.<br />
     It&#8217;s not the SOX factor that keeps IT managers from adopting Google Apps, it&#8217;s the SUX factor.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisB</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1980935</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom where you are wrong is your last comment about search. Search sucks at just about every company I&#039;ve seen. no one has meta tags on their documents, few have meta databases, no one knows where anything is. Knowledge sharing doesn&#039;t happen at all. Most estimates of developer time spent researching put it at anywhere between 50% and 70%! That&#039;s me, a senior developer, getting paid over half my time to google for solutions to problems. That&#039;s our job.

Look how many times we reinvent the wheel in our jobs.

Having better searches, relevant search results, to our fingers faster is a huge win for whoever can do it right. I&#039;m putting a SharePoint solution in place at my current company, and the biggest thing is search: all this great information the business creates, and in IT all these little IT projects and solutions to business problems are out there, but no one knows where.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom where you are wrong is your last comment about search. Search sucks at just about every company I&#8217;ve seen. no one has meta tags on their documents, few have meta databases, no one knows where anything is. Knowledge sharing doesn&#8217;t happen at all. Most estimates of developer time spent researching put it at anywhere between 50% and 70%! That&#8217;s me, a senior developer, getting paid over half my time to google for solutions to problems. That&#8217;s our job.</p>
<p>Look how many times we reinvent the wheel in our jobs.</p>
<p>Having better searches, relevant search results, to our fingers faster is a huge win for whoever can do it right. I&#8217;m putting a SharePoint solution in place at my current company, and the biggest thing is search: all this great information the business creates, and in IT all these little IT projects and solutions to business problems are out there, but no one knows where.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1980792</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha!!! Sharepoint!!! Go Google! I am sick and tired of the closed-ness of sharepoint!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha!!! Sharepoint!!! Go Google! I am sick and tired of the closed-ness of sharepoint!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1980662</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Tom is right and its not just the IT managers who will be pissed off - it goes higher.  This is an example of some IT guys (in Google) not doing enough product requirements testing unless this really is aimed at Mom and Pop companies.  While small businesses may be the backbone of America, the large corporate is America&#039;s (and Google&#039;s) revenue.  These corporations are all public companies (as are many of the smaller ones) and in a post-Enron environment are all subject to SOX legislation which makes it imperative that companies know how information is used and represented externally.  That&#039;s why email is retained.  Spreadsheets and word processing documents constitute a type of information that has to be fall within the compliance processes.  Anything that is an end run around this control risks putting the CEO and CFO behind bars.  So one reason the IT managers will be pissed off is that their bosses and their bosses bosses (who really control the purse strings) will be pissed off.  Would you be enthusiastic about your colleagues using a product that could lead to you doing time.  No, probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tom is right and its not just the IT managers who will be pissed off &#8211; it goes higher.  This is an example of some IT guys (in Google) not doing enough product requirements testing unless this really is aimed at Mom and Pop companies.  While small businesses may be the backbone of America, the large corporate is America&#8217;s (and Google&#8217;s) revenue.  These corporations are all public companies (as are many of the smaller ones) and in a post-Enron environment are all subject to SOX legislation which makes it imperative that companies know how information is used and represented externally.  That&#8217;s why email is retained.  Spreadsheets and word processing documents constitute a type of information that has to be fall within the compliance processes.  Anything that is an end run around this control risks putting the CEO and CFO behind bars.  So one reason the IT managers will be pissed off is that their bosses and their bosses bosses (who really control the purse strings) will be pissed off.  Would you be enthusiastic about your colleagues using a product that could lead to you doing time.  No, probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: Frenkie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1980534</link>
		<dc:creator>Frenkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey this is really coool.

Bravoooo Google.

You finally gave us the applications that we are using since Windows 95.

I cant wait to see what is next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey this is really coool.</p>
<p>Bravoooo Google.</p>
<p>You finally gave us the applications that we are using since Windows 95.</p>
<p>I cant wait to see what is next.</p>
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		<title>By: Velioncho</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1980429</link>
		<dc:creator>Velioncho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is a hyped-up company. Only good product they have is &quot;search&quot; and its ad sense. Google maps and earth are wow products when they arrived but now comptetion is pretty close. Everything else are high school projects done by a good student. Gmail is good but is it wow, no? is Google Docs a wow ? it is a &quot;wow&quot; in negative sense. Is Google talk a wow? no. 

There is no google magic now. I really really hope yhoo and MSFT merger goes thru, and that will tell where exactly google stands. 

Currently the are given too much importance by media,analysts and investors. Google is able to hide all of its incompetence just because there is huge gap between them and the 2nd. There are so many failure products from Google. Their stock is worth at these levels only if it still shows &quot;wow&quot; magic which was lost longtime ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is a hyped-up company. Only good product they have is &#8220;search&#8221; and its ad sense. Google maps and earth are wow products when they arrived but now comptetion is pretty close. Everything else are high school projects done by a good student. Gmail is good but is it wow, no? is Google Docs a wow ? it is a &#8220;wow&#8221; in negative sense. Is Google talk a wow? no. </p>
<p>There is no google magic now. I really really hope yhoo and MSFT merger goes thru, and that will tell where exactly google stands. </p>
<p>Currently the are given too much importance by media,analysts and investors. Google is able to hide all of its incompetence just because there is huge gap between them and the 2nd. There are so many failure products from Google. Their stock is worth at these levels only if it still shows &#8220;wow&#8221; magic which was lost longtime ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo Maglinao</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979934</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlo Maglinao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google apps marketing should also use Gmail for growth. http://tinyurl.com/2tclkn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google apps marketing should also use Gmail for growth. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2tclkn" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/2tclkn'>http://tinyurl.com/2tclkn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rajan Tawate</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979877</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajan Tawate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whover wants to make their corporate documents searchable over the internet to the whole world.

Vow..  corporate privacy is so out of fashion now.

Rajan Tawate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whover wants to make their corporate documents searchable over the internet to the whole world.</p>
<p>Vow..  corporate privacy is so out of fashion now.</p>
<p>Rajan Tawate</p>
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		<title>By: Google Apps Team Edition</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979787</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Apps Team Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] корпоративни клиенти), новата Google Apps Team Edition. Версията Google Apps Team Edition е предназначена за групова работа с документи, обмен [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rubu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979722</link>
		<dc:creator>rubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know work in a corporation of 2, with worldwide co-workers. Whereas NING and similar provide something that is useful - having real groupware that really lerts us do real tasks together is invaluable. We do not want to pay corporate prices for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know work in a corporation of 2, with worldwide co-workers. Whereas NING and similar provide something that is useful &#8211; having real groupware that really lerts us do real tasks together is invaluable. We do not want to pay corporate prices for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979711</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dempsey - Actually, I don&#039;t consider Firefox that big a deal, I&#039;ve always been surprised by IT managers who were vehemently opposed to it.  But there&#039;s a huge difference between an alternate web browser and actually putting corporate documents on another companies server (especially when that company isn&#039;t willing to guarantee security of any kind)

@William - The issue isn&#039;t the user pissing off their IT department its Google causing the user to piss of their IT department.  Put it this way, Google can make money in two ways.  By getting corporate users to use Google Apps as is and make money off revenue or by selling these apps to corporations.  But if Google pisses IT departments off they&#039;ll find that (a) IT departments can block Google apps (bye bye revenue source one) and (b) that IT departments won&#039;t be interested in Google anymore (bye bye revenue source two)

@Will - That very well may be true...now.  But Startups go one of two ways: They either fail, or the get bigger and are forced to develop big, lethargic IT departments of their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dempsey &#8211; Actually, I don&#8217;t consider Firefox that big a deal, I&#8217;ve always been surprised by IT managers who were vehemently opposed to it.  But there&#8217;s a huge difference between an alternate web browser and actually putting corporate documents on another companies server (especially when that company isn&#8217;t willing to guarantee security of any kind)</p>
<p>@William &#8211; The issue isn&#8217;t the user pissing off their IT department its Google causing the user to piss of their IT department.  Put it this way, Google can make money in two ways.  By getting corporate users to use Google Apps as is and make money off revenue or by selling these apps to corporations.  But if Google pisses IT departments off they&#8217;ll find that (a) IT departments can block Google apps (bye bye revenue source one) and (b) that IT departments won&#8217;t be interested in Google anymore (bye bye revenue source two)</p>
<p>@Will &#8211; That very well may be true&#8230;now.  But Startups go one of two ways: They either fail, or the get bigger and are forced to develop big, lethargic IT departments of their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Merydith</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979687</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Merydith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second this response to Tom (the first poster):

&quot;Small, entrepreneurial businesses remain the diversified backbone of American business. These businesses don’t have big lame corporate IT departments that rule over them. Worldwide, this is even more true.&quot;

My startup uses Google Apps and it works very well for us.  I don&#039;t miss the lethargic, outsourced IT department that I had to pull teeth with at my last &quot;corporate&quot; job.

Tom you&#039;re simply out of touch or worried about your job in the aging dinosaur that is MSFT centric IT ;)</description>
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<p>&#8220;Small, entrepreneurial businesses remain the diversified backbone of American business. These businesses don’t have big lame corporate IT departments that rule over them. Worldwide, this is even more true.&#8221;</p>
<p>My startup uses Google Apps and it works very well for us.  I don&#8217;t miss the lethargic, outsourced IT department that I had to pull teeth with at my last &#8220;corporate&#8221; job.</p>
<p>Tom you&#8217;re simply out of touch or worried about your job in the aging dinosaur that is MSFT centric IT <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RAD</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979664</link>
		<dc:creator>RAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that the time of your post is 4:23 AM, I assume that you are still used to the 3-4 AM time slot...

IT at universities is a somewhat different beast.  Service to admin and teaching sides are usually mutually exclusive in the sense that &quot;corporate&quot; admin needs are often far different from teaching with technology needs.  This plays out (or will, more and more) as decisions about what productivity apps should students be fluent in - Microsoft of google - will soon be commonplace in academia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the time of your post is 4:23 AM, I assume that you are still used to the 3-4 AM time slot&#8230;</p>
<p>IT at universities is a somewhat different beast.  Service to admin and teaching sides are usually mutually exclusive in the sense that &#8220;corporate&#8221; admin needs are often far different from teaching with technology needs.  This plays out (or will, more and more) as decisions about what productivity apps should students be fluent in &#8211; Microsoft of google &#8211; will soon be commonplace in academia.</p>
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		<title>By: William L. Weaver</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979549</link>
		<dc:creator>William L. Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Quiz Question: Anybody old enough to recall filling out request forms for mainframe compute time?  ... and finding that 3 - 4 am two weeks from now was often the only time available?&quot;

&quot;Quiz Question: Anybody old enough to recall pissing off IT by purchasing a microcomputer and crunching your own FORTRAN code without IT writing it?&quot;

History doesn&#039;t repeat, but it often rhymes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Quiz Question: Anybody old enough to recall filling out request forms for mainframe compute time?  &#8230; and finding that 3 &#8211; 4 am two weeks from now was often the only time available?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Quiz Question: Anybody old enough to recall pissing off IT by purchasing a microcomputer and crunching your own FORTRAN code without IT writing it?&#8221;</p>
<p>History doesn&#8217;t repeat, but it often rhymes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dempsey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979434</link>
		<dc:creator>Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Quiz Question: What’s the easiest way to piss off your IT Department at work?

Quiz Answer: Use unauthorized software and encourage your fellow co-workers to do the same&quot;


Sorry to post off topic, but I burst into laughter at this.  Tom, do you realize that the main reason why IE is still the main browser used on the Internet is because Firefox is &quot;unauthorized software.&quot;  From my experience with IT Departments: if they say not to do it, then it must be a good idea.

Sorry if that offends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Quiz Question: What’s the easiest way to piss off your IT Department at work?</p>
<p>Quiz Answer: Use unauthorized software and encourage your fellow co-workers to do the same&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry to post off topic, but I burst into laughter at this.  Tom, do you realize that the main reason why IE is still the main browser used on the Internet is because Firefox is &#8220;unauthorized software.&#8221;  From my experience with IT Departments: if they say not to do it, then it must be a good idea.</p>
<p>Sorry if that offends.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979423</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first glance it appears that Google&#039;s target audience with this launch is their own product teams.</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Owen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979420</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a number of distributed international teams. I used to run my own FirstClass server to serve those teams. Yes, I upset the corporate IT people - but then they were also unwilling to provide a service that linked and provided access to external partners - they deserved to be upset for their motto &quot;Information Service- no information, no service&quot;. After all these outsiders (ie clients, co-workers...) may cause Y2K problems - which was their sole obsession.

I know work in a corporation of 2, with worldwide co-workers. Whereas NING and similar provide something that is useful  - having real groupware that really lerts us do real tasks together is invaluable. We do not want to pay corporate prices for this.

My current challenge is creating a demonstration of lowest cost, lowest tech, technology support for distance education in Africa. I will figure a way to subvert the single domain issue. I look forward to Googe revolutionising mobile phones soon too. 

I do not mind Google&#039;s aspiration to make money from advertising or corporations - they are good guys if they let &quot;the rest of us&quot; play with the tools for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a number of distributed international teams. I used to run my own FirstClass server to serve those teams. Yes, I upset the corporate IT people &#8211; but then they were also unwilling to provide a service that linked and provided access to external partners &#8211; they deserved to be upset for their motto &#8220;Information Service- no information, no service&#8221;. After all these outsiders (ie clients, co-workers&#8230;) may cause Y2K problems &#8211; which was their sole obsession.</p>
<p>I know work in a corporation of 2, with worldwide co-workers. Whereas NING and similar provide something that is useful  &#8211; having real groupware that really lerts us do real tasks together is invaluable. We do not want to pay corporate prices for this.</p>
<p>My current challenge is creating a demonstration of lowest cost, lowest tech, technology support for distance education in Africa. I will figure a way to subvert the single domain issue. I look forward to Googe revolutionising mobile phones soon too. </p>
<p>I do not mind Google&#8217;s aspiration to make money from advertising or corporations &#8211; they are good guys if they let &#8220;the rest of us&#8221; play with the tools for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Boilermaker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/google-apps-team-edition-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1979418</link>
		<dc:creator>Boilermaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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