The difference is Google WISHES it could buy Yahoo!

Wow, you sound just a bit like an Apple shill.

vaporware with what?

The SDK is vaporware in my book until it is publicly released.

What are you talking about? The SDK has been available since November:
http://code.google.com/android/download.html

The post you’re quoting mentions about an update to the SDK.

I hope android is done by time. The gap between iPhone and android is still growing.

Is it still vaporware?

“Letting its first deadline slip after so much initial fanfare is not the best way to create momentum around Android, especially as Apple is preparing to release its own software development kit for the iPhone.”

I think that Google delaying Android so they can fix some major developer complaints based on developer feed back is a smart move. They are ensuring that they have a working SDK. All the testing in the world can’t prepare you for actual real world user use. The fact that Google is listening to it’s SDK users and releasing fixes to the SDK only shows that they are serious about Android and that they want a product they can be proud of.

Just my $0.02

Wow, someone is grumpy today. Are you a Pats fan? The SDK is out, its just the update being delayed a short time. Not a big deal.

For those interested the SDK is available here.
http://code.google.com/android.....lling.html

comments 5 and 8 are spot on. maybe techcrunch should be in less of a rush to publish these press release-based stories (this, Qtrax, the rapidshare debaucle, every DataPortability announcement)?

The original text of his post had this:

“Until the SDK is publicly released, though, it is vaporware.”

I can see how he’d think that Android is really late if he were operating under the assumption that few people have access to the SDK. That assumption, however, is wrong. What we don’t have yet is hardware or source code for everything, but I can see why they’re waiting on those - or rather, I look at it that they gave us an early look.

FYI - anyone going to RedTube right now will see that the site has been hacked by ” Turkish Cyber Terrorists”

http://www.redtube.com/

I’m glad they’re delaying and releasing another version of the SDK. I’ve got ideas that aren’t quite implementable with what they’ve given us so far. I can’t enter the contest with a “Well, it’s not working yet, but this is what it WILL do!” and dazzle the judges with an exciting array of fake screenshots. So here’s hoping the next iteration of the SDK is full-featured enough (and that they’ve been paying attention to user requests on their own forums) that I’ll have a reasonably complete framework to build on:D

Relax guys the sdk is DELAYED not the OS… Face it Android is not going to be any good until at least version 2 so buy yourselves a nokia or a blackberry rip off of the iphone (due July) before you jump in bed with googles rip off of the iphone. The nokia and bbery will be open to all, I just hope that the android hasn’t rusted by the time it comes out.

Eric,

this is OLD news. About a week old. If you had an email to contact you, I could have pointed you to a number of blogs (mine included) where the story was first broken last week on Jan 29.

I was just about to comment on this post when I noticed a few educated readers about. The SDK HAS been publicly released. Besides that, Microsoft releases one product after the next with a delay. Give Google a little bit of a break here. This is just a new version of the SDK due out. Aside from that, phones are still expected in the second half of this year. Now, if the calendar rolls into 2009 without an actual Android phone, then this article carries water. “Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.”

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Erick,

From the Andriod’s site, the prize distribution doesn’t quite add up ..

In the Android Developer Challenge I, the 50 most promising entries received by April 14 will each receive a $25,000 award to fund further development. Those selected will then be eligible for even greater recognition via ten $275,000 awards and ten $100,000 awards.

Am I missing something or Google’s formula is missing some serious numbers…

“I am beginning to have a hard time telling the difference between Google and Microsoft.”

That’s an irresponsible and hilariously stupid statement.

“If you are a developer with limited time and resources, which one would you choose to create an app for?”

Are you serious? Develop an app for a piece of google software, or for iphone software? Which has a lengthy history of SDK support, api support, and the major player with internet search and data?

I’ll be removing this blog from my reader do to “irrelevance”, what a joke.

“I am beginning to have a hard time telling the difference between Google and Microsoft.”

“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
George Orwell – Animal Farm

It’s sad that the fabled Yahoo has become a pawn in the war between these two…wait is that Smeagol I see outside gotta go. Smeagol, Smeagol swswswswsws

Are you ridiculous? First of this is old news…. second off the android sdk has been out for a while…. so research a bit before you blab… I have always had respect for your articles because they have been researched and usually give credible information. So they pushed back Android a month? Big whoop? So they want to make sure everything is correct and well done before they release there products… Sorry, but I see a big difference between Microsoft and Google right there.. A HUGE ONE. Google will actually improve there product… Microsoft will keep delaying and still not improve it and still release crap… or a.k.a. windows vista. So stop making stupid comments about google until you know what your talking about. I am also not a google fan boy… I just hate when people talk when they have no clue what there talking about.

Sorry about the venom in the post,

Holden Page

hopefully they will test it in the meantime, not to have the same problems like WM

OK this is not what I expect from TechCruch - a technical mistake that comes from not knowing what you are talking about.

As has been pointed out the SDK is already out and people are using it - I have it installed already and have since November.

The problem here is an update to the SDK.

If you guys can’t even bother to understand a story I think you are really letting the side down - I had more respect for you.

Hint (The real story) : The updated SDK needs to start answering some difficult questions that are being asked if this is ever going to be a really useful platform. Google have put some great and cool technologies in there with little mind for the problems they cause in the real world. Ask where these answers are : How will security work on the platform? Speficically how are they going to manage to balance their ambition for no security prompting after a user instals a piece of software? How will dependency mangement work? Will Google open up their Location API that uses cellId for non GPS phones to non google applications? Will the XMPP users and infrastucture work using non-google infrastructure.

Please guys give yourselves a kick in the arse about this - get in contact if you want any more details on the short coming of Android.

Hey TechCrunch makes mistakes too, just like Google and everyone else in this world.

Same thing is being erroneously reported at CrunchGear. http://www.crunchgear.com/2008.....shed-back/ My comment has been ‘awaiting moderation’ for some time. Wonder how many others are waiting too.

In the meanwhile, I wrote a piece at AndroidGuys trying to educate our readers.

http://androidguys.blogspot.co.....et-it.html

man, techcrunch reporters are really getting poor in writing or analysing: “I am beginning to have a hard time telling the difference between Google and Microsoft.”, then you better really start studying and analysing those companies in terms of SWOT, PESTLE, competitive advantage before you say something like that

As highlighted by a number of posters, the premise for this TechCrunch story is wrong.

Therefore TechCruch should publish a retraction and an apology for publishing a misleading article.

I am really amazed they haven’t retracted it yet - Erik has only put the comment in that reinforces that he knows not what he is talking about.

That Google jet thing really got into you guys… people are already developing for android using the sdk, get your facts straight, an update slips and you call them MS, give me a break.

Erick this is a sloppy article and plain wrong. I guess we all miss the mark some times.

A two week delay on an incremental update to the SDK isn’t news, it’s software development.

The difference between Google and Microsoft is that Google’s operating systems has been delayed 2 weeks and Microsoft’s was delayed 2 years.

except microsoft’s OS is already on the phones, while android still is looking up, begging to be adopted by handset makers like HTC, which obviously wouldn’t make a switch to an untested OS. Blackberry won’t switch to android and so wudn’t Apple, so who is going to adopt the poor (and now unattractive) orphan.

Anyone have a list of shops / developers that are building Android applications. I have seen a couple around on individual blog posts, but has anyone seen or made a large list of developers?

This post is pathetic, not simply because it is completely inaccurate, but more because it is standoffish and childish, without backing up any of the inflated rhetoric. Somebody hates everything Google does, boo hoo.

“If you are a developer with limited time and resources, which one would you choose to create an app for? The iPhone, which is already in millions of people’s hands, or Android, which is still vaporware?”

Which one is actually vaporware, the Android SDK from Google, or the Apple iPhone SDK? (Hint: one was actually released a few months back, the other has never been released but is promised.)

I develop Flash and Java games for mobile platforms and have just completed an evaluation of ANDROID for my team. Basically i ported one of our early titles, a simple side-scrolling platformer in 2D with minimal bitmap and sound assets, to ANDROID. For me, the platform adds virtually nothing over existing Java mobile frameworks, and represents a step backward in terms of the assets I have built up over the years. There is a significant performance hit as well, in the emulator anyway.

Technically, I’d say ANDROID probably works best if you are leveraging other Google assets, such as maps, etc. It’s most certainly a drop for what will be a future gPhone SDK, and as a frequent user of the life-saving Google SMS services, a fully mobile Google apps package would be game-changing.

My bad for reading the Android post too fast this morning. I’ve corrected above to reflect that what is delayed is an update to the SDK.

Thanks for keeping me honest.

Wow, you guys don’t seem to have much reading comprehension. The OS and the hardware aren’t delayed at all, and the SDK has been available for a long time already. Updates are a good thing. Only the challenge is being delayed, and that has nothing to do with OS development. It’s also pretty ridiculous to call Android vaporware. It was only announced a few months ago, and the turn around is set to be very quick for an entire OS.

Realistically nobody’s going to recommend buying any Android phone until next year at the earliest. Anyone expecting handset manufacturers to fully support this and get devices out sooner than that is deluding themselves.

So buy an iPhone, buy a BlackBerry, hell, buy an N95… The Android will be completely unusable for at least another year.

one bad news after another. Google is onto too many things and no matter how innovative they are and how many bright people they bring on there is always a limit

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The difference between Microsoft and Google is that Microsoft would charge you $599 for this and it still wouldn’t work right.

Tech Crunch is not the place to read about real tech stuff. They are just plain old bloggers. Check out the Google Android forums for the real deal. http://openandroids is another good spot to park and read.

Are you kidding me? The difference between Google and Microsoft is fundamental to the two companies. Just read a little bit about open source, and then look at the attitudes of the two companies. Every company wants to make money, but the way Google is doing it is much more ethical.