Comments on: Microsoft-Yahoo: What Will Stay And What Will Go? http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:36:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jeremy Horn http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1990864 Jeremy Horn Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:51:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1990864 It will most definitely be very interesting to see whether or not Microsoft has to sell off its MSN stake. When contrasting MSNBC to Yahoo News, they both have clear positives and negatives -- some good complementary feature sets... Read more here... http://tpgblog.com/2008/02/14/the-news-is-improving/ And, Enjoy! Jeremy Horn The Product Guy http://tpgblog.com It will most definitely be very interesting to see whether or not Microsoft has to sell off its MSN stake. When contrasting MSNBC to Yahoo News, they both have clear positives and negatives — some good complementary feature sets…

Read more here…
http://tpgblog.com/2008/02/14/.....improving/

And, Enjoy!

Jeremy Horn
The Product Guy
http://tpgblog.com

]]> By: blogs @ bcl http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1982898 blogs @ bcl Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:50:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1982898 <strong>Will! Microsoft! get! Yahoo!?...</strong> 10 days ago Microsoft announced their unsolicited offer to purchase Yahoo!, a deal valued at $44.6bn in a mixture of cash and shares. The Yahoo! share price has gone up, Microsoft’s share price has gone down and Google got scared.  Publ... Will! Microsoft! get! Yahoo!?…

10 days ago Microsoft announced their unsolicited offer to purchase Yahoo!, a deal valued at $44.6bn in a mixture of cash and shares.
The Yahoo! share price has gone up, Microsoft’s share price has gone down and Google got scared.  Publ…

]]> By: E-sniper » Blog Archive » Ballmer Confirms Yahoo Brand Will Live On, MSN The Likely Casualty http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1981386 E-sniper » Blog Archive » Ballmer Confirms Yahoo Brand Will Live On, MSN The Likely Casualty Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:17:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1981386 [...] TechCrunch readers pointed out last time, the appeal of Yahoo’s brand is not universal. Yahoo has all but completely failed in much of [...] [...] TechCrunch readers pointed out last time, the appeal of Yahoo’s brand is not universal. Yahoo has all but completely failed in much of [...]

]]> By: E-sniper » Blog Archive » Ballmer Confirms Yahoo Brand Will Live On, MSN The Likely Casualty http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1981382 E-sniper » Blog Archive » Ballmer Confirms Yahoo Brand Will Live On, MSN The Likely Casualty Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:14:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1981382 [...] speculated previously that Microsoft would retain the Yahoo brand, but until now its been a well educated guess. In a [...] [...] speculated previously that Microsoft would retain the Yahoo brand, but until now its been a well educated guess. In a [...]

]]> By: ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA « Daily Marauder http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1981373 ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA « Daily Marauder Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:07:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1981373 [...] speculated previously that Microsoft would retain the Yahoo brand, but until now its been a well educated guess. In a [...] [...] speculated previously that Microsoft would retain the Yahoo brand, but until now its been a well educated guess. In a [...]

]]> By: David A. Milman, CEO RESCUECOM http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1980372 David A. Milman, CEO RESCUECOM Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:35:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1980372 Companies like RESCUECOM that have gone up against Google are happy to see the possibility of more competition in search and online ad placement. Who better to bring it than Microsoft? Google has used its power to trample trademarks by promoting the sales of a company's trademarks to its competitors for ad placement. We hope a Yahoo backed by Microsoft offers operates with a business model that gives customers a fairer alternative. Companies like RESCUECOM that have gone up against Google are happy to see the possibility of more competition in search and online ad placement. Who better to bring it than Microsoft? Google has used its power to trample trademarks by promoting the sales of a company’s trademarks to its competitors for ad placement. We hope a Yahoo backed by Microsoft offers operates with a business model that gives customers a fairer alternative.

]]> By: Jack http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1970800 Jack Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:39:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1970800 And what about Kelkoo, the online comparison system of Yahoo!? It is powerful in Europe and no one has talked about it up to this moment. And what about Kelkoo, the online comparison system of Yahoo!? It is powerful in Europe and no one has talked about it up to this moment.

]]> By: Josh http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1969232 Josh Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:44:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1969232 Jesus Duncan, could you have pulled any more ridiculous crap out of your ass? Most of this is just garbage; please leave the analysis to people who have analytical skills and who understand the industry; i.e. not you, in case it wasn't clear ;-). Jesus Duncan, could you have pulled any more ridiculous crap out of your ass? Most of this is just garbage; please leave the analysis to people who have analytical skills and who understand the industry; i.e. not you, in case it wasn’t clear ;-).

]]> By: Amit http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1966485 Amit Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:57:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1966485 Very "hypothetical" post....but great assumptions and intelligent remarks! bookmarked @ http://livbit.com Very “hypothetical” post….but great assumptions and intelligent remarks!

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]]> By: Erik http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1966474 Erik Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:52:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1966474 And the infraestructure? Yahoo is a big user of PHP and FreeBSD (along with other FLOSS software), and have software licensed with YPL (Yahoo Public License). What would Microsoft do with these questions? Microsoft already have Ms-PL e Ms-RL but isn't mature in open source partnership yet. What do you think Duncan? And the infraestructure? Yahoo is a big user of PHP and FreeBSD (along with other FLOSS software), and have software licensed with YPL (Yahoo Public License). What would Microsoft do with these questions? Microsoft already have Ms-PL e Ms-RL but isn’t mature in open source partnership yet. What do you think Duncan?

]]> By: Brian Perry http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1966462 Brian Perry Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:47:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1966462 How about MS version of AJAX vs. YUI? If MS can keep those developers on the YUI platform from bailing, that would be a key win. Seems like it would be too tempting not to integrate, since it would be confusing to keep both. My guess would be that YUI would be largely kept. How about MS version of AJAX vs. YUI? If MS can keep those developers on the YUI platform from bailing, that would be a key win. Seems like it would be too tempting not to integrate, since it would be confusing to keep both. My guess would be that YUI would be largely kept.

]]> By: Tyson Williams http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1966184 Tyson Williams Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:38:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1966184 Frankly I do not care what will happen with those two together, as long as they leave Flickr alone as it is... otherwise they will be a lot of unhappy people around the world. Frankly I do not care what will happen with those two together, as long as they leave Flickr alone as it is… otherwise they will be a lot of unhappy people around the world.

]]> By: Josh http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1965978 Josh Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:39:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1965978 Apropos the article's logo in the title, check out this one: http://www.taadaam.com/index.php?t=YAHOO%21 cool Apropos the article’s logo in the title, check out this one: http://www.taadaam.com/index.php?t=YAHOO%21

cool

]]> By: Dennis McDonald http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1965812 Dennis McDonald Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:47:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1965812 It's interesting that I've seen very little discussion of Yahoo! Groups and what will happen to that. As antiquated as the interface is -- an updated beta version is under development -- there are literally millions of groups in existence worldwide where group interaction via email is a way of life. A source of recurring traffic in so many niche markets should count for something. It’s interesting that I’ve seen very little discussion of Yahoo! Groups and what will happen to that. As antiquated as the interface is — an updated beta version is under development — there are literally millions of groups in existence worldwide where group interaction via email is a way of life. A source of recurring traffic in so many niche markets should count for something.

]]> By: Mark Thien http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1965309 Mark Thien Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:42:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1965309 microsoft is fucking stupid .... he help google to bring down 1 enemy ! Google is really smart ! microsoft is fucking stupid …. he help google to bring down 1 enemy ! Google is really smart !

]]> By: YDRIVE http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964931 YDRIVE Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:01:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964931 YDrive (to combat GDrive) is a more precise message, than the confusions of, was that SkyDrive or LiveDrive or LiveFolders...etc? :-D YDrive (to combat GDrive) is a more precise message, than the confusions of, was that SkyDrive or LiveDrive or LiveFolders…etc? :-D

]]> By: michael s http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964697 michael s Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:28:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964697 Before going product by product you need to start with some higher level calls. Brand: *What is the consumer facing brand? [transition to one brand -> Yahoo!] *What is the advertiser & publisher facing brand? [transition to one brand --> AdCenter] Business *Do you want to be in the listings business (Personals, Jobs, etc.) --- these are not businesses that play to the strengths of Microsoft. Technology: *Regardless of product brand you gotta go with the best technology or with the product with the most momentum. Momentum winner: 1.) Live Search over Y! Search -- which has stalled. 2.) Answers over Q&A Clear cut winners: 1.) MSN Messenger is a far superior product then Y! Messenger 2.) Y! Mail is superior to Hotmail 3.) Live Maps over Y! Maps Before going product by product you need to start with some higher level calls.

Brand:
*What is the consumer facing brand? [transition to one brand -> Yahoo!]
*What is the advertiser & publisher facing brand? [transition to one brand --> AdCenter]

Business
*Do you want to be in the listings business (Personals, Jobs, etc.) — these are not businesses that play to the strengths of Microsoft.

Technology:
*Regardless of product brand you gotta go with the best technology or with the product with the most momentum.

Momentum winner:
1.) Live Search over Y! Search — which has stalled.
2.) Answers over Q&A

Clear cut winners:
1.) MSN Messenger is a far superior product then Y! Messenger
2.) Y! Mail is superior to Hotmail
3.) Live Maps over Y! Maps

]]> By: Adam Sharp http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964630 Adam Sharp Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:15:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964630 "Conclusion: Microsoft adCenter will win the day" Adcenter is a bad user experience. I work with all 3 platforms daily. Panama is actually a pretty good product. Not perfect, but it's a HUGE step up from Adcenter. But with Microsoft managing it? I'm not so sure. And if they do decide to stick with Adcenter as the main platform.... wow. This buyout's gonna slow down development at MS and Yahoo. Google's gonna be the big winner. “Conclusion: Microsoft adCenter will win the day”

Adcenter is a bad user experience. I work with all 3 platforms daily. Panama is actually a pretty good product. Not perfect, but it’s a HUGE step up from Adcenter. But with Microsoft managing it? I’m not so sure. And if they do decide to stick with Adcenter as the main platform…. wow.

This buyout’s gonna slow down development at MS and Yahoo. Google’s gonna be the big winner.

]]> By: Billy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964538 Billy Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:42:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964538 Sach: You are definitely correct. Microsoft badly needs Yahoo to survive. The Internet and personal computing are rapidly moving in that direction. FYI, I blogged about that very issue here: <a href="http://twooh.blogspot.com/2008/02/microsoft-to-take-on-google.html" rel="nofollow">http://twooh.blogspot.com/2008/02/microsoft-to-take-on-google.html</a>. Sach: You are definitely correct. Microsoft badly needs Yahoo to survive. The Internet and personal computing are rapidly moving in that direction. FYI, I blogged about that very issue here: http://twooh.blogspot.com/2008.....oogle.html.

]]> By: Sach http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964533 Sach Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:31:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964533 Microsoft needs Yahoo to survive! http://tinyurl.com/2hattk Microsoft needs Yahoo to survive!

http://tinyurl.com/2hattk

]]> By: Arnie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964527 Arnie Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:30:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964527 So, that's 2x the same, except the last paragraph. So, that’s 2x the same, except the last paragraph.

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » マイクロソフトとヤフー合併で残るもの、消えるもの http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964506 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » マイクロソフトとヤフー合併で残るもの、消えるもの Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:14:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964506 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: Anas http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964460 Anas Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:28:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964460 Lots of great input... but I got tired of reading them after #35 mostly because I had something to say. #15 Darren is right. The merger will be very slow. No doubt the board will want oversight at each product merge that will take place. Because very power products are being killed. But the biggest questions came where users are involved. Will every single Yahoo user know they have access to msn services or will they still continue to make msn and yahoo accounts? What will happen when two similar products that each have gone under brutal investments must merge? What will happen to my flickr, delicious, and msn photos/favorites? Any cross migration likely to take place? How about visual interface choices? Let's just say there is about to be some reinvesting done at all levels here just for a more heartful merge. Lots of questions will have to be answered. And one more thing, this is the end of microsoft being a one man show. Openness must transcend for this to succeed. Lots of great input… but I got tired of reading them after #35 mostly because I had something to say.

#15 Darren is right. The merger will be very slow. No doubt the board will want oversight at each product merge that will take place. Because very power products are being killed.

But the biggest questions came where users are involved. Will every single Yahoo user know they have access to msn services or will they still continue to make msn and yahoo accounts? What will happen when two similar products that each have gone under brutal investments must merge? What will happen to my flickr, delicious, and msn photos/favorites? Any cross migration likely to take place? How about visual interface choices?

Let’s just say there is about to be some reinvesting done at all levels here just for a more heartful merge. Lots of questions will have to be answered.

And one more thing, this is the end of microsoft being a one man show. Openness must transcend for this to succeed.

]]> By: Anas http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964457 Anas Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:27:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1964457 Lots of great input... but I got tired of reading them after #35 mostly because I had something to say. #15 Darren is right. The merger will be very slow. No doubt the board will want oversight at each product merge that will take place. Because very power products are being killed. But the biggest questions came where users are involved. Will every single Yahoo user know they have access to msn services or will they still continue to make msn and yahoo accounts? What will happen when two similar products that each have gone under brutal investments must merge? What will happen to my flickr, delicious, and msn photos/favorites? Any cross migration likely to take place? How about visual interface choices? Let's just say there is about to be some reinvesting done at all levels here just for a more heartful merge. Lots of questions will have to be answered. Lots of great input… but I got tired of reading them after #35 mostly because I had something to say.

#15 Darren is right. The merger will be very slow. No doubt the board will want oversight at each product merge that will take place. Because very power products are being killed.

But the biggest questions came where users are involved. Will every single Yahoo user know they have access to msn services or will they still continue to make msn and yahoo accounts? What will happen when two similar products that each have gone under brutal investments must merge? What will happen to my flickr, delicious, and msn photos/favorites? Any cross migration likely to take place? How about visual interface choices?

Let’s just say there is about to be some reinvesting done at all levels here just for a more heartful merge. Lots of questions will have to be answered.

]]> By: Billy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1963931 Billy Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:58:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/02/microsoft-yahoo-what-will-stay-and-what-will-go/#comment-1963931 Great comparison Duncan. I agree with many of your hypotheses, especially on the front page and unified ID system. It will be interesting to see what happens. I agree with xoost in that this is a sad day for Yahoo. Great comparison Duncan. I agree with many of your hypotheses, especially on the front page and unified ID system. It will be interesting to see what happens. I agree with xoost in that this is a sad day for Yahoo.

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