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By: BURAK ARIKAN » Machine Readable Socialite

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By: kael

kael — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:13:35 +0000

You are an excellent PR, Michael…

By: william

william — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:38:26 +0000

If Microsoft would have done this we would up in arms….
Google does not control the relationships or the api……Just like they dont control any of the content that they spider that does not belong to them…..and turn this content that they dont own into billons of dollars for Google and very little for the original creators of the content….If goog is so good….why don’t they open source the entire project and create a non profit to run “Open” Social….They will not do this because they want to corner the market on the indexing of relationships that should be owned and controlled by the end users and not Google…Will Google ask me for permission to crawl my relationships ?

Can I delete my relationships from the Google servers…The data is on Google’s servers….and they are a company…so they do own the data…

How is this better than facebook ?

Did Google contact any of the other companies that have social networks to ask them for their input ?
No….

Will there be a standards committee that allows end users and companies other than Google to have some input into “Open” Social..Dont hold your breath….its not going to happen…

Any initiative to deal with a “Social” Graph should not be run by anyone company…Google is a company and we should stop fooling ourselves that they are in business for the public “Good”.
Google is in Business to make money and this means that by their nature they will try to dominate with little to no regard to any notion of an open standard that would even the playing field for their competitors.

By: Vikas Sah

Vikas Sah — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:39:49 +0000

This is indeed a very neat and clever way. If people start sticking to a standard way of linking to other sites with XFN tags then this will really become very useful.

By: Eclipse: A Piece for Assorted Lunatics

Eclipse: A Piece for Assorted Lunatics — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:52:18 +0000

Google аннонсирует Social Graph API. Факты и размышления….

[Russian]…О чём речь? Social graph, говоря по-русски, социальная сеть, но не в значении отдельного интернет ресурса как например, MySpace, а как явление&n…

By: J. E . Gaspard

J. E . Gaspard — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:19:02 +0000

THERE IS NO WAY THAT I WOULD EVEN CONCIDER THIS .

By: Paul Worsham

Paul Worsham — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:12:19 +0000

This is all great discussion, and expanding on #31, the public in general I think will never really care ’bout this social graph nonsense. Not unless perhaps it has celebrities in it. Marketers will care, and perhaps an evolutionary breed of SEO will surface as Relationship Exploitation Optimization (REO) specialists.

But the graph, shiny and new now, will require maintenance and tuneups like an automobile.

Except… this car will never be fully built.

Every day I’m online, I visit web pages with dead links (or the equivalent, a link to a parked domain that once had real content). Unless I’m missing something, the XFN spec does not allow for any dates that would be helpful, such the timeframe of the relationship or the date it was created/last validated. Sites like MyDeathSpace.com showcase the aging and expiration of (social) content, and XFN/microformat relationships will be no different.

Like news-sites’ articles that only link to relevant but older articles, the link trees that are built over time are time-consuming to update for relevancy between all of the nodes (and these are dated nodes).

Anywho… rock on social graph… see you on the inside.

By: Rajiv Dingra

Rajiv Dingra — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:16:37 +0000

One more thing is the web history from search. if google links those to your social graph as well its almost scary coz people would know what i search!

By: dan

dan — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:23:15 +0000

so when is google going to drop the ‘no’ from it’s motto?

By: tech analyst

tech analyst — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:39:13 +0000

Be very careful before adopting any Google APIs.

Google is at it’s heart an evil company.

On the one hand, they are working hard to open up social networks (where they suck). On the other hand, they are working hard to drive search towards a closed model.

For example, Google used to have an open web service API for search that you could leverage with your own front end and use in combination with with other search APIs. Now they have deprecated that in favor of providing a AJAX based search component that requires you to embed their widget and branding into your website.

Google needs to provide open access to search engine data - backlink data, page rank, SERP data to webmasters before they can credibly promote any “open strategy”

But of course, as an evil corporation, they are not going to do that.

By: nick

nick — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:24:58 +0000

Social graphs always remind me of those FBI charts of organized crime families.

By: graywolf

graywolf — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:44:40 +0000

@kevin I don’t do “engineer speak” so lot’s of your initial google launches leave me scratching my head like I did in high school accounting

The point I’m trying to make is yes you made it very easy for “me” to connect to “me” all over the place, which is the starting place you designed for. However instead assume I’m starting as someone pretending to be you, from a malicious point of view trying to game your system. How much critical mass of fake you do I have to get to make your system believe I’m actually you. The easier you made your system to connect the easier it will be to break through. Also the less of you there is out there the easier it will be for me to become you, digitally speaking.

By: tom

tom — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:25:04 +0000

My favorite part is when he says, ” Now I have friends, and I’m happy.”

eek…

By: william

william — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:23:17 +0000

So this is a goog initiative to take control of all individuals private relationships on the web …..

If they are so good and relay want users and developers to be in control; why not open source the project ?….oh that would mean that they would no longer be in control….so its not going to happen

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By: Josh

Josh — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:23:52 +0000

For a better understanding of “social” search and an introduction to Lijit, check this out. I think Todd knows more about “social” search than Melissa M.

http://www.lijit.com/blog/2008.....ed-search/

By: Kevin H

Kevin H — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:33:47 +0000

@graywolf:

why would I link my blog with a “me” link to someone’s twitter page that’s not mine, but says it’s mine? assuming a = my blog, b = your fake twitter, c = your fake facebook, and x being my myspace page:

a -> x
b -> a, c
c -> a, b
x -> a

You only gain the links in the forward direction, so you don’t gain a -> b by following any links, only that b and c claim to be x as well. However, what I was meaning of only needing to have a single site was more of this topology:

a -> b, c, x
b -> a
c -> a
x -> a

here, you can derive x -> a -> b; x -> a -> c, etc and get the following derived graph:

a -> b, c, x
b -> a, c, x
c -> a, b, x
x -> a, b, c

And hence, all of them claim to be the same person, so the links should be trusted as being the same person, in as much as if someone mentions that the web site b is their friend, then they should be reasonably certain that a, c, and x are the same person.

By: AlexP

AlexP — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:28:37 +0000

#27, #29 — It *was* a clueless rant, indeed. I apologize.

By: Socgraphy

Socgraphy — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:18:34 +0000

Certainly very interesting.. now what left to be done is to educate the mass public what the hack this “social graph” thing is…

By: graywolf

graywolf — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:02:34 +0000

@kevin so what if you don’t have a twitter page and myspace page I go create them pretending to be you point them at each other and at the your blog which I really don’t own, aren’t you going to connect them all, in some incestous ring? Also what do you do in the case of multiple twitter profiles pointing to one blog? Reminds me of the old show “to tell the truth” will the real Kevin H please stand up …

By: Chris Heald

Chris Heald — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:29:58 +0000

AlexP: Nothing prevents that, of course, but most intelligent uses of the data will look for mutual links, rather than one-way links.

XFN is hardly a Google invention, and it’s been around for a while.

By: Ra

Ra — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:33:29 +0000

This “innovation” is ready for Beta although it’s not really open or useful like many other Google ideas. Readers have rightly pointed out that Google will suck your info in the name of “Open” but not give back anything.