Comments on: One Million Unlocked iPhones: Beautiful.

By: IPhones · iPhone Activ

IPhones · iPhone Activ — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:32:05 +0000

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By: Apple iPhone

Apple iPhone — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:47:30 +0000

[...] One Million Unlocked iPhones: Beautiful. According to a new report issued by Bernstein Research analyst Toni Sacconaghi, one million iPhones of the 3.75 million sold have been unlocked [...]

By: Alex Linhares

Alex Linhares — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:20:12 +0000

Unlocked iphones go for USD1.100 over here in Brazil. And there’s no way you can step into a cool bar and see everyone showing their new gadget off.

Apple should have sold this thing worldwide from the start; perhaps Jobs might learn something about the dollar and the US during the next years of stagflation and recession.

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Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:40:06 +0000

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By: =jason

=jason — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:40:36 +0000

im in hong Kong right now and there are surprisingly a lot of iphones here. Every market I go to is selling them and i have encountered at least 20 people in one day with it. All unlocked..

By: alex kwiatkowski

alex kwiatkowski — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:25:12 +0000

Duncan you can unlock your phone in AU. I am running on vodafone v1.1.3 firmware.

1. If u have a 1.02 phone and used the anysim or other similar method to unlock, you need to reflash the baseband. Just look up iPhone revirginizer on google.

2. U then need to upgrade the firmware to 1.1.1, then upgrade to 1.1.2

3. Jailbreak the 1.1.2 phone and run the anysim unlock for 1.1.2

4. Upgrade to 1.1.3 using the hacked fw (The latest ibrickr does this for u but there are a couple of ways now)

5. Finished. The hacked 1.1.3 fw retains the unlock. It also fixes the annoying keypad bug if the region was set to Australia.

If u need more info u can drop me an email.

By: Michael Vu

Michael Vu — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:09:30 +0000

not surprised, at all.

By: Nemrut

Nemrut — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:56:32 +0000

..now if someone could just get Skype to work i’d gladly splurge for this beautiful, yet otherwise, useless paperweight

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:49:49 +0000

I dont blame any of the “un-lockers”….the phone is just toooo tempting to just work just for AT&T ……

bookmarked @ htto://livbit.com

By: BinaryDay

BinaryDay — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:57:30 +0000

some really great insights about how unlocked iphones, increase apple’s profits. Me impressed, by the comments

By: rubu

rubu — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:22:38 +0000

Unlocked iPhone’s do not represent lost revenue for Apple. That is revenue they wouldn’t have otherwise gained because the user likely would NOT have purchased one otherwise. They obviously didn’t want to switch to the iPhone’s carrier.

By: ox

ox — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:16:21 +0000

These numbers seem WRONG.

In the US, if you unlock to run on another network, you can only run the iPhone on another GSM network (I think t-mobile is only other in US). Who is doing that? is T-mobile US experiencing a sudden increase in new sign-ons?
Then most of these unlocked phones are be going Int’l… BUT THERE’S NO WAY 1mm phones have been purchased here in the US (orig price plus ATT/Cingular 2 year contract) and then shipped unlocked to Europe for someone to buy…

These numbers dont seem right at all to me

By: fizetés + állás

fizetés + állás — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:44:39 +0000

it was clear in advance, that in countries where AT@T is not present, and iPhone is not sold, people also use the net and want this device

so, fo course, they find a solution

it is Apples’s fault I think

By: Fred

Fred — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:34:08 +0000

Apple can’t lose. Use the logic proof method, Reductio ad absurdum. If the number of unlocked iPhones is really large, it means a really large increase in unit sales, which increases total sales, and drives down unit cost to further increase profitability. And, most customers would rather not make the extra effort to hack while simultaneously losing the perceived value of support. Finally, people are buying iPhones and hacking them to get the iPhone service in countries where it does not exist. This creates a guerrilla marketing campaign going to spur new Service Providers to sign up with Apple.

And who knows, Apple and ATT may see the wisdom and reduce their surcharge.

Hey, didn’t Steve Jobs trade in blackboxes in college that allowed you to make free long distance calls on ATT’s dime?

By: Kenneth

Kenneth — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:20:37 +0000

Do you really believe that 25% of all Iphones owners have the technical ability or desire to hack the Iphone? The chances are better that the books are cooked. These numbers are flawed.

By: joan

joan — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:20:45 +0000

Keep an eye what happens in Belgium where it’s illegal to sell a phone and a mobile service together in one deal.
You are not allowed to do something like that.
You have to seperate the two!
There’s no iphone in Belgium right now.
People buy one in the US (dollar is extremely low) and they unlock it.
What’s Apple going to do?
While I agree Belgium is a small market, I don’t think they will let a competitor move in and take all the money.
I’m not saying there’s a good alternative. Eventually they will have to sell it unlocked.

By: ox

ox — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:19:33 +0000

Question-

Is there an underground company buying, converting, and selling these unlocked phones? b/c 1mm “unlocked” (firmware or software) phones seems like a lot. seems like more than just casual or apple enthusiasts… 1 of every 3.75 phones open and not used on ATT or O2/Tmobile? that just doesnt seem right to me.

By: J.P.

J.P. — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:44:21 +0000

Duncan, check this: http://lifehacker.com/349691/o.....3-firmware

By: Bobs Your Uncle

Bobs Your Uncle — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:30:28 +0000

Then Apple should sell the unlocked version for $400-$600 above the current price to recoup the “lost” the lost revenue in non-ATT markets.

By: Borris

Borris — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:32:22 +0000

“That one million people would rage against the machine…”
did you choose to use the phrase rage against the machine because of the band’s recent Australian tour, or was it just a coincidence?

By: Erik

Erik — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:20:56 +0000

Well this is not going to help Apple’s falling stock price much.

The 10 million goal is also looking risky. At the end of the day the smart phone market is just not that big.

By: Donovan

Donovan — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:18:36 +0000

I am pretty sure these numbers are out to lunch, the one thing these articles do not mention is that you have not been able to easily unlock iphones for a while, since 1.1.2 came out you can only jailbreak them, to unlock them you need a hardware solution…

By: Duncan Riley

Duncan Riley — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:03:50 +0000

Martin
bzzzz “You must have a 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 jailbroken iPhone already for this to work (or jailbreak yours). Doesn’t help me at all, and your comment looks like spam

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:48:09 +0000

Re: Lost revenue…

They may well be losing money on each unlocked phone, as the cost of producing each phone may be higher than the standard price… with Apple making up the difference on the revenue share with AT&T (And other networks around the world).

By: Martin

Martin — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:47:37 +0000

You will find everything you need to upgrade to 1.1.3 here: http://www.modmyifone.com/