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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Fair To Say That Germans Will Soon Have Zero Access To Online File Sharing Sites</title>
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		<title>By: Thirdworlder</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/29/its-fair-to-say-that-germans-will-soon-have-zero-access-to-online-file-sharing-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-2616862</link>
		<dc:creator>Thirdworlder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Third World. Always the ones to get the last hit!</description>
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		<title>By: nebskram</title>
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		<dc:creator>nebskram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the name of your book? in case i want to down load a copy lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the name of your book? in case i want to down load a copy lol</p>
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		<title>By: daniyal</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniyal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.checkedsearch.com has just updated its functionality, leaving
behind all other rapidshare search engines: almost no ads, extremly
good results and showning only checked rapidshare links. this
combination makes it currently the best rapidshare search engine.
recent updates are really cool, must check it out!</description>
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behind all other rapidshare search engines: almost no ads, extremly<br />
good results and showning only checked rapidshare links. this<br />
combination makes it currently the best rapidshare search engine.<br />
recent updates are really cool, must check it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Upanisad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Upanisad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird, I&#039;ve always considered the common law system to be totally idiotic, bogus and broken in its basic philosophy! Even immoral! And I&#039;m not even German, I&#039;m Italian! Actually every country in Europe has a system similar to the German one, with the only exception being the UK and Ireland (and I really mean ONLY those two in the whole continent!). 
Every country has the legal system it deserves, I&#039;d say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird, I&#8217;ve always considered the common law system to be totally idiotic, bogus and broken in its basic philosophy! Even immoral! And I&#8217;m not even German, I&#8217;m Italian! Actually every country in Europe has a system similar to the German one, with the only exception being the UK and Ireland (and I really mean ONLY those two in the whole continent!).<br />
Every country has the legal system it deserves, I&#8217;d say!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Harness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Harness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, how are they going to deny access to German users using socks/proxy/private network services like SmartHide.com ? Banning all German users is not an exit in my opinion. There are many law-abiding German internet users who will get hurt.  They always have the way to avoid ban though so it&#039;s not critical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, how are they going to deny access to German users using socks/proxy/private network services like SmartHide.com ? Banning all German users is not an exit in my opinion. There are many law-abiding German internet users who will get hurt.  They always have the way to avoid ban though so it&#8217;s not critical.</p>
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		<title>By: zpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>zpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can&#039;t believe what I just read. Duncan&#039;s article and comments are totally inappropriate. I just hope that people will use some other information sources (eg. google news) to get some more truthfull information on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t believe what I just read. Duncan&#8217;s article and comments are totally inappropriate. I just hope that people will use some other information sources (eg. google news) to get some more truthfull information on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Techcrunch is going down</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techcrunch is going down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A truly childish response by Duncan.  It looks like he&#039;s been both drunk and upset about being wrong.

Arrington, get your staff into perspective or you&#039;re losing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A truly childish response by Duncan.  It looks like he&#8217;s been both drunk and upset about being wrong.</p>
<p>Arrington, get your staff into perspective or you&#8217;re losing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to have to say this but even if there is no case law in germany there still are decissions made based on other cases, even if there is no set practice to say this is the way to do it. It does not happen often though.

Also sadly, Duncan was somewhat right with his &quot;pot luck&quot; post. Although it is not as extreme as he has put it, luck is very important in the german system (but it also is in the US I&#039;m afraid, since you never know what kind of jury you get in the end).

But there are ways to direct the luck your way. I bet (I did not check, but I doubt its otherwise) the Rapidshare lawsuit was filed in Hamburg (easy to file more or less anywhere since Rapidshare is not located in germany). Hamburg&#039;s court that deceides copyright and similar cases has a track record of agreeing with the copyright owner. Does not matter how stupid their decission is in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to have to say this but even if there is no case law in germany there still are decissions made based on other cases, even if there is no set practice to say this is the way to do it. It does not happen often though.</p>
<p>Also sadly, Duncan was somewhat right with his &#8220;pot luck&#8221; post. Although it is not as extreme as he has put it, luck is very important in the german system (but it also is in the US I&#8217;m afraid, since you never know what kind of jury you get in the end).</p>
<p>But there are ways to direct the luck your way. I bet (I did not check, but I doubt its otherwise) the Rapidshare lawsuit was filed in Hamburg (easy to file more or less anywhere since Rapidshare is not located in germany). Hamburg&#8217;s court that deceides copyright and similar cases has a track record of agreeing with the copyright owner. Does not matter how stupid their decission is in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: xDest</title>
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		<dc:creator>xDest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you even discussing this matter? Rapidshare was founded in Germany. Yes. But it has very soon moved its headquarters and servers out of the country. It has been in suisse for a very long time. Like yours truly Pirate Bay its situated in a country where no german law can be executed. And as long as Germany isn&#039;t China these sites will not disappear from our internet landmark at all.
One German provider tried blocking some porn sites with shabby protection last year. But even that has been undon as it surfaced. Germany might be one step nearer to Chinese censhorship at the moment, but it still takes around 15 hours on a plane to get the real China feeling. In China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you even discussing this matter? Rapidshare was founded in Germany. Yes. But it has very soon moved its headquarters and servers out of the country. It has been in suisse for a very long time. Like yours truly Pirate Bay its situated in a country where no german law can be executed. And as long as Germany isn&#8217;t China these sites will not disappear from our internet landmark at all.<br />
One German provider tried blocking some porn sites with shabby protection last year. But even that has been undon as it surfaced. Germany might be one step nearer to Chinese censhorship at the moment, but it still takes around 15 hours on a plane to get the real China feeling. In China.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Dias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel Dias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks duncan... for these fine words of wisdom... how about less copy paste and more checking your facts... im not even talking about the german comments thats just ignorance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks duncan&#8230; for these fine words of wisdom&#8230; how about less copy paste and more checking your facts&#8230; im not even talking about the german comments thats just ignorance&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is rediculous.   Rapidshare isn&#039;t any different than any other file share, Everyone knows that the main reason these sites exists is to share things that others don&#039;t want to pay for!  and everything we share online is basically copyrighted to some one.  Unless you are the Creator of whatever the program/game/file etc is, then you&#039;re sharing something wth a copyright.
SO!  Should the content that every single Computer user sends online be monitored too?  Now how stupid does THAT sound?

I&#039;ll share what I want and with whome I want.  If it&#039;s been tossed onto the internet, where anyone has access to it, then in MY opinion, it&#039;s mine to do with what I want.
Doesn&#039;t matter what Country it&#039;s from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is rediculous.   Rapidshare isn&#8217;t any different than any other file share, Everyone knows that the main reason these sites exists is to share things that others don&#8217;t want to pay for!  and everything we share online is basically copyrighted to some one.  Unless you are the Creator of whatever the program/game/file etc is, then you&#8217;re sharing something wth a copyright.<br />
SO!  Should the content that every single Computer user sends online be monitored too?  Now how stupid does THAT sound?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll share what I want and with whome I want.  If it&#8217;s been tossed onto the internet, where anyone has access to it, then in MY opinion, it&#8217;s mine to do with what I want.<br />
Doesn&#8217;t matter what Country it&#8217;s from.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read TechCrunch everyday, and can&#039;t believe the response by Duncan on this one, totally off on a tangent and seemed offended by the earlier comments.

I&#039;ll check back in a few days to see if there is any further explanation but otherwise I have lost a lot of respect for TechCrunch and Duncan in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read TechCrunch everyday, and can&#8217;t believe the response by Duncan on this one, totally off on a tangent and seemed offended by the earlier comments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check back in a few days to see if there is any further explanation but otherwise I have lost a lot of respect for TechCrunch and Duncan in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignorant, belligerent, and proud of it. Very classy Duncan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignorant, belligerent, and proud of it. Very classy Duncan.</p>
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		<title>By: Planet Malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planet Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please! Please! Please don&#039;t close down rapidshare.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please! Please! Please don&#8217;t close down rapidshare.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far, I always valued TC for their excellent coverage. However this post leaves a mixed picture and makes me question if this site is really a reliable source of information...

Duncan, I understand that this year its election year for you guys, but - on a topic like that - sorry but I really do not get the point why getting political here? 

Its fair to say that I would expect a correction and your personal apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, I always valued TC for their excellent coverage. However this post leaves a mixed picture and makes me question if this site is really a reliable source of information&#8230;</p>
<p>Duncan, I understand that this year its election year for you guys, but &#8211; on a topic like that &#8211; sorry but I really do not get the point why getting political here? </p>
<p>Its fair to say that I would expect a correction and your personal apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@29, let&#039;s review

1) the decision has yet to be issued.  this is another TC article based on a press release
2) civil law v common law
3) another judge 30 miles away has ruled in exactly the opposite way on a very similar case.  the legislature will have to sort this out.

so, the thing that is embarrassing is the headline on this post (and the lack of a correction)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@29, let&#8217;s review</p>
<p>1) the decision has yet to be issued.  this is another TC article based on a press release<br />
2) civil law v common law<br />
3) another judge 30 miles away has ruled in exactly the opposite way on a very similar case.  the legislature will have to sort this out.</p>
<p>so, the thing that is embarrassing is the headline on this post (and the lack of a correction)</p>
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		<title>By: Wolke Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolke Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan said &quot;Didn’t the Yanks impose your legal system, or did you guys screw with it along the way?&quot;

Duncan, Schatzi, for somebody who worked for a political party (even if in Australia), you&#039;re pretty ignorant. While &quot;the Yanks&quot; helped us to finally get a stable democratic *political* system (there was a democratic system before 1933), the German *legal* system has been continued after 1945 since only individual laws were problematic. It&#039;s basis is similar to that of all of Germany&#039;s neighbors.

Back to the Rapidshare topic: It&#039;s a decision by a mid-level court (Rapidshare can still appeal), and the PR about the decision mostly comes from GEMA (music industry). This article (from Germany&#039;s best computer mag) http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/96678 tells me that the actual outcome for Rapidshare users is not yet clear -- case law or not.

BTW, why don&#039;t we hear anything about the limitations to Internet &quot;freedom&quot; your own party is planning to impose in Australia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan said &#8220;Didn’t the Yanks impose your legal system, or did you guys screw with it along the way?&#8221;</p>
<p>Duncan, Schatzi, for somebody who worked for a political party (even if in Australia), you&#8217;re pretty ignorant. While &#8220;the Yanks&#8221; helped us to finally get a stable democratic *political* system (there was a democratic system before 1933), the German *legal* system has been continued after 1945 since only individual laws were problematic. It&#8217;s basis is similar to that of all of Germany&#8217;s neighbors.</p>
<p>Back to the Rapidshare topic: It&#8217;s a decision by a mid-level court (Rapidshare can still appeal), and the PR about the decision mostly comes from GEMA (music industry). This article (from Germany&#8217;s best computer mag) <a href="http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/96678" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/96678'>http://www.heis...r/meldung/96678</a> tells me that the actual outcome for Rapidshare users is not yet clear &#8212; case law or not.</p>
<p>BTW, why don&#8217;t we hear anything about the limitations to Internet &#8220;freedom&#8221; your own party is planning to impose in Australia?</p>
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		<title>By: sd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>duncan, what an insult to german systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>duncan, what an insult to german systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Larrikin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Larrikin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On feedrinse.com you can easily set up a duncan-free TC RSS feed. I registered and configured one in less than a minute. It&#039;s a cool site, BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On feedrinse.com you can easily set up a duncan-free TC RSS feed. I registered and configured one in less than a minute. It&#8217;s a cool site, BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Embarrassing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Embarrassing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The court decision will definitively have some affect on the once-click hoster scene. There is no case law, but would you run a shop that might be shut down next week? Sorry guys...don&#039;t try to be lawyers if you are not.  Duncan is right: It will have a major impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The court decision will definitively have some affect on the once-click hoster scene. There is no case law, but would you run a shop that might be shut down next week? Sorry guys&#8230;don&#8217;t try to be lawyers if you are not.  Duncan is right: It will have a major impact.</p>
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		<title>By: rubu</title>
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		<dc:creator>rubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rofessional and sincere in your posts. Just ignore Duncan. I’ll stop reading his posts now t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rofessional and sincere in your posts. Just ignore Duncan. I’ll stop reading his posts now t</p>
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		<title>By: rubu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/29/its-fair-to-say-that-germans-will-soon-have-zero-access-to-online-file-sharing-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-1948642</link>
		<dc:creator>rubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The respective verdict is not public yet. All information floating the web right now is based on a single press release by the GEMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The respective verdict is not public yet. All information floating the web right now is based on a single press release by the GEMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Janko</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/29/its-fair-to-say-that-germans-will-soon-have-zero-access-to-online-file-sharing-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-1948635</link>
		<dc:creator>Janko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To give Duncan some credit: Germany doesn&#039;t have the same concept of legal precedence as the US on paper, but in reality a decision like this could matter quite a bit, simply because German lawyers are allowed to attach cost notes to their C&amp;D letters that are based on the hypothetical costs of cases going to trial. 

So now all they&#039;ll have to do is send tons of C&amp;D letters to smaller file hosting companies, charge them a few thousand bucks and threaten them with much more expensive lawsuits - and you&#039;ll see these services shut down left and right.

Sure, bigger companies like Rapidshare can defend themselves in court, but Joe Shmoe&#039;s hosting will most likely just cave in. And there are quite a few of those ...

This is the same strategy that the music industry used to wipe out all links to Allofmp3.com and Slysoft.com in the German web sphere. You didn&#039;t need actual case law precedence for that, a single injunction was just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To give Duncan some credit: Germany doesn&#8217;t have the same concept of legal precedence as the US on paper, but in reality a decision like this could matter quite a bit, simply because German lawyers are allowed to attach cost notes to their C&amp;D letters that are based on the hypothetical costs of cases going to trial. </p>
<p>So now all they&#8217;ll have to do is send tons of C&amp;D letters to smaller file hosting companies, charge them a few thousand bucks and threaten them with much more expensive lawsuits &#8211; and you&#8217;ll see these services shut down left and right.</p>
<p>Sure, bigger companies like Rapidshare can defend themselves in court, but Joe Shmoe&#8217;s hosting will most likely just cave in. And there are quite a few of those &#8230;</p>
<p>This is the same strategy that the music industry used to wipe out all links to Allofmp3.com and Slysoft.com in the German web sphere. You didn&#8217;t need actual case law precedence for that, a single injunction was just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Michael Arrington go to Stanford Law and and practice law for a couple years? I&#039;d love to see him comment on this. Please, Michael, save the credibility of Techcrunch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Michael Arrington go to Stanford Law and and practice law for a couple years? I&#8217;d love to see him comment on this. Please, Michael, save the credibility of Techcrunch!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Larrikin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/29/its-fair-to-say-that-germans-will-soon-have-zero-access-to-online-file-sharing-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-1948537</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Larrikin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wait, Japan uses that awful civil law. Can&#039;t be supporting that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wait, Japan uses that awful civil law. Can&#8217;t be supporting that!</p>
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