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	<title>Comments on: eBay Acquires Fraud Sciences For $169 Million</title>
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		<title>By: Geek News Daily Podcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geek News Daily #16 for January 28, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geek News Daily Podcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geek News Daily #16 for January 28, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eBay acquires Fraud Sciences for $169 million [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Unfallversicherung Vergleich</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1999974</link>
		<dc:creator>Unfallversicherung Vergleich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your opinions are very interesting</description>
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		<title>By: Nedloh312</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1950807</link>
		<dc:creator>Nedloh312</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, this is more of a publicity stunt, if they made the software themselves do you think so many people would hear of it? Thats why they spent so much, cheaper than advertising but better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, this is more of a publicity stunt, if they made the software themselves do you think so many people would hear of it? Thats why they spent so much, cheaper than advertising but better.</p>
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		<title>By: Deliggit.com &#124; The social sites' most interesting urls</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1948166</link>
		<dc:creator>Deliggit.com &#124; The social sites' most interesting urls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;eBay Acquires Fraud Sciences For $169 Million &#124; Deliggit.com...&lt;/strong&gt;

techcrunch.com  eBay through Paypal has acquired fraud detection provider Fraud Sciences Ltd for $...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>eBay Acquires Fraud Sciences For $169 Million | Deliggit.com&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>techcrunch.com</p>
<p> eBay through Paypal has acquired fraud detection provider Fraud Sciences Ltd for $&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Learner</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946172</link>
		<dc:creator>Learner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>https://www.paily.com/</description>
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		<title>By: XFX</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946112</link>
		<dc:creator>XFX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God not eBay again. Their site is full of scams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God not eBay again. Their site is full of scams.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946109</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazing they dont or cant build their own solution for less than $165M 

www.yupnup.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazing they dont or cant build their own solution for less than $165M </p>
<p><a href="http://www.yupnup.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.yupnup.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946101</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacky, you can't look at it by the revenue Fraud Science alone makes. You look at it by how this is going to benefit Ebay by increased usage of it services, stock , etc. People see ebay getting tough on fraud, then people start using it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacky, you can&#8217;t look at it by the revenue Fraud Science alone makes. You look at it by how this is going to benefit Ebay by increased usage of it services, stock , etc. People see ebay getting tough on fraud, then people start using it more.</p>
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		<title>By: IndianBytes.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946090</link>
		<dc:creator>IndianBytes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;eBay Acquires Fraud Sciences For $169 Million...&lt;/strong&gt;

posted at IndianBytes.c...</description>
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<p>posted at IndianBytes.c&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marizpan from Toledo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946077</link>
		<dc:creator>Marizpan from Toledo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@22

it actually means stick it in your a$$... close though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@22</p>
<p>it actually means stick it in your a$$&#8230; close though</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946045</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is $170M affordable? Isn't that 170x revenue?? Seems like another bad deal for ebay, must be nice to have so much cash to burn on nada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is $170M affordable? Isn&#8217;t that 170x revenue?? Seems like another bad deal for ebay, must be nice to have so much cash to burn on nada.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946034</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like an affordable way for the new CEO to raise the stock and signal to investors that Ebay is getting tough on fraud. We will see what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like an affordable way for the new CEO to raise the stock and signal to investors that Ebay is getting tough on fraud. We will see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: SalesDrivenMarketing.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1946029</link>
		<dc:creator>SalesDrivenMarketing.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this can help revive Ebay.  Seems like a lot of pro sellers are migrating over to Amazon because many of them are upset at the lack of sales they're generating from Ebay.  I know my company is generating a lot of business from Ebay sellers looking to compensate their decrease in Ebay sales through other advertising means.

www.SalesDrivenMarketing.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this can help revive Ebay.  Seems like a lot of pro sellers are migrating over to Amazon because many of them are upset at the lack of sales they&#8217;re generating from Ebay.  I know my company is generating a lot of business from Ebay sellers looking to compensate their decrease in Ebay sales through other advertising means.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.SalesDrivenMarketing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.SalesDrivenMarketing.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: sd</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945964</link>
		<dc:creator>sd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good move, new CEO. 
responsible buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good move, new CEO.<br />
responsible buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tally</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945937</link>
		<dc:creator>Tally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, it's an inside job. The new president for Paypal knows the VC firms for FS and his first act of president is to help out his friends by buying some no-name fraud company. BTW, some factoids, 1) revenues weren't $10M a year, they were $1M their last year, 2) It wasn't $169M all in, but that was based on performance expectations which will never be met because they just alerted all their customers they were closing their doors and killing off any revenue streams and finally: 3) "Bokon Too Koonet" means "to put in one's as*s", so I don't know how to even begin to respond to that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, it&#8217;s an inside job. The new president for Paypal knows the VC firms for FS and his first act of president is to help out his friends by buying some no-name fraud company. BTW, some factoids, 1) revenues weren&#8217;t $10M a year, they were $1M their last year, 2) It wasn&#8217;t $169M all in, but that was based on performance expectations which will never be met because they just alerted all their customers they were closing their doors and killing off any revenue streams and finally: 3) &#8220;Bokon Too Koonet&#8221; means &#8220;to put in one&#8217;s as*s&#8221;, so I don&#8217;t know how to even begin to respond to that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Schticky Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945935</link>
		<dc:creator>Schticky Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eBay and PayPal have developed quite a bit of internal tools for fraud detection.  This may be more of a goodwill gesture to the public than a technology breakthrough for eBay/PayPal.  I am sure they will get some new tools/technology but the impression they are sending is probably what they were really looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eBay and PayPal have developed quite a bit of internal tools for fraud detection.  This may be more of a goodwill gesture to the public than a technology breakthrough for eBay/PayPal.  I am sure they will get some new tools/technology but the impression they are sending is probably what they were really looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: truf</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945925</link>
		<dc:creator>truf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Anthony Vargus.


@15

Read the rest of the comments please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Anthony Vargus.</p>
<p>@15</p>
<p>Read the rest of the comments please.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Vargus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945920</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Vargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn't this the paily.com scam out of Israel? I heard that they just shafted all those people on paily.com and started up again in California under the name Fraud Sciences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t this the paily.com scam out of Israel? I heard that they just shafted all those people on paily.com and started up again in California under the name Fraud Sciences.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Weisman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945912</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Weisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But thats enough political speak for a techblog.  I agree with you that perception and image can be deceiving...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But thats enough political speak for a techblog.  I agree with you that perception and image can be deceiving&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Weisman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945911</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Weisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its hard to bite as well.  If you look at recent historical events it is not capabilities or ingenuity that are limited.  Morality and public opinion have rendered certain forces impotent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its hard to bite as well.  If you look at recent historical events it is not capabilities or ingenuity that are limited.  Morality and public opinion have rendered certain forces impotent.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Weisman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945910</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Weisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15

Its hard to bark when you wear a muzzle to make sure you protect innocents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15</p>
<p>Its hard to bark when you wear a muzzle to make sure you protect innocents.</p>
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		<title>By: Bokon Too Koonet</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945839</link>
		<dc:creator>Bokon Too Koonet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@13

a. you are stupid....and being jewish probably wouldn't have saved you
b. online fraud is a real problem
c. the problem is that there is a perception that israeli technologies are somehow superior. The political circumstances surrounding that society requires them to push this perception when it comes to their military capability, though recent historical events have shown it is more bark than bite.

This also manifests itself in the way their technology and companies are pushed and perceived. People really need to take a step back.

They are producing a lot of good things, but let me tell you, as a whole i've seen too much hot air, and empty promises to substantiate most M&#38;A deals involving Israeli and middle-eastern companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13</p>
<p>a. you are stupid&#8230;.and being jewish probably wouldn&#8217;t have saved you<br />
b. online fraud is a real problem<br />
c. the problem is that there is a perception that israeli technologies are somehow superior. The political circumstances surrounding that society requires them to push this perception when it comes to their military capability, though recent historical events have shown it is more bark than bite.</p>
<p>This also manifests itself in the way their technology and companies are pushed and perceived. People really need to take a step back.</p>
<p>They are producing a lot of good things, but let me tell you, as a whole i&#8217;ve seen too much hot air, and empty promises to substantiate most M&amp;A deals involving Israeli and middle-eastern companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bokon Too Koonet</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945831</link>
		<dc:creator>Bokon Too Koonet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revenues were about $10M, growing at about 22% monthly. Most of the customers were mid-tier e-commerce players.

Another acquisition of an Israeli company for way too much money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revenues were about $10M, growing at about 22% monthly. Most of the customers were mid-tier e-commerce players.</p>
<p>Another acquisition of an Israeli company for way too much money.</p>
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		<title>By: truf</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945825</link>
		<dc:creator>truf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Invent fraudulent ways to scare people online.
2. Show up with an anti-fraud system and new company name.
...
...
...
6. Profit by selling your company for $169 million dollars.

Why didn't I think of this as a business model. Oh that's right, I'm not Jewish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Invent fraudulent ways to scare people online.<br />
2. Show up with an anti-fraud system and new company name.<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;<br />
6. Profit by selling your company for $169 million dollars.</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t I think of this as a business model. Oh that&#8217;s right, I&#8217;m not Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: James Curran</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/ebay-acquires-fraud-sciences-for-169-million/#comment-1945778</link>
		<dc:creator>James Curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea, 

"Shouldn’t the more proper acquirer be Google (obviously, for anti-clickfrauds..) "


Yea, but Google makes more money off of letting the click fraud happen. Until absolutely necessary, they'll keep turning a blind eye.

Why spend $170m on something that will cut your revenue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea, </p>
<p>&#8220;Shouldn’t the more proper acquirer be Google (obviously, for anti-clickfrauds..) &#8221;</p>
<p>Yea, but Google makes more money off of letting the click fraud happen. Until absolutely necessary, they&#8217;ll keep turning a blind eye.</p>
<p>Why spend $170m on something that will cut your revenue?</p>
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