Comments on: Delver Comes Out Of Stealth With a New Twist on Social Search http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:56:30 -0800 hourly 1 By: Francis Davey http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-2611098 Francis Davey Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:56:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-2611098 Its an appalling idea. I just stumbled across a profile meant for me using google updates. Its full of out of date and incorrect (in the sense it was never true) information about me - none of which is currently indexed by google for instance. That's just going to annoy people and (in the UK) has data protection difficulties. Sure, deliver up what you find about me, but if you munge it all together its bound to become inaccurate and without sourcing unverifiable. Hope it crashes and burns. Its an appalling idea. I just stumbled across a profile meant for me using google updates. Its full of out of date and incorrect (in the sense it was never true) information about me – none of which is currently indexed by google for instance. That’s just going to annoy people and (in the UK) has data protection difficulties.

Sure, deliver up what you find about me, but if you munge it all together its bound to become inaccurate and without sourcing unverifiable.

Hope it crashes and burns.

]]> By: Social Search Engine Delver On Death Watch http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-2602385 Social Search Engine Delver On Death Watch Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:32:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-2602385 [...] came out of stealth mode only a year ago with an interesting approach to search that aimed to uncover and make accessible [...] [...] came out of stealth mode only a year ago with an interesting approach to search that aimed to uncover and make accessible [...]

]]> By: Israel Makes Strong TC50 Showing « Tech N’ Marketing http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-2465966 Israel Makes Strong TC50 Showing « Tech N’ Marketing Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:30:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-2465966 [...] has developed a search engine designed to uncover knowledge and information that exists in users’ social graphs. Delver is [...] [...] has developed a search engine designed to uncover knowledge and information that exists in users’ social graphs. Delver is [...]

]]> By: Global Geek News #6 | Global Geek News http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-2441423 Global Geek News #6 | Global Geek News Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:53:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-2441423 [...] Delver comes out of stealth with a new twist on social search [...] [...] Delver comes out of stealth with a new twist on social search [...]

]]> By: Delver’s Social Graph Search Engine Now Open to All | Roi Carthy :: Product Launch Consultant http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-2409908 Delver’s Social Graph Search Engine Now Open to All | Roi Carthy :: Product Launch Consultant Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:39:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-2409908 [...] which came out of stealth back in January is announcing today that its social graph search engine is open to the public. [...] [...] which came out of stealth back in January is announcing today that its social graph search engine is open to the public. [...]

]]> By: Delver’s Social Graph Search Engine Now Open to All http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-2409294 Delver’s Social Graph Search Engine Now Open to All Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:58:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-2409294 [...] which came out of stealth back in January is announcing today that its social graph search engine is open to the public. [...] [...] which came out of stealth back in January is announcing today that its social graph search engine is open to the public. [...]

]]> By: Market Validation http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1958262 Market Validation Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:05:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1958262 Google’s Marissa Mayer - Social search is the future @ http://venturebeat.com/2008/01/31/googles-marissa-mayer-social-search-is-the-future/ Google’s Marissa Mayer – Social search is the future @
http://ventureb...-is-the-future/

]]> By: Complex Rhetoric http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1954511 Complex Rhetoric Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:49:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1954511 <strong>Delver: Social search...</strong> It will be interesting to see how this idea works out. Based on the description above it sounds something like search on Facebook, which defaults to the users network and friends (and which I find incredibly annoying). Based on my experience with Fac..... Delver: Social search…

It will be interesting to see how this idea works out. Based on the description above it sounds something like search on Facebook, which defaults to the users network and friends (and which I find incredibly annoying). Based on my experience with Fac…..

]]> By: sean percival http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1953260 sean percival Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:17:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1953260 Looks interesting, started a page for them here: http://www.mahalo.com/Delver Looks interesting, started a page for them here:

http://www.mahalo.com/Delver

]]> By: Pascal Van Hecke http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1951845 Pascal Van Hecke Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:03:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1951845 Lijit (lijit.com) has been doing the same thing since about a year. (which doesn't mean that there shouldn't be more competitors in the same space, the more, the merrier of course :-) ) Lijit (lijit.com) has been doing the same thing since about a year.
(which doesn’t mean that there shouldn’t be more competitors in the same space, the more, the merrier of course :-) )

]]> By: Tom http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1950298 Tom Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:37:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1950298 I've already saw something similar so they are NOT the first: http://web2berlin.crowdvine.com/profiles/6397 I’ve already saw something similar so they are NOT the first:

http://web2berl...m/profiles/6397

]]> By: Confused http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1949001 Confused Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:10:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1949001 This seems like the same idea warmed over....Does anyone know if these guys have taken any venture capital or outside funding? BTW...does anyone know of any good web sites that detail or summarize technology capital investments? This seems like the same idea warmed over….Does anyone know if these guys have taken any venture capital or outside funding?

BTW…does anyone know of any good web sites that detail or summarize technology capital investments?

]]> By: Rick Wolff http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1948910 Rick Wolff Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:34:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1948910 Oh, good. Another Web geegaw that assumes we already have friends. Oh, good. Another Web geegaw that assumes we already have friends.

]]> By: sauravh http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1947018 sauravh Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:33:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1947018 cool idea cool idea

]]> By: Delver Poised to Become a Lifestreaming Search Engine | Lifestream Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946608 Delver Poised to Become a Lifestreaming Search Engine | Lifestream Blog Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:44:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946608 [...] I read about Delver over at TechCrunch. At first glance it appears a bit like services from Spock or Wink that allow you to claim your [...] [...] I read about Delver over at TechCrunch. At first glance it appears a bit like services from Spock or Wink that allow you to claim your [...]

]]> By: Kin Lane http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946521 Kin Lane Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:07:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946521 Will small business follow suit? Be ahead of the curve in comparison to Enterprise? Will small business follow suit? Be ahead of the curve in comparison to Enterprise?

]]> By: raskin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946517 raskin Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:59:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946517 So wait...they stole cozi.com's logo? Why is that not addressed in the article or something? That's messed up! So wait…they stole cozi.com’s logo? Why is that not addressed in the article or something? That’s messed up!

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 検索する人の友だちを見て全然違う検索結果を出すエンジン「Delver」 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946440 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 検索する人の友だちを見て全然違う検索結果を出すエンジン「Delver」 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:30:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946440 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: Delver: Next Google or Useless Gadget? « http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946338 Delver: Next Google or Useless Gadget? « Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:08:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946338 [...] No Comments Basically, Delver is a search engine based on the members of your social networks. TechCrunch: “Search for “New York,” and the results that will pop up will be blog posts from people [...] [...] No Comments Basically, Delver is a search engine based on the members of your social networks. TechCrunch: “Search for “New York,” and the results that will pop up will be blog posts from people [...]

]]> By: salary Xpert http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946299 salary Xpert Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:30:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946299 this idea seems to be new, we will see ... this idea seems to be new, we will see …

]]> By: Jeff http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946137 Jeff Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:59:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946137 so many social tools, how many do we need www.yupnup.com so many social tools, how many do we need

http://www.yupnup.com

]]> By: Lisa Brewster http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946080 Lisa Brewster Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:28:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946080 This is going to be a fabulous way to increase traffic and tighten up the network connections on small to medium blogs that have trouble outranking the greasy SEO types on traditional search engines. This service will facilitate more emails like "Hi, I'm a friend of so-and-so and was really impressed with your thoughts on #topic. Let's find each other at the next Lunch 2.0 to exchange ideas!" This is going to be a fabulous way to increase traffic and tighten up the network connections on small to medium blogs that have trouble outranking the greasy SEO types on traditional search engines. This service will facilitate more emails like “Hi, I’m a friend of so-and-so and was really impressed with your thoughts on #topic. Let’s find each other at the next Lunch 2.0 to exchange ideas!”

]]> By: Pat http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1946041 Pat Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:44:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1946041 Sounds like an interesting idea. I would be concerned with my search results changing over time or as my social sphere evolved. If I was trying to re-find something I had seen before it sounds like this search engine might not be the best. If I used it in conjunction with a www.webmynd.com type product that might solve this problem. Sounds like an interesting idea. I would be concerned with my search results changing over time or as my social sphere evolved. If I was trying to re-find something I had seen before it sounds like this search engine might not be the best. If I used it in conjunction with a http://www.webmynd.com type product that might solve this problem.

]]> By: Jim http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1945989 Jim Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:50:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1945989 It sounds like delver is actually the first subjective search engine. Interesting idea. I can think about several things that I would not like to search there (Porn), But, actually it can be very helpful for finding stuff like skills, hobbies, ideas, opinions and stuff. Cool. It sounds like delver is actually the first subjective search engine. Interesting idea. I can think about several things that I would not like to search there (Porn), But, actually it can be very helpful for finding stuff like skills, hobbies, ideas, opinions and stuff.
Cool.

]]> By: Tac Leung (Eurekster) http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-1945965 Tac Leung (Eurekster) Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:32:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/delver-comes-out-of-stealth-with-a-new-twist-on-social-search/#comment-1945965 Back in 2003, Eurekster partnered with Friendster to power their web search. We created a unique search engine for each user, and the results were influenced by the activity of your 1st degree friends, and to a lesser degree by your 2nd and 3rd degree network. Not dissimilar to Delver. We found that statistically, your friends rarely search for exactly the same terms as you do - which is why we added the 2nd and 3rd degree network influence: to increase the chances that you would see the effect of your network. However, we found that this didn't exactly make the results more relevant to your search because we weren't taking into account the context of the search. ("Bass" - was that for music or fishing?) At that point, we refined our focus on groups within Friendster to provide context. (i.e. a search engine for the 'music' interest group.) We found the behavior of these 'communities of interest' were more consistent and easier to harness than 'communities of relationships'. We also found that in this context, users didn't need to be logged in to provide and derive value. Eventually, we created a product around this concept that we called 'swicki' - which allows anyone to create a custom vertical search engine that can be placed on any site or blog and learns from the activity of that community. I'm looking forward to trying Delver to see if they have managed to make friend-of-a-friend based social reranking work at producing more relevant results. Good luck. Back in 2003, Eurekster partnered with Friendster to power their web search. We created a unique search engine for each user, and the results were influenced by the activity of your 1st degree friends, and to a lesser degree by your 2nd and 3rd degree network. Not dissimilar to Delver.

We found that statistically, your friends rarely search for exactly the same terms as you do – which is why we added the 2nd and 3rd degree network influence: to increase the chances that you would see the effect of your network. However, we found that this didn’t exactly make the results more relevant to your search because we weren’t taking into account the context of the search. (”Bass” – was that for music or fishing?)

At that point, we refined our focus on groups within Friendster to provide context. (i.e. a search engine for the ‘music’ interest group.) We found the behavior of these ‘communities of interest’ were more consistent and easier to harness than ‘communities of relationships’. We also found that in this context, users didn’t need to be logged in to provide and derive value.

Eventually, we created a product around this concept that we called ’swicki’ – which allows anyone to create a custom vertical search engine that can be placed on any site or blog and learns from the activity of that community.

I’m looking forward to trying Delver to see if they have managed to make friend-of-a-friend based social reranking work at producing more relevant results. Good luck.

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