Comments on: Globally, Baidu Beats Microsoft in Search; Yandex Creeping Up On Ask http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/ Startup and Technology News Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:32:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: The Biggest Tech IPO of 2008 Is Coming Out of Russia: Search Engine Yandex to Raise Up To $2 Billion http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-2313584 The Biggest Tech IPO of 2008 Is Coming Out of Russia: Search Engine Yandex to Raise Up To $2 Billion Tue, 20 May 2008 21:23:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-2313584 [...] Yandex has a bigger search market share in Russia than Google (it is the biggest site in Russia overall). And in Europe it is the No. 3 search engine, ahead of Yahoo and Microsoft. Globally, it is in the top 10. [...] [...] Yandex has a bigger search market share in Russia than Google (it is the biggest site in Russia overall). And in Europe it is the No. 3 search engine, ahead of Yahoo and Microsoft. Globally, it is in the top 10. [...]

]]> By: Favorieten en bookmarks voor 22nd januari tot 28th januari | Cafe del Marketing http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-2062528 Favorieten en bookmarks voor 22nd januari tot 28th januari | Cafe del Marketing Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:15:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-2062528 [...] Globally, Baidu Beats Microsoft in Search; Yandex Creeping Up On Ask - [...] [...] Globally, Baidu Beats Microsoft in Search; Yandex Creeping Up On Ask - [...]

]]> By: Arona http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1945434 Arona Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:53:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1945434 Yandex is a very good engine, but Google.ru is slowly getting better and picking up market share. Yandex white labels its search to Mail.ru, so maybe these figures are counted as well?? One thing to note is the Yandex design - undertaken by artlebedev, its a very functional and well thought out design. Yandex is a very good engine, but Google.ru is slowly getting better and picking up market share.

Yandex white labels its search to Mail.ru, so maybe these figures are counted as well??

One thing to note is the Yandex design - undertaken by artlebedev, its a very functional and well thought out design.

]]> By: alexf2000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1945430 alexf2000 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:45:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1945430 Yandex's numbers does not look very reliable. They probably included all searches that was done by automated crawlers and content grabbers and there are a lot of them. Have a look at this article (in Russian): http://alexf.name/2008-01-28/kak-poiskoviki-monetiziruyut-seoshnikov/ Second image produced by special tool of yandex, showing volume of requests. Number of requests for very rare but commercial query jumped from 600 to almost 200 000 in just 1 month. Fact that they showing this new numbers indicates that they does not filter automated bot requests. Yandex’s numbers does not look very reliable. They probably included all searches that was done by automated crawlers and content grabbers and there are a lot of them. Have a look at this article (in Russian): http://alexf.name/2008-01-28/k.....eoshnikov/ Second image produced by special tool of yandex, showing volume of requests. Number of requests for very rare but commercial query jumped from 600 to almost 200 000 in just 1 month. Fact that they showing this new numbers indicates that they does not filter automated bot requests.

]]> By: My-Hou http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944709 My-Hou Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:38:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944709 As a Chinese person had to Baidu in China's development that amazed！ As a Chinese person had to Baidu in China’s development that amazed！

]]> By: My-Hou不務正業 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944707 My-Hou不務正業 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:36:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944707 <strong>Worldwide Search Top 10-全球搜索引擎排行...</strong> comScore是一家美国互联网流量跟踪分析公司，几天前发布2007年12月月度全球搜索引擎排行榜：Worldwide Search Top 10 百度也因百度日本被”点名”，进入三甲之列，百度日本看来收获不少（..... Worldwide Search Top 10-全球搜索引擎排行…

comScore是一家美国互联网流量跟踪分析公司，几天前发布2007年12月月度全球搜索引擎排行榜：Worldwide Search Top 10
百度也因百度日本被”点名”，进入三甲之列，百度日本看来收获不少（…..

]]> By: Flash The Ripper http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944528 Flash The Ripper Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:09:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944528 BTW, Yandex is excellent search engine, they also handle a lot of unique functions like considering morphology of words in search queries to produse smarter results. Also, they handle the Russian blogosphere, cleverly. Personally, I prefer Google, but sometimes Yandex is just couldn't be replaced even with Gogole (I live in Ukraine which shares a lot of web space and interests with Russia and other ex-USSR countries). BTW, Yandex is excellent search engine, they also handle a lot of unique functions like considering morphology of words in search queries to produse smarter results. Also, they handle the Russian blogosphere, cleverly.
Personally, I prefer Google, but sometimes Yandex is just couldn’t be replaced even with Gogole (I live in Ukraine which shares a lot of web space and interests with Russia and other ex-USSR countries).

]]> By: Flash The Ripper http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944525 Flash The Ripper Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:05:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944525 I guess Baidu success is based not only on their search capabilities, but on the Chinese government who banned the Google from use in China (<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/18/cyberwar-china-declares-war-on-western-search-sites/" rel="nofollow">there's a TechCrunch post covering this situation</a>). Also, Baidu use the Google's UI design, including color scheme. Not pretty fair play for Baidu. I think if Russian government could do so (close the access to the Google from Russia), Yandex could be far more closer to the top in the Search Engines rating. Happily, Russian government doesn't understand anything regarding web, they're too busy with oil I guess. I guess Baidu success is based not only on their search capabilities, but on the Chinese government who banned the Google from use in China (there’s a TechCrunch post covering this situation). Also, Baidu use the Google’s UI design, including color scheme.

Not pretty fair play for Baidu. I think if Russian government could do so (close the access to the Google from Russia), Yandex could be far more closer to the top in the Search Engines rating. Happily, Russian government doesn’t understand anything regarding web, they’re too busy with oil I guess.

]]> By: Clement http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944502 Clement Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:29:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944502 Good for Baidu.Google and Yahoo must reign in US and other countries, not in China. Good for Baidu.Google and Yahoo must reign in US and other countries, not in China.

]]> By: DuBois http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944001 DuBois Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:14:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1944001 Not really news. It kind of reflects your cultural ignorance really if you are surprised by such statistics and they are not far off from the last few months report. Probably just that folks who don't use roman characters don't visit TechCrunch or care about The Crunchies for example, yes there is a world outside of The Bay Area. Your rhetorical question "Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language? " is a little stupid really. Not really news. It kind of reflects your cultural ignorance really if you are surprised by such statistics and they are not far off from the last few months report. Probably just that folks who don’t use roman characters don’t visit TechCrunch or care about The Crunchies for example, yes there is a world outside of The Bay Area. Your rhetorical question “Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language? ” is a little stupid really.

]]> By: Brian http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1943464 Brian Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:21:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1943464 I am a big time Yahoo! fan....although Google is quicker...somehow I like Yahoo much better. It clearly retrieves more results in a single search...may be their crawler is more powerful... Google is more of a hype. Although they do have some smart people inside, and their life seems to be very rossy now...they should just realize "not everyday is a Sunday"....Yahoo! rocks! bookmarked @ http://livbit.com I am a big time Yahoo! fan….although Google is quicker…somehow I like Yahoo much better. It clearly retrieves more results in a single search…may be their crawler is more powerful… Google is more of a hype. Although they do have some smart people inside, and their life seems to be very rossy now…they should just realize “not everyday is a Sunday”….Yahoo! rocks!

bookmarked @ http://livbit.com

]]> By: poorna shashank http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1942574 poorna shashank Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:29:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1942574 @Erick “Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language?” The major part of search technology that is independent of language is the weightage given to links. Other than that, many of the linguistic features of search vary significantly from language to language. If search technology were to just limit themselves to interpreting words as a random stream of bytes - then your comment might have held strength but if it were to go any further beyond that language would play a much much major role as Otis has already explained. @Erick

“Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language?”

The major part of search technology that is independent of language is the weightage given to links. Other than that, many of the linguistic features of search vary significantly from language to language.

If search technology were to just limit themselves to interpreting words as a random stream of bytes - then your comment might have held strength but if it were to go any further beyond that language would play a much much major role as Otis has already explained.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1942539 Chris Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:09:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1942539 Erick，Baidu is a great produce and very good at local language（all non-roma alphabet）。great capacity for liquormagnanimity Chinese information. Erick，Baidu is a great produce and very good at local language（all non-roma alphabet）。great capacity for liquormagnanimity Chinese information.

]]> By: Otis Gospodnetic http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1942498 Otis Gospodnetic Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:40:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1942498 Erick: "Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language?" Search technology is *very* closely tied to the language/linguistics. While Google does a good job with English and some other languages, it doesn't handle all languages well. Each language requires a different treatment. English lends itself to easy stemming, for example, while with CJK languages (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) stemming makes no sense. With English "Did you mean?" spelling correction makes sense, but much less so with Chinese or Japanese. And so on. Thus, saying "Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language?" doesn't really make sense, technically. Erick:

“Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language?”

Search technology is *very* closely tied to the language/linguistics. While Google does a good job with English and some other languages, it doesn’t handle all languages well. Each language requires a different treatment. English lends itself to easy stemming, for example, while with CJK languages (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) stemming makes no sense.

With English “Did you mean?” spelling correction makes sense, but much less so with Chinese or Japanese.

And so on.
Thus, saying “Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language?” doesn’t really make sense, technically.

]]> By: Everett http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941981 Everett Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:43:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941981 I find these global stats to be somewhat misleading. Yes- the stats are measured by searches but these are #s taken from one very populous country- China. That's just 1 country and shouldn't be represented as the whole world. Anything you build in China will have more views and more clicks because they're simply more people there! I find these global stats to be somewhat misleading. Yes- the stats are measured by searches but these are #s taken from one very populous country- China. That’s just 1 country and shouldn’t be represented as the whole world. Anything you build in China will have more views and more clicks because they’re simply more people there!

]]> By: Shawn http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941777 Shawn Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:57:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941777 For this reason I make many web pages in foreign languages! The global Market is a big market to capitalize on For this reason I make many web pages in foreign languages! The global Market is a big market to capitalize on

]]> By: Greg http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941736 Greg Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:38:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941736 BTW, Yandex is copying Yahoo and Google in everything else but search. They lunch copy-cat projects in .ru zone one after another. You can almost use them as a test to see what's best out of Google's and Yahoo's projects. I think that if either Google or Yahoo want to get a bite out of Russian online advertising market they have to partner with Yandex, mail.ru or pochta.ru, Otherwise they will be left out of that sweet cash pie. BTW, Yandex is copying Yahoo and Google in everything else but search. They lunch copy-cat projects in .ru zone one after another. You can almost use them as a test to see what’s best out of Google’s and Yahoo’s projects. I think that if either Google or Yahoo want to get a bite out of Russian online advertising market they have to partner with Yandex, mail.ru or pochta.ru, Otherwise they will be left out of that sweet cash pie.

]]> By: Sputnik http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941725 Sputnik Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:29:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941725 I couldn't believe it. It's "Sputnik 1" search engine. Yandex have most amazing search results. If you type apple computer. Bam. http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=apple+computer I couldn’t believe it. It’s “Sputnik 1″ search engine.

Yandex have most amazing search results. If you type apple computer. Bam.
http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearc.....e+computer

]]> By: TS http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941719 TS Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:24:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941719 "culture and marketing play a big role as well—unless, of course, you are Google" Why? Baidu and Yandex clearly beat Google in their home countries, so obviously these things matter for Google too. “culture and marketing play a big role as well—unless, of course, you are Google”

Why? Baidu and Yandex clearly beat Google in their home countries, so obviously these things matter for Google too.

]]> By: Greg http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941715 Greg Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:20:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941715 I think Yandex beats both Yahoo and Google when it comes to quality of search in Russian because of the specifics of Russian language I think Yandex beats both Yahoo and Google when it comes to quality of search in Russian because of the specifics of Russian language

]]> By: Yandex stock http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941712 Yandex stock Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:15:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941712 Imagine Yandex and Baidu went secret mega billion dollar merger. Damn, the russians & chinese would get super rich. That is super trading power. They would share technology search engine secrets. Microsoft live can't beat Yandex. Believe me the russians are good at search engine. I've test that search. It's way better than Google. Imagine Yandex and Baidu went secret mega billion dollar merger. Damn, the russians & chinese would get super rich. That is super trading power.
They would share technology search engine secrets.

Microsoft live can’t beat Yandex. Believe me the russians are good at search engine. I’ve test that search. It’s way better than Google.

]]> By: Yakov http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941689 Yakov Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:05:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941689 Yandex should be ranked higher. See my blog post. Yandex should be ranked higher. See my blog post.

]]> By: Mikeal http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941612 Mikeal Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:22:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941612 yes the best search engine no matter the language will win. But as such no search engine has truely catered for the global digital village. Heck the current crops of search engines are stuggling with their predominant languages let alot trying to tackle others. Look at google , they spend all that money and time trying to deliver great results in english yet their results are full of spam , crap and its getting worse everyday. If a local language engine delivers for its national audience then good for them. yes the best search engine no matter the language will win. But as such no search engine has truely catered for the global digital village.

Heck the current crops of search engines are stuggling with their predominant languages let alot trying to tackle others. Look at google , they spend all that money and time trying to deliver great results in english yet their results are full of spam , crap and its getting worse everyday.

If a local language engine delivers for its national audience then good for them.

]]> By: waterman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941573 waterman Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:53:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941573 Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language? Yandex.ru delivers better results for search in Russian than Google.ru Shouldn’t the best search technology win no matter what the language?
Yandex.ru delivers better results for search in Russian than Google.ru

]]> By: Allen Stern http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941553 Allen Stern Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:41:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/globally-baidu-beats-microsoft-in-search-yandex-creeping-up-on-ask/#comment-1941553 nice find erick - when i wrote about the changes with ms/yahoo/google earlier this week, I didn't see the global engine data -- after meeing with Yandex a week ago, I believe that others can prosper in their own country or countries. http://www.centernetworks.com/december-search-engine-report nice find erick - when i wrote about the changes with ms/yahoo/google earlier this week, I didn’t see the global engine data — after meeing with Yandex a week ago, I believe that others can prosper in their own country or countries.
http://www.centernetworks.com/.....ine-report

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