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	<title>Comments on: Belt-Tightening In Corporate IT Spending Will be Good For Web 2.0</title>
	<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 09:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; The Software Marketplace in NOT in a Recession Ask BINC: The BINC Blog: Ask BINC</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-2036405</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; The Software Marketplace in NOT in a Recession Ask BINC: The BINC Blog: Ask BINC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] where I haven’t seen a boom like the one we’re having for the past 10 years. (Infact Techcrunch had an article on how Web 2.0 should thrive in the recession.) I tried to explain to him that even [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] where I haven’t seen a boom like the one we’re having for the past 10 years. (Infact Techcrunch had an article on how Web 2.0 should thrive in the recession.) I tried to explain to him that even [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Kemmish</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1945298</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Kemmish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1945298</guid>
		<description>"The pay-as-you-go pricing of Web-hosted software might have greater appeal to IT managers on a restricted budget"

Ah, how soon they forget!  The recession of the early 1980's (admittedly deeper than any we're likely to face now) was the biggest single catalyst in the death of pay-as-you-go commercial timesharing and the birth of the modern DP department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The pay-as-you-go pricing of Web-hosted software might have greater appeal to IT managers on a restricted budget&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, how soon they forget!  The recession of the early 1980&#8217;s (admittedly deeper than any we&#8217;re likely to face now) was the biggest single catalyst in the death of pay-as-you-go commercial timesharing and the birth of the modern DP department.</p>
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		<title>By: Kid Mercury's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1945224</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid Mercury's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1945224</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;It's Official: The Matrix is Collapsing...&lt;/strong&gt;

January 25th marked Pluto's entrance into Capricorn, a time when we can expect the collapse -- what new economy consultants BubbleGeneration have referred to as the "macropocalyse" -- to accelerate, a......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>It&#8217;s Official: The Matrix is Collapsing&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>January 25th marked Pluto&#8217;s entrance into Capricorn, a time when we can expect the collapse &#8212; what new economy consultants BubbleGeneration have referred to as the &#8220;macropocalyse&#8221; &#8212; to accelerate, a&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1944983</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1944983</guid>
		<description>Erick, I agree with your main thesis, but remember that the "good" part usually comes after the "painful" part...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick, I agree with your main thesis, but remember that the &#8220;good&#8221; part usually comes after the &#8220;painful&#8221; part&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1944056</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1944056</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Can the Software Sector be Resilient to Recession?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I was very lucky in the early 90&#8217;s being in an industry that was not only shielded from recession, in fact it was thriving.&#160; Corporate America was taught to fight their way out of the slump by Business Process Reengineering, and what better ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Can the Software Sector be Resilient to Recession?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I was very lucky in the early 90&#8217;s being in an industry that was not only shielded from recession, in fact it was thriving.&nbsp; Corporate America was taught to fight their way out of the slump by Business Process Reengineering, and what better &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: darknight247</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943934</link>
		<dc:creator>darknight247</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943934</guid>
		<description>Working at a SaaS startup, it's going to be wild but interesting ride this year and this article points out most of the reasons why.  Being on the front line and speaking with single marketers from all types of industries, it seems need is driving them to think out of the box and are looking for things that are more economical and efficient.  Another major selling point between our company and many of the other larger, more established companies is customer service.  Seems that even in the cold, logical world of PPC management and optimization, their is a need for a human touch.  Long live Enterprise 2.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working at a SaaS startup, it&#8217;s going to be wild but interesting ride this year and this article points out most of the reasons why.  Being on the front line and speaking with single marketers from all types of industries, it seems need is driving them to think out of the box and are looking for things that are more economical and efficient.  Another major selling point between our company and many of the other larger, more established companies is customer service.  Seems that even in the cold, logical world of PPC management and optimization, their is a need for a human touch.  Long live Enterprise 2.0.</p>
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		<title>By: Kin Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943568</link>
		<dc:creator>Kin Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943568</guid>
		<description>Now we have to convince all the IT directors and executives that 2.0 is a good idea for their IT.

We are getting passed the buzz factor of 2.0 so hopefully this will help them all see value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we have to convince all the IT directors and executives that 2.0 is a good idea for their IT.</p>
<p>We are getting passed the buzz factor of 2.0 so hopefully this will help them all see value.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Waters</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943540</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943540</guid>
		<description>Most of the early comments on this article miss the point. Web 2.0 products tend to be tools rather than complete solutions. Frequently they can be used to augment existing solutions, without needing the existing solution. The price point (often free) tends to make them very attractive to individual users who are trying to get the job done.

As belts tighten I think that people will be even more likely to look to online alternatives to solving their business problems. @Sridhar Vembu's comment about Salesforce and Webex thriving during the last downturn is spot on.

Chris
&lt;a href="paglo.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Paglo - The Search Engine for IT&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the early comments on this article miss the point. Web 2.0 products tend to be tools rather than complete solutions. Frequently they can be used to augment existing solutions, without needing the existing solution. The price point (often free) tends to make them very attractive to individual users who are trying to get the job done.</p>
<p>As belts tighten I think that people will be even more likely to look to online alternatives to solving their business problems. @Sridhar Vembu&#8217;s comment about Salesforce and Webex thriving during the last downturn is spot on.</p>
<p>Chris<br />
<a href="paglo.com" rel="nofollow">Paglo - The Search Engine for IT</a></p>
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		<title>By: The QuickBase Team Collaboration Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943489</link>
		<dc:creator>The QuickBase Team Collaboration Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943489</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Enterprise Web 2.0 in a Tight Economy...&lt;/strong&gt;

Erick Schonfeld’s post today Belt-Tightening In Corporate IT Spending Will be Good For Web 2.0, is right on, with a few caveats. Software as a service is cheaper upfront and requires little to no maintenance, however corporate IT depts. are...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Enterprise Web 2.0 in a Tight Economy&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Erick Schonfeld’s post today Belt-Tightening In Corporate IT Spending Will be Good For Web 2.0, is right on, with a few caveats. Software as a service is cheaper upfront and requires little to no maintenance, however corporate IT depts. are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold leung</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943469</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943469</guid>
		<description>My company develops intranet and content management solutions on top of the Drupal open source platform, and we have been seeing a steady increase in coroporate use open source software over the past years.

In the past, big companies would only consider Microsoft products for pretty everything, but now they are more open to other sources. Looking at Drupal, 5 years ago, no one knows about it. Nowadays, tons of sites including the a few Universal Studio sites are on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company develops intranet and content management solutions on top of the Drupal open source platform, and we have been seeing a steady increase in coroporate use open source software over the past years.</p>
<p>In the past, big companies would only consider Microsoft products for pretty everything, but now they are more open to other sources. Looking at Drupal, 5 years ago, no one knows about it. Nowadays, tons of sites including the a few Universal Studio sites are on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karel Lukas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943429</link>
		<dc:creator>Karel Lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943429</guid>
		<description>We're seeing large firms move very slowly -- but they will move. They're locked in to term contracts and not pleased with the quality of service they are getting. I think many will evaluate web 2.0 carefully and make the move. On the SMB/SME side, we're seeing strong adoption of Yugma. The idea of a high-quality instant web collaboration tools that are easy to adopt and use, compatible across different platforms and applications, and are priced inexpensively is very appealing to them. Companies that meet these SMB requirements will do well.

Karel Lukas
Yugma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re seeing large firms move very slowly &#8212; but they will move. They&#8217;re locked in to term contracts and not pleased with the quality of service they are getting. I think many will evaluate web 2.0 carefully and make the move. On the SMB/SME side, we&#8217;re seeing strong adoption of Yugma. The idea of a high-quality instant web collaboration tools that are easy to adopt and use, compatible across different platforms and applications, and are priced inexpensively is very appealing to them. Companies that meet these SMB requirements will do well.</p>
<p>Karel Lukas<br />
Yugma</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943363</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943363</guid>
		<description>I think it would be VERY useful to mention what sites are already being used by  Enterprise companies such as Salesforce.com, Netsuite, Siebel On Demand , Right Now, SuccessFactores, Business Objects On Demand and soon to be SAP On Demand, Microsoft Live CRM. Don't look so much at productivity suites, look at CRM or other On Demand Applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be VERY useful to mention what sites are already being used by  Enterprise companies such as Salesforce.com, Netsuite, Siebel On Demand , Right Now, SuccessFactores, Business Objects On Demand and soon to be SAP On Demand, Microsoft Live CRM. Don&#8217;t look so much at productivity suites, look at CRM or other On Demand Applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Rodkins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943358</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Rodkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943358</guid>
		<description>@Sridhar Vembu -- good point about Salesforce &#38; WebEx. 

When we hear Web 2.0, most of us think Facebook, Flickr, Digg... I imagine that's not what Erick is talking about here. 

The point is that recession will be good for SAAS, and more generally for "IT-AAS", and that can only be good news for Enterprise 2.0. Having said that, I agree with Max; enterprise 2.0 needs to grow up if it wants to play with the big boys (aka enterprises). Really a good opportunity for all.

Actually I wouldn't be suprised to see a rush of 2.0-ish acquisitions by big IT shops. GigaOM highlighted that EMC launched an enterprise version of online backup service Mozy (http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/26/weekend-coffee-break-5/). Now *that's* what I'm talking about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sridhar Vembu &#8212; good point about Salesforce &amp; WebEx. </p>
<p>When we hear Web 2.0, most of us think Facebook, Flickr, Digg&#8230; I imagine that&#8217;s not what Erick is talking about here. </p>
<p>The point is that recession will be good for SAAS, and more generally for &#8220;IT-AAS&#8221;, and that can only be good news for Enterprise 2.0. Having said that, I agree with Max; enterprise 2.0 needs to grow up if it wants to play with the big boys (aka enterprises). Really a good opportunity for all.</p>
<p>Actually I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised to see a rush of 2.0-ish acquisitions by big IT shops. GigaOM highlighted that EMC launched an enterprise version of online backup service Mozy (http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/26/weekend-coffee-break-5/). Now *that&#8217;s* what I&#8217;m talking about!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason M. Lemkin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943324</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason M. Lemkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943324</guid>
		<description>I'd like to believe this is true for us, but I suspect the opposite will be true.  In the last downturn, the typical M.O. for corporations was a KISS (1) stop spending and (2) don't add any new vendors or products.  Right now, larger corporations at least are excited about 2.0 concepts as way to innovate.  That might change in a heartbeat.  2.0 products which bypass or do not impact IT do have a chance to benefit from an 'IT freeze', but I suspect those that have IT as at least a stakeholder will be seriously challenged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to believe this is true for us, but I suspect the opposite will be true.  In the last downturn, the typical M.O. for corporations was a KISS (1) stop spending and (2) don&#8217;t add any new vendors or products.  Right now, larger corporations at least are excited about 2.0 concepts as way to innovate.  That might change in a heartbeat.  2.0 products which bypass or do not impact IT do have a chance to benefit from an &#8216;IT freeze&#8217;, but I suspect those that have IT as at least a stakeholder will be seriously challenged.</p>
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		<title>By: Sridhar Vembu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943257</link>
		<dc:creator>Sridhar Vembu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943257</guid>
		<description>It is useful to remember that both Salesforce &#38; WebEx thrived during the last recession - in fact they were relatively unknown  during the last boom. Cost was a major part of the reason.

It is not an all or nothing proposition: adopting a suite like Zoho doesn't mean abandoning or throwing away the investment already made. With our MS Office plug-in that is exactly the message we are touting - don't throw away, augment. Adoption can be very tactical and very gradual. And that business-at-the-margins is more than sufficient for new vendors to thrive -  at the time of their acquisition by Cisco, WebEx was pulling in about $250 million a year, which wouldn't qualify as a rounding error for Microsoft, but a nice chunk of change for a new company.

Sridhar Vembu
Zoho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is useful to remember that both Salesforce &amp; WebEx thrived during the last recession - in fact they were relatively unknown  during the last boom. Cost was a major part of the reason.</p>
<p>It is not an all or nothing proposition: adopting a suite like Zoho doesn&#8217;t mean abandoning or throwing away the investment already made. With our MS Office plug-in that is exactly the message we are touting - don&#8217;t throw away, augment. Adoption can be very tactical and very gradual. And that business-at-the-margins is more than sufficient for new vendors to thrive -  at the time of their acquisition by Cisco, WebEx was pulling in about $250 million a year, which wouldn&#8217;t qualify as a rounding error for Microsoft, but a nice chunk of change for a new company.</p>
<p>Sridhar Vembu<br />
Zoho</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943255</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943255</guid>
		<description>anybody read carr's "the big switch". i just picked it up the other day and this is the basic premise of his entire book. good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anybody read carr&#8217;s &#8220;the big switch&#8221;. i just picked it up the other day and this is the basic premise of his entire book. good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: User447</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943229</link>
		<dc:creator>User447</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943229</guid>
		<description>Actually swapping out new solutions is VERY expensive TCO-wise. It's probably the MOST expensive thing you can do in a company.

I would venture to say that they are going to use existing software and licenses people are trained for more efficiently, and try to run them to the bone or simply delay upgrade fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually swapping out new solutions is VERY expensive TCO-wise. It&#8217;s probably the MOST expensive thing you can do in a company.</p>
<p>I would venture to say that they are going to use existing software and licenses people are trained for more efficiently, and try to run them to the bone or simply delay upgrade fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Steel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943176</link>
		<dc:creator>Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943176</guid>
		<description>@Neil

How do you even think about comparing Dell, IBM, Oracle with the puny likes of Facebook, MYSpace, and Youtube in terms of business software. Most of the people usig these site really could care less about business. They're there to 
"hook up". Geez......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neil</p>
<p>How do you even think about comparing Dell, IBM, Oracle with the puny likes of Facebook, MYSpace, and Youtube in terms of business software. Most of the people usig these site really could care less about business. They&#8217;re there to<br />
&#8220;hook up&#8221;. Geez&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943056</link>
		<dc:creator>gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943056</guid>
		<description>advertising slowdown, that is the one i want to see analyzed

because the whole ad-supported model is not sustainable

(unless of course producers of products increase at a faster rate than commentators on producers of products... think that will happen?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>advertising slowdown, that is the one i want to see analyzed</p>
<p>because the whole ad-supported model is not sustainable</p>
<p>(unless of course producers of products increase at a faster rate than commentators on producers of products&#8230; think that will happen?)</p>
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		<title>By: Baher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943054</link>
		<dc:creator>Baher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943054</guid>
		<description>I think this "recession" is a result of a realization by most corporates that over-charged over-inusred IT solutions provided by known IT giants are overrated and does not bring out tangible real-world results compared to the cost.

And as evolution goes, when environmental changes take place, only the "evolved" species will remain on the scene.

I wrote more about it here http://technozzle.com/?p=61</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this &#8220;recession&#8221; is a result of a realization by most corporates that over-charged over-inusred IT solutions provided by known IT giants are overrated and does not bring out tangible real-world results compared to the cost.</p>
<p>And as evolution goes, when environmental changes take place, only the &#8220;evolved&#8221; species will remain on the scene.</p>
<p>I wrote more about it here <a href="http://technozzle.com/?p=61" rel="nofollow">http://technozzle.com/?p=61</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sanders</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943031</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1943031</guid>
		<description>Ditto, on Microsoft milking companies (and individuals) for decades...  Lots of IT shops are still operating fully-depreciated hardware, with much leaner crews, with agressively priced software from the likes of IBM, Oracle and so on.  These guys aren't running enteprises, because they are stupid.

If someone wants appls like these, I always point them to open-source products, like OpenOffice...  Until Microsoft responds to the requirements of their customers, instead of their boardroom, I'll keep re-directing their customers to open-source apples...  Speaking of Apple(s), XP is my last MS/OS...  I've had the MS-ring in my nose for 25 years and I never even considered buying an Apple, because I could not afford one, until now.  If I must get training, new appls and more hardware, I cannot think of a better time to consider what Steve Jobs is making, these days...  OS/X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto, on Microsoft milking companies (and individuals) for decades&#8230;  Lots of IT shops are still operating fully-depreciated hardware, with much leaner crews, with agressively priced software from the likes of IBM, Oracle and so on.  These guys aren&#8217;t running enteprises, because they are stupid.</p>
<p>If someone wants appls like these, I always point them to open-source products, like OpenOffice&#8230;  Until Microsoft responds to the requirements of their customers, instead of their boardroom, I&#8217;ll keep re-directing their customers to open-source apples&#8230;  Speaking of Apple(s), XP is my last MS/OS&#8230;  I&#8217;ve had the MS-ring in my nose for 25 years and I never even considered buying an Apple, because I could not afford one, until now.  If I must get training, new appls and more hardware, I cannot think of a better time to consider what Steve Jobs is making, these days&#8230;  OS/X.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Daley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1942920</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Daley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1942920</guid>
		<description>To those who've commented about the cost of re-training as a real obstacle to organizations moving from Microsoft Office to a lower-cost or free solution, shouldn't the question rather be: What are my ongoing costs of continuing to deploy Microsoft Office (that will also likely also involve some training costs) versus the ongoing costs to deploy a lower-cost or no-charge solution?

The reality is that for many organizations, the cost of re-training will be less than the ongoing licensing costs paid to Microsoft. When the costs are extrapolated over three years, organizations will begin to wake up to the fact that Microsoft has been milking them for decades, and that even with all the re-training costs, they will save money by migrating to another solution such as Google Apps, OpenOffice.org, or perhaps even IBM's Lotus Symphony product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who&#8217;ve commented about the cost of re-training as a real obstacle to organizations moving from Microsoft Office to a lower-cost or free solution, shouldn&#8217;t the question rather be: What are my ongoing costs of continuing to deploy Microsoft Office (that will also likely also involve some training costs) versus the ongoing costs to deploy a lower-cost or no-charge solution?</p>
<p>The reality is that for many organizations, the cost of re-training will be less than the ongoing licensing costs paid to Microsoft. When the costs are extrapolated over three years, organizations will begin to wake up to the fact that Microsoft has been milking them for decades, and that even with all the re-training costs, they will save money by migrating to another solution such as Google Apps, OpenOffice.org, or perhaps even IBM&#8217;s Lotus Symphony product.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajeev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1942909</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajeev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1942909</guid>
		<description>With offline workings using gears, even connetivity is not an issue.

http://tekno-world.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With offline workings using gears, even connetivity is not an issue.</p>
<p><a href="http://tekno-world.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://tekno-world.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1942762</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1942762</guid>
		<description>SaaS!!!!!!!!!

Companies like Salesforce will thrive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaaS!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Companies like Salesforce will thrive!</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0: A Culture of Frugality? : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1942716</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0: A Culture of Frugality? : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/25/belt-tightening-in-corporate-it-spending-will-be-good-for-web-20/#comment-1942716</guid>
		<description>[...] Schonfeld at TechCrunch wrote a post arguing that the gloomy outlook for corporate IT spending in 2008 is a good thing for Web 2.0 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Schonfeld at TechCrunch wrote a post arguing that the gloomy outlook for corporate IT spending in 2008 is a good thing for Web 2.0 [&#8230;]</p>
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