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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-2022873</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;free car quote...&lt;/strong&gt;

Excellent post. Keep it up!...</description>
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<p>Excellent post. Keep it up!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1941423</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Streaming music? Isn’t youtube just good enough for that?'
Sure you can share your mp3 via youtube
1) Take your mp3
2) Take an image
3) combine both into a 'movie' with the mp3 as soundtrack
4) upload to youtube.com
Then everyone can...
5) bask in the glorious 64kbit lo-fi audio delivered by youtube
6) get annoyed when the record label takes it down

or you could
1) Upload the mp3 to imeem.com
Then everyone can....
2) Listen to it, at CD quality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Streaming music? Isn’t youtube just good enough for that?&#8217;<br />
Sure you can share your mp3 via youtube<br />
1) Take your mp3<br />
2) Take an image<br />
3) combine both into a &#8216;movie&#8217; with the mp3 as soundtrack<br />
4) upload to youtube.com<br />
Then everyone can&#8230;<br />
5) bask in the glorious 64kbit lo-fi audio delivered by youtube<br />
6) get annoyed when the record label takes it down</p>
<p>or you could<br />
1) Upload the mp3 to imeem.com<br />
Then everyone can&#8230;.<br />
2) Listen to it, at CD quality</p>
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		<title>By: Rogee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1941368</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything I search for on SpiralFrog... they don't have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything I search for on SpiralFrog&#8230; they don&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: rainbow</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1941367</link>
		<dc:creator>rainbow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sure will bring some legal crows from the music business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sure will bring some legal crows from the music business.</p>
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		<title>By: Azam Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1940937</link>
		<dc:creator>Azam Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um,
Streaming music? Isn't youtube just good enough for that? I guess big labels will do all they can for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um,<br />
Streaming music? Isn&#8217;t youtube just good enough for that? I guess big labels will do all they can for now.</p>
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		<title>By: S&#38;M</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1940915</link>
		<dc:creator>S&#38;M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'iTunes is the leader now because they had the first model.'
Correction: iTunes borrowed their model from a load of Dotcom 1.0 companies like emusic, musicbank, myplay and even napster - they all pitched the idea of pay per download in the late 90's but none of them could secure any deals with the major lables. They were just there at the right time (when they realised that shutting down every filesharing system was impossible) and with enough business clout to make the deals that made them viable. Apple has done a lot of innovative things but the iTunes music store wasn't one of them.

Spiralfrog looks interesting but I've never been able to get the site to work - nothing using windows DRM works on my system, I think windows is paranoid about some of my development tools.
 imeem works just fine for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;iTunes is the leader now because they had the first model.&#8217;<br />
Correction: iTunes borrowed their model from a load of Dotcom 1.0 companies like emusic, musicbank, myplay and even napster - they all pitched the idea of pay per download in the late 90&#8217;s but none of them could secure any deals with the major lables. They were just there at the right time (when they realised that shutting down every filesharing system was impossible) and with enough business clout to make the deals that made them viable. Apple has done a lot of innovative things but the iTunes music store wasn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
<p>Spiralfrog looks interesting but I&#8217;ve never been able to get the site to work - nothing using windows DRM works on my system, I think windows is paranoid about some of my development tools.<br />
 imeem works just fine for me</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hendry</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1940910</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hendry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if Qtrax which is due to launch next Sunday will steal some of Sprialfrogs thunder .

Former Spiral Frog Execs , notably Robin Kent the former CEO of Spiral Frog , now work for Qtrax .

http://www.qtrax.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if Qtrax which is due to launch next Sunday will steal some of Sprialfrogs thunder .</p>
<p>Former Spiral Frog Execs , notably Robin Kent the former CEO of Spiral Frog , now work for Qtrax .</p>
<p><a href="http://www.qtrax.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.qtrax.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sans</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1940887</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't think they'd last this long. I think its a bad model.

http://www.chartvote.com is a music discover service thats said to be launching this year. I haven't heard much else about it yet though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think they&#8217;d last this long. I think its a bad model.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chartvote.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.chartvote.com</a> is a music discover service thats said to be launching this year. I haven&#8217;t heard much else about it yet though.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1940746</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Imeem launched in 2004 - so i t took 4 yrs for  them to reach thier numbers.  Why complain about SpiralFrog?  I know lots of people who use it - it is a heck of a lot easier to use than other sites.  I have said this before - iTunes is the leader now because they had the first model.  Who cares about iPods - the players are trending to be like cell phones.  They are all cool and all work.  Things are changing.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Imeem launched in 2004 - so i t took 4 yrs for  them to reach thier numbers.  Why complain about SpiralFrog?  I know lots of people who use it - it is a heck of a lot easier to use than other sites.  I have said this before - iTunes is the leader now because they had the first model.  Who cares about iPods - the players are trending to be like cell phones.  They are all cool and all work.  Things are changing&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvain</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1940610</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those speaking french a good analysis between last.fm supposed earnings and a modest indie selling platform for an unsigned artist:
http://www.corvaisier.fr/2008/01/25/la-remuneration-des-artistes-dans-le-cadre-de-diffusion-gratuite-sur-internet-par-lexemple-lastfm/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those speaking french a good analysis between last.fm supposed earnings and a modest indie selling platform for an unsigned artist:<br />
<a href="http://www.corvaisier.fr/2008/01/25/la-remuneration-des-artistes-dans-le-cadre-de-diffusion-gratuite-sur-internet-par-lexemple-lastfm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.corvaisier.fr/2008/.....le-lastfm/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1940365</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its hilarious when people complain about sites that are offering music for free.    whats the problem if spiralfrog did reach 1.2 mil uniques this month?  good for them.  go stream your music from imeem, you ingrates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its hilarious when people complain about sites that are offering music for free.    whats the problem if spiralfrog did reach 1.2 mil uniques this month?  good for them.  go stream your music from imeem, you ingrates.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1939499</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in december, imeem had over 20 million unique visitors. that's up from 19 million in november, and 18 million in october. so spiralfrog have a long road ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in december, imeem had over 20 million unique visitors. that&#8217;s up from 19 million in november, and 18 million in october. so spiralfrog have a long road ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: TechnoQ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1938984</link>
		<dc:creator>TechnoQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! Yes! Let there be more competition.The end winners are going to be us!

http://technoq.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! Yes! Let there be more competition.The end winners are going to be us!</p>
<p><a href="http://technoq.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://technoq.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1938968</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure I believe their claim of 1.2 million uniques, but even if it is true you're comparing it against imeem's user base in the US only - according to alexa (insert disclaimer about accuracy of alexa) imeem is only getting 20% of their users from the US, so their real monthly uniques are more like 15million.

I don't think users outside the US can use spiralfrog right?
One of the nice things about imeem is their worldwide user base brings all sorts of music to the table - ever heard of Kuduru? It's a Nigerian cross between techno and booty-bass - try finding any of that on iTunes, Napster or Spiralfrog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I believe their claim of 1.2 million uniques, but even if it is true you&#8217;re comparing it against imeem&#8217;s user base in the US only - according to alexa (insert disclaimer about accuracy of alexa) imeem is only getting 20% of their users from the US, so their real monthly uniques are more like 15million.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think users outside the US can use spiralfrog right?<br />
One of the nice things about imeem is their worldwide user base brings all sorts of music to the table - ever heard of Kuduru? It&#8217;s a Nigerian cross between techno and booty-bass - try finding any of that on iTunes, Napster or Spiralfrog</p>
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		<title>By: ZOMGPWN!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1938814</link>
		<dc:creator>ZOMGPWN!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lawlz.  Even though Alexa's #s are skewed off the toolbar searches, that is dang funny.

I wish I had a Comscore account.

People need to stop talking about iTunes 'killers' and just shoot the damn gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lawlz.  Even though Alexa&#8217;s #s are skewed off the toolbar searches, that is dang funny.</p>
<p>I wish I had a Comscore account.</p>
<p>People need to stop talking about iTunes &#8216;killers&#8217; and just shoot the damn gun.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1938788</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, they announced they had 1 million uniques or did this number come from comscore?  What does compete or alexa say?  

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/spiralfrog.com

Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, they announced they had 1 million uniques or did this number come from comscore?  What does compete or alexa say?  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/spiralfrog.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alexa.com/data/deta.....alfrog.com</a></p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: ZOMGPWN!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1938787</link>
		<dc:creator>ZOMGPWN!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SF is lying about their uniques...  imo.  Anyhooz,  I agree Jon.  It's amazing what an early lead and good branding will do for you.  (Also see: XBOX)  I give full props to JobsCo. but it's time for their consumer driven monopoly to end now.   *raises fist in the air dramatically*  Damn.  I just realized I'm out of cheetos.  I'll finish this revolt later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SF is lying about their uniques&#8230;  imo.  Anyhooz,  I agree Jon.  It&#8217;s amazing what an early lead and good branding will do for you.  (Also see: XBOX)  I give full props to JobsCo. but it&#8217;s time for their consumer driven monopoly to end now.   *raises fist in the air dramatically*  Damn.  I just realized I&#8217;m out of cheetos.  I&#8217;ll finish this revolt later.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/spiralfrog-exceeding-our-lack-of-expectations/#comment-1938737</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still surprised that iTunes is still dominating the marketplace in the face of these guys and others... I look forward to seeing how all this works out in the next few years.

Jon
http://woodmarvels.com - Create Unique Memories</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still surprised that iTunes is still dominating the marketplace in the face of these guys and others&#8230; I look forward to seeing how all this works out in the next few years.</p>
<p>Jon<br />
<a href="http://woodmarvels.com" rel="nofollow">http://woodmarvels.com</a> - Create Unique Memories</p>
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