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	<title>Comments on: Grouply Brings A Bit Of Facebook To Yahoo/Google Groups</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-2497112</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think you guys (Grouply) have thought this through. Your initial rush is probably just the types that will join anything for personal reasons and the scammers. I would imagine anyone that does join this will got a lot of inconsequentianl email.

You want me to enter my yahoo login, NO WAY

As for the "facebook dream" I have neighbours who wont use a messenger client but constantly leave trivial messenger type messages on their facebook feed?

Cant see the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think you guys (Grouply) have thought this through. Your initial rush is probably just the types that will join anything for personal reasons and the scammers. I would imagine anyone that does join this will got a lot of inconsequentianl email.</p>
<p>You want me to enter my yahoo login, NO WAY</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;facebook dream&#8221; I have neighbours who wont use a messenger client but constantly leave trivial messenger type messages on their facebook feed?</p>
<p>Cant see the point?</p>
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		<title>By: justafreecycler</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-2485577</link>
		<dc:creator>justafreecycler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My freecycle group just got accidentally spammed by someone who joined Grouply – I don't care whether Mark says Grouply does not spam, an unsolicited e-mail sent to a list that is not germane to the business of that list IS SO a spam. Seems she didn't quite understand the interface and, according to her, the default when joining is to e-mail your whole group inviting them in bright, vague (ie really dodgy-looking) terms. Maybe it isn't the default, but it must be quite easy because it really was accidental. She's mortified, we all got her home phone number to ring her up direct if we were that cross, which I call a real act of contrition.

The unsubscribe foooter said that you could block e-mails from grouply for a month if you wanted: given that after the superbowl fiasco groups shouldn't be invited more than once a month anyway, this seems paltry. Being one of those people who has a life largely beyond the screen. I want to be able to bar this stuff forever. That kind of thing makes it look dodgy too.

And the idea of joining any third party service that wants your password was literally a laugh-out-loud idea in this household. Even to my 13 year old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My freecycle group just got accidentally spammed by someone who joined Grouply – I don&#8217;t care whether Mark says Grouply does not spam, an unsolicited e-mail sent to a list that is not germane to the business of that list IS SO a spam. Seems she didn&#8217;t quite understand the interface and, according to her, the default when joining is to e-mail your whole group inviting them in bright, vague (ie really dodgy-looking) terms. Maybe it isn&#8217;t the default, but it must be quite easy because it really was accidental. She&#8217;s mortified, we all got her home phone number to ring her up direct if we were that cross, which I call a real act of contrition.</p>
<p>The unsubscribe foooter said that you could block e-mails from grouply for a month if you wanted: given that after the superbowl fiasco groups shouldn&#8217;t be invited more than once a month anyway, this seems paltry. Being one of those people who has a life largely beyond the screen. I want to be able to bar this stuff forever. That kind of thing makes it look dodgy too.</p>
<p>And the idea of joining any third party service that wants your password was literally a laugh-out-loud idea in this household. Even to my 13 year old.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-2464914</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of this is quite cool. Maybe I'll set up another account for such things, but right now I can't be bothered. Would be even better if you could get something going with many other forums all around. I have a whole bunch of forums outside of google/yahoo that would make something like this very handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of this is quite cool. Maybe I&#8217;ll set up another account for such things, but right now I can&#8217;t be bothered. Would be even better if you could get something going with many other forums all around. I have a whole bunch of forums outside of google/yahoo that would make something like this very handy.</p>
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		<title>By: Grouply Claims to Blow Past Ning; Now What?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-2348376</link>
		<dc:creator>Grouply Claims to Blow Past Ning; Now What?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was mainly a tool for members of multiple Yahoo groups to keep track of their activities. It then evolved into a more distinct social networking platform by expanding the ways in which members could [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Robins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-2001097</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Robins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, a number of negative rumors and false speculations have been circulating recently about Grouply, as evident in recent comments here.  I’d like to clear them up with some facts:

@Michelle:
Grouply does not spam – People are referring to the “tell a friend”-style invites that enthusiastic Grouply users have been posting to their groups.  This got a bit out of control on Super Bowl Sunday for reasons we cannot explain.  We immediately put some controls in place to limit the use of this feature.  You can read more about what happened here: http://blog.grouply.com/nobody-loves-a-spammer 

@TS:
Grouply is not a phisher and does not steal passwords.  In fact, many services (e.g., Meebo for instant messaging, T-Mobile for email access via BlackBerry) ask users for their Yahoo passwords as a way to provide them with advanced services.  As TechCrunch readers know, this is all part of the Web 2.0 trend of openness and information sharing among web applications.  Grouply uses the Yahoo password to automatically connect users to their Yahoo groups, and that’s all.  Passwords collected by Grouply are encrypted and are only readable by the Grouply application, not directly by a human.  More on that here: http://blog.grouply.com/protect#password 

@Steve:
Any Grouply user can delete their Grouply account at any time, directly from within Grouply.  Go to Settings &#62; Discontinue Using Grouply.  In addition, group owners can block their groups from Grouply if they want.

@Winifred:
Grouply and Grouply users are not in violation of the Yahoo TOS.  Grouply users are simply choosing to read and interact with their group messages on Grouply instead of in Gmail, inbox.com, etc.

@ C. Carter:
The Gmail website has controls in place to ensure that I can’t read your emails. Similarly, Grouply users cannot see messages in Grouply for groups they do not belong to.  Grouply users can view only the messages from their own groups in Grouply.

I urge anyone who has questions about Grouply to review our FAQ at http://blog.grouply.com/protect or contact me at mark@grouply.com .  You also might want to try Grouply yourself!  Test accounts are available for your use.

Mark Robins
Co-founder/CEO, Grouply</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, a number of negative rumors and false speculations have been circulating recently about Grouply, as evident in recent comments here.  I’d like to clear them up with some facts:</p>
<p>@Michelle:<br />
Grouply does not spam – People are referring to the “tell a friend”-style invites that enthusiastic Grouply users have been posting to their groups.  This got a bit out of control on Super Bowl Sunday for reasons we cannot explain.  We immediately put some controls in place to limit the use of this feature.  You can read more about what happened here: <a href="http://blog.grouply.com/nobody-loves-a-spammer" rel="nofollow">http://blog.grouply.com/nobody-loves-a-spammer</a> </p>
<p>@TS:<br />
Grouply is not a phisher and does not steal passwords.  In fact, many services (e.g., Meebo for instant messaging, T-Mobile for email access via BlackBerry) ask users for their Yahoo passwords as a way to provide them with advanced services.  As TechCrunch readers know, this is all part of the Web 2.0 trend of openness and information sharing among web applications.  Grouply uses the Yahoo password to automatically connect users to their Yahoo groups, and that’s all.  Passwords collected by Grouply are encrypted and are only readable by the Grouply application, not directly by a human.  More on that here: <a href="http://blog.grouply.com/protect#password" rel="nofollow">http://blog.grouply.com/protect#password</a> </p>
<p>@Steve:<br />
Any Grouply user can delete their Grouply account at any time, directly from within Grouply.  Go to Settings &gt; Discontinue Using Grouply.  In addition, group owners can block their groups from Grouply if they want.</p>
<p>@Winifred:<br />
Grouply and Grouply users are not in violation of the Yahoo TOS.  Grouply users are simply choosing to read and interact with their group messages on Grouply instead of in Gmail, inbox.com, etc.</p>
<p>@ C. Carter:<br />
The Gmail website has controls in place to ensure that I can’t read your emails. Similarly, Grouply users cannot see messages in Grouply for groups they do not belong to.  Grouply users can view only the messages from their own groups in Grouply.</p>
<p>I urge anyone who has questions about Grouply to review our FAQ at <a href="http://blog.grouply.com/protect" rel="nofollow">http://blog.grouply.com/protect</a> or contact me at <a href="mailto:mark@grouply.com">mark@grouply.com</a> .  You also might want to try Grouply yourself!  Test accounts are available for your use.</p>
<p>Mark Robins<br />
Co-founder/CEO, Grouply</p>
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		<title>By: skeptical</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1983041</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The explanation on their website doesn't hold water.

http://blog.grouply.com/nobody-loves-a-spammer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The explanation on their website doesn&#8217;t hold water.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.grouply.com/nobody-loves-a-spammer" rel="nofollow">http://blog.grouply.com/nobody-loves-a-spammer</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1979891</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also I have a big problem with a third party's site wanting to know my passwords...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I have a big problem with a third party&#8217;s site wanting to know my passwords&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: andyswarbs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1944535</link>
		<dc:creator>andyswarbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soap talks about Yahoo's360 service, which I think is disappearing.  Perhaps absorbed into their Y!G beta product might be a better term, and the main function of that seems to me to be on visuals rather than function, which seems in keeping with Y!G history of development.

NeoLuddite says s/he does not get it.  Have you actually tried Grouply?  Grouply is about sharing your experience of Y!G rather than (as is with your own email client) being a personal experience.  In Grouply you can bookmark, tag &#38; rate messages all of which is shareable across other users.  Whether this is of use depends on the type of group.  The archives in some groups are of little interest to anyone, however in other groups there may be definitive posts and being able to highlight these as a group experience is what Grouply is partly about.

AnonTroll asks why anyone would bother with this.  Well, it depends on how heavily one uses Y!G.  For some people it may be a main plank of their business &#38; marketing strategy, for example there are several very important LinkedIn groups on Y!G.  Also there are over 5000 freecycle and similar groups, many of which are incredibly active, now with the specific support for this community their are some strong reasons for over 5,000,000 active users to actively consider Grouply.

Technicle reports on picking up on the Facebook dream.  Well Facebook, for good or ill is helping reshape the Internet and, imo, other social networking sites may ignore them at their peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soap talks about Yahoo&#8217;s360 service, which I think is disappearing.  Perhaps absorbed into their Y!G beta product might be a better term, and the main function of that seems to me to be on visuals rather than function, which seems in keeping with Y!G history of development.</p>
<p>NeoLuddite says s/he does not get it.  Have you actually tried Grouply?  Grouply is about sharing your experience of Y!G rather than (as is with your own email client) being a personal experience.  In Grouply you can bookmark, tag &amp; rate messages all of which is shareable across other users.  Whether this is of use depends on the type of group.  The archives in some groups are of little interest to anyone, however in other groups there may be definitive posts and being able to highlight these as a group experience is what Grouply is partly about.</p>
<p>AnonTroll asks why anyone would bother with this.  Well, it depends on how heavily one uses Y!G.  For some people it may be a main plank of their business &amp; marketing strategy, for example there are several very important LinkedIn groups on Y!G.  Also there are over 5000 freecycle and similar groups, many of which are incredibly active, now with the specific support for this community their are some strong reasons for over 5,000,000 active users to actively consider Grouply.</p>
<p>Technicle reports on picking up on the Facebook dream.  Well Facebook, for good or ill is helping reshape the Internet and, imo, other social networking sites may ignore them at their peril.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Weisman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1941812</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Weisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP Michael Klein (founder eGroups==&#62;Yahoo Groups)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIP Michael Klein (founder eGroups==&gt;Yahoo Groups)</p>
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		<title>By: Technicle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1939241</link>
		<dc:creator>Technicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social startups these days just want a big canvas, to share a bit of the facebook dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social startups these days just want a big canvas, to share a bit of the facebook dream.</p>
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		<title>By: TechnoQ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1938987</link>
		<dc:creator>TechnoQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just doesn't make the point?

http://technoq.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just doesn&#8217;t make the point?</p>
<p><a href="http://technoq.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://technoq.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: AnonTroll</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1938855</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonTroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anyone bother with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone bother with this?</p>
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		<title>By: NeoLuddite</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1938581</link>
		<dc:creator>NeoLuddite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't get it. These are mail lists. My email client "merges" those two and any other mail lists alonf with my other email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. These are mail lists. My email client &#8220;merges&#8221; those two and any other mail lists alonf with my other email.</p>
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		<title>By: Soap</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/24/grouply-brings-a-bit-of-facebook-to-yahoogoogle-groups/#comment-1938553</link>
		<dc:creator>Soap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YahooGroups already has "Facebookish" features attached to it. 
It's called 360.yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YahooGroups already has &#8220;Facebookish&#8221; features attached to it.<br />
It&#8217;s called 360.yahoo.com</p>
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