Comments on: Google May Knee Cap Domain Tasting

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:40:34 +0000

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By: nmw

nmw — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:30:41 +0000

Can somebody here explain to me why Google (GOOG) shares fallen so rapidly recently? Over 10% in a couple hours the other day — that is ALOT!

Sorry if you think this is off-topic, but I thought revenue models and stock market prices might be related somehow.

Thank you for your attention.

nmw

By: lisa

lisa — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:05:29 +0000

There is nothing about squeezing dollars out of obscure, long-tail queries or domain-squatting that is respectable. This “domain business” is as distasteful as other types of spam. Businesses and individuals can make money however they want. However, their activities should be labeled appropriately. If someone knowingly creates a market for spam, they are a spammer.

By: MobileKick

MobileKick — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:20:59 +0000

Meh… Google is smart for banking on parked domains. Yahoo does to, but they don’t have the ad inventory that Google does. MSN in a way does, by hijacking your browser to MSN search.

As long as people are using domains and search engines to get to destinations on the internet this business model wont change. You can call the large portfolio owners squatters or hate them for whatever reason, but respect them for seeing the future before you did.

Not that I am in favor of domain tasting, I think it completely ruins the domain business for us individuals.

However what Google will accomplish is ending domain kiting, which is somewhat simular.

By: lisa

lisa — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:26:04 +0000

Google Adsense for Domains is just plain domain parking spam. Why should our internet be filled with garbage like this? Google probably makes at least 5% of total revenue from AdSense spam like that from domain parking and blog spam, etc. They are far from “do no evil”. Let’s call Google what it is: a spammer.

By: XG

XG — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:47:23 +0000

I wish you hadn’t used the phrase “Knee Cap” as part of your title. Given all the possible different ways you could have conveyed the same meaning, I think you could have picked something with a less harsh connotation.

By: tim

tim — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:56:12 +0000

Domain tasters don’t care about the 5 days. They just want to test the traffic. If there is traffic, it will be worth it for them to keep that domain, and then put Google on it!

By: EH

EH — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:54:07 +0000

William@27: How do you account for what Andrew describes at #22? Wouldn’t a company avoid paying for a registration if it were possible to do so? Conventional wisdom says that it would be fiscally irresponsible for them to pay money where they could avoid it.

By: EH

EH — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:51:36 +0000

Brett@20:
“Domainers may monetize their temporary registrations as a way to gain some extra revenue, but that extra revenue is just a nice bonus; it’s not the primary reason anyone tastes a name.”

Got a cite for that statistic?

By: William

William — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:10:25 +0000

Why would this matter? It seems to me that if the parasites taste it and it has sufficient traffic, then they’d keep it and put Google ads on it after the five-day period.

Of course, anything that Google does to stop feeding these jerks is a step forward, so I hope there’s more to come after this.

By: Ben Strackany

Ben Strackany — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:18:01 +0000

#23: “grammar”

By: Ben Strackany

Ben Strackany — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:17:18 +0000

VelvetRaven : Yes, NetSol was/is front running domain names that people were looking up using using their WHOIS tool.

A few articles came out exposing them for domain front running, and their excuse was basically “we do domain front running so that someone else won’t do domain front running to you.”

I’m sure it’s also to “force” the consumer to buy the domain from them instead of someone else. *sigh*

By: Mikeal

Mikeal — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:42:17 +0000

I strongly approve of this move. hopefully other search engines will follow the same lead.

I hope googly wont stop and there and go all the way to removing adsense accounts for people who place adsense on blank , landing pages.

Your a notch higher up in my books today goog.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:49:53 +0000

I think techcrunch’s grammer is contagious, they say “taste”, and then you see the words taste and tasters like a dozen times

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:41:51 +0000

The real issue isn’t whether there are alternatives for the 5 day grace period. Tasters can still see if the domain gets traffic, and then keep the ones that do.

There’s one exception: domain kiters, who serially drop domains and pick them up every 5 days to avoid paying any sort of registration fee.

By: thinlight

thinlight — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:14:37 +0000

As stated by ICANN:

The five-day grace period was originally introduced to give people a fall-back in case they registered the wrong domain by mistake (a misspelling for example).

http://public.icann.org/issues/domain-name-tasting

By: Bret Fausett

Bret Fausett — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:50:16 +0000

Call me deeply skeptical. Google cutting off the ad revenue from tasting won’t change anything because it doesn’t address the underlying reason people taste domains in the first place. Few people taste domains for the incidental revenue earned during the taste period. You taste a domain name to see if it has traffic. If it has enough traffic to justify a $6.50 registration, you register it. If you’re uncertain about the traffic, you might taste the name again and again to get a larger sample size. If the name doesn’t have traffic, you let it drop. Domainers may monetize their temporary registrations as a way to gain some extra revenue, but that extra revenue is just a nice bonus; it’s not the primary reason anyone tastes a name.

— Bret

By: .rb

.rb — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:22:07 +0000

Google would be good to get out first!

- have first mover’s good will advantage

By: Humble Pie

Humble Pie — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:47:10 +0000

Wonderful news. Finally, this practice that should never have been allowed in the first place (ICANN, you blew it) is going to begin to be curtailed.

Now, if Google, Yahoo, etc., will simply eliminate all domains less than 5 days old from SERPs, in addition to their ad programs. Well, then it’s a curtain call for an industry that is even sleazier than used car sales…

By: Martin Edic

Martin Edic — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:38:52 +0000

Great headline…
Domain tasting hasn’t been proven to help with credit card issues and I think the negative aspects far outweigh any benefits. I think this is a smart move. As a domain developer I’m not a proponent of parking which I believe is going to be a short-lived tactic as the ability to create richer content sites improves. I’m with the Goog on this one.

By: John Wooton

John Wooton — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:19:31 +0000

Good points. I agree with VelvetRaven, that it is a good thing.

With domains being so cheap, though, why taste and then roll it back. It’s a concept that I just don’t understand. But I won’t get into that whole subject.

Most of the policies that Google has put in place, though, turn out for the better and though they are contributing to web spam with some of their services, you know they’re going to do what ever they can to reduce or eliminate it that spam, even if it means angering a few of their customers in the process.

By: VelvetRaven

VelvetRaven — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:47:44 +0000

The 5 day grace period exists to permit relatively easy rollback in circumstances of fraudulent credit card use (as I understand it), so it’s better for the grace period to remain (though it is a pain).

But didn’t I read somewhere (possibly even here! that Network Solutions were now (ab)using it to pre-register available domains resulting from an “Is my name available?” type lookup.

You: is my name available?
NS: It was, but we’ve pre-registered it .. hehehe.. wanna buy it?

Cheeky blightes!

Motto there - don’t use NetSol to see if a domain is available