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	<title>Comments on: Yahoo Implements OpenID; Massive Win For The Project</title>
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		<title>By: Geek News Daily Podcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geek News Daily #11 for January 17, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geek News Daily Podcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geek News Daily #11 for January 17, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yahoo Implements OpenID [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MySpace To Join OpenID, Bringing Total Enabled Accounts to Over A Half Billion</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2414640</link>
		<dc:creator>MySpace To Join OpenID, Bringing Total Enabled Accounts to Over A Half Billion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] number of OpenID-enabled accounts to over half a billion. MySpace&#8217;s 200 million user IDs join Yahoo&#8217;s 250 million or so accounts, plus accounts from a number of other large [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] number of OpenID-enabled accounts to over half a billion. MySpace&#8217;s 200 million user IDs join Yahoo&#8217;s 250 million or so accounts, plus accounts from a number of other large [...]</p>
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		<title>By: My Prediction for 2008: A Mid-Year Check-In &#171; The Real McCrea</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2409911</link>
		<dc:creator>My Prediction for 2008: A Mid-Year Check-In &#171; The Real McCrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Plaxo joined the Data Portability Working Group - January 17: Yahoo! supports OpenID, a &#8220;massive win for the project&#8220; - February 1: Google launches Brad Fitzpatrick&#8217;s Social Graph API - March 19: The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and Plaxo joined the Data Portability Working Group - January 17: Yahoo! supports OpenID, a &#8220;massive win for the project&#8220; - February 1: Google launches Brad Fitzpatrick&#8217;s Social Graph API - March 19: The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OpenID.com.ar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo implementa OpenID</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2159605</link>
		<dc:creator>OpenID.com.ar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo implementa OpenID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] En lo que se puede catalogar como la noticia más importante del año que acaba de empezar, el anterior e incluso de toda su existencia, OpenID ha obtenido una ingente cantidad de nuevos usuarios ya que Yahoo! ha decidido implementarlo en sus servicios. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] En lo que se puede catalogar como la noticia más importante del año que acaba de empezar, el anterior e incluso de toda su existencia, OpenID ha obtenido una ingente cantidad de nuevos usuarios ya que Yahoo! ha decidido implementarlo en sus servicios. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OpenID Smackdown &#171; The Real McCrea</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2049920</link>
		<dc:creator>OpenID Smackdown &#171; The Real McCrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for the Social Web. That said, much work remains to make this a mainstream technology. Yahoo! made a bold first attempt to create a consumer-friendly implementation, but that remains an unfinished project. Clickpass, a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for the Social Web. That said, much work remains to make this a mainstream technology. Yahoo! made a bold first attempt to create a consumer-friendly implementation, but that remains an unfinished project. Clickpass, a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is OpenID Being Exploited By The Big Internet Companies?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2049780</link>
		<dc:creator>Is OpenID Being Exploited By The Big Internet Companies?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the same login credentials, gained significant momentum over the last year as Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and AOL all pledged their support for the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the same login credentials, gained significant momentum over the last year as Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and AOL all pledged their support for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Raúl Vera (azul) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ¿Qué es OpenID?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2049550</link>
		<dc:creator>Raúl Vera (azul) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ¿Qué es OpenID?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Origen: Techcrunch [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Raul Vera (azul) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ¿Qué es OpenID?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2028264</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul Vera (azul) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ¿Qué es OpenID?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Origen: Techcrunch [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Makarsky &#8212; I&#8217;ll need to see some ID</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2015470</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Makarsky &#8212; I&#8217;ll need to see some ID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few fanboys than a serious challenge to the way identities are stored and managed. But in January, Yahoo! announced that all 250 million of its user accounts would become OpenID identifiers, thereby tripling the number of OpenID accounts overnight. Google quickly followed a few days later [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few fanboys than a serious challenge to the way identities are stored and managed. But in January, Yahoo! announced that all 250 million of its user accounts would become OpenID identifiers, thereby tripling the number of OpenID accounts overnight. Google quickly followed a few days later [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Design Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OpenID Gets Massive Boost From Yahoo!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-2005375</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Design Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OpenID Gets Massive Boost From Yahoo!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch has all of the details. As well as rumors of Google, IBM and VeriSign joining the fray too. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Cutts</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1994756</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Cutts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am irritated to see they are only allowing the use of Yahoo accounts as openID and not allowing me to sign up to Yahoo sites like MyBlogLog with my existing openID.

Thus missing the point of openID.
It's as if Yahoo are saying "Yes a one for all signup profile. Great idea, just as long as we are the one"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am irritated to see they are only allowing the use of Yahoo accounts as openID and not allowing me to sign up to Yahoo sites like MyBlogLog with my existing openID.</p>
<p>Thus missing the point of openID.<br />
It&#8217;s as if Yahoo are saying &#8220;Yes a one for all signup profile. Great idea, just as long as we are the one&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: An update to my my OpenID Shitlist, Hitlist and Wishlist &#124; FactoryCity</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1993770</link>
		<dc:creator>An update to my my OpenID Shitlist, Hitlist and Wishlist &#124; FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the biggest news is probably that Yahoo has come online as an OpenID 2.0 identity provider. This is old news for anyone who&#8217;s been watching the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jermo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1984815</link>
		<dc:creator>Jermo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does mobile support factor in to open id?</description>
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		<title>By: jan korbel &#187; Archiv &#187; Vítězství OpenID</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1980539</link>
		<dc:creator>jan korbel &#187; Archiv &#187; Vítězství OpenID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] před dvěma týdny ohlásilo Yahoo, že všechny jeho uživatelská ID budou fungovat také jako OpenID. A včera bylo oznámeno, že [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] před dvěma týdny ohlásilo Yahoo, že všechny jeho uživatelská ID budou fungovat také jako OpenID. A včera bylo oznámeno, že [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google, Microsoft, Verisign and IBM join OpenID</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1979647</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google, Microsoft, Verisign and IBM join OpenID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an easy way for users to use a single digital identity across the Internet. Three weeks ago Yahoo officially jumped on the bandwagon, added its roughly 250 million user IDs, tripling the existing 120 million valid OpenID accounts in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an easy way for users to use a single digital identity across the Internet. Three weeks ago Yahoo officially jumped on the bandwagon, added its roughly 250 million user IDs, tripling the existing 120 million valid OpenID accounts in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OpenID Welcomes Microsoft, Google, Verisign and IBM</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1979610</link>
		<dc:creator>OpenID Welcomes Microsoft, Google, Verisign and IBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also announced support for OpenID earlier this month, which more than tripled the number of OpenID accounts to 350 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vidoop Brings Aboard Chairman of OpenID Foundation &#124; oscarpages</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1977298</link>
		<dc:creator>Vidoop Brings Aboard Chairman of OpenID Foundation &#124; oscarpages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to participating websites. While OpenID has yet to gain widespread implementation, big players such as Yahoo have been showing much greater interest in the technology as of late.    Vidoop  Loading [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to participating websites. While OpenID has yet to gain widespread implementation, big players such as Yahoo have been showing much greater interest in the technology as of late.    Vidoop  Loading [...]</p>
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		<title>By: claimsoffice</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1960260</link>
		<dc:creator>claimsoffice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeffzilla</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1955393</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Yahoo adopts OpenID, critical mass may have been reached....&lt;/strong&gt;

No matter how cool or innovative a particular new technology is, without the critical big business adoption process, it&#8217;s usually doomed. We&#8217;re in the midst of seeing this with Joost, as they can&#8217;t sign the big content deals with majo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yahoo adopts OpenID, critical mass may have been reached&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>No matter how cool or innovative a particular new technology is, without the critical big business adoption process, it&#8217;s usually doomed. We&#8217;re in the midst of seeing this with Joost, as they can&#8217;t sign the big content deals with majo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Komentarze - Skrypty PHP Download :::.. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OpenID at Yahoo!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1952977</link>
		<dc:creator>Komentarze - Skrypty PHP Download :::.. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OpenID at Yahoo!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wheels poking people to see if we could get on board. You can see the official press release or the story on TechCrunch. But no matter where you read it, this is big [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wheels poking people to see if we could get on board. You can see the official press release or the story on TechCrunch. But no matter where you read it, this is big [...]</p>
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		<title>By: michaelgonline</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1938554</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelgonline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i look forward to trying this out.</description>
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		<title>By: Google Offers OpenID Logins Via Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1928505</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Offers OpenID Logins Via Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] after toggling the option via the draft.blogger.com admin menu. Google&#8217;s baby steps follow the announcement last week that over 250 million Yahoo users would be able to use their Yahoo logins as OpenID. Reports have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] after toggling the option via the draft.blogger.com admin menu. Google&#8217;s baby steps follow the announcement last week that over 250 million Yahoo users would be able to use their Yahoo logins as OpenID. Reports have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sandeep</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1928472</link>
		<dc:creator>sandeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 04:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hopefully google also moves for it very soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully google also moves for it very soon</p>
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		<title>By: Diseño Web Barcelona</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1928223</link>
		<dc:creator>Diseño Web Barcelona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt:  This Yahoo movement would contribute to reinforce OpenID project. We think it could be a good news!!</description>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/yahoo-implements-openid-massive-win-for-the-project/#comment-1928112</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is clear value to be an OpenID Identity Provider -(IdP) - i.e. allowing your existing users to use an URL with your own domain name to log into other 'relying parties'. In this case for Yahoo, it is enabling its users to use the Yahoo ID, in the form of xxxxxx@yahoo.com, to log onto relying party sites like LiveJournal, etc.

It's good for Yahoo because this allows Yahoo to extend its brand beyond the constellation of Yahoo sites. Everytime a Yahoo OpenID user uses the Yahoo OpenID to logo onto otherrelying party sites, the user is reminded that "I am a Yahoo User" because the user has to type xxxxxx@yahoo.com to log in. OpenID in this case creates 'stickiness' for Yahoo, and reduces user churn.

Based on the OpenID authentication protocol, Yahoo also gets to know what other web sites the user is using as the user is logging onto these sites using the Yahoo OpenID. So it will know, "Oh. This user has an account on LiveJournal, on Plaxo, on Magnolia, etc., etc. Let's figure out a  better way to target ads at him." Another plus for Yahoo.

The minus to Yahoo in this case is minimal -- a) initial engineering and product mgmt work to enable OpenID, b) on going maintenance, and c) additional authentication traffic in the form of additional bandwidth.

But the key to OpenId success is for Yahoo to become a relying party, or for ANYBODY with a large enough user base to become a relying party. Without   relying parties, the identity problem will not be solved because the user still  is stuck with multiple OpenIDs from multiple OpenID providers -- it will not be any different than what it is now.

OpenID benefits to relying parties often do not out weight the negatives for becoming a relying party. Benefits  include, among others, a) not having to  authenticate the user because the IdP like Yahoo is authenticating him for you, b) not maintaining user passwords so no customer service calls for forgotten passwords. The issue here is that it's not clear who is legally liable if the IdP screws up the authentication, or how the relying party is supposed to trust the IdP. It's a big deal for large web sites like Yahoo or Google and it will take a very long time for them to feel comfortable to trust the authentication and security practices of another IdP to rely on it. Perhaps one day, they will feel comfortable to trust some IdPs, and accept logins from them, but not others. Balkanization ensues and the consumer is  confused, and screwed, again.

So, I am waiting with bated breath to hear the pronouncements from Yahoo, AOL, Google (beyond blog comments) that "We accept third party OpenID login".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is clear value to be an OpenID Identity Provider -(IdP) - i.e. allowing your existing users to use an URL with your own domain name to log into other &#8216;relying parties&#8217;. In this case for Yahoo, it is enabling its users to use the Yahoo ID, in the form of <a href="mailto:xxxxxx@yahoo.com">xxxxxx@yahoo.com</a>, to log onto relying party sites like LiveJournal, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good for Yahoo because this allows Yahoo to extend its brand beyond the constellation of Yahoo sites. Everytime a Yahoo OpenID user uses the Yahoo OpenID to logo onto otherrelying party sites, the user is reminded that &#8220;I am a Yahoo User&#8221; because the user has to type <a href="mailto:xxxxxx@yahoo.com">xxxxxx@yahoo.com</a> to log in. OpenID in this case creates &#8217;stickiness&#8217; for Yahoo, and reduces user churn.</p>
<p>Based on the OpenID authentication protocol, Yahoo also gets to know what other web sites the user is using as the user is logging onto these sites using the Yahoo OpenID. So it will know, &#8220;Oh. This user has an account on LiveJournal, on Plaxo, on Magnolia, etc., etc. Let&#8217;s figure out a  better way to target ads at him.&#8221; Another plus for Yahoo.</p>
<p>The minus to Yahoo in this case is minimal &#8212; a) initial engineering and product mgmt work to enable OpenID, b) on going maintenance, and c) additional authentication traffic in the form of additional bandwidth.</p>
<p>But the key to OpenId success is for Yahoo to become a relying party, or for ANYBODY with a large enough user base to become a relying party. Without   relying parties, the identity problem will not be solved because the user still  is stuck with multiple OpenIDs from multiple OpenID providers &#8212; it will not be any different than what it is now.</p>
<p>OpenID benefits to relying parties often do not out weight the negatives for becoming a relying party. Benefits  include, among others, a) not having to  authenticate the user because the IdP like Yahoo is authenticating him for you, b) not maintaining user passwords so no customer service calls for forgotten passwords. The issue here is that it&#8217;s not clear who is legally liable if the IdP screws up the authentication, or how the relying party is supposed to trust the IdP. It&#8217;s a big deal for large web sites like Yahoo or Google and it will take a very long time for them to feel comfortable to trust the authentication and security practices of another IdP to rely on it. Perhaps one day, they will feel comfortable to trust some IdPs, and accept logins from them, but not others. Balkanization ensues and the consumer is  confused, and screwed, again.</p>
<p>So, I am waiting with bated breath to hear the pronouncements from Yahoo, AOL, Google (beyond blog comments) that &#8220;We accept third party OpenID login&#8221;.</p>
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