Paypal has suspended an account belonging to a Ron Paul supporters group resulting in the groups inability to pay for a recount in New Hampshire.
The Granny Warriors had fund raised the $55,600 required to be lodged with the New Hampshire Secretary of State yesterday but had their account suspended by Paypal at the last minute. The inability to access the funds resulted in a missed deadline and no GOP recount in New Hampshire.
Ron Paul support groups are urging Paul followers to contact Paypal directly to protest the decision.
We don’t have word from Paypal as to why they suspended the account, but what ever the reason we know they’ll regret it as their mail servers are inundated by a group of people who pursue their support of Paul with unprecedented zealotry.
See Ron Paul’s stance of tech issues at TechCrunch Tech President Primaries here, and our July 2007 write-up of the Ron Paul online campaign here.
(via Ron Paul War Room)
It’s all a conspiracy.
Isn’t interfering with an election a crime?
The ugly side of net dependency.
I must take a closer look at this guy. Would not want to know that there is a good reason to be caught up in all this zealotry that I am missing.
Perhaps its an appropriate time for everyone to start FOTCB!
I’ll never use PayPal again, now.
I’ve been a supporter of Ron Paul since last summer, I’m glad you are covering this.
Contact PayPal via https://investo...l/contactus.cfm and voice your grievances.
Paypal rocks!
Corporations looking out for corporations? Say it isn’t so! Canceling my paypal account!
politics is so dirty
@Mr. Stanley Russell Dudek, @Jeff : Yeah, because there’s absolutely no possible way that the group could actually have violated a PayPal policy or use guideline. It’s unthinkable that the suspension could be legitimate.
It’s interesting to see these coordinated media attacks against Dr. Paul. They seem to come in waves. Check out the NY times article:
http://politics...es/index.html#1
Where is Dr. Paul among the candidates? The strategy of these guys appears to be to smear Dr. Paul with accusations of racism, exclude him from media coverage, call his views “fringe” and call his supporters “crazy.”
It seems that many in the media have a real fight to pick with Dr. Paul. Are they scared that their vested interests may be in danger by his rising popularity?
http://www.dail....com/node/26500
@11: I might like Ron Paul, but calling him “Dr. Paul” all the time makes you zealots stand more than if you were glowing like a genetically modified cat at a black light rave.
Oh, and here’s to hoping you guys pull it off. I can’t vote in your primary in my state, but I’ll be there if he gets nominated.
PayPal now belongs to ebay.
Complain to Margaret Whitman ebay’s CEO
If you do a FOX style boycott…
Ebay has interests in:
Paypal (owns)
Shopping.com (owns)
Skype (owns)
Kijiji (owns)
Craigslist (25%)
Chinese auctioneer Tom Online (unspecified)
I’m sure there’s more
This should put a dent in her 1.4 Billion
(Forbes 400 ranking 361)
Source, Forbes 400 October 8, 2007 pages 316-317
Interesting note: Peter Thiel, Co-founder and former CEO of PayPal, has endorsed Dr. Paul for President. (via http://www.ronpaul2008.com)
@ Marta:
http://www.dail....com/node/26500 = Recount is on?
The recount DID go trough, because a hero gave them the $$ cash until they get their money back from paypal. So lets all say it together: FUCK YOU PAYPAL, IT DIDNT WORK!!!
These problems with paypal are typical.
http://www.paypalsucks.com
oh.. it’s a conspiracy alright. Especially since the former CEO of PayPal has endorsed Ron Paul. http://people.r...22/peter-thiel/
Doh!
It was just a highly motivated state agency (setting an arbitrary deadline of having funds in hand) and some poor planning. If granny warriors had let PayPal know they were about to take in $56 large in 24hrs in small donations and then yank it out the account would not have been frozen.
Now.. it does make you wonder why the state would be SO against a recount.. ? Why wait to tell them the fee would be $56k and then give them 24hrs to come up with the cash.. then not let them turn the money in 15mins past the deadline when they knew a 3rd party was at fault for the delay?
I already cancelled my paypal account for a different reason… the day after I opened it!
I opened a business account and they ran a personal credit check on me. My business is a legal entity and has it’s own credit.
Didn’t they know paypal closes your account if you have over 50k in it… This isn’t the first time this has happened.
Ron Paul is a terrible candidate. Irrelevant, but I just wanted it out there.
Look at his stances on issues other than the internet and it is quite mind-numbing.
#22 yeah I agree that dirty Ron Paul.
Just Look at his disgraceful record!
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
Derek, What is so “mind-numbing?”
The thing that is ” mind-numbing ” to me is the way we are heading and not 1 candidate ( other than Paul ) has a logical solution to things. The fact that you might think his stance is crazy when all it is is the traditional way of running a country according to the constitution…Constitution? Wait a minute, that paper is so old, right? lol
I’m glad this is out in the open and I hope it gets onto the MSM, even though that is a longshot because those corporate s.o.b’s are for favoring Clinton or CFR affiliates. Follow the money people, then you’ll see who is real and phony.
Is Google striking at this?:
http://googlech...tributions.html
> Ron Paul is a terrible candidate. Irrelevant, but I just wanted it out there.
>
> Look at his stances on issues other than the internet and it is quite
> mind-numbing.
Derick, I’ve known about Paul for the last 5 years, and was one of the (probably) thousands of people that asked him to run for the presidency in 2008.
What’s mind numbing is the vacuousness of this electorate. Take yourself for example, you list no examples, you show no reasoning, you just present an opinion as fact, with no support.
Let me tell you what the country is in for under the next 4 years regardless of who is president. We’re going to see massive foreclosures, you’re going to see banks collapse and/or be bailed out. The dollar is going to continue to deprecate, and gold and silver will still rise even at these dizzying heights. Why?
Because we’re at the end of military keynesianism. We cannot “grow” anymore by creating more military junk for “employment”, and we cannot get foreigners to finance any more expenditures.
What candidate will discuss what situation we’re actually in? None, except Paul. The less dependency we have on the Federal government when things really start to implode, the better it will be for all of us.
COuld the fact that he is a medical doctor be the reason we refer to him as Dr. Paul.
Kind of like when you leave office of President you still retain the title.
Isn’t Paypal owned by a company that is owned by FLIP ROMNEY??
In response to some of the above:
ROY, it is common practice and courtesy to call someone by their degree title, instead of MR or MRS or MS. Check out any English grammar or business letter writing formats for confirmation. The other option is to call him “Congressman Paul”. Note: Congressman Frist, who is also a medical doctor was often called “Dr. Frist”;
HUCK: As you said, Peter Thiel is a FORMER ceo of Paypal…so obviously his opinion doesnt matter anymore. Wonder where Margaret Whitman’s political sentiments lie?
The freeze is over with. The recount is paid for.
http://grannywa...pin.com/recount
They should have used Google Checkout (https://checkout.google.com), they could have saved all those fees (Google Checkout has free fees until this end of month, free for Charity always) and wouldn’t have to go through all this mess.
@ JJ:
” Wednesday, January 16, 2008
Posted by Prem Ramaswami, Product Manager
More and more citizens are making political contributions online, and the newly launched Google Checkout for Political Contributions is an easy and fast way for candidates to collect contributions from supporters and build new online communities by enabling supporters to embed Checkout contribution buttons on their websites, blogs, and social network profiles. If you happen to be running for national office, there’s more information (and a quick process to get started) here. We hope this initiative helps bring regular citizens one step closer to the political process.”
Coincidence… OR
Google Capitalizes on PayPal’s mistakes.
Either way…
George, has Websters removed your photo next to the word “ignorant” yet?
Roy, I heard they were going to replace George’s photo with yours.
Derek, Websters are desperately trying to contact you for permission to use your photo next to the term “sheeple”.
When did paypal ever regret any of their stupid decisions?
The limitation on the account associated with The Granny Warriors has been lifted, and the funds are now available for withdrawal. In situations like this, when large sums of money are being exited from an account, PayPal is legally obligated to gather more information. This protects both the account holder and those that donated funds to the account. We sincerely apologize to the Ron Paul campaign and The Granny Warriors for any inconvenience that issue may have caused.
-Michael Oldenburg
PayPal Corporate Communications
PayPal suspending an account for no real reason? I haven’t heard that one before.
PayPal’s tactics suck donkey dick.
Is the american democracy dead?
This isn’t the truth…I saw the same story someone made up on a satire page…it’s just a fake story because they think all the Ron Paul supporters thrive on conspiracy.
http://wonkette...-down-by-paypal
In Spain polling stations were chaired by citizens chosen by lot that recount the votes by hand. The votes are recounted a second time by judicial officials before declaring the result, and the ballots preserved several months.
In the USA the votes are counted by machines.
And ballots who saves?
and
Can a company decide on the claims process?
Don’s right, fight back with your pocketbook and or never go to any of the sites they own. If you had any intention of getting in touch – forget it! Reason: there are no bodies you can connect with – everything is web-based. They don’t pick up phones and I doubt that snail mail would be read. I’d say that they have it figured out – unless you opt out of buying whatever they sell.
Sounds like big brother is at the helm.
I’m not a Ron Paul supporter but think it’s just wrong for Paypal to intervene in such a way. Banks certainly do not halt wiring services even if I’m wiring money to criminals (not that I do). They’ve lost me as a customer. Plus I hear Paypal is now charging 4% to send money???
That’s a great sign: Support our lame, crazy candidate, or we’ll sabotage you! Way to sock it to democracy! And you guys wonder why nobody sane will consider him a viable candidate?
For the record, Ron Paul has voted against:
Civil rights
State’s Rights
Individual’s Rights
Revenue-Neutral Budgets (i.e., non-deficit spending)
Leaving Iraq *or* Afghanistan (he talks big, but won’t walk the walk)
Ron Paul has introduced legislation, voted, or expressed personal support for:
Turning America into a Christian nation (like Huckabee!)
Barring class actions for victims of environmental crimes
Earmarks for the bridge to nowhere (yeah, he voted for that!)
Ending securities regulation (apparently, he’s forgotten about Enron and the S&L scandals)
Ending environmental regulation (let’s become like China!!!)
Depriving citizens of the right to sue for medical malpractice
Denying women the right to abortions, even when medically necessary
Opposing interracial marriage
Opposing gay marriage
Immigration, legal or illegal
Evolution
Here comes another class-action lawsuit… As if Paypal hasn’t learned a lesson the first time. I don’t think I’ll be using Paypal for anything, ever again. I got one too many accounts shut down back in the day for the most ridiculous reasons myself. Atrocious business practices.
ahh… after reading #34, I take back some of the ‘flame-y’ and ‘trolly’ nature of my post above.
My god the alarmist people are laying it on thick today. I think I need a shovel.
The elephant’s always in the living room, looking at you right in the eye. It’s actions like these that cause certain groups of people to question — Yet, they’re labeled as “conspiracy theorists.”
This is total malarkey. Plain and simple.
My Gosh Jorge… is that girl Jorge or Boy Jorge?
Where the hell did you come up with your [NON]fact Sheet?
When did it become so absurd to uphold and obey the US Constitution?[All public Guberment people take an oath to that effect]
The bridge to nowhere is a subject I’m savvy to.
When Alaska became a state there where oodles of obligations that the federal Gov’ was supposed to do.
1. Yield control/ownership of millions of acres of land to the state that was under the fed. gov’ts control as a territory. It’s never happened!
2. Mineral and other natural resource rights/royalties where to be conveyed to the state at a ratio of 90/10[90% state 10%-fed]. The federal Gov’t never keeps it’s promises.
i think the Federal gov’t should just be out of Alaska except for what is authorized the US Constitution . That is enough land to maintain forts and arsenals for defense and for post offices.
We’ll build our own bridge and then the City of Ketchikan can grow and expand on relatively flat ground.
Currently it’s at the base of a steep Mountain at the edge of the ocean.
Everything you cite is absolutely wrong. And most everything you cite is not authorized by the Constitution for the Federal Gov’t to be involved with.
That is not to say that state and local gov’ts should not address the issues.
But then that is up to the states to decide.
Did you graduate from Kindergarten?
I’m canceling my pay pal account because of this. Punishing a company in the marketplace is the only way to ensure that they don’t do this type of thing in the future. I don’t use any of the other services they have and now will add them to the list of companies I will not use.
Duncan, whats with the “tin foil hat alert”?
Are you looking to get hired on at Fox?
lousy foreigner!
I don’t believe a recount was applied for in Ron Paul’s name. Is this the recount which Albert Howard requested? If so, why is it being linked to Ron Paul?
http://mail.mom...l/Hitlary08.GIF
I just recently found out that there is a connection between ebay and Mitt Romney. The CEO used to work for Romney’s venture capital firm. This all stinks to high hell. Please spread the word. The list of biased, freedom hating companies just keeps getting longer and longer.
http://www.bost...exec_donat.html