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	<title>Comments on: Freebase Takes $42 Million</title>
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		<title>By: Design Shrine &#124; Semantic Web Mashups and Freebase &#124; Interior, Architecture and Web Design Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2048793</link>
		<dc:creator>Design Shrine &#124; Semantic Web Mashups and Freebase &#124; Interior, Architecture and Web Design Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was founded by Danny Hillis and Robert Cook from Applied Minds, and with $42 million dollars is well funded. Tim O&#8217;Reilly earlier wrote that Freebase Will Prove Addictive:  What Metaweb [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was founded by Danny Hillis and Robert Cook from Applied Minds, and with $42 million dollars is well funded. Tim O&#8217;Reilly earlier wrote that Freebase Will Prove Addictive:  What Metaweb [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Semantic Hacker One-Million Dollar Challenge : Online media news summary of todays online advertising news</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-2047124</link>
		<dc:creator>The Semantic Hacker One-Million Dollar Challenge : Online media news summary of todays online advertising news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] startups and projects are hot right now. (See Radar Networks, Freebase, Blue Organizer, Hakia, even Yahoo). But what do you do if you are a little-known technology [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] startups and projects are hot right now. (See Radar Networks, Freebase, Blue Organizer, Hakia, even Yahoo). But what do you do if you are a little-known technology [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mike soron . com &#8212; LINKS 00004</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike soron . com &#8212; LINKS 00004</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Future overlord Freebase takes in $42 million. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RR</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1927096</link>
		<dc:creator>RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To dan (14)
Believe it or not, solving climate change problems can be done quicker with flexible and smart data exchange protocols.
As for American Idol, well ... can&#039;t argue with that! That&#039;s much more entertaining :)  

Cheers

Love and Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To dan (14)<br />
Believe it or not, solving climate change problems can be done quicker with flexible and smart data exchange protocols.<br />
As for American Idol, well &#8230; can&#8217;t argue with that! That&#8217;s much more entertaining <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Love and Peace</p>
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		<title>By: carmen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1926540</link>
		<dc:creator>carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i brought up &quot;centralized&quot; when Freebase was announced and Danny and Robert both said they considered a data web a &#039;hard problem&#039; and the answer for now is &#039;to centralize things&#039;. hardcore parallel silicon and operating systems used to be a walk in the park for these guys and now they consider a solved problem a hard problem:

just click an icon, all sorts of distributed data-web machinations kick into gear, aggregating Atom feeds of new torrents, finding peers for these over DHT,  sharding the necessary parts, even generating rating concensus from multiple 3rd party providers like Digg, rottentomatoes and IMDB. on a more directly-related topic last i checked it was some college students in their spare time that did the work that lets me SPARQL wikipedia, not Metaweb. and i can install the free/open-source Virtuoso or Sesame and run a Freebase on my machine.. or EC2 cloud


im not sure what their monetization/exit-plan of attack is. they could play catch-up in the neo-DB a la carte space if they want to protect their source code - simpleDB, force.com, dabbleDB etc. or they could try to become the next mySQL and give their database for free. Oracle already has RDF/graph features in their latest versions so an acquisition doenst look too likely there other than customer attrition reasons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i brought up &#8220;centralized&#8221; when Freebase was announced and Danny and Robert both said they considered a data web a &#8216;hard problem&#8217; and the answer for now is &#8216;to centralize things&#8217;. hardcore parallel silicon and operating systems used to be a walk in the park for these guys and now they consider a solved problem a hard problem:</p>
<p>just click an icon, all sorts of distributed data-web machinations kick into gear, aggregating Atom feeds of new torrents, finding peers for these over DHT,  sharding the necessary parts, even generating rating concensus from multiple 3rd party providers like Digg, rottentomatoes and IMDB. on a more directly-related topic last i checked it was some college students in their spare time that did the work that lets me SPARQL wikipedia, not Metaweb. and i can install the free/open-source Virtuoso or Sesame and run a Freebase on my machine.. or EC2 cloud</p>
<p>im not sure what their monetization/exit-plan of attack is. they could play catch-up in the neo-DB a la carte space if they want to protect their source code &#8211; simpleDB, force.com, dabbleDB etc. or they could try to become the next mySQL and give their database for free. Oracle already has RDF/graph features in their latest versions so an acquisition doenst look too likely there other than customer attrition reasons</p>
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		<title>By: Ashy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1926468</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dyde, as I said VCs are thirsty for fame now! They are looking for a vehicle like crazy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dyde, as I said VCs are thirsty for fame now! They are looking for a vehicle like crazy <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1925519</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hurray for schemas, and not just a bunch of text with links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hurray for schemas, and not just a bunch of text with links.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Crash</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1925393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Crash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$57 million?...

I wonder if they&#039;ll spend it all freebasing...
Thats a damn lot of the white stuff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$57 million?&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder if they&#8217;ll spend it all freebasing&#8230;<br />
Thats a damn lot of the white stuff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1925104</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rr It will be interesting to see which of these two approaches will eventually prevail

Dude, you should be happy the new season of American Idol has started because the SPARQL/Freebase throw-down won&#039;t be interesting at all. I can tell you right now neither will win. Both are flawed approaches to solving an non-existent problem. They merely show how really smart people sometimes act like idiots.

Now if all these geniuses were working on solving global climate change problems, maybe polar bears wouldn&#039;t be drowning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rr It will be interesting to see which of these two approaches will eventually prevail</p>
<p>Dude, you should be happy the new season of American Idol has started because the SPARQL/Freebase throw-down won&#8217;t be interesting at all. I can tell you right now neither will win. Both are flawed approaches to solving an non-existent problem. They merely show how really smart people sometimes act like idiots.</p>
<p>Now if all these geniuses were working on solving global climate change problems, maybe polar bears wouldn&#8217;t be drowning.</p>
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		<title>By: RR</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924868</link>
		<dc:creator>RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOTE: Two things happened this week in the Web Sematics world, each reflecting the opposite approach to the other.  SPARQL (with RDF) became a W3C standard on one hand and FreeBase raised 57M$. The alarming reality is that these two approaches to Web Semantics are in plain conflict with each other. The SPARQL protocol promotes data linking between DISTRIBUTED datasets, while FreeBase promotes loading all the data in the world onto their CENTRALIZED database, with centralized data schemas etc.. 
It will be interesting to see which of these two approaches will eventually prevail. One thing is for sure, yet again the IT world introduces conflicting technologies, on the same time, to solve the same general issues; too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOTE: Two things happened this week in the Web Sematics world, each reflecting the opposite approach to the other.  SPARQL (with RDF) became a W3C standard on one hand and FreeBase raised 57M$. The alarming reality is that these two approaches to Web Semantics are in plain conflict with each other. The SPARQL protocol promotes data linking between DISTRIBUTED datasets, while FreeBase promotes loading all the data in the world onto their CENTRALIZED database, with centralized data schemas etc..<br />
It will be interesting to see which of these two approaches will eventually prevail. One thing is for sure, yet again the IT world introduces conflicting technologies, on the same time, to solve the same general issues; too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924780</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s a lot of cash! How did they get Goldman so crazy to pour it in the crazy idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s a lot of cash! How did they get Goldman so crazy to pour it in the crazy idea?</p>
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		<title>By: gyula csocsan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924618</link>
		<dc:creator>gyula csocsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>57 million must be enough to test this site on the moon (:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>57 million must be enough to test this site on the moon (:</p>
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		<title>By: Dyde</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924542</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn they&#039;re website looks like a domain spam placeholder. And Goldman paid $50mln for that? On top of that, looks like they reinvented SQL and HTML, why not use existing techs??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn they&#8217;re website looks like a domain spam placeholder. And Goldman paid $50mln for that? On top of that, looks like they reinvented SQL and HTML, why not use existing techs??</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Madsen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924371</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Madsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They do have the possibility of doing something similar to Swivel, and maybe better. The problem I&#039;ve seen with sites like Swivel or ManyEyes is in the data arena. People on those sites are polluting the data, constantly excerpting and reexcerpting data, making it kind of a mess. Freebase may offer better data controls, and could extend themselves into things on top of the data platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do have the possibility of doing something similar to Swivel, and maybe better. The problem I&#8217;ve seen with sites like Swivel or ManyEyes is in the data arena. People on those sites are polluting the data, constantly excerpting and reexcerpting data, making it kind of a mess. Freebase may offer better data controls, and could extend themselves into things on top of the data platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Trace</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924316</link>
		<dc:creator>Trace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Pryor called and he wants his domain name back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Pryor called and he wants his domain name back!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924271</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia clone, said that, the only thing its got better than wikipedia is its web design. The $42M funding also shows what some VCs want: they want to be famous like Jimmy Wales..... they want fame... but unfortunately thats not gonna come their way. Freebase will be in deadpool once the funding capital is burned up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia clone, said that, the only thing its got better than wikipedia is its web design. The $42M funding also shows what some VCs want: they want to be famous like Jimmy Wales&#8230;.. they want fame&#8230; but unfortunately thats not gonna come their way. Freebase will be in deadpool once the funding capital is burned up.</p>
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		<title>By: bbbase</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924232</link>
		<dc:creator>bbbase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>name and model are much like googlebase, obviously... is googlebase successful?..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>name and model are much like googlebase, obviously&#8230; is googlebase successful?..</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924157</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is extremely interesting. Their ambitions are enormous and their project is of great potential value to the web (semantic, 3.0, 2.7 or otherwise). However, as the first commenters point out, there is very little demonstrable progress to date.

The revenue model will be there if they can control the data in the future. But again, I believe this model if far from being a sure thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is extremely interesting. Their ambitions are enormous and their project is of great potential value to the web (semantic, 3.0, 2.7 or otherwise). However, as the first commenters point out, there is very little demonstrable progress to date.</p>
<p>The revenue model will be there if they can control the data in the future. But again, I believe this model if far from being a sure thing.</p>
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		<title>By: magnusdopus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924119</link>
		<dc:creator>magnusdopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That site is only as interesting as the data it contains, which is not very interesting.  However with $57 million, they should be able to clean it up.  I can&#039;t really see there being a viable business model though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That site is only as interesting as the data it contains, which is not very interesting.  However with $57 million, they should be able to clean it up.  I can&#8217;t really see there being a viable business model though.</p>
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		<title>By: Macaroni Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924099</link>
		<dc:creator>Macaroni Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea really. 

Whats in a name anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea really. </p>
<p>Whats in a name anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924095</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freebase?

Who came up with that name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freebase?</p>
<p>Who came up with that name?</p>
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		<title>By: Technicle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/16/freebase-takes-42-million/comment-page-1/#comment-1924072</link>
		<dc:creator>Technicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not much done for the level of money they&#039;ve secured to date...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much done for the level of money they&#8217;ve secured to date&#8230;</p>
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