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		<title>By: Google&#8217;s one-way mirror &#171; Contextual Information Search Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google&#8217;s one-way mirror &#171; Contextual Information Search Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Google&#8217;s one-way mirror: a business model for privacy invasion and abuse by Daniël Verhoeven [Google Watch series, episode 02] &#171; De Voorstad groeit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google&#8217;s one-way mirror: a business model for privacy invasion and abuse by Daniël Verhoeven [Google Watch series, episode 02] &#171; De Voorstad groeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] data: An interview with Google A Race to the Bottom - Privacy Ranking of Internet Service Companies Proximic Signs Deals With Yahoo and eBay To Turn Product Listings Into Contextual Ads; Taking on AdS... When you watch these ads, the ads check you out Orwell&#8217;s 1984 revisited: Uberveillance Google [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google&#8217;s one-way mirror: a business model for privacy invasion by Daniël Verhoeven [Google Watch series, episode 02] &#171; remixing the web for social change</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-2659104</link>
		<dc:creator>Google&#8217;s one-way mirror: a business model for privacy invasion by Daniël Verhoeven [Google Watch series, episode 02] &#171; remixing the web for social change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Publicitate contextuală &#124; Internet Broker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-2626014</link>
		<dc:creator>Publicitate contextuală &#124; Internet Broker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Proximic Signs Deals With Yahoo and eBay To Turn Product Listings Into Contextual Ads; Taking on AdS...&#8220;. Retrieved on 2008-01-15. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alfabetic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aviso en la red de Google, ahora con el doble de cookies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfabetic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aviso en la red de Google, ahora con el doble de cookies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] parte de la integración continua de su adquisición de Doubleclick (ayer se vendió Proximic), Google colocará cookies adicionales DoubleClick en los buscadores de todos los que visitan el [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Meg Whitman’s Exit Interview &#124; tips tech blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg Whitman’s Exit Interview &#124; tips tech blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Donahoe: You could say we are already in the advertising game with millions of listings a day and expanding that with other advertising on eBay and off. We have our Yahoo and Google partnerships and we&#8217;ll continue to find ways to get our listings out there. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Donahoe: You could say we are already in the advertising game with millions of listings a day and expanding that with other advertising on eBay and off. We have our Yahoo and Google partnerships and we&#8217;ll continue to find ways to get our listings out there. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sebnem</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1937121</link>
		<dc:creator>sebnem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert:  It seems that there is more heart blood to it than a straightforward implementation of the vector model - which would work on &quot;terms&quot;, i.e. keywords, which by the explanation is not what they use. 

They retrieve a &quot;pattern of letters&quot; which is *probably* compiled into a BIT &quot;vector&quot;.... More on the speculatory part: 

*proximity* search within patterns + the guy is a former *computer chess* hero  -  which leaves me with a hunch that they have a genious algorithm inspired by pattern matching of moves on a chess board... 

In any case people who spice up the business as ususal are just admirable! 

Rock on :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert:  It seems that there is more heart blood to it than a straightforward implementation of the vector model &#8211; which would work on &#8220;terms&#8221;, i.e. keywords, which by the explanation is not what they use. </p>
<p>They retrieve a &#8220;pattern of letters&#8221; which is *probably* compiled into a BIT &#8220;vector&#8221;&#8230;. More on the speculatory part: </p>
<p>*proximity* search within patterns + the guy is a former *computer chess* hero  &#8211;  which leaves me with a hunch that they have a genious algorithm inspired by pattern matching of moves on a chess board&#8230; </p>
<p>In any case people who spice up the business as ususal are just admirable! </p>
<p>Rock on <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1927807</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik - You really need to correct your post.  As the CEO of Proximic points out, there are plenty of other people syndicating Shopping.com and Yahoo Shopping listings.  This line: &quot;This is the first time that either Yahoo or eBay has syndicated these listings.&quot; is false.  You can sign up for Shopping.com or Yahoo! Shopping&#039;s developer program today and get listings up by next week.   

As for the targeting, we&#039;ll have to wait and see.  Most of the shopping engine syndication programs allow you to target to some extent.  Look at this search on Mahalo.  I searched for iphone and got product ads from Shopzilla which seem pretty targeted to me: http://www.calacanis.com/2007/12/21/ads-as-content-or-testing-google-and-shopzilla/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik &#8211; You really need to correct your post.  As the CEO of Proximic points out, there are plenty of other people syndicating Shopping.com and Yahoo Shopping listings.  This line: &#8220;This is the first time that either Yahoo or eBay has syndicated these listings.&#8221; is false.  You can sign up for Shopping.com or Yahoo! Shopping&#8217;s developer program today and get listings up by next week.   </p>
<p>As for the targeting, we&#8217;ll have to wait and see.  Most of the shopping engine syndication programs allow you to target to some extent.  Look at this search on Mahalo.  I searched for iphone and got product ads from Shopzilla which seem pretty targeted to me: <a href="http://www.calacanis.com/2007/12/21/ads-as-content-or-testing-google-and-shopzilla/#comments" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.calacanis.com/2007/12/21/ads-as-content-or-testing-google-and-shopzilla/#comments'>http://www.cala...zilla/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: w2i</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1927783</link>
		<dc:creator>w2i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Proximic is indexing each page, as I read above, that becomes part of its network then they would also need 600,000 servers to get any closer to what Google is today (check the link above for more info about the Google’s computation expenditures). 

On the other side, if they want to spread around Web, the way Google did, they have to pay web publishers serious money, lots of money, before even starting to think on competing with Google AdSense. Let’s put it that way: I see no way for Proximic to reach the payout Google achieved - $3.5B paid to web publishers in the first 3 quarters of 2007...

So, taking on AdSense claims and titles are, if anything, too boostful and not serious in my view, which is more harmful to the image of the company rather than positive PR… 

My 2 cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Proximic is indexing each page, as I read above, that becomes part of its network then they would also need 600,000 servers to get any closer to what Google is today (check the link above for more info about the Google’s computation expenditures). </p>
<p>On the other side, if they want to spread around Web, the way Google did, they have to pay web publishers serious money, lots of money, before even starting to think on competing with Google AdSense. Let’s put it that way: I see no way for Proximic to reach the payout Google achieved &#8211; $3.5B paid to web publishers in the first 3 quarters of 2007&#8230;</p>
<p>So, taking on AdSense claims and titles are, if anything, too boostful and not serious in my view, which is more harmful to the image of the company rather than positive PR… </p>
<p>My 2 cents</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Pieper</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1925286</link>
		<dc:creator>Philipp Pieper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick,

Thank you for the coverage. Just to to clarify with regards to the deal with Shopping.com.

(1) Our relationship is with Shopping.com, not eBay, the parent company.

(2) As for the syndication with Shopping.com, the infrastructure we collaborate on is not a unique service to us. The main difference, however, is that we bring contextual relevancy to Shopping.com&#039;s catalog data.  When including Shopping.com in our mentioning to be syndicating its catalog for the first time, technically that was incorrect.

Best
Philipp

Philipp  Pieper
- CEO Proximic -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick,</p>
<p>Thank you for the coverage. Just to to clarify with regards to the deal with Shopping.com.</p>
<p>(1) Our relationship is with Shopping.com, not eBay, the parent company.</p>
<p>(2) As for the syndication with Shopping.com, the infrastructure we collaborate on is not a unique service to us. The main difference, however, is that we bring contextual relevancy to Shopping.com&#8217;s catalog data.  When including Shopping.com in our mentioning to be syndicating its catalog for the first time, technically that was incorrect.</p>
<p>Best<br />
Philipp</p>
<p>Philipp  Pieper<br />
- CEO Proximic -</p>
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		<title>By: Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1924010</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The overwhelming leader in the contextual space is Google. The #2 player is actually AOL/Quigo, not Yahoo. Can anyone name a major web publisher that exclusively uses Yahoo other than Yahoo.com? Anywho --- this idea is being tried by Turn and Tumri. I&#039;m very skeptical and believe Erick wrote about this because it&#039;s something to write about and not based on merit. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overwhelming leader in the contextual space is Google. The #2 player is actually AOL/Quigo, not Yahoo. Can anyone name a major web publisher that exclusively uses Yahoo other than Yahoo.com? Anywho &#8212; this idea is being tried by Turn and Tumri. I&#8217;m very skeptical and believe Erick wrote about this because it&#8217;s something to write about and not based on merit. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: mathew johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1923965</link>
		<dc:creator>mathew johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come no one mentioned Amazon Omakaze ad units yet?

This is exactly the same idea - and it&#039;s a good idea in theory - but it&#039;s also fairly well established that it&#039;s not a killer contextual ad unit by any means - in short it&#039;s not worth running in lieu of Adsense.

Nothing to see here . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come no one mentioned Amazon Omakaze ad units yet?</p>
<p>This is exactly the same idea &#8211; and it&#8217;s a good idea in theory &#8211; but it&#8217;s also fairly well established that it&#8217;s not a killer contextual ad unit by any means &#8211; in short it&#8217;s not worth running in lieu of Adsense.</p>
<p>Nothing to see here . . .</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1923668</link>
		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WIFM?

I don&#039;t see anywhere to sign up so I get paid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WIFM?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anywhere to sign up so I get paid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SearchQuant</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1923650</link>
		<dc:creator>SearchQuant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Pascal said. Taking a syndicated Shopping.com feed is the starting point for many, many widget and AdSense-alternative firms that&#039;re already out there. 

Chitika sounded very similar back in 2005, and the hype others created around it (in terms of CTR mainly) led to lots of AdSense publishers trying it out, only to be severely disappointed with down-to-earth CTR&#039;s and much lower effective CPC&#039;s than they thought they&#039;d have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Pascal said. Taking a syndicated Shopping.com feed is the starting point for many, many widget and AdSense-alternative firms that&#8217;re already out there. </p>
<p>Chitika sounded very similar back in 2005, and the hype others created around it (in terms of CTR mainly) led to lots of AdSense publishers trying it out, only to be severely disappointed with down-to-earth CTR&#8217;s and much lower effective CPC&#8217;s than they thought they&#8217;d have.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Edic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1923627</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Edic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No revenue model for publishers, examples on site do not show the product in action (don&#039;t appear to show product at all!), completely confusing messaging and vague technology.
Vaporware- I expect a little more due diligence from Techcrunch.

They don&#039;t deserve coverage until it is possible to actually monetize the service, otherwise what&#039;s the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No revenue model for publishers, examples on site do not show the product in action (don&#8217;t appear to show product at all!), completely confusing messaging and vague technology.<br />
Vaporware- I expect a little more due diligence from Techcrunch.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t deserve coverage until it is possible to actually monetize the service, otherwise what&#8217;s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1923568</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly the product has the same idea as Sphere it is just tackling a different market.  However will readers download the Firefox Add-on? Which will be a huge turn off.

Because of the fact that you are downloading a widget that will offer ads..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly the product has the same idea as Sphere it is just tackling a different market.  However will readers download the Firefox Add-on? Which will be a huge turn off.</p>
<p>Because of the fact that you are downloading a widget that will offer ads..</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Rossini</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1923199</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Rossini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being an eBay, yahoo shopping or shopping.com partner boils down to signing a direct contract or via Commission Junction with exactly the same inventory. 

I don’t understand why Erick writes “first time” or “sign deal”.  On another note, CPA is a source of financial loss for companies such as chitika, widgetbuck, auctionads etc…because the CPA must be transformed into CPC to pay the publishers with disproportionate ratios, to the disadvantage of these companies.

Its bullshit, and hype for nothing. 10 companies already offer the same service in CPA and in contextual mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being an eBay, yahoo shopping or shopping.com partner boils down to signing a direct contract or via Commission Junction with exactly the same inventory. </p>
<p>I don’t understand why Erick writes “first time” or “sign deal”.  On another note, CPA is a source of financial loss for companies such as chitika, widgetbuck, auctionads etc…because the CPA must be transformed into CPC to pay the publishers with disproportionate ratios, to the disadvantage of these companies.</p>
<p>Its bullshit, and hype for nothing. 10 companies already offer the same service in CPA and in contextual mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Yakov</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1923194</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think his words is just an excuse for what they use. as well, what if those product listing providers boot them tomorrow to cut a middleman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think his words is just an excuse for what they use. as well, what if those product listing providers boot them tomorrow to cut a middleman?</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Altamirano &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Proximic: Making Ad&#124;Sense</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1922954</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Altamirano &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Proximic: Making Ad&#124;Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that it might actually open a new advertising channel for content or contextual search. There is an interesting post at techcrunch where there is a good explanation about the technology [somewhat hyped [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that it might actually open a new advertising channel for content or contextual search. There is an interesting post at techcrunch where there is a good explanation about the technology [somewhat hyped [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1922937</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The matching quality absolutely rocks! 
The publisher program seems to start soon - that&#039;s what they say on their web site. I hope they really mean &quot;soon&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The matching quality absolutely rocks!<br />
The publisher program seems to start soon &#8211; that&#8217;s what they say on their web site. I hope they really mean &#8220;soon&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AuctionAds Redux</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1922867</link>
		<dc:creator>AuctionAds Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like auctionads + real time information retrieval. 

I tried to signup for their widget but they appear to want me to provide them with free advertising?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like auctionads + real time information retrieval. </p>
<p>I tried to signup for their widget but they appear to want me to provide them with free advertising?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1922816</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the contextual method they&#039;re using is the same vector space model[1] that&#039;s been used for information retrieval for about 40 years?

Sweet.

This isn&#039;t to say that the VSM isn&#039;t useful or valid for this purpose (it produces fine results in many cases), but hyping technology based on it seems sort of bogus, although possibly it&#039;s TC&#039;s take on it making it come across that way.

The company may do fine regardless, anyway. There are plenty of advertising firms doing fine without Google&#039;s expertise at IR concerns.

1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_space_model</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the contextual method they&#8217;re using is the same vector space model[1] that&#8217;s been used for information retrieval for about 40 years?</p>
<p>Sweet.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say that the VSM isn&#8217;t useful or valid for this purpose (it produces fine results in many cases), but hyping technology based on it seems sort of bogus, although possibly it&#8217;s TC&#8217;s take on it making it come across that way.</p>
<p>The company may do fine regardless, anyway. There are plenty of advertising firms doing fine without Google&#8217;s expertise at IR concerns.</p>
<p>1: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_space_model" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_space_model'>http://en.wikip...tor_space_model</a></p>
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		<title>By: Technology Slice</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1922806</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology Slice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully it does better than Yahoo&#039;s publisher network.</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1922799</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an insanely good idea.</description>
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		<title>By: Vector was a sports car</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/15/proximic-signs-deals-with-yahoo-and-ebay-to-turn-product-listings-into-contextual-ads-taking-on-adsense/comment-page-1/#comment-1922798</link>
		<dc:creator>Vector was a sports car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their website (from a publisher point of view) has to be one of the most confusing around.

For one, the examples page (screenshots) on how the widget works make no sense whatsoever, at least to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their website (from a publisher point of view) has to be one of the most confusing around.</p>
<p>For one, the examples page (screenshots) on how the widget works make no sense whatsoever, at least to me.</p>
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