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		<title>By: Ruby on Rails Outsourcing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby on Rails Outsourcing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruby on Rails an object oriented programming language. Ruby web framework user for developing database-backed web application according to the control pattern.  With help of Ruby on Rails CMS it is easy to focused to target design sites.</description>
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		<title>By: PuneTech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pune&#8217;s Satish Talim wins &#8220;Ruby&#8217;s Top Teacher in 2008&#8243; award</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/11/benchmark-bets-on-ruby-on-rails-with-35-million-investment-in-engine-yard/comment-page-2/#comment-2564595</link>
		<dc:creator>PuneTech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pune&#8217;s Satish Talim wins &#8220;Ruby&#8217;s Top Teacher in 2008&#8243; award</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Benchmark Bets on Ruby on Rails With $3.5 Million Investment in Engine Yard [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>html kodları</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salut. emegine saglık siten super olmus</description>
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		<title>By: jiminy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jiminy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comparing ruby/rails to java is ludicrous.

I would be choosing PHP/my own frame work or .NET versus rails... not &#039;java&#039;. That&#039;s clueless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comparing ruby/rails to java is ludicrous.</p>
<p>I would be choosing PHP/my own frame work or .NET versus rails&#8230; not &#8216;java&#8217;. That&#8217;s clueless.</p>
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		<title>By: Terbaik.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terbaik.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see Engine Yard, a company with a more hands-on approach to RoR [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see Engine Yard, a company with a more hands-on approach to RoR [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby on Rails Startup Heroku Gets $3 Million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see Engine Yard, a company with a more hands-on approach to RoR hosting.   CrunchBase Information   Heroku  Information provided by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: No Joke &#171; BarCampKC - May 9-10 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Joke &#171; BarCampKC - May 9-10 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] developer Tom&#8217;s also a talented entrepreneur who in January helped secure EngineYard&#8217;s 3.5 million in funding from Benchmark Capital. He&#8217;s also co-author of O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s Capistrano and the Rails Application [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] developer Tom&#8217;s also a talented entrepreneur who in January helped secure EngineYard&#8217;s 3.5 million in funding from Benchmark Capital. He&#8217;s also co-author of O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s Capistrano and the Rails Application [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Heroku Lifts Ruby on Rails Development into the Cloud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heroku Lifts Ruby on Rails Development into the Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another company working to provide better RoR hosting, check out Engine Yard (discussed here) which provides a more hands-on approach.   CrunchBase Information   Heroku  Engine Yard  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: E-sniper &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Heroku Lifts Ruby on Rails Development into the Cloud</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/11/benchmark-bets-on-ruby-on-rails-with-35-million-investment-in-engine-yard/comment-page-2/#comment-1981275</link>
		<dc:creator>E-sniper &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Heroku Lifts Ruby on Rails Development into the Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another company working to provide better RoR hosting, check out Engine Yard (discussed here) which provides a more hands-on approach.    Engine Yard  Loading information about Engine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Engine Yard recibe $3.5 millones de financiación - Javier Vidal Postigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Engine Yard recibe $3.5 millones de financiación - Javier Vidal Postigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recoge la noticia e incluso lanza la pregunta de si será Ruby on Rails el nuevo [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;sky (January 11th, 2008 at 8:13 pm )
I use whatever technologies required. After all, learning Ruby, RoR,
Java, C++ takes less time than learning how to solve Maxwell’s
wave equation which is, by the way, far more interesting.
Computing is only a tool to solove problems.&quot;

There you go...
at last somebody said it :)

Come on... Its just a &quot;language&quot;.
if you are REALLY a System Engineer then learning a &quot;language&quot; could take you about... what? a week?

Regards,
Diego

PS: sorry my native tongue is Spanish, sorry for my grammar, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;sky (January 11th, 2008 at 8:13 pm )<br />
I use whatever technologies required. After all, learning Ruby, RoR,<br />
Java, C++ takes less time than learning how to solve Maxwell’s<br />
wave equation which is, by the way, far more interesting.<br />
Computing is only a tool to solove problems.&#8221;</p>
<p>There you go&#8230;<br />
at last somebody said it <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Come on&#8230; Its just a &#8220;language&#8221;.<br />
if you are REALLY a System Engineer then learning a &#8220;language&#8221; could take you about&#8230; what? a week?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Diego</p>
<p>PS: sorry my native tongue is Spanish, sorry for my grammar, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sympact Technologies</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/11/benchmark-bets-on-ruby-on-rails-with-35-million-investment-in-engine-yard/comment-page-2/#comment-1972821</link>
		<dc:creator>Sympact Technologies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Engine Yard - Merb, Rubinius, $3.5 Million, Oh My!...&lt;/strong&gt;

We have now been with Engine Yard for over two months, and the experience has been nothing short of amazing. At Rackspace for the same money we were spending we had a single point of failure for all our apps,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Engine Yard &#8211; Merb, Rubinius, $3.5 Million, Oh My!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>We have now been with Engine Yard for over two months, and the experience has been nothing short of amazing. At Rackspace for the same money we were spending we had a single point of failure for all our apps,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some interesting points on the Ruby-Inside blog http://www.rubyinside.com/rails-web-host-engine-yard-now-35-million-richer-694.htm From a commenter:

&quot;EY on the other hand is making a very calculated move to tie the future of Ruby to their products so they can rent you their $400 p/h Ruby architects (not kidding).&quot;

Didn&#039;t Benchmark also invest in MySQL, Jboss. It is the same deal. This is not about hosting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some interesting points on the Ruby-Inside blog <a href="http://www.rubyinside.com/rails-web-host-engine-yard-now-35-million-richer-694.htm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.rubyinside.com/rails-web-host-engine-yard-now-35-million-richer-694.htm'>http://www.ruby...-richer-694.htm</a> From a commenter:</p>
<p>&#8220;EY on the other hand is making a very calculated move to tie the future of Ruby to their products so they can rent you their $400 p/h Ruby architects (not kidding).&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Benchmark also invest in MySQL, Jboss. It is the same deal. This is not about hosting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nima Negahban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nima Negahban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ted

Agreed , I believe they also have shown client side php using silverlight now as well. Although I&#039;ve never tried it myself. 

.NET has a very bright future , and the JVM is gaining steam with Groovy, jruby and Scala as of late.

It&#039;s a fun time to experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ted</p>
<p>Agreed , I believe they also have shown client side php using silverlight now as well. Although I&#8217;ve never tried it myself. </p>
<p>.NET has a very bright future , and the JVM is gaining steam with Groovy, jruby and Scala as of late.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fun time to experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nima,

Oh and you can do pretty much many languages in .NET as well (^_^).

IronRuby
IronPython
F#
C#
VB.NET
etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nima,</p>
<p>Oh and you can do pretty much many languages in .NET as well (^_^).</p>
<p>IronRuby<br />
IronPython<br />
F#<br />
C#<br />
VB.NET<br />
etc</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nima,

I&#039;ve used both RoR and .NET. For me, personally, I find it .NET to be more productive than RoR. Of course it&#039;s not 100% pure .NET but more like Visual Studio and .NET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nima,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used both RoR and .NET. For me, personally, I find it .NET to be more productive than RoR. Of course it&#8217;s not 100% pure .NET but more like Visual Studio and .NET.</p>
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		<title>By: Parag kantharia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parag kantharia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

The Hosting and deployment scenerio is going to change a lot after the implementation of Windows server 2008 along with IIS-7 in February 2008.

The Zend and MS partership for an Apache alternate and fast CGI implementation would create a revolution.

The blog below was a real opener for me.
http://ironruby.blogspot.com/2008/01/classic-ruby-losing-against-ironruby.html

This clearly focus more on what i mentioned above plus the advantages of Ironruby over Ruby and Ruby on rails.

WoW! interesting things are taking shape.

Parag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>The Hosting and deployment scenerio is going to change a lot after the implementation of Windows server 2008 along with IIS-7 in February 2008.</p>
<p>The Zend and MS partership for an Apache alternate and fast CGI implementation would create a revolution.</p>
<p>The blog below was a real opener for me.<br />
<a href="http://ironruby.blogspot.com/2008/01/classic-ruby-losing-against-ironruby.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://ironruby.blogspot.com/2008/01/classic-ruby-losing-against-ironruby.html'>http://ironruby...t-ironruby.html</a></p>
<p>This clearly focus more on what i mentioned above plus the advantages of Ironruby over Ruby and Ruby on rails.</p>
<p>WoW! interesting things are taking shape.</p>
<p>Parag</p>
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		<title>By: sky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/11/benchmark-bets-on-ruby-on-rails-with-35-million-investment-in-engine-yard/comment-page-2/#comment-1916427</link>
		<dc:creator>sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use whatever technologies required. After all, learning Ruby, RoR,
Java, C++ takes less time than learning how to solve Maxwell&#039;s
wave equation which is, by the way, far more interesting.

Computing is only a tool to solove problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use whatever technologies required. After all, learning Ruby, RoR,<br />
Java, C++ takes less time than learning how to solve Maxwell&#8217;s<br />
wave equation which is, by the way, far more interesting.</p>
<p>Computing is only a tool to solove problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Nima Negahban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nima Negahban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks dudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks dudes.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin j</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why I read this whole flame war is beyond me. For giggles I googled nima and saw his linked in, sam you&#039;re an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why I read this whole flame war is beyond me. For giggles I googled nima and saw his linked in, sam you&#8217;re an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Ringwald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Ringwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is heated! 

@sam: looks like nima has done a load of cool things. what have you done?</description>
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<p>@sam: looks like nima has done a load of cool things. what have you done?</p>
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		<title>By: Nima Negahban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nima Negahban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I don&#039;t proof read my posts. But I do admit my grammar is abysmal especially when commenting. 

I have a CS degree thanks, and I use Java and .NET on my day to day just as much as I use RoR. That is the whole point of my argument. Apparently your comprehension skills match my grammar.

Actually I just released a new version of my gel electrophoresis  analysis suite which is written all in java in the fall, it is a very good language. 

I am quite positive someone who feels the need to insult in such a manner probably isn&#039;t too decorated a programmer anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t proof read my posts. But I do admit my grammar is abysmal especially when commenting. </p>
<p>I have a CS degree thanks, and I use Java and .NET on my day to day just as much as I use RoR. That is the whole point of my argument. Apparently your comprehension skills match my grammar.</p>
<p>Actually I just released a new version of my gel electrophoresis  analysis suite which is written all in java in the fall, it is a very good language. </p>
<p>I am quite positive someone who feels the need to insult in such a manner probably isn&#8217;t too decorated a programmer anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nima:  

You clearly are not a person with supporting education in either computer science or English.

Go back to using R on R -- which I am quite positive is perfect for someone of your limited talent -- and save us all from your grammatically inferior ramblings.</description>
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<p>You clearly are not a person with supporting education in either computer science or English.</p>
<p>Go back to using R on R &#8212; which I am quite positive is perfect for someone of your limited talent &#8212; and save us all from your grammatically inferior ramblings.</p>
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		<title>By: Nima Negahban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nima Negahban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ted,

I&#039;m not specifically for rails either , please don&#039;t misconstrue my post. But to say &quot;oh .NET or J2EE is all I&#039;ll ever need , everything else has no merit&quot; is silly.

In answer to your really informed question: 

All the languages mentioned in those camps are turing complete (java , ruby , C#/F#/et.al) so your question is meaningless , see jruby , and the DLR as cited examples of what I mean.

There are some tasks that I can get the job done FASTER AND BETTER with in each language. If I&#039;m going to do some quant , I&#039;m gonna use F# or maybe haskell. If I want to create a windows driver , I&#039;m probably going to lean towards C++/MFC 9. 

There is a tool for every task. You don&#039;t have to use 7 different ones on the same project , few projects have such a scope , but when you are faced with such a challenge its important to have the right mindset.

Thats why I mentioned thrift,  and there are  other projects like it.  
If you actually ever used it , instead of going to the site for 5 minutes and writing it off , you would see that it&#039;s actually not THAT complex and not THAT hard to implement , and if your managerial style is to throw your hands in the air and say 

&quot;were too dumb to use that&quot; , then I feel sorry for your aforementioned clients.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m not specifically for rails either , please don&#8217;t misconstrue my post. But to say &#8220;oh .NET or J2EE is all I&#8217;ll ever need , everything else has no merit&#8221; is silly.</p>
<p>In answer to your really informed question: </p>
<p>All the languages mentioned in those camps are turing complete (java , ruby , C#/F#/et.al) so your question is meaningless , see jruby , and the DLR as cited examples of what I mean.</p>
<p>There are some tasks that I can get the job done FASTER AND BETTER with in each language. If I&#8217;m going to do some quant , I&#8217;m gonna use F# or maybe haskell. If I want to create a windows driver , I&#8217;m probably going to lean towards C++/MFC 9. </p>
<p>There is a tool for every task. You don&#8217;t have to use 7 different ones on the same project , few projects have such a scope , but when you are faced with such a challenge its important to have the right mindset.</p>
<p>Thats why I mentioned thrift,  and there are  other projects like it.<br />
If you actually ever used it , instead of going to the site for 5 minutes and writing it off , you would see that it&#8217;s actually not THAT complex and not THAT hard to implement , and if your managerial style is to throw your hands in the air and say </p>
<p>&#8220;were too dumb to use that&#8221; , then I feel sorry for your aforementioned clients.</p>
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