January 8, 2008

Virtual Banking Banned in Second Life

Duncan Riley

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Linden Lab has announced that virtual banking within Second Life is to be banned effective January 22 after receiving multiple complaints by Second Life residents scammed by bank operators.

Banking and associated services have become popular in Second Life over the last two years, with many offering ponzi style interest schemes that usually sounded too good to be true. Ginko Financial was the best known failure amongst Second Life banks, owing 200 million Linden ($750,000) to depositors when it declared itself insolvent in August 2007.

In a post on the Second Life blog, Ken Linden said that as well as not being able to provide protection to Second Life users with these banks running, their legality under law is also questionable. The decision is unlikely to affect virtual stock exchanges but may affect groups such as Second Life credit card provider Metacard, who also previously offered bank services as well.

Second Life banks are experiencing a run on their funds as customers seek to get their money before the ban comes in place. Companies such as JT Financial have been inundated by customers wanting to know what is going on. Screen shot of the JT Financial crisis meeting below.

Banking joins bestiality and gambling on the banned in Second Life list.

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  1. Brad Jashinsky

    As someone who has only briefly checked out Second Life over the last year or so I wonder how prevalent these sketchy types of industries and activities are in Second Life. In my personal experience there seemed to be a lot of this going on when I was just roaming around, but then again maybe it was just a bad area as there are in the real world. For anyone who plays, how important are these sketchy industries to the game?

  2. NickeyD

    I like the screenshot !

  3. PAStheLoD

    Why can’t Linden Labs let a few authorized banks operate? :o
    It’d be in their interest also and taking up the challenge, not fleeing from it, would be a more desirable way :/

  4. CAR

    Ppl need to get a life.

  5. Axel

    The problem started when it was tied to real money. It would also help if there were actual, useful, real goods and services that an economy could be based on.

    On the bestiality front, think of the virtual animals!

  6. micfo.com

    Casino & gambling industries face legal trouble in real life too.

  7. josh

    What kind of loser actually banks in Second Life? Use your First Life for that.

  8. Marek

    Can you buy a virtual shotgun or jump off a virtual 40-storey building in case you happen to lose all your cash in Second Life? Will your character die permanently?

  9. Matt

    Does anyone actually use Second Life for legitimate reasons? Just a matter of time before the Second Life economy implodes on itself and the website becomes little more than a lesson-learned.

  10. Jarett

    I love screenshots of business meetings in SL. There’s always at least one shirtless dude with sleeve tattoos and one cel-shaded video game character.

  11. Conrad

    Can you post (or email me) the SLUrl for the bank location depicted in your screenshot?

    thanks: Conrad

  12. ArminasX

    While there may be bank failures and other scams occasionally occurring in Second Life, there is a principle that people should follow: if it sounds too good to be true (e.g. ultra-high rate interest payments), it probably isn’t true. People forget this in real life as well as Second Life. It’s just that the SL events are being hyped by the media. Meanwhile, the SL economy continues to grow as do the number of businesses and residents - in spite of the numerous comments above citing “imminent collapse”, etc. If you really give Second Life a proper investigation, you will discover a whole new world of creativity and activity. There are lots of people making money in Second Life - and they sell virtual objects that often have nothing to do with real life.

  13. jtwilkins

    Virtual Banking in Second Life Banned! Virtual sex with a children still good to go.

  14. Xavier Mohr

    The screenshot is from JT Financial Investments & Savings. You can visit the location in the sim called “JT World.” There is up-to-the-minute official updating on this and other second life banks at slreports.net.

  15. Douglas Abrams

    First Meta fully supports regulation of financial services activity in the virtual economy. As First Meta’s business is not dependent on savings accounts or other investment instruments which are addressed by the new policy, we believe that the new policy will not have any adverse effects on our company. Insofar as the new policy strengthens the virtual economy, we believe this will actually benefit First Meta and our customers. You can read more about our view of this new policy at: http://www.firstmeta.com/main/policy

  16. Troy Davis

    When there is an open source, p2p alternative to SL, then I’ll pay attention to VR. The potential of VR is much greater than anything corporations can deliver or will allow.

    I’m glad Linden is making money with SL, though. It will bring about the development of the first truly global and open VR world much sooner.

  17. Tommy Toy

    As a member of SL for nearly a year now, the original premise of SL was a very nobel one, a sort of virtual wild west where anything goes. But when people actually get hurt or lose money, this is a serious problem.

    as far as i know all casinos and gambling establishments have been shut down after numerous FBI warnings. Now these SL banks are going out of business because they may have violated federal and state banking regulations. This does not surprise me at all.

    i now visit SL only about three or four times a month and notice that many businesses or sites have gone out of business, while new ones have opened up.

    i honestly don’t know how some of these virtual businesses will survive over the longterm. there really aren’t any real barriers-to-entry on SL. Too man copycats, and many businesses rely strictly on donations to make money, such as dancing sites. the successful ones have their own shopping mall to generate revenue.

    the verdict is still out on the viability of running a commercially successful business in a virtual world. just too learly to tell. marketing and promotions is a real issue and since Sl is multi-cultural with 30% of the members from the US and the other 70% from other countries, language is another problem.

    Tommy Toy
    PBT Consulting

  18. Skinny

    I’m sorry, I think it’s very very sad, tragic, but mostly pathetic, that people take this crap seriously. Who in their right mind would invest real money in something which doesn’t exist.

    If you lost money in virtual banking you deserve everything you had coming to you.

  19. Kevin

    Fun maybe. Commercial not.

  20. PK Otoole

    I’ve been active in Second Life for well over a year now and I have never understood why people would put their money in one of these SL banks. Literally, all you have to do to call yourself a bank in SL is to register free for an SL account. Anyone could register with a made up name and a throw-away free email address, and start collecting money from others as a “bank” within ten minutes.

    I think Linden Lab made a good choice here and the real question is why did it take them so long? If there is no credible reason to allow people to run banks, why complicate SL with the unneeded hassle and bad press that comes with them.

    If you have enough Linden Dollars built up, you withdraw/convert them to US Dollars and put them in your real bank. Problem solved.

  21. Wankette

    I worked for a very self-important bank owner in SL and learned his real name. I goggled him, and discovered he was a questionable business character in rl, he’d had ‘run ins’ with people before. Not only did I not bank with him, but I shortly thereafter ‘fired’ myself without notice. Sure enough, a few months later, Mr Shady Deal was gone, banked Lindens and all, while trying to pass the buck to someone else (in cahoots, most likely). I was lucky, tho., many people were not. What a nasty racket, glad it’s been stopped.

  22. Wankette

    The Lindens should also ban that World Stock Exchange where people get to ‘invest’ in someone else’s SL business. I’ll bet that’s a quagmire waiting to happen, if it already hasn’t started.