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By: Jason B.

Jason B. — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:09:32 +0000

Tom H. Said…
“It means you opposed the exploitation of women and children.”

Oh come on. I’m sure there’s exploitation in the porn business just like every other damn business, but if you think that any more than a token amount of the people making adult films are drug addled women, you’re just buying the b/s put forth by Focus on the Family and others in the fund raising business. Porn is a product like any other, and it will be around a lot longer than the hypocritical morality police filling your head with nonsense.

Oh, and thanks for tossing in the references to exploitation of children and sex abuse… topics with have absolutely nothing to do with the commercial adult film industry. When you can’t win an argument on the merits, make sure you spit out a couple of bromides about “protecting the children.”

Sex is enjoyable and porn can be fun. Get over it already.

By: Shubie Rockefeller

Shubie Rockefeller — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:27:57 +0000

Good porning everbody.

By: 42mb.com

42mb.com — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:59:24 +0000

I think he is right, no doubt this industries need recognition from ICANN too like for xxx tld.

By: Tom H.

Tom H. — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:49:40 +0000

For those of you that think porn is a free act of expressing yourself, you are seriously ignorant about the sex trade. Many, Many porn “actresses” are drug addicted and abused women working under duress.

Taking a stand against porn is not equatable to taking a stand against religion or taxes. It’s not comparable to limiting someone’s opinion on politics. It doesn’t mean you’re a zealot.

It means you opposed the exploitation of women and children.

Selling it, servicing the industry, and supporting those who promote the degradation and enslavement of women and children is despicable. These people rarely have the ability or chance to say no.

You want to stand up for freedom? Then stand up and say not to the peddlers of child sex and abuse.

Deny it if you want, but visualization inevitably leads to actualization. Porn is the the visual gateway for many sexual predators.

This has nothing to do with religion or free speech.

By: whoopie

whoopie — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:53:50 +0000

of course there is no problem with ning hosting porn, but it also indicates they may be slumming it for traffic. the porn biz has incredible traffic churn, and to date is low margin. ning will need more than t&a to make an exit

By: Peter

Peter — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:34:59 +0000

So if you don’t agree with Ning’s policy on porn, you’re a zealot? Glad we’re keeping this discussion even and unbiased.

By: Lee Cooper

Lee Cooper — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:11:01 +0000

I’d be okay with banishing porn as long as we also banished religion and taxes on the same day.

By: Dan and Jennifer

Dan and Jennifer — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:34:16 +0000

Andreessen: “We think a better approach is to let people fundamentally do what they want, as long as it isn’t illegal and doesn’t otherwise violate our terms of service.”

Very well put. Nobody is strapping you into a chair and forcing you to watch porn 24/7. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Our society has plenty of controls in place to keep people from accidentally stumbling upon “objectionable content”.

Forcing one’s arbitrary “morality” (read: religious ideals) on others may feel righteous and noble, but it’s fundamentally flawed. It’s basically saying that your morality is somehow more important than the other person’s freedom to choose or express himself.

When in doubt, look at a society like China and the many blessings they see from their completely totalitarian control of porn, free expression, etc. Perhaps that makes it easier to understand the appeal of the “freedom to choose as long as you don’t harm others” approach?

By: Derek Scruggs

Derek Scruggs — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:08:56 +0000

Good luck with advertisers and investors.

It’s worked out pretty well for AT&T. Their pay-per-view porn channel was their most profitable cable channel. It was powered by a Boulder company called New Frontier which likewise delivered handsome returns to investors. They ran into some trouble with acquisitions, but that wasn’t because of porn. Just bad business decisions.

By: Anton Mannering

Anton Mannering — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:12:46 +0000

I think Marc Andreesen is absolutely right. You either have freedom of expression or you don’t. If something is illegal then it should be stopped, but one mans morally reprehensible act is another mans religious tenet.
I think people ought to remember when they talk about restricting anyones expression, that it might mean that along the line the expression of their beliefs morals and values might be restricted too…
“Judge not less ye be judged” to quote this old book I read.

By: Allison

Allison — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:35:46 +0000

If Ning wants to be the white label social networking solution for porn, so be it. Good luck with advertisers and investors.

What does Gina think about the whole thing? I think it’s funny that she issued that holier-than-thou broadside against Flux on Techcrunch at the same time that her company was trafficking in porn.

By: damon

damon — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:24:01 +0000

ahh to see the ugly track suit again first thing in the morning

By: Andras

Andras — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:21:08 +0000

I support his views on freedom of speech, not on porn. Porn is just something that’s there, if nobody wanted it, it wouldn’t be business, but it is major business.

By: xenbet

xenbet — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:27:07 +0000

the years have not been kind on andreesen.

nothing wrong with it. Its simply catering to the audience.

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By: Technicle

Technicle — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:55:08 +0000

Truth is always in the hands of the [selected or not-so-selected] few…

By: Josh Saunders

Josh Saunders — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:43:00 +0000

The overwhelming yes in the poll must mean something! Give the people what they want… don’t let the few loud ones tear down the freedom.

By: EH

EH — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:25:52 +0000

Andreesen would love it if Zango unleashed a worm on Ning.

By: Humble Pie

Humble Pie — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:03:14 +0000

If you don’t like it - you can move to China (or Australia).

You’ll be welcomed with open arms in Chinalia!