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	<title>Comments on: Benchmark Europe Invests In UK Gambling Site. Prostitition, Drug and Gun Startups, Send in Your Business Plans.</title>
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		<title>By: Per Petersen, London</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-2/#comment-1910801</link>
		<dc:creator>Per Petersen, London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chaps,

this is all about market forces and has nothing to do with ethics - as is the case with most business. We can debate whether that is right or wrong, but that&#039;s how the cookie crumbles.

As soon as big business realised real money could be made in the gambling industry they went for it. Balderton certainly isn&#039;t the first firm to invest in this industry and more will follow. Cantor Fitzgerald has also moved into this space recently with many more following.

Most businesses across all sectors look to increase profits and it is no different in the gambling industry. Surely, moving gambling to a new platform, in this case mobiles, was always a given.

I&#039;m sure Balderton conducted excellent due dilligence and this is a smart move by them which does not pose any adverse effects ethically or in terms of future PR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaps,</p>
<p>this is all about market forces and has nothing to do with ethics &#8211; as is the case with most business. We can debate whether that is right or wrong, but that&#8217;s how the cookie crumbles.</p>
<p>As soon as big business realised real money could be made in the gambling industry they went for it. Balderton certainly isn&#8217;t the first firm to invest in this industry and more will follow. Cantor Fitzgerald has also moved into this space recently with many more following.</p>
<p>Most businesses across all sectors look to increase profits and it is no different in the gambling industry. Surely, moving gambling to a new platform, in this case mobiles, was always a given.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Balderton conducted excellent due dilligence and this is a smart move by them which does not pose any adverse effects ethically or in terms of future PR.</p>
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		<title>By: Allah Whaqbar</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-2/#comment-1909395</link>
		<dc:creator>Allah Whaqbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gambling is wrong ... death to all who gamble, I declare war on Paddy Power, allah whaqbar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gambling is wrong &#8230; death to all who gamble, I declare war on Paddy Power, allah whaqbar.</p>
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		<title>By: Jurado</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1898260</link>
		<dc:creator>Jurado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris: Spot on!  All VC is gaming money!  Infact Michael, how&#039;s we start a Tech Crunch Stock Exchange?  Trade only futures and options?  hmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris: Spot on!  All VC is gaming money!  Infact Michael, how&#8217;s we start a Tech Crunch Stock Exchange?  Trade only futures and options?  hmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1898168</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t all venture capital investment a form of gambling? Perhaps it&#039;s time we started doing angel funding via sms. Might be symptomatic of deep-seated problems if you it happens, though ;)

Oh, and it just strikes me as a little odd that Mike should have such a firm point of view in this post, but let&#039;s the Zivity posts go by with nary a whimper...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t all venture capital investment a form of gambling? Perhaps it&#8217;s time we started doing angel funding via sms. Might be symptomatic of deep-seated problems if you it happens, though <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and it just strikes me as a little odd that Mike should have such a firm point of view in this post, but let&#8217;s the Zivity posts go by with nary a whimper&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Deva Hazarika</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1898156</link>
		<dc:creator>Deva Hazarika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

&quot;anyone who’s placing bets on sporting events via their mobile phone probably has a gambling problem, which betNOW is exploiting.&quot;

Do you believe that anyone who bets on sports has a gambling problem?  If not, I don&#039;t understand why the mobile aspect makes it any different.  If someone has access to breaking, current information and uses their mobile device to make a trade in their investment portfolio, does that person have a problem?

I can understand your surprise at a name-brand VC backing this idea given issues of perception from LPs and others involved with them.  But your statement above doesn&#039;t appear very well-informed about the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>&#8220;anyone who’s placing bets on sporting events via their mobile phone probably has a gambling problem, which betNOW is exploiting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you believe that anyone who bets on sports has a gambling problem?  If not, I don&#8217;t understand why the mobile aspect makes it any different.  If someone has access to breaking, current information and uses their mobile device to make a trade in their investment portfolio, does that person have a problem?</p>
<p>I can understand your surprise at a name-brand VC backing this idea given issues of perception from LPs and others involved with them.  But your statement above doesn&#8217;t appear very well-informed about the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Scruggs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1898146</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Scruggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose net you&#039;ll go after Donald Trump &amp; Steve Wynn&#039;s backers? I&#039;m sure Goldman Sachs worries about the potential PR backlash. http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/23/business/icahn.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose net you&#8217;ll go after Donald Trump &amp; Steve Wynn&#8217;s backers? I&#8217;m sure Goldman Sachs worries about the potential PR backlash. <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/23/business/icahn.php" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/23/business/icahn.php'>http://www.iht....iness/icahn.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Betnow wins Balderton funds for text-to-bet. Addicts beware.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1898058</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Betnow wins Balderton funds for text-to-bet. Addicts beware.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arrington of TechCrunch US believes that Balderton may regret the investment &#8220;if the business gets a bad reputation.&#8221; This [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Arrington of TechCrunch US believes that Balderton may regret the investment &#8220;if the business gets a bad reputation.&#8221; This [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jurado</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1898035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jurado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrap this around your head&#039;s....Jurado Tequila is pure Nerd Herd!!!!

Some journeys are more rewarding than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrap this around your head&#8217;s&#8230;.Jurado Tequila is pure Nerd Herd!!!!</p>
<p>Some journeys are more rewarding than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon B</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1898023</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gambling in the UK is very rarely linked to criminality, indeed many leading businesses on the London Stock Exchange derive their sole income from gambling, and many of our leading soccer teams are sponsored by gambling firms.

Of course there are problem gamblers, just as there are problem drinkers, but you can&#039;t ban something that is enjoyed by so many people because of the small minority who can&#039;t control themselves.

I hope you&#039;ll take on board some of the comments from other posters, rather than getting defensive.

Thanks for all your entertaining and informative work, and best wishes for the New Year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gambling in the UK is very rarely linked to criminality, indeed many leading businesses on the London Stock Exchange derive their sole income from gambling, and many of our leading soccer teams are sponsored by gambling firms.</p>
<p>Of course there are problem gamblers, just as there are problem drinkers, but you can&#8217;t ban something that is enjoyed by so many people because of the small minority who can&#8217;t control themselves.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll take on board some of the comments from other posters, rather than getting defensive.</p>
<p>Thanks for all your entertaining and informative work, and best wishes for the New Year.</p>
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		<title>By: PokeR</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897985</link>
		<dc:creator>PokeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think that text messaging would make it easier for casual gamblers to get in on the game. When I envision someone with a gambling addiction, I would imagine that person to be going out of their way to get a fix, like driving 3 hours late at night to get to Vegas or something.

The gangster history is only affiliated with Vegas casinos that occurred decades ago. I&#039;m pretty sure that there weren&#039;t any gambling websites then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that text messaging would make it easier for casual gamblers to get in on the game. When I envision someone with a gambling addiction, I would imagine that person to be going out of their way to get a fix, like driving 3 hours late at night to get to Vegas or something.</p>
<p>The gangster history is only affiliated with Vegas casinos that occurred decades ago. I&#8217;m pretty sure that there weren&#8217;t any gambling websites then.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lynch</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897945</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Michael, didn&#039;t know you were so conservative regarding gambling. 

The US right now is threatening the whole future of the WTO by not abiding by their recent ruling in favor of Antigua. Why should China etc.. take WTO rulings on copyright etc seriously when the US just picks and chooses the rulings it obeys?

No wonder the US is having a hard time lately with its image! Its not just Iraq and human rights...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Michael, didn&#8217;t know you were so conservative regarding gambling. </p>
<p>The US right now is threatening the whole future of the WTO by not abiding by their recent ruling in favor of Antigua. Why should China etc.. take WTO rulings on copyright etc seriously when the US just picks and chooses the rulings it obeys?</p>
<p>No wonder the US is having a hard time lately with its image! Its not just Iraq and human rights&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897904</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*26 is right...this is a self-healing proposition: get addicted, gamble too much, can&#039;t pay phone bill, get cut off, can&#039;t gamble anymore..cured!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*26 is right&#8230;this is a self-healing proposition: get addicted, gamble too much, can&#8217;t pay phone bill, get cut off, can&#8217;t gamble anymore..cured!!</p>
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		<title>By: King</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897903</link>
		<dc:creator>King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike is right specially if you have read the book &#039;eBoys&#039; which is a story of benchmark&#039;s rise in early days..that book is so awesome that hollywood can make a movie based on that..i just can&#039;t believe benchmark did it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike is right specially if you have read the book &#8216;eBoys&#8217; which is a story of benchmark&#8217;s rise in early days..that book is so awesome that hollywood can make a movie based on that..i just can&#8217;t believe benchmark did it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bow wow wow</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897899</link>
		<dc:creator>Bow wow wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!  All i can really say is wow.  Ignorance is bliss .... 

Michael ... there is a world outside of the US ... you should maybe check it out some time ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!  All i can really say is wow.  Ignorance is bliss &#8230;. </p>
<p>Michael &#8230; there is a world outside of the US &#8230; you should maybe check it out some time &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897836</link>
		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father Arrington, here are just come of the Venture and Private Equity firms that have invested in gambling:

Index Ventures (Betfair)
Softbank (Betfair)
Benchmark (Betfair)
Kleiner Perkins (Silicon Gaming)
Bain (GameLogic)
General Catalyst (GameLogic)
Maveron (GameLogic)
Apollo (Harrah&#039;s)
TPG (Harrah&#039;s)
Goldman Sachs (Station&#039;s Casinos)
Morgan Stanley (Revel Entertainment)
Tiger (GTech)
MacAndrews &amp; Forbes (Scientific Games)
Sumner Redstone (Williams Gaming)

not to mention the literally hundreds (thousands?) of institutional investors who invest in gambling public equities

So lighten up, will you? In excess, Coca Cola demonstrably kills. Does Warren Buffett have a PR problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father Arrington, here are just come of the Venture and Private Equity firms that have invested in gambling:</p>
<p>Index Ventures (Betfair)<br />
Softbank (Betfair)<br />
Benchmark (Betfair)<br />
Kleiner Perkins (Silicon Gaming)<br />
Bain (GameLogic)<br />
General Catalyst (GameLogic)<br />
Maveron (GameLogic)<br />
Apollo (Harrah&#8217;s)<br />
TPG (Harrah&#8217;s)<br />
Goldman Sachs (Station&#8217;s Casinos)<br />
Morgan Stanley (Revel Entertainment)<br />
Tiger (GTech)<br />
MacAndrews &amp; Forbes (Scientific Games)<br />
Sumner Redstone (Williams Gaming)</p>
<p>not to mention the literally hundreds (thousands?) of institutional investors who invest in gambling public equities</p>
<p>So lighten up, will you? In excess, Coca Cola demonstrably kills. Does Warren Buffett have a PR problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897770</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin - I don&#039;t equate laws to ethics. I am fine with gambling. I&#039;m fine with gambling by text message. I&#039;m just surprised Benchmark is bankrolling it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8211; I don&#8217;t equate laws to ethics. I am fine with gambling. I&#8217;m fine with gambling by text message. I&#8217;m just surprised Benchmark is bankrolling it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897765</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason:

&quot;When my pot dealer began accepting SMS orders, I knew I definitely had a problem. I don’t have a problem with pot — I mean how hot is Mary-Louise Parker? — we just need to keep these transactions within some reasonable limits.&quot;

f&#039;ing hilarious. well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason:</p>
<p>&#8220;When my pot dealer began accepting SMS orders, I knew I definitely had a problem. I don’t have a problem with pot — I mean how hot is Mary-Louise Parker? — we just need to keep these transactions within some reasonable limits.&#8221;</p>
<p>f&#8217;ing hilarious. well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897762</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

In response, there&#039;s a market for everything.  Some things (eg. child porn, snuff, etc.) would be the exception of something not to invest in for obvious reasons - so I hardly think it&#039;s a PR blunder on Balderton&#039;s part to get into this legal business that just makes sense.

On another note, you continue to make all these leaps into things that may make people feel slightly uncomfortable, but they&#039;re legal nonetheless.  I guess we&#039;ll use this post as a testament to your moral / non-objective slants.

BTW - You&#039;re not right.  You just think you are (lol), but at least you&#039;re honest with your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>In response, there&#8217;s a market for everything.  Some things (eg. child porn, snuff, etc.) would be the exception of something not to invest in for obvious reasons &#8211; so I hardly think it&#8217;s a PR blunder on Balderton&#8217;s part to get into this legal business that just makes sense.</p>
<p>On another note, you continue to make all these leaps into things that may make people feel slightly uncomfortable, but they&#8217;re legal nonetheless.  I guess we&#8217;ll use this post as a testament to your moral / non-objective slants.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; You&#8217;re not right.  You just think you are (lol), but at least you&#8217;re honest with your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897760</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally get Michael&#039;s argument.  It&#039;s like, reductio ad grandfatherum.  Technology is always the great indicator of moral problems.  That&#039;s not objective, it&#039;s just right.  Damn kids text messaging their bets, ruining their family&#039;s lives, ruining their investors&#039; PR relations, not paying attention in class.  Our moral fabric is eroding under all this efficiency and convenience.  It&#039;s a mess.  Trust me, I know.  I gambled once.  I also gambled in Europe and like, everyone agreed there were certain lines you just don&#039;t cross.  At least show up the the pub before placing your bet.  And this doesn&#039;t just apply to gambling: like Michael said, it applies to basically anything, like guns or drugs.  Whores too, probably.  When my pot dealer began accepting SMS orders, I knew I definitely had a problem.  I don&#039;t have a problem with pot -- I mean how hot is Mary-Louise Parker? -- we just need to keep these transactions within some reasonable limits.  Text message bud = BIG RED FLAG.  Let&#039;s stick to walks down Haight Street.  Or smoke signals, though that might fit with the laws of supply and demand in that particular example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally get Michael&#8217;s argument.  It&#8217;s like, reductio ad grandfatherum.  Technology is always the great indicator of moral problems.  That&#8217;s not objective, it&#8217;s just right.  Damn kids text messaging their bets, ruining their family&#8217;s lives, ruining their investors&#8217; PR relations, not paying attention in class.  Our moral fabric is eroding under all this efficiency and convenience.  It&#8217;s a mess.  Trust me, I know.  I gambled once.  I also gambled in Europe and like, everyone agreed there were certain lines you just don&#8217;t cross.  At least show up the the pub before placing your bet.  And this doesn&#8217;t just apply to gambling: like Michael said, it applies to basically anything, like guns or drugs.  Whores too, probably.  When my pot dealer began accepting SMS orders, I knew I definitely had a problem.  I don&#8217;t have a problem with pot &#8212; I mean how hot is Mary-Louise Parker? &#8212; we just need to keep these transactions within some reasonable limits.  Text message bud = BIG RED FLAG.  Let&#8217;s stick to walks down Haight Street.  Or smoke signals, though that might fit with the laws of supply and demand in that particular example.</p>
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		<title>By: Rahul Dighe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rahul Dighe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>historical ties to organized crime ??? - you have lived in UK, i find this statement unbelievable, these are professionally managed companies which make a lot of money i think its one of the few business models that are actually making a lot of money on the internet , its just the whole of las vegas online! 

With regards to texting to place bet i don&#039;t think you can automatically qualify them with a gambling problem, texting is a way of life here in the UK, would you say the same if someone uses an IPHONE to place a bet ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>historical ties to organized crime ??? &#8211; you have lived in UK, i find this statement unbelievable, these are professionally managed companies which make a lot of money i think its one of the few business models that are actually making a lot of money on the internet , its just the whole of las vegas online! </p>
<p>With regards to texting to place bet i don&#8217;t think you can automatically qualify them with a gambling problem, texting is a way of life here in the UK, would you say the same if someone uses an IPHONE to place a bet ?</p>
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		<title>By: El Che</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897722</link>
		<dc:creator>El Che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gambling is a sin! Sinners go to hell.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Frese</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897715</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Frese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcohol, cars, planes, guns, the list goes on and on produce plenty of sob stories you liberalcrite. Let adults make their own decisions and stop trying to run people&#039;s lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcohol, cars, planes, guns, the list goes on and on produce plenty of sob stories you liberalcrite. Let adults make their own decisions and stop trying to run people&#8217;s lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Eccles</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897714</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Eccles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting investment but strange slant to take on it. Firstly, telephone betting has been going on in the UK pretty much since the introduction of the telephone. I don&#039;t see betting by text message as a massive innovation although certainly handy.

Secondly, while betting by phone has been legal since at least the 1960&#039;s the UK betting laws have been increasingly liberalised over the past 7 years (although our new Calvinist prime minister isn&#039;t allowing us even one big casino :-(  ). The interesting thing is that over the past 7 years government research has shown that the instances of problem gambling is stable.

Lastly, this isn&#039;t Balderton&#039;s first investment in a UK betting company. They already have a stake in Betfair (which has offered mobile betting since about 2002).

(Disclosure: As a former employee I have a small amount of shares in Betfair)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting investment but strange slant to take on it. Firstly, telephone betting has been going on in the UK pretty much since the introduction of the telephone. I don&#8217;t see betting by text message as a massive innovation although certainly handy.</p>
<p>Secondly, while betting by phone has been legal since at least the 1960&#8217;s the UK betting laws have been increasingly liberalised over the past 7 years (although our new Calvinist prime minister isn&#8217;t allowing us even one big casino <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   ). The interesting thing is that over the past 7 years government research has shown that the instances of problem gambling is stable.</p>
<p>Lastly, this isn&#8217;t Balderton&#8217;s first investment in a UK betting company. They already have a stake in Betfair (which has offered mobile betting since about 2002).</p>
<p>(Disclosure: As a former employee I have a small amount of shares in Betfair)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/03/benchmark-europe-invests-in-uk-gambling-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1897677</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

You couldn&#039;t have this one more wrong... and your post sounds very biased and slanted. Who are you to shake your finger at someone making a perfectly legal investment in the gambling market in the UK? Why no moral judgment on the AdultFriendFinder deal? Guess you like your porn and promiscuous sex with strangers... it&#039;s cool, I do to. Also, considering you make your money by commenting on who VC&#039;s are &#039;betting&#039; on... this article wreaks of hypocrisy. I&#039;d say anyone who invested heavily in Tech before the bubble burst had a serious gambling problem... wouldn&#039;t you?

All jokes aside, this could be a useful service that easily make a lot of money legally in the UK. For example, live betting ( ie. during an event ) is a massive growth area in the online gambling market. If you&#039;re in a pub watching a match (or at the event) and you want to place a bet (as many people do) sending a txt is a convenient way to do so. Many of the largest UK bookmakers have mobile sites that allow punters to place bets via their mobile.... though not via txt message. 

Do all of the people using their mobiles to place bets have gambling problems?? No.</description>
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<p>You couldn&#8217;t have this one more wrong&#8230; and your post sounds very biased and slanted. Who are you to shake your finger at someone making a perfectly legal investment in the gambling market in the UK? Why no moral judgment on the AdultFriendFinder deal? Guess you like your porn and promiscuous sex with strangers&#8230; it&#8217;s cool, I do to. Also, considering you make your money by commenting on who VC&#8217;s are &#8216;betting&#8217; on&#8230; this article wreaks of hypocrisy. I&#8217;d say anyone who invested heavily in Tech before the bubble burst had a serious gambling problem&#8230; wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>All jokes aside, this could be a useful service that easily make a lot of money legally in the UK. For example, live betting ( ie. during an event ) is a massive growth area in the online gambling market. If you&#8217;re in a pub watching a match (or at the event) and you want to place a bet (as many people do) sending a txt is a convenient way to do so. Many of the largest UK bookmakers have mobile sites that allow punters to place bets via their mobile&#8230;. though not via txt message. </p>
<p>Do all of the people using their mobiles to place bets have gambling problems?? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a legitimate business with a legitimate service.</description>
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