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	<title>Comments on: Cooking.com Takes Out A $7 Million Loan</title>
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		<title>By: LOANS</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-2490702</link>
		<dc:creator>LOANS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your goal is not only to find the best rates and programs, by searching through a huge number of lenders products, and save yourself thousands of dollars on mortgage payments every year, but also, to save time and hassle by simplifying the loan process and reducing the paperwork. Here are some things you can keep in mind when selecting a mortgage provider.</p>
<p>1. Shop For Rates</p>
<p>You should get instant online free quotes, and be able to apply securely online.</p>
<p>2. Apply Online</p>
<p>Be able to use a secure online application and let a qualified loan specialist help you find the best loan program.</p>
<p>3. Get Prequalified</p>
<p>Find out how much money you can borrow for your next home purchase!</p>
<p>4. Get Pre-Approved</p>
<p>Get free, no obligation pre-approved commitment letter that you qualify.</p>
<p>5. Loan Processing And Approval</p>
<p>This is when your loan is processed, goes through underwriting and final approval.</p>
<p>Taking these steps will be in you best interest to secure a mortgage that will benefit you and your family. It will also help to save you money</p>
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		<title>By: Who covers more deals: Techcrunch or Mashable? &#171; TechBays</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1923557</link>
		<dc:creator>Who covers more deals: Techcrunch or Mashable? &#171; TechBays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cooking.com Takes Out A $7 Million Loan &#124; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tech Coast Review - Fanista Profiled</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1896905</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Coast Review - Fanista Profiled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tech Cost Review - Cooking.com gets loan...&lt;/strong&gt;

..one would hope that with the additional money, Cooking.com can now afford/find the time to update their site.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tech Cost Review - Cooking.com gets loan&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>..one would hope that with the additional money, Cooking.com can now afford/find the time to update their site&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Nick DiBari</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1896819</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick DiBari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is further evidence of how uninformed most people are about venture debt.  For the author of the article to incorrectly suggest that venture debt is "commonly" structured as a convertible loan exemplifies this notion.  

It is not only pragmatic for a later stage company to seek other non-dilutive forms of financing (i.e. venture debt) but it is often in the best interests of management and the shareholders of the company to do so.  It certainly DOES NOT portend that the company has no other financing options.  In the case of Cooking.com that presumption couldn't be further from the truth.  Furthermore, if the author took the time to understand Cooking's actual business model instead of writing an article based on pure speculation and lack of knowledge then we wouldn't even be having this discussion.  

Articles such as these do the venture lending community a huge disservice.    There is a ton of misinformation out there about venture lending that is being propagated by the uninformed.  Testimonials such as Jeremy Allaire's comments help a great deal in correcting those wrong and oftentimes grossly inaccurate assertions about venture debt.  

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is further evidence of how uninformed most people are about venture debt.  For the author of the article to incorrectly suggest that venture debt is &#8220;commonly&#8221; structured as a convertible loan exemplifies this notion.  </p>
<p>It is not only pragmatic for a later stage company to seek other non-dilutive forms of financing (i.e. venture debt) but it is often in the best interests of management and the shareholders of the company to do so.  It certainly DOES NOT portend that the company has no other financing options.  In the case of Cooking.com that presumption couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth.  Furthermore, if the author took the time to understand Cooking&#8217;s actual business model instead of writing an article based on pure speculation and lack of knowledge then we wouldn&#8217;t even be having this discussion.  </p>
<p>Articles such as these do the venture lending community a huge disservice.    There is a ton of misinformation out there about venture lending that is being propagated by the uninformed.  Testimonials such as Jeremy Allaire&#8217;s comments help a great deal in correcting those wrong and oftentimes grossly inaccurate assertions about venture debt.  </p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Cooking.com Bakes A $7 Million Loan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1896584</link>
		<dc:creator>Cooking.com Bakes A $7 Million Loan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sites for Betty Crocker and Starbucks.  The loan will be made to expand their services.  TechCrunch &#38; VentureBeat reports that the company has previously raised $88 million from IdeaLab, Pyramid [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sites for Betty Crocker and Starbucks.  The loan will be made to expand their services.  TechCrunch &amp; VentureBeat reports that the company has previously raised $88 million from IdeaLab, Pyramid [...]</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1896127</link>
		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeremy allaire's email is correct, sort of, but misleading

venture debt is never -- never -- available to companies that have not raised lots of venture capital from deep pocketed VCs

a company with cash flows (EBITDA) can get plain old ban k debt, e.g. a revolving line of credit, based on some conservative percentage of receivables. happens every boring day, a killion times over

"venture debt" is for young companies that dont have EBITDA

the lenders are lending entirely based on the confidence of the venture capital investors -- as venture debt is senior to equity, VCs have to hand over the company to the venture debt lender if there is a default.

as for the econimics, the premise of venture debt as an asset class (that is, how lenders make money) is

way above market interest rates (today, typically Prime rate plus 5-7%, or 10-12% per annum) plus equity "kicker" in the form of a small warrant (typically a couple percentage points on the amount of the loan, e.g. 3% of the loan is the value of the warrant -- if the loan is say $1 million, then warrant is for $30,000 stock, at the last VC price, or lowest price if there is a cram down.)

often a great deal for startups, for sure. but a very very dubious asset class (um, what percentage of venture backed companies fail?) and a sure sign that the bubble is turning into a BUBBLE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeremy allaire&#8217;s email is correct, sort of, but misleading</p>
<p>venture debt is never &#8212; never &#8212; available to companies that have not raised lots of venture capital from deep pocketed VCs</p>
<p>a company with cash flows (EBITDA) can get plain old ban k debt, e.g. a revolving line of credit, based on some conservative percentage of receivables. happens every boring day, a killion times over</p>
<p>&#8220;venture debt&#8221; is for young companies that dont have EBITDA</p>
<p>the lenders are lending entirely based on the confidence of the venture capital investors &#8212; as venture debt is senior to equity, VCs have to hand over the company to the venture debt lender if there is a default.</p>
<p>as for the econimics, the premise of venture debt as an asset class (that is, how lenders make money) is</p>
<p>way above market interest rates (today, typically Prime rate plus 5-7%, or 10-12% per annum) plus equity &#8220;kicker&#8221; in the form of a small warrant (typically a couple percentage points on the amount of the loan, e.g. 3% of the loan is the value of the warrant &#8212; if the loan is say $1 million, then warrant is for $30,000 stock, at the last VC price, or lowest price if there is a cram down.)</p>
<p>often a great deal for startups, for sure. but a very very dubious asset class (um, what percentage of venture backed companies fail?) and a sure sign that the bubble is turning into a BUBBLE</p>
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		<title>By: chrisco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1896061</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: Also available for venture debt work, consulting, etc.  Would also consider VP level job at ethical firm.  There are a lot of sharks out there in this sector, just like VC, I guess.  I liked my name to my Linked in profile if anyone cares to learn more.  Cheers again, chrisco http://www.venturelender.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: Also available for venture debt work, consulting, etc.  Would also consider VP level job at ethical firm.  There are a lot of sharks out there in this sector, just like VC, I guess.  I liked my name to my Linked in profile if anyone cares to learn more.  Cheers again, chrisco <a href="http://www.venturelender.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.venturelender.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: MikeT</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895929</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeremy Wright: Thanks, Jeremy, but that is already called convertible debt. Interesting how Erick and Co will cover specifically "Venture Debt" in the future. 

I think that "Venture Debt" would be the kind of debt that is directed towards startups or businesses in early stages and where the interest rates are higher than junk debt (because the startup business is risky and usually there is not much to secure it with).  Well, a company that lends money at around 20% on average and is well diversified will deliver good results compared to the market averages (11%), but this is definitely not the return that VC companies are looking for, hence either the appearance of a new industry, or the change of the term Venture Capital.

As Patrick Bultema mentioned, this is a big topic. So much could be written about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeremy Wright: Thanks, Jeremy, but that is already called convertible debt. Interesting how Erick and Co will cover specifically &#8220;Venture Debt&#8221; in the future. </p>
<p>I think that &#8220;Venture Debt&#8221; would be the kind of debt that is directed towards startups or businesses in early stages and where the interest rates are higher than junk debt (because the startup business is risky and usually there is not much to secure it with).  Well, a company that lends money at around 20% on average and is well diversified will deliver good results compared to the market averages (11%), but this is definitely not the return that VC companies are looking for, hence either the appearance of a new industry, or the change of the term Venture Capital.</p>
<p>As Patrick Bultema mentioned, this is a big topic. So much could be written about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bret Waters</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895921</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire premise of this post is backwards - for the most part debt capital is PREFERABLE to equity capital, and is almost ALWAYS better for shareholders. Any Weighted Average Cost of Capital (WACC) analysis shows this, in part because interest is tax-deductible for all corporations (what matters to shareholders is the after-tax cost of capital), not to mention preservation of equity (equity capital always involves the dilution (AKA "cramming-down") of current shareholders.

The reason that early-stage companies are forced to raise venture capital is that there's no way a startup can raise debt capital. Once a company matures, its ability to raise debt rather than having to return to vulture equity may well be a sign of strength, not weakness. (Some VC firms, Sandhill Capital in particular, are increasingly getting into the venture debt business, alongside their traditional venture equity business).

I know nothing about cooking.com, so I have no idea of the details of this particular deal, but any Finance 101 professor can tell you that the premise of this author's post is backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire premise of this post is backwards - for the most part debt capital is PREFERABLE to equity capital, and is almost ALWAYS better for shareholders. Any Weighted Average Cost of Capital (WACC) analysis shows this, in part because interest is tax-deductible for all corporations (what matters to shareholders is the after-tax cost of capital), not to mention preservation of equity (equity capital always involves the dilution (AKA &#8220;cramming-down&#8221;) of current shareholders.</p>
<p>The reason that early-stage companies are forced to raise venture capital is that there&#8217;s no way a startup can raise debt capital. Once a company matures, its ability to raise debt rather than having to return to vulture equity may well be a sign of strength, not weakness. (Some VC firms, Sandhill Capital in particular, are increasingly getting into the venture debt business, alongside their traditional venture equity business).</p>
<p>I know nothing about cooking.com, so I have no idea of the details of this particular deal, but any Finance 101 professor can tell you that the premise of this author&#8217;s post is backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895917</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venture debt isn't banks. It's VC firms who do debt-based deals (typically interest + warrants, at least in Canada) instead of cash for equity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venture debt isn&#8217;t banks. It&#8217;s VC firms who do debt-based deals (typically interest + warrants, at least in Canada) instead of cash for equity.</p>
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		<title>By: Spez Smartman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895912</link>
		<dc:creator>Spez Smartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is venture debt not giving up equity?

Banks don't give money for free.  There is some type of collateral on the line -- whether it's your house or your soul.

No one gives free money friends.  No one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is venture debt not giving up equity?</p>
<p>Banks don&#8217;t give money for free.  There is some type of collateral on the line &#8212; whether it&#8217;s your house or your soul.</p>
<p>No one gives free money friends.  No one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895906</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MikeT: Private Equity as a capital class is less about cash=equity and more about risk profile.

Venture Debt firms, after all, get "as if converted" equity in the form of warrants (or similar), so they are getting "equity", they're just getting it later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MikeT: Private Equity as a capital class is less about cash=equity and more about risk profile.</p>
<p>Venture Debt firms, after all, get &#8220;as if converted&#8221; equity in the form of warrants (or similar), so they are getting &#8220;equity&#8221;, they&#8217;re just getting it later.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeT</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895875</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23: Even if another round of financing is not a big deal to write about, it still helps the ones who are trying to come up with "the next big thing", "the product that will revolutionize the industry", etc.  to see what's going on in the market 

In more serious terms though, there are no other places to read about it except for blogs like TC and others like it. And since it's so easy these days to launch a site and so many try to do it, they all form the audience (myself included) hungry for this type of information. 
Plus, it helps to guesstimate the valuation of a certain type of business with a certain number of unique monthly visitors. Thus, these articles are welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23: Even if another round of financing is not a big deal to write about, it still helps the ones who are trying to come up with &#8220;the next big thing&#8221;, &#8220;the product that will revolutionize the industry&#8221;, etc.  to see what&#8217;s going on in the market </p>
<p>In more serious terms though, there are no other places to read about it except for blogs like TC and others like it. And since it&#8217;s so easy these days to launch a site and so many try to do it, they all form the audience (myself included) hungry for this type of information.<br />
Plus, it helps to guesstimate the valuation of a certain type of business with a certain number of unique monthly visitors. Thus, these articles are welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sung Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895859</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sung Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes when a company has had multiple rounds of financing like cooking, a debt/loan placement may be better - for both investors and employees - than recapitalizing the company in another round of financing.

But like others have said, it depends on the uniqueness of each situation. Certainly don't think its a sign of any emerging trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes when a company has had multiple rounds of financing like cooking, a debt/loan placement may be better - for both investors and employees - than recapitalizing the company in another round of financing.</p>
<p>But like others have said, it depends on the uniqueness of each situation. Certainly don&#8217;t think its a sign of any emerging trend.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Schonfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895848</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick Schonfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments on venture debt.  I have updated the post.  This does seem to be a growing trend, and I will try to learn more.

I agree that whether or not it is better or worse than traditional venture capital depends on the terms of each deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments on venture debt.  I have updated the post.  This does seem to be a growing trend, and I will try to learn more.</p>
<p>I agree that whether or not it is better or worse than traditional venture capital depends on the terms of each deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Petr</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895847</link>
		<dc:creator>Petr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus, it is incredible...</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Bultema</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895844</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Bultema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A final thought for me here and I'll stop.  Regardless of whether it's venture debt or venture equity, why do companies think a financing is a newsworthy event?  I realize this flies a bit in the face of a lot of what is reported here, but I still don't get why so many companies make a news event out of a financing?  Winning marquis customers...  Having key people join the company...  Strategic partnerships that drive growth... Merging with another company...  Going public...  These I get.  "Did a debt round", seems basically analogous to saying we upgraded the TP in the bathrooms at the company.  Kind of a financial hygiene factor, but is it really more than that? Clearly, capital in whatever form or source is a needed resource, but it isn't the value that makes a startup successful.  So why all the financing news?  I have to admit, talking about startup and operational financing seems like the kind of news you make up when you don't have anything more important to talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A final thought for me here and I&#8217;ll stop.  Regardless of whether it&#8217;s venture debt or venture equity, why do companies think a financing is a newsworthy event?  I realize this flies a bit in the face of a lot of what is reported here, but I still don&#8217;t get why so many companies make a news event out of a financing?  Winning marquis customers&#8230;  Having key people join the company&#8230;  Strategic partnerships that drive growth&#8230; Merging with another company&#8230;  Going public&#8230;  These I get.  &#8220;Did a debt round&#8221;, seems basically analogous to saying we upgraded the TP in the bathrooms at the company.  Kind of a financial hygiene factor, but is it really more than that? Clearly, capital in whatever form or source is a needed resource, but it isn&#8217;t the value that makes a startup successful.  So why all the financing news?  I have to admit, talking about startup and operational financing seems like the kind of news you make up when you don&#8217;t have anything more important to talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeT</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895837</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debt is cheaper indeed...
It is ok for a startup to borrow - I agree.

The only thing I noticed as weird is "Venture Debt".

See this:   Venture capital is a type of private EQUITY [upper case by MikeT] capital typically provided by professional, institutionally-backed outside investors to new, growth businesses. ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_capital

Are we witnessing the birth of a new type of VC business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debt is cheaper indeed&#8230;<br />
It is ok for a startup to borrow - I agree.</p>
<p>The only thing I noticed as weird is &#8220;Venture Debt&#8221;.</p>
<p>See this:   Venture capital is a type of private EQUITY [upper case by MikeT] capital typically provided by professional, institutionally-backed outside investors to new, growth businesses. &#8230;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_capital" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_capital</a></p>
<p>Are we witnessing the birth of a new type of VC business?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Bultema</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895826</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Bultema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know of cooking.com is a good idea or good business and really don't care.  However, I'm glad to see the comments here, because the debt related statements in the article suggest a lack of understanding of venture debt.  Several companies I'm involved in (venture partner, board member, Exec Chair, etc)  have recently done venture debt deals, (not with banks) and the terms have been very attractive; in fact more attractive than I've ever seen before.  The statements here that suggest "debt" is somehow inferior to "equity" from a corp/startup finance perspective strike me as uninformed and naive to the level of silly. 

In several recent cases, I've seen venture debt deals that seem to suggest these institutions are competitively displacing what could have otherwise been venture equity deals.  And no, they aren't bridge or convertible instruments.  They aren't AR factoring, nor asset based. For all practical purposes, they are doing debt deals that serve the purpose that would otherwise have been risk equity, with modest warrant coverage, so limited dilution.  

Is this an emerging trend?  Is it going to offer a competitive alternative to venture? Seems this would be worthy of a serious editorial piece. BTW, virtually every fast growing company as it matures seeks an optimal balance between debt, equity, and balance sheet assets.  It isn't debt bad, equity good, or venture bad, bootstrap good.  But rather, what is the optimal way to resource the establishment and growth of a successful company.  Not a simply issue, and I've grapple with it as a raw startup, and being CEO of a startup that's gone public.  

Unfortunately, the this piece throws in a drive by shooting of a big and important topic without understanding the domain or current state of the news on financing.  So two suggestions.  One, consider giving the topic appropriate attention.  Two, make sure you know the domain before you go Op Ed.

I know this is coming off as a bit harsh. I do appreciate the "news" here.  This one was just an uncommon miss from my perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know of cooking.com is a good idea or good business and really don&#8217;t care.  However, I&#8217;m glad to see the comments here, because the debt related statements in the article suggest a lack of understanding of venture debt.  Several companies I&#8217;m involved in (venture partner, board member, Exec Chair, etc)  have recently done venture debt deals, (not with banks) and the terms have been very attractive; in fact more attractive than I&#8217;ve ever seen before.  The statements here that suggest &#8220;debt&#8221; is somehow inferior to &#8220;equity&#8221; from a corp/startup finance perspective strike me as uninformed and naive to the level of silly. </p>
<p>In several recent cases, I&#8217;ve seen venture debt deals that seem to suggest these institutions are competitively displacing what could have otherwise been venture equity deals.  And no, they aren&#8217;t bridge or convertible instruments.  They aren&#8217;t AR factoring, nor asset based. For all practical purposes, they are doing debt deals that serve the purpose that would otherwise have been risk equity, with modest warrant coverage, so limited dilution.  </p>
<p>Is this an emerging trend?  Is it going to offer a competitive alternative to venture? Seems this would be worthy of a serious editorial piece. BTW, virtually every fast growing company as it matures seeks an optimal balance between debt, equity, and balance sheet assets.  It isn&#8217;t debt bad, equity good, or venture bad, bootstrap good.  But rather, what is the optimal way to resource the establishment and growth of a successful company.  Not a simply issue, and I&#8217;ve grapple with it as a raw startup, and being CEO of a startup that&#8217;s gone public.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the this piece throws in a drive by shooting of a big and important topic without understanding the domain or current state of the news on financing.  So two suggestions.  One, consider giving the topic appropriate attention.  Two, make sure you know the domain before you go Op Ed.</p>
<p>I know this is coming off as a bit harsh. I do appreciate the &#8220;news&#8221; here.  This one was just an uncommon miss from my perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895815</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should roll some of their more active forum participants into column/blog writers. That way they create a bridge between the two content areas without any redesign resentment or user attrition. No need to spend any of that 7mil on a FoodNet star, work with the social you already have!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should roll some of their more active forum participants into column/blog writers. That way they create a bridge between the two content areas without any redesign resentment or user attrition. No need to spend any of that 7mil on a FoodNet star, work with the social you already have!</p>
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		<title>By: The Real Deal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895807</link>
		<dc:creator>The Real Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are actually providing the backend for Starbuck's ecommerce site as well as other major brands...I think this is unaccounted for in the traffic graph you posted. Even though you missed this point, Cooking isn't a homerun...but you should research beyond Alexa stats

They are just a group of average developers, adding marginal feature enhancements and white labeling their core technology...which they are making work...debt makes perfect sense if you read #9 comment about IP heavy companies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are actually providing the backend for Starbuck&#8217;s ecommerce site as well as other major brands&#8230;I think this is unaccounted for in the traffic graph you posted. Even though you missed this point, Cooking isn&#8217;t a homerun&#8230;but you should research beyond Alexa stats</p>
<p>They are just a group of average developers, adding marginal feature enhancements and white labeling their core technology&#8230;which they are making work&#8230;debt makes perfect sense if you read #9 comment about IP heavy companies</p>
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		<title>By: .rb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895797</link>
		<dc:creator>.rb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah still old design - but Im confident they had to atleast show some mock-ups of a new design and a new business plan to get 7mm ...

 - also Im sure they are pofitable, and debt should mean they can pay it off early before it is converted into - shares of equity.

 - its a huge gamble that is betting the company's status quo vs. todays hot internet market. Its probably a good bet - either way it turns out atleast they tried</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah still old design - but Im confident they had to atleast show some mock-ups of a new design and a new business plan to get 7mm &#8230;</p>
<p> - also Im sure they are pofitable, and debt should mean they can pay it off early before it is converted into - shares of equity.</p>
<p> - its a huge gamble that is betting the company&#8217;s status quo vs. todays hot internet market. Its probably a good bet - either way it turns out atleast they tried</p>
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		<title>By: Wedding Photographers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895774</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedding Photographers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They probably need part of that 7 mil to cook them up a new website. Wowza....it looks old school!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probably need part of that 7 mil to cook them up a new website. Wowza&#8230;.it looks old school!</p>
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		<title>By: What's Hot Today.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895771</link>
		<dc:creator>What's Hot Today.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the question I have is do they make enough in revenue to service the debt of such a sizable loan.?

http://www.whatshottoday.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the question I have is do they make enough in revenue to service the debt of such a sizable loan.?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whatshottoday.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatshottoday.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: marques</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/02/cookingcom-takes-out-a-7-million-loan/#comment-1895765</link>
		<dc:creator>marques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, seeking VC capital should be a last resort or you have large capital expenses.  Why would anyone want a money hungry VC on your back?  People make the mistake thinking that VC money is free.  Yes VC money reduces your risk, but the agreement/contract you are going to sign is always going to be in the VCs favor.  Want to change your business plan or sellout at a low bid, well you will have to get permission from your VC first.

Just my 2 cents, I really do not like TC’s mentality that every website (1.0, 2.0 whatever) needs VC money to be successful.  Hey Mike why don’t you highlight self funded startups from time to time (hint hint).  Maybe you do, but whenever I visited your site I see the word million or facebook in almost every story.

Here is a video highlighting those who did not seek VC support and look where they are at now.

http://www.myvidster.com/video/2629</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, seeking VC capital should be a last resort or you have large capital expenses.  Why would anyone want a money hungry VC on your back?  People make the mistake thinking that VC money is free.  Yes VC money reduces your risk, but the agreement/contract you are going to sign is always going to be in the VCs favor.  Want to change your business plan or sellout at a low bid, well you will have to get permission from your VC first.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents, I really do not like TC’s mentality that every website (1.0, 2.0 whatever) needs VC money to be successful.  Hey Mike why don’t you highlight self funded startups from time to time (hint hint).  Maybe you do, but whenever I visited your site I see the word million or facebook in almost every story.</p>
<p>Here is a video highlighting those who did not seek VC support and look where they are at now.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myvidster.com/video/2629" rel="nofollow">http://www.myvidster.com/video/2629</a></p>
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