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	<title>Comments on: Zed Shaw Puts The Smack Down On The Rails Community</title>
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		<title>By: El Geek Errante &#183; El Geek Errante: transmisión #28</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Geek Errante &#183; El Geek Errante: transmisión #28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rant de Zed Shaw (creador de Mongrel) sobre Ruby y su comunidad de &#8220;PHP [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Twitter Said To Be Abandoning Ruby on Rails &#171; Tecno Week</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-2248153</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter Said To Be Abandoning Ruby on Rails &#171; Tecno Week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 07:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the core community members and creator of the popular Rails web server Mongrel abandoned rails and trashed the community.CrunchBase InformationTwitterInformation provided by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Twitter Said To Be Abandoning Ruby on Rails</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-2245715</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter Said To Be Abandoning Ruby on Rails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the core community members and creator of the popular Rails web server Mongrel abandoned rails and trashed the community.   CrunchBase Information   Twitter  Information provided by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Melvin Ram</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1923261</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was kind of like seeing a place burn. The big flames might look facinating at first... but in the end, I just find it disturbing and sad. I wish him well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was kind of like seeing a place burn. The big flames might look facinating at first&#8230; but in the end, I just find it disturbing and sad. I wish him well.</p>
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		<title>By: Zed Shaw Puts The Smack Down On The Rails Community : Selfkleptomaniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zed Shaw Puts The Smack Down On The Rails Community : Selfkleptomaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zed Shaw Puts The Smack Down On The Rails Community: Most entertaining quote: “This is exactly what makes Rails a ghetto. A bunch of half-trained [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1915284</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zed.

an advice.

write a "how to do good ruby coding" of something like that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zed.</p>
<p>an advice.</p>
<p>write a &#8220;how to do good ruby coding&#8221; of something like that</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1905393</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I mean business when I say I’ll take anyone on who wants to fight me."
*sigh*
So rarely do we get to see good programmer-on-programmer combat these days. 

@Gubatron: there's already a framework for Python called Django that generated a buzz a little while back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I mean business when I say I’ll take anyone on who wants to fight me.&#8221;<br />
*sigh*<br />
So rarely do we get to see good programmer-on-programmer combat these days. </p>
<p>@Gubatron: there&#8217;s already a framework for Python called Django that generated a buzz a little while back.</p>
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		<title>By: Eman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1904713</link>
		<dc:creator>Eman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow..it's great for someone to actually step up and say what a farce Rails is.  Does anyone know of any serious website that actually uses Rails...Basecamp?  you kidding...Sharepoint is more impressive as an app.

I spent a year basically killing my career as well trying to get a Rails app running because our investor thought it was so hot.  Holy shit...a complete disaster.  If anyone has _real_ successes...then chime in.  I want to hear "Dude, I made $5M on my Rails webapp...we produced code 10x faster than everyone else and made a mint" 

Instead I hear the general "Hey I can do Hello World in ten lines of code".  the problem is simple:
1) No compiler - this means that you get to remember everything in your head...change this, break that....lots of fun when you have customers down
2) Crap threading - this has all the problems that a web app without threading brings
3) Crap performance - not only is Ruby slow...but you have to improve performance with caching....for God's sake   wtf wants to cache dynamic content..why can't stuff just work.
4) Nightmare to manage - This is the worst....its like working on live electricity all the time...its terrifying to deploy new code because how much testing can a startup really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow..it&#8217;s great for someone to actually step up and say what a farce Rails is.  Does anyone know of any serious website that actually uses Rails&#8230;Basecamp?  you kidding&#8230;Sharepoint is more impressive as an app.</p>
<p>I spent a year basically killing my career as well trying to get a Rails app running because our investor thought it was so hot.  Holy shit&#8230;a complete disaster.  If anyone has _real_ successes&#8230;then chime in.  I want to hear &#8220;Dude, I made $5M on my Rails webapp&#8230;we produced code 10x faster than everyone else and made a mint&#8221; </p>
<p>Instead I hear the general &#8220;Hey I can do Hello World in ten lines of code&#8221;.  the problem is simple:<br />
1) No compiler - this means that you get to remember everything in your head&#8230;change this, break that&#8230;.lots of fun when you have customers down<br />
2) Crap threading - this has all the problems that a web app without threading brings<br />
3) Crap performance - not only is Ruby slow&#8230;but you have to improve performance with caching&#8230;.for God&#8217;s sake   wtf wants to cache dynamic content..why can&#8217;t stuff just work.<br />
4) Nightmare to manage - This is the worst&#8230;.its like working on live electricity all the time&#8230;its terrifying to deploy new code because how much testing can a startup really do.</p>
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		<title>By: Rails is NOT dead!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1903301</link>
		<dc:creator>Rails is NOT dead!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any language/framework that saves a developer 10x time over Java is A++++ in my book.  The Framework's already good enough and doesn't need to be bloated like others.

My only complaint about Rails is that the &lt;a href="wiki.rubyonrails.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;rails wiki&lt;/a&gt; needs to be monitored better because it's become (if I dare say) Ghetto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any language/framework that saves a developer 10x time over Java is A++++ in my book.  The Framework&#8217;s already good enough and doesn&#8217;t need to be bloated like others.</p>
<p>My only complaint about Rails is that the <a href="wiki.rubyonrails.com" rel="nofollow">rails wiki</a> needs to be monitored better because it&#8217;s become (if I dare say) Ghetto.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1899951</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Dewey: "There was a time this was called low self esteem"

Those times were wrong.  Read the post again, and tell me if all this anger comes because he thinks he's no good at anything, a loser etc (low self esteem), or because he's arrogant and narcicistic (too high self esteem).

This whole self-esteem movement the last 30 years, where we teach kids how special they are (even when they are clearly just average), and that they have to go out and demand their place in the world was bound to create problems like this.
Far too many of them.
That's why the rest of the world is reviling against anglo-saxon cultures, we've created a generation that is just too damned selffish, demanding and think the world owes them.
It's time to switch the emphasis to results, and self-control.  Doesn't look like Zed posseses either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Dewey: &#8220;There was a time this was called low self esteem&#8221;</p>
<p>Those times were wrong.  Read the post again, and tell me if all this anger comes because he thinks he&#8217;s no good at anything, a loser etc (low self esteem), or because he&#8217;s arrogant and narcicistic (too high self esteem).</p>
<p>This whole self-esteem movement the last 30 years, where we teach kids how special they are (even when they are clearly just average), and that they have to go out and demand their place in the world was bound to create problems like this.<br />
Far too many of them.<br />
That&#8217;s why the rest of the world is reviling against anglo-saxon cultures, we&#8217;ve created a generation that is just too damned selffish, demanding and think the world owes them.<br />
It&#8217;s time to switch the emphasis to results, and self-control.  Doesn&#8217;t look like Zed posseses either.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilat</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1899788</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he have some points but we do all know rails is not perfect
the inner reason about this is not about rails but some people on 
ruby community AND zed shaw misunderstanding. Zed used rails because
he LOVES RAILS....peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he have some points but we do all know rails is not perfect<br />
the inner reason about this is not about rails but some people on<br />
ruby community AND zed shaw misunderstanding. Zed used rails because<br />
he LOVES RAILS&#8230;.peace.</p>
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		<title>By: des</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1898633</link>
		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 07:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hire Zed in a heartbeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hire Zed in a heartbeat.</p>
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		<title>By: TechYob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1896137</link>
		<dc:creator>TechYob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Australia we would call this "doing a Mark Latham"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Australia we would call this &#8220;doing a Mark Latham&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: nexusprime</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1896036</link>
		<dc:creator>nexusprime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear.

He is pretty solid technically (Mongrel certainly is clean code), but one can only hope he finds a position he is happy in, in the kind of company that recognizes the contribution he can make.

No-one really wants to work with an asshole that thinks he is better than you. 

Compromise in your working life, and you will find it much easier to start earning serious money and concentrate on things important to you. 

Jobs where you are doing what you love, are well compensated and working with a home-run team are rare, and fleeting (key people always leave, eventually).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear.</p>
<p>He is pretty solid technically (Mongrel certainly is clean code), but one can only hope he finds a position he is happy in, in the kind of company that recognizes the contribution he can make.</p>
<p>No-one really wants to work with an asshole that thinks he is better than you. </p>
<p>Compromise in your working life, and you will find it much easier to start earning serious money and concentrate on things important to you. </p>
<p>Jobs where you are doing what you love, are well compensated and working with a home-run team are rare, and fleeting (key people always leave, eventually).</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895973</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lighten up, Francis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lighten up, Francis.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895966</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"... Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; Any of you guys call me Francis, and I&#8217;ll kill you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike F</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895888</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great humorous start to the New Year but there is more than a grain of truth in what he says, one moment you can be top of the Web and be on all the best invitation lists then next week it's serving McDonalds to go, attitude or no.

Way to go big boy;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great humorous start to the New Year but there is more than a grain of truth in what he says, one moment you can be top of the Web and be on all the best invitation lists then next week it&#8217;s serving McDonalds to go, attitude or no.</p>
<p>Way to go big boy;)</p>
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		<title>By: lc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895729</link>
		<dc:creator>lc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he should move out of the lower east side and to Queens where rents are lower. However, perhaps there are too many cocksuckers there. haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he should move out of the lower east side and to Queens where rents are lower. However, perhaps there are too many cocksuckers there. haha.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895708</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, the man's got passion. he obviously cares very much about his work, as the best coders always do.

with or without the rant, employers like google should be begging zed to come work for them. the fact that they're not says something about our hr depts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, the man&#8217;s got passion. he obviously cares very much about his work, as the best coders always do.</p>
<p>with or without the rant, employers like google should be begging zed to come work for them. the fact that they&#8217;re not says something about our hr depts.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott M.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895690</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rails hit the "koolaid point" a long time ago. This is to be expected.

http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/08/physics_of_pass.html

Still, Zed's post is filled with such vitriol and is so adolescent, I'm not sure why it's being given space on TechCrunch (except maybe because it's a slow tech news week). Constructive criticism about a framework or technology, even if impassioned, can be useful and is welcomed. Personal attacks tend to weaken one's position (even if amusing to some of you). I'm guessing if you were on the receiving end of Zed's rant you wouldn't be too happy about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rails hit the &#8220;koolaid point&#8221; a long time ago. This is to be expected.</p>
<p><a href="http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/08/physics_of_pass.html" rel="nofollow">http://headrush.typepad.com/cr....._pass.html</a></p>
<p>Still, Zed&#8217;s post is filled with such vitriol and is so adolescent, I&#8217;m not sure why it&#8217;s being given space on TechCrunch (except maybe because it&#8217;s a slow tech news week). Constructive criticism about a framework or technology, even if impassioned, can be useful and is welcomed. Personal attacks tend to weaken one&#8217;s position (even if amusing to some of you). I&#8217;m guessing if you were on the receiving end of Zed&#8217;s rant you wouldn&#8217;t be too happy about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marnok</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895686</link>
		<dc:creator>marnok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He doesn't seem all that smart to me. He can't even make his point without cuss words or name calling. The only reason he can't get a job is his larger than life attitude problem and a lack of diplomatic skills.

Typical finger pointer who blames everyone for his problem, except himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn&#8217;t seem all that smart to me. He can&#8217;t even make his point without cuss words or name calling. The only reason he can&#8217;t get a job is his larger than life attitude problem and a lack of diplomatic skills.</p>
<p>Typical finger pointer who blames everyone for his problem, except himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895680</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....wow....

I say... umm... well,... 

Thank you for Mongrel.  Seriously.  If we could afford you, sir, we'd send you an application in a heartbeat.  Although we're not doing anything with it that you'd actually find interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.wow&#8230;.</p>
<p>I say&#8230; umm&#8230; well,&#8230; </p>
<p>Thank you for Mongrel.  Seriously.  If we could afford you, sir, we&#8217;d send you an application in a heartbeat.  Although we&#8217;re not doing anything with it that you&#8217;d actually find interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Socrates</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895642</link>
		<dc:creator>Socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. Nevertheless I don't think Zed get well in the picture in some parts of it (especially when he uses popularity as an argument...), even though he seems to have arguments in other issues.

Just a quick question: why people compare Rails, Ruby on Rails with JAVA, PHP, etc? 

Frameworks are not programming languages (strictly speaking).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. Nevertheless I don&#8217;t think Zed get well in the picture in some parts of it (especially when he uses popularity as an argument&#8230;), even though he seems to have arguments in other issues.</p>
<p>Just a quick question: why people compare Rails, Ruby on Rails with JAVA, PHP, etc? </p>
<p>Frameworks are not programming languages (strictly speaking).</p>
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		<title>By: planetmcd</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895556</link>
		<dc:creator>planetmcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Founder, 
That was funny shit.  Its going up on my wall.

I think the real issue is that no one has called Zed on his ability to rent the ring.  He mentions struggling with bills, and formal fighting accommodations are not cheap.

For the record, I would severely mess up his fist with my face.  The next time we fought, his primary fist would be so sore from my chin, he would need to pummel me with his off hand.

Kidding aside, I am very grateful for his contribution of Mongrel, it makes my deployment life a lot easier.  

Thanks Zed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Founder,<br />
That was funny shit.  Its going up on my wall.</p>
<p>I think the real issue is that no one has called Zed on his ability to rent the ring.  He mentions struggling with bills, and formal fighting accommodations are not cheap.</p>
<p>For the record, I would severely mess up his fist with my face.  The next time we fought, his primary fist would be so sore from my chin, he would need to pummel me with his off hand.</p>
<p>Kidding aside, I am very grateful for his contribution of Mongrel, it makes my deployment life a lot easier.  </p>
<p>Thanks Zed.</p>
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		<title>By: Gubatron</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/#comment-1895551</link>
		<dc:creator>Gubatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will he start now doing python on rails?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will he start now doing python on rails?</p>
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