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	<title>Comments on: Zed Shaw Puts The Smack Down On The Rails Community</title>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the game &quot;tell the truth&quot; is &quot;cool&quot; this guy sounds like a real asshole totally full of himself and someone who does not take well criticism.

I would not hire a person like him even if I was drunk, even if he would work for free. Too many fish in the sea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the game &#8220;tell the truth&#8221; is &#8220;cool&#8221; this guy sounds like a real asshole totally full of himself and someone who does not take well criticism.</p>
<p>I would not hire a person like him even if I was drunk, even if he would work for free. Too many fish in the sea.</p>
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		<title>By: Pirater n&#8217;est pas voler, mais&#8230; at vedovini.net</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2790327</link>
		<dc:creator>Pirater n&#8217;est pas voler, mais&#8230; at vedovini.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] se remettent mal d&#8217;avoir adopté le logiciel libre comme manière de vivre (comme Zed Shaw, créateur de [...]</description>
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		<title>By: vn44ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>vn44ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post!  It is totally OK to vent out once in a while. After all living among monkeys is just hard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post!  It is totally OK to vent out once in a while. After all living among monkeys is just hard!</p>
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		<title>By: FireBrand</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2737411</link>
		<dc:creator>FireBrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to laugh at his comment about Google.  Really Google, who do you hire other than clones?  I know people who were key to creating the internet as we know it today who you have offered junior positions to.  These are people who did things in the industry, serious things, and Google disses them.

I can&#039;t fathom their hiring practices.

I also can&#039;t fathom their stock price.  Has anyone noticed that AdSense is now paying like 15% of what it was a year ago?  That&#039;s a huge drop in revenue, and yet the stock price is still up there.  Either that or Google is just using the economic downturn as a way to screw the little sites out there. :-)

Anyway I enjoyed the rant.  Though I have to agree with some.  If you are so freaking good why are you wasting your time doing things for other?  Do it yourself and reap the rewards.  Get your  head out of the socialist open software society and into some real honest to god capitalism and make your millions if you are that good.  Then go back to giving away your time for nothing, at least then you don&#039;t have to live in your parents basement anylonger...

Wake up and Smell the Coffee....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to laugh at his comment about Google.  Really Google, who do you hire other than clones?  I know people who were key to creating the internet as we know it today who you have offered junior positions to.  These are people who did things in the industry, serious things, and Google disses them.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t fathom their hiring practices.</p>
<p>I also can&#8217;t fathom their stock price.  Has anyone noticed that AdSense is now paying like 15% of what it was a year ago?  That&#8217;s a huge drop in revenue, and yet the stock price is still up there.  Either that or Google is just using the economic downturn as a way to screw the little sites out there. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway I enjoyed the rant.  Though I have to agree with some.  If you are so freaking good why are you wasting your time doing things for other?  Do it yourself and reap the rewards.  Get your  head out of the socialist open software society and into some real honest to god capitalism and make your millions if you are that good.  Then go back to giving away your time for nothing, at least then you don&#8217;t have to live in your parents basement anylonger&#8230;</p>
<p>Wake up and Smell the Coffee&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2680202</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve dealt with many people like this over my career and there is one main reason why they don&#039;t get jobs; To be an good employee you need to be good at working with others.  If you&#039;re a loner/psycho, it doesn&#039;t mean shit if you a great &quot;computer scientist&quot;, because interaction between people is what makes projects a success.

If google did, truely offer him a job, then they should thank their lucky stars that he turned it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve dealt with many people like this over my career and there is one main reason why they don&#8217;t get jobs; To be an good employee you need to be good at working with others.  If you&#8217;re a loner/psycho, it doesn&#8217;t mean shit if you a great &#8220;computer scientist&#8221;, because interaction between people is what makes projects a success.</p>
<p>If google did, truely offer him a job, then they should thank their lucky stars that he turned it down.</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m Learning Ruby &#124; tylerjameslee.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2598085</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m Learning Ruby &#124; tylerjameslee.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] buzzword. Anyways, while doing some googling on ruby I came across this hilarious piece from Michael Arrington.  It&#8217;s a year old but I&#8217;m pretty sure the web guys out there will find it pretty [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] buzzword. Anyways, while doing some googling on ruby I came across this hilarious piece from Michael Arrington.  It&#8217;s a year old but I&#8217;m pretty sure the web guys out there will find it pretty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2563115</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A year later and I just saw a recent blog post referencing this fiasco.  I would&#039;ve probably been better off having never known about it, but my curiosity got the best of me w/ the backstory here.

In conclusion...

Zed is not JWZ.

Mongrel is not Netscape/Mozilla.

Web 2.0 and RoR would&#039;ve still worked w/out his contributions.

Overuse of &quot;cock sucker&quot; reveals Freudian undertones.

Some people self-destruct over equating job titles to success.

We can&#039;t spew vitriol and then pull the &quot;j/k&quot; parachute cord like in 8th grade.

The &quot;I&#039;d rather be hated than ignored&quot; argument is very Mansonites circa &#039;98.

Archive.org will forever bite us in the ass when employers, banks, landlords, partners and family members do any form of background checking.

This public breakdown is the tech industry equivalent of doing porn.  You can never turn back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year later and I just saw a recent blog post referencing this fiasco.  I would&#8217;ve probably been better off having never known about it, but my curiosity got the best of me w/ the backstory here.</p>
<p>In conclusion&#8230;</p>
<p>Zed is not JWZ.</p>
<p>Mongrel is not Netscape/Mozilla.</p>
<p>Web 2.0 and RoR would&#8217;ve still worked w/out his contributions.</p>
<p>Overuse of &#8220;cock sucker&#8221; reveals Freudian undertones.</p>
<p>Some people self-destruct over equating job titles to success.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t spew vitriol and then pull the &#8220;j/k&#8221; parachute cord like in 8th grade.</p>
<p>The &#8220;I&#8217;d rather be hated than ignored&#8221; argument is very Mansonites circa &#8216;98.</p>
<p>Archive.org will forever bite us in the ass when employers, banks, landlords, partners and family members do any form of background checking.</p>
<p>This public breakdown is the tech industry equivalent of doing porn.  You can never turn back.</p>
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		<title>By: toddreys</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2529635</link>
		<dc:creator>toddreys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a Jerk! This guy has no class!</description>
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		<title>By: Ricardo Rincón</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2528171</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardo Rincón</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why dont you try to make a piece of art like David HH did?.</description>
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		<title>By: El Geek Errante &#183; El Geek Errante: transmisión #28</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2397108</link>
		<dc:creator>El Geek Errante &#183; El Geek Errante: transmisión #28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rant de Zed Shaw (creador de Mongrel) sobre Ruby y su comunidad de &#8220;PHP [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Twitter Said To Be Abandoning Ruby on Rails &#171; Tecno Week</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2248153</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter Said To Be Abandoning Ruby on Rails &#171; Tecno Week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 07:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the core community members and creator of the popular Rails web server Mongrel abandoned rails and trashed the community.CrunchBase InformationTwitterInformation provided by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Twitter Said To Be Abandoning Ruby on Rails</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-2245715</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter Said To Be Abandoning Ruby on Rails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the core community members and creator of the popular Rails web server Mongrel abandoned rails and trashed the community.   CrunchBase Information   Twitter  Information provided by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Melvin Ram</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1923261</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was kind of like seeing a place burn. The big flames might look facinating at first... but in the end, I just find it disturbing and sad. I wish him well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was kind of like seeing a place burn. The big flames might look facinating at first&#8230; but in the end, I just find it disturbing and sad. I wish him well.</p>
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		<title>By: Zed Shaw Puts The Smack Down On The Rails Community : Selfkleptomaniac</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1918123</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed Shaw Puts The Smack Down On The Rails Community : Selfkleptomaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zed Shaw Puts The Smack Down On The Rails Community: Most entertaining quote: “This is exactly what makes Rails a ghetto. A bunch of half-trained [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1915284</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zed.

an advice.

write a &quot;how to do good ruby coding&quot; of something like that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zed.</p>
<p>an advice.</p>
<p>write a &#8220;how to do good ruby coding&#8221; of something like that</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1905393</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I mean business when I say I’ll take anyone on who wants to fight me.&quot;
*sigh*
So rarely do we get to see good programmer-on-programmer combat these days. 

@Gubatron: there&#039;s already a framework for Python called Django that generated a buzz a little while back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I mean business when I say I’ll take anyone on who wants to fight me.&#8221;<br />
*sigh*<br />
So rarely do we get to see good programmer-on-programmer combat these days. </p>
<p>@Gubatron: there&#8217;s already a framework for Python called Django that generated a buzz a little while back.</p>
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		<title>By: Eman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1904713</link>
		<dc:creator>Eman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow..it&#039;s great for someone to actually step up and say what a farce Rails is.  Does anyone know of any serious website that actually uses Rails...Basecamp?  you kidding...Sharepoint is more impressive as an app.

I spent a year basically killing my career as well trying to get a Rails app running because our investor thought it was so hot.  Holy shit...a complete disaster.  If anyone has _real_ successes...then chime in.  I want to hear &quot;Dude, I made $5M on my Rails webapp...we produced code 10x faster than everyone else and made a mint&quot; 

Instead I hear the general &quot;Hey I can do Hello World in ten lines of code&quot;.  the problem is simple:
1) No compiler - this means that you get to remember everything in your head...change this, break that....lots of fun when you have customers down
2) Crap threading - this has all the problems that a web app without threading brings
3) Crap performance - not only is Ruby slow...but you have to improve performance with caching....for God&#039;s sake   wtf wants to cache dynamic content..why can&#039;t stuff just work.
4) Nightmare to manage - This is the worst....its like working on live electricity all the time...its terrifying to deploy new code because how much testing can a startup really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow..it&#8217;s great for someone to actually step up and say what a farce Rails is.  Does anyone know of any serious website that actually uses Rails&#8230;Basecamp?  you kidding&#8230;Sharepoint is more impressive as an app.</p>
<p>I spent a year basically killing my career as well trying to get a Rails app running because our investor thought it was so hot.  Holy shit&#8230;a complete disaster.  If anyone has _real_ successes&#8230;then chime in.  I want to hear &#8220;Dude, I made $5M on my Rails webapp&#8230;we produced code 10x faster than everyone else and made a mint&#8221; </p>
<p>Instead I hear the general &#8220;Hey I can do Hello World in ten lines of code&#8221;.  the problem is simple:<br />
1) No compiler &#8211; this means that you get to remember everything in your head&#8230;change this, break that&#8230;.lots of fun when you have customers down<br />
2) Crap threading &#8211; this has all the problems that a web app without threading brings<br />
3) Crap performance &#8211; not only is Ruby slow&#8230;but you have to improve performance with caching&#8230;.for God&#8217;s sake   wtf wants to cache dynamic content..why can&#8217;t stuff just work.<br />
4) Nightmare to manage &#8211; This is the worst&#8230;.its like working on live electricity all the time&#8230;its terrifying to deploy new code because how much testing can a startup really do.</p>
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		<title>By: Rails is NOT dead!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rails is NOT dead!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any language/framework that saves a developer 10x time over Java is A++++ in my book.  The Framework&#039;s already good enough and doesn&#039;t need to be bloated like others.

My only complaint about Rails is that the &lt;a href=&quot;wiki.rubyonrails.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rails wiki&lt;/a&gt; needs to be monitored better because it&#039;s become (if I dare say) Ghetto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any language/framework that saves a developer 10x time over Java is A++++ in my book.  The Framework&#8217;s already good enough and doesn&#8217;t need to be bloated like others.</p>
<p>My only complaint about Rails is that the <a href="wiki.rubyonrails.com" rel="nofollow">rails wiki</a> needs to be monitored better because it&#8217;s become (if I dare say) Ghetto.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Dewey: &quot;There was a time this was called low self esteem&quot;

Those times were wrong.  Read the post again, and tell me if all this anger comes because he thinks he&#039;s no good at anything, a loser etc (low self esteem), or because he&#039;s arrogant and narcicistic (too high self esteem).

This whole self-esteem movement the last 30 years, where we teach kids how special they are (even when they are clearly just average), and that they have to go out and demand their place in the world was bound to create problems like this.
Far too many of them.
That&#039;s why the rest of the world is reviling against anglo-saxon cultures, we&#039;ve created a generation that is just too damned selffish, demanding and think the world owes them.
It&#039;s time to switch the emphasis to results, and self-control.  Doesn&#039;t look like Zed posseses either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Dewey: &#8220;There was a time this was called low self esteem&#8221;</p>
<p>Those times were wrong.  Read the post again, and tell me if all this anger comes because he thinks he&#8217;s no good at anything, a loser etc (low self esteem), or because he&#8217;s arrogant and narcicistic (too high self esteem).</p>
<p>This whole self-esteem movement the last 30 years, where we teach kids how special they are (even when they are clearly just average), and that they have to go out and demand their place in the world was bound to create problems like this.<br />
Far too many of them.<br />
That&#8217;s why the rest of the world is reviling against anglo-saxon cultures, we&#8217;ve created a generation that is just too damned selffish, demanding and think the world owes them.<br />
It&#8217;s time to switch the emphasis to results, and self-control.  Doesn&#8217;t look like Zed posseses either.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilat</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1899788</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he have some points but we do all know rails is not perfect
the inner reason about this is not about rails but some people on 
ruby community AND zed shaw misunderstanding. Zed used rails because
he LOVES RAILS....peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he have some points but we do all know rails is not perfect<br />
the inner reason about this is not about rails but some people on<br />
ruby community AND zed shaw misunderstanding. Zed used rails because<br />
he LOVES RAILS&#8230;.peace.</p>
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		<title>By: des</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1898633</link>
		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 07:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hire Zed in a heartbeat.</description>
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		<title>By: TechYob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1896137</link>
		<dc:creator>TechYob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Australia we would call this &quot;doing a Mark Latham&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: nexusprime</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1896036</link>
		<dc:creator>nexusprime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear.

He is pretty solid technically (Mongrel certainly is clean code), but one can only hope he finds a position he is happy in, in the kind of company that recognizes the contribution he can make.

No-one really wants to work with an asshole that thinks he is better than you. 

Compromise in your working life, and you will find it much easier to start earning serious money and concentrate on things important to you. 

Jobs where you are doing what you love, are well compensated and working with a home-run team are rare, and fleeting (key people always leave, eventually).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear.</p>
<p>He is pretty solid technically (Mongrel certainly is clean code), but one can only hope he finds a position he is happy in, in the kind of company that recognizes the contribution he can make.</p>
<p>No-one really wants to work with an asshole that thinks he is better than you. </p>
<p>Compromise in your working life, and you will find it much easier to start earning serious money and concentrate on things important to you. </p>
<p>Jobs where you are doing what you love, are well compensated and working with a home-run team are rare, and fleeting (key people always leave, eventually).</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1895973</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lighten up, Francis.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/zed-shaw-puts-the-smack-down-on-the-rails-community/comment-page-3/#comment-1895966</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... Any of you guys call me Francis, and I&#039;ll kill you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; Any of you guys call me Francis, and I&#8217;ll kill you.&#8221;</p>
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