Comments on: WebGuild Using Questionable Tactics To Promote Events http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:34:44 -0800 hourly 1 By: Tim Orielly http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1945047 Tim Orielly Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:29:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1945047 I am Tim Orielly, shall i sue Tim from O'Reilly for using my name?? This is sick. As he himself says, its just a concept and nothing else. Moreover, MSFT and big companies are using web2.0 just for marketting purpose and nothing.. if you could go to a conferecne and pay $199 and hear the same thing from the same speaker instead of paying $2900 - which event would you go to?? I think non-profit organizations like Web Guild is a must. I am Tim Orielly, shall i sue Tim from O’Reilly for using my name??
This is sick. As he himself says, its just a concept and nothing else. Moreover, MSFT and big companies are using web2.0 just for marketting purpose and nothing..

if you could go to a conferecne and pay $199 and hear the same thing from the same speaker instead of paying $2900 – which event would you go to??

I think non-profit organizations like Web Guild is a must.

]]> By: CanCar http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1926224 CanCar Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:36:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1926224 The main idea of those comments was to gain publicity FREE, because without concerning what she was said in each one of the comments she mentioned "Web 2.0" repeatedly. Although I am in agree with the previous comment, is lack of ethics. The main idea of those comments was to gain publicity FREE, because without concerning what she was said in each one of the comments she mentioned “Web 2.0″ repeatedly. Although I am in agree with the previous comment, is lack of ethics.

]]> By: Mike http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1919674 Mike Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:43:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1919674 True, but that's still no excuse for Daya to be so unethical. I think the final results of their events end up positive, but the way Daya gets there is far from professional. True, but that’s still no excuse for Daya to be so unethical.
I think the final results of their events end up positive, but the way Daya gets there is far from professional.

]]> By: Brendan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1899847 Brendan Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:42:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1899847 In all fairness, the Web Guild is a non-profit organization that holds monthly forums for web professionals to learn and network, while the other conferences mentioned are for profit. In all fairness, the Web Guild is a non-profit organization that holds monthly forums for web professionals to learn and network, while the other conferences mentioned are for profit.

]]> By: Gruuvie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1898572 Gruuvie Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:59:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1898572 So is someone going to do anything about this imposter? Daya is simply using this facade of an event as a front for his company. I'd be interested in knowing how his company Gruuvu or Gruouve or whatever is coincidentally a sponsor of this conference? So is someone going to do anything about this imposter? Daya is simply using this facade of an event as a front for his company. I’d be interested in knowing how his company Gruuvu or Gruouve or whatever is coincidentally a sponsor of this conference?

]]> By: Jennifer Pahlka http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1896629 Jennifer Pahlka Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:51:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1896629 One minor correction to Mike's story. I'm the general manager for the web 2.0 events at CMP, and I am the one who's been repeatedly emailing and calling Daya about the name confusion. Daya knows fully well that I represent both O'Reilly and CMP in this; we've had previous (friendly) discussions. So when he says that he was not aware that O'Reilly had been trying to contact him, it's misleading. My emails to him start back in October. One minor correction to Mike’s story. I’m the general manager for the web 2.0 events at CMP, and I am the one who’s been repeatedly emailing and calling Daya about the name confusion. Daya knows fully well that I represent both O’Reilly and CMP in this; we’ve had previous (friendly) discussions. So when he says that he was not aware that O’Reilly had been trying to contact him, it’s misleading. My emails to him start back in October.

]]> By: Technicle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1896435 Technicle Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:50:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1896435 change it to Web 3.0 :-) change it to Web 3.0 :-)

]]> By: Mauricio http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1896278 Mauricio Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:24:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1896278 the best techpunch is scoble's: "sam: no, the highlight of my career will be tomorrow when I interview Doug Engelbart, inventor of the mouse." I like scoble's view of technology and life: every day is a new better day! as for the web 2.0 thing, the guild guys should really change the name. SHAME ON YOU! - techpunched! the best techpunch is scoble’s:

“sam: no, the highlight of my career will be tomorrow when I interview Doug Engelbart, inventor of the mouse.”

I like scoble’s view of technology and life: every day is a new better day!

as for the web 2.0 thing, the guild guys should really change the name. SHAME ON YOU! – techpunched!

]]> By: Daniel http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1896010 Daniel Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:30:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1896010 I agree with steve... the blame here falls on the sponsors more than anyone. The big ones (Google and Sun at least) have been sponsors for the "real" events, and they should really be doing their homework before agreeing to sponsor these events. That said, the test now is how the sponsors react when confronted with the fact that they're sponsoring events with unethical practices. I agree with steve… the blame here falls on the sponsors more than anyone. The big ones (Google and Sun at least) have been sponsors for the “real” events, and they should really be doing their homework before agreeing to sponsor these events.

That said, the test now is how the sponsors react when confronted with the fact that they’re sponsoring events with unethical practices.

]]> By: alex piner http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1896001 alex piner Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:26:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1896001 bah, I am glad you "showcased" the Webguild events, as the speakers as GREAT folks in my mind, and the cost is a wee bit better than the orielly/carlson gang charges.. and Brad Neuberg is on point for working with Engelbart on "webifying" the Open HyperDoc System http://hyperscope.org/ cool, Scoble get to pimp Doug Engelbart (greatest Inventor ever, as his motivation is to solve "wicked problems", not have a bigger bank account, and his team at ARC at SRI did waay more than the mouse) bah, I am glad you “showcased” the Webguild events, as the speakers as GREAT folks in my mind, and the cost is a wee bit better than the orielly/carlson gang charges..

and Brad Neuberg is on point for working with Engelbart on “webifying” the Open HyperDoc System http://hyperscope.org/

cool, Scoble get to pimp Doug Engelbart (greatest Inventor ever, as his motivation is to solve “wicked problems”, not have a bigger bank account, and his team at ARC at SRI did waay more than the mouse)

]]> By: Amit http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1895931 Amit Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:40:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895931 Love the TechPunched name... look out for a fake news spoof on tech crunch... how bout PushYourAgendaWithoutDisclaimer.com too long... techpunched it is! Love the TechPunched name…
look out for a fake news spoof on tech crunch…

how bout PushYourAgendaWithoutDisclaimer.com

too long… techpunched it is!

]]> By: steve http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1895919 steve Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:21:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895919 why are big brands sponsoring this event....they should pull the plug and punish these guys for cheating, spamming dirty tricks why are big brands sponsoring this event….they should pull the plug and punish these guys for cheating, spamming dirty tricks

]]> By: Calvin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1895881 Calvin Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:45:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895881 Legal? Yes. Good ethics? No. Good way to make a quick buck? Yes! Legal? Yes.
Good ethics? No.
Good way to make a quick buck? Yes!

]]> By: jamboree http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1895833 jamboree Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:02:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895833 Scoble, I have heard Egelbart speak and he usually speaks in concepts that are very hard to wrap your head around. So good luck in making the interview the highlight of your career. (A hint: try to be specific in your questions). Engelbart's talks reminds me a little of Steve Jurvetson - but I think Steve intentionally talks above his audience to make him look smart. LOL Scoble,

I have heard Egelbart speak and he usually speaks in concepts that are very hard to wrap your head around. So good luck in making the interview the highlight of your career. (A hint: try to be specific in your questions).

Engelbart’s talks reminds me a little of Steve Jurvetson – but I think Steve intentionally talks above his audience to make him look smart. LOL

]]> By: sam http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1895825 sam Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:55:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895825 robert no really, the highlight of your career was at podtech...or being in line to get an iphone in palo alto. best, sam robert
no really, the highlight of your career was at podtech…or being in line to get an iphone in palo alto.
best,
sam

]]> By: Robert Scoble http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1895809 Robert Scoble Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:45:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895809 sam: no, the highlight of my career will be tomorrow when I interview Doug Engelbart, inventor of the mouse. sam: no, the highlight of my career will be tomorrow when I interview Doug Engelbart, inventor of the mouse.

]]> By: sam http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1895783 sam Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:27:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895783 # Robert Scoble January 1st, 2008 at 10:32 pm Absolutely NOT OK. I’m removing any trace of these guys from my Upcoming Event Calendar that I keep at http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user/138148/ Robert who really gives a shit what you think really...just go back to san jose since working at msft was the high light of your career. best, sam # Robert Scoble

January 1st, 2008 at 10:32 pm

Absolutely NOT OK. I’m removing any trace of these guys from my Upcoming Event Calendar that I keep at http://upcoming...om/user/138148/

Robert who really gives a shit what you think really…just go back to san jose since working at msft was the high light of your career.
best,
sam

]]> By: Carl http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-2/#comment-1895781 Carl Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:26:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895781 mike competition is good... mike
competition is good…

]]> By: TruthQuest http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1895751 TruthQuest Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:00:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895751 Like someone said in the comments above, it seems like this guy Daya is using WebGuild as a platform to promote his company Gruuve (sick!) and also to garner exposure and free PR for himself and his company. The fact that he has been spamming everyone and also posting comments of self-promotion using the same IP address tells a lot about the underhand nature of his outfit(s). I'm deeply connected in SV and will contact my network at Google et al, to stop engaging with WebGuild and with Daya. Amen. Like someone said in the comments above, it seems like this guy Daya is using WebGuild as a platform to promote his company Gruuve (sick!) and also to garner exposure and free PR for himself and his company. The fact that he has been spamming everyone and also posting comments of self-promotion using the same IP address tells a lot about the underhand nature of his outfit(s). I’m deeply connected in SV and will contact my network at Google et al, to stop engaging with WebGuild and with Daya.
Amen.

]]> By: AnonTroll http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1895746 AnonTroll Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:56:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895746 Congratulations, you've been TechPunched! Congratulations, you’ve been TechPunched!

]]> By: Rookie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1895721 Rookie Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:39:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895721 Daya is very unethical in the manner in which he runs both Gruuve and Webguild. He is notorious for being shady and not honoring his commitments. It is about time he has been shown for what he is absolute scum. Thanks TC for showing the tech community who this a**hole is. Daya is very unethical in the manner in which he runs both Gruuve and Webguild. He is notorious for being shady and not honoring his commitments. It is about time he has been shown for what he is absolute scum. Thanks TC for showing the tech community who this a**hole is.

]]> By: David http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1895659 David Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:59:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895659 #33 Jeremy. When I got my first email(s) from WebGuild, I figured others were getting it as well. Since they ignore my requests to unsubscribe, and I never subscribed in the first place, I had a spam block put on their newsletters which was distributed to thousands of MailFoundry servers world wide on the next 5 minute update. Even though this guy runs a legitimate industry show, he's still spamming by definition. #33 Jeremy. When I got my first email(s) from WebGuild, I figured others were getting it as well. Since they ignore my requests to unsubscribe, and I never subscribed in the first place, I had a spam block put on their newsletters which was distributed to thousands of MailFoundry servers world wide on the next 5 minute update. Even though this guy runs a legitimate industry show, he’s still spamming by definition.

]]> By: Technicle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1895656 Technicle Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:58:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895656 In other words, it (the "Web 2.0" trademark) is owned by CMP (and not OReilly) (and perhaps henceforth the co-producing role of each, of THE conference).. In other words, it (the “Web 2.0″ trademark) is owned by CMP (and not OReilly) (and perhaps henceforth the co-producing role of each, of THE conference)..

]]> By: Technicle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1895620 Technicle Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:36:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895620 "Web 2.0" trademark, per USPTO (note "business conferences") -- Word Mark WEB 2.0 Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Arranging and conducting live events, namely, trade shows, expositions and business conferences in various fields, namely, computers, communications, and information technology. FIRST USE: 20041005. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20041005 IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Organizing and conducting educational conferences, tutorials and workshops in the fields of computers, communication and information technology. FIRST USE: 20041005. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20041005 Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 78322306 Filing Date November 3, 2003 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1B Published for Opposition September 13, 2005 Registration Number 3110027 Registration Date June 27, 2006 Owner (REGISTRANT) CMP MEDIA LLC LTD LIAB CO DELAWARE 600 COMMUNITY DRIVE MANHASSET NEW YORK 11030 Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED Attorney of Record Susan L. Heller and Joseph Geisman Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "WEB" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE “Web 2.0″ trademark, per USPTO (note “business conferences”) –

Word Mark WEB 2.0
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Arranging and conducting live events, namely, trade shows, expositions and business conferences in various fields, namely, computers, communications, and information technology. FIRST USE: 20041005. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20041005

IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Organizing and conducting educational conferences, tutorials and workshops in the fields of computers, communication and information technology. FIRST USE: 20041005. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20041005
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 78322306
Filing Date November 3, 2003
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition September 13, 2005
Registration Number 3110027
Registration Date June 27, 2006
Owner (REGISTRANT) CMP MEDIA LLC LTD LIAB CO DELAWARE 600 COMMUNITY DRIVE MANHASSET NEW YORK 11030
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record Susan L. Heller and Joseph Geisman
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE “WEB” APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

]]> By: micfo.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1895617 micfo.com Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:31:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/01/webguild-using-questionable-tactics-to-promote-events/#comment-1895617 Not sure what politics is going on there but I really like the concept behind WebGuild. Not sure what politics is going on there but I really like the concept behind WebGuild.

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