Comments on: Apple Tries To Patent A Way to Avoid Long Lines http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:05:25 -0800 hourly 1 By: order & pay w/your phone | Incubaker http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-2709451 order & pay w/your phone | Incubaker Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:28:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-2709451 [...] TechCrunch writes, Apple has recently filed a patent application for a feature that would allow iPhone users to [...] [...] TechCrunch writes, Apple has recently filed a patent application for a feature that would allow iPhone users to [...]

]]> By: Daniel http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-2695613 Daniel Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:25:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-2695613 great website to order food in bangalore at different locations through bangalore hungryzone great website to order food in bangalore at different locations through bangalore hungryzone

]]> By: Brian Feinstein » NY Tech Meetup Report http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-2567258 Brian Feinstein » NY Tech Meetup Report Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:08:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-2567258 [...] a nice account of their PR work. I am curious if anything comes out of the Apple mobile ordering patent pending because Gomobo seems to be well-positioned in this market. The key will be to build robust Gomobo [...] [...] a nice account of their PR work. I am curious if anything comes out of the Apple mobile ordering patent pending because Gomobo seems to be well-positioned in this market. The key will be to build robust Gomobo [...]

]]> By: order & pay w/your phone | incuTANK: Sharing ideas and innovation. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-2478273 order & pay w/your phone | incuTANK: Sharing ideas and innovation. Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:52:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-2478273 [...] TechCrunch writes, Apple has recently filed a patent application for a feature that would allow iPhone users to [...] [...] TechCrunch writes, Apple has recently filed a patent application for a feature that would allow iPhone users to [...]

]]> By: Skyrize ›› Workshops to improve online experiences » Convincingly Demonstrated http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-2407807 Skyrize ›› Workshops to improve online experiences » Convincingly Demonstrated Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:18:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-2407807 [...] also interesting that my original prototype demonstrates a concept that Apple recently tried to patent. Does anybody else thinks this is a convincing case of prior [...] [...] also interesting that my original prototype demonstrates a concept that Apple recently tried to patent. Does anybody else thinks this is a convincing case of prior [...]

]]> By: [Apple] Universal iPhone IM Patent « techritic http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-2209105 [Apple] Universal iPhone IM Patent « techritic Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:28:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-2209105 [...] has filed a large number of stupid, generic patents, and this is one of them. Not stupid that it won’t work and is a bad idea, [...] [...] has filed a large number of stupid, generic patents, and this is one of them. Not stupid that it won’t work and is a bad idea, [...]

]]> By: dr. no http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-1897236 dr. no Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:41:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1897236 We will be QUITE willing to accept licensing fees from all of you including apple for our idea which is already long under unpublished patent pending protection We will be QUITE willing to accept licensing fees from all of you including apple for our idea which is already long under unpublished patent pending protection

]]> By: al http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-1897112 al Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:08:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1897112 If your job involves you in this you would know that in Europe and Japan, Hong Kong;they are already doing this. Also, Russia is way out in front as well. Why? It's called cash, not credit and most of world is based on this, not a credit card. Your phone will come with NFC enabled applications that you wave in front of a cheap POS device, enter a pin and get a test message for a receipt. (As well as a web based account for reconcilliation) If your job involves you in this you would know that in Europe and Japan, Hong Kong;they are already doing this. Also, Russia is way out in front as well.

Why? It’s called cash, not credit and most of world is based on this, not a credit card.

Your phone will come with NFC enabled applications that you wave in front of a cheap POS device, enter a pin and get a test message for a receipt. (As well as a web based account for reconcilliation)

]]> By: KR http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-1896854 KR Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:12:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1896854 The premise of this application is that people are creatures of habit. So consumers can preset their coffee selection - in the case of JeffC (17)(Grande American, 4 shots, extra room). This user preference can be configured on a web-site for future use. The consumer can then hot key that from their iPhone. The challenges in this business are related to what Todd (15) mentions - the challenge in upselling, and JohnnyL (39) mentions (timing). Apple's entry into the mobile food ordering space should be a boon for consumers. They will also increase awareness of the technology options that are offered by other competitors in the space. My company GetQuik (www.GetQuik.com) offers web, mobile (J2ME, WAP), and widget (iGoogle) ordering to restaurants. We expect Apple to greatly accelerate the growth in mobile/web restaurant ordering, and expect this to be a benefit for our company as well. The premise of this application is that people are creatures of habit. So consumers can preset their coffee selection – in the case of JeffC (17)(Grande American, 4 shots, extra room). This user preference can be configured on a web-site for future use. The consumer can then hot key that from their iPhone. The challenges in this business are related to what Todd (15) mentions – the challenge in upselling, and JohnnyL (39) mentions (timing).

Apple’s entry into the mobile food ordering space should be a boon for consumers. They will also increase awareness of the technology options that are offered by other competitors in the space.

My company GetQuik (www.GetQuik.com) offers web, mobile (J2ME, WAP), and widget (iGoogle) ordering to restaurants. We expect Apple to greatly accelerate the growth in mobile/web restaurant ordering, and expect this to be a benefit for our company as well.

]]> By: Bob http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-1895923 Bob Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:23:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1895923 Seriously guys, it's a phone. You can call an in order with it. Seriously guys, it’s a phone. You can call an in order with it.

]]> By: dr. no http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-2/#comment-1893633 dr. no Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:34:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1893633 Too labor intensive for both the cell phone user and the poor order preparer…then they have to match up order to you when you finally show up…and a payment will have to be made AND verified or you ain't leaving the premises, bub!…there is so much more to say…but this is a huge flop. Just call the coffee shop, give them your order and put it on your tab or have your credit/debit card on file with them, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! There will be plenty of cold coffee/food left too long at the checkout spoiled and plenty of irritated customers upset that joe schmoe ordering from his car cut ahead of him in line. Thumbs DOWN to this "application" Too labor intensive for both the cell phone user and the poor order preparer…then they have to match up order to you when you finally show up…and a payment will have to be made AND verified or you ain’t leaving the premises, bub!…there is so much more to say…but this is a huge flop. Just call the coffee shop, give them your order and put it on your tab or have your credit/debit card on file with them, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! There will be plenty of cold coffee/food left too long at the checkout spoiled and plenty of irritated customers upset that joe schmoe ordering from his car cut ahead of him in line. Thumbs DOWN to this “application”

]]> By: links for 2007-12-30 | Bieber Labs http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1887870 links for 2007-12-30 | Bieber Labs Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:49:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1887870 [...] Apple Tries To Patent A Way to Avoid Long Lines “A recent patent application by Apple hints at a killer future feature that would let iPhone owners bypass long lines by placing orders at coffee shops and other retail outlets right from their phone.” (tags: apple innovation iphone patents mobile) [...] [...] Apple Tries To Patent A Way to Avoid Long Lines “A recent patent application by Apple hints at a killer future feature that would let iPhone owners bypass long lines by placing orders at coffee shops and other retail outlets right from their phone.” (tags: apple innovation iphone patents mobile) [...]

]]> By: Michael http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1886428 Michael Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:45:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1886428 Even though I'm in the young, techy crowd, I still like the old style system where you pay for something immediately as you buy it. Also, this patent is so rediculous. For all we know, a few months after the patent is granted (if that ever happens), some random other company will go out and actually market such an idea, then Apple will sue them, yada yada. Even though I’m in the young, techy crowd, I still like the old style system where you pay for something immediately as you buy it.

Also, this patent is so rediculous. For all we know, a few months after the patent is granted (if that ever happens), some random other company will go out and actually market such an idea, then Apple will sue them, yada yada.

]]> By: Frederick A. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1886035 Frederick A. Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:46:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1886035 Another way for them to monopolize. This is ridiculous. What if everyone wanting to order something, except you has an iPhone, and you're the only one on line. This is unlawful. Another way for them to monopolize. This is ridiculous. What if everyone wanting to order something, except you has an iPhone, and you’re the only one on line. This is unlawful.

]]> By: Funkygorilla http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1884802 Funkygorilla Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:25:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1884802 Apple have packaged a load of existing technologies with this, but isn't this true of many patent applications that get granted in the US. As per comments above, this exists in many countries already, and paypal for example have a payment method for use over a mobile (https://www.paypal.com/?cmd=xpt/cps/mobile/MobileOverview-outside). I guess that they try to patent everything these days, but come on US, you seriously need to sort out your system. Apple have packaged a load of existing technologies with this, but isn’t this true of many patent applications that get granted in the US. As per comments above, this exists in many countries already, and paypal for example have a payment method for use over a mobile (https://www.pay...verview-outside).

I guess that they try to patent everything these days, but come on US, you seriously need to sort out your system.

]]> By: Julie http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1882488 Julie Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:09:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1882488 Circuit City does this already -- unless I'm missing something here? -- as I ordered a digital camera a couple of years of ago, paid online and went straight to the counter to pick it up at the store. So you guys yeah - did I miss something? Circuit City does this already — unless I’m missing something here? — as I ordered a digital camera a couple of years of ago, paid online and went straight to the counter to pick it up at the store.

So you guys yeah – did I miss something?

]]> By: Shelley http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1882483 Shelley Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:06:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1882483 If you want to bypass those lines try using your iphone with something that already exists. E-Strategic Solutions provides online take-out ordering for many restaurants and is adding new ones everyday. The company’s strategy already provides an excellent way to utilize the iphone with a browser based online ordering interface as well as any other mobile device or PC with internet capabilities. If you have ever ordered online take-out from Outback Steakhouse you know first hand how ESS’s solutions work. Also, I checked out a few of the sites that supposedly have a solution and some aren’t even in existence anymore. As an account manager for the company I can say that we have solutions that can enable customers to place orders without ever having to pick up a phone and make a call. It is so simple and the creators designed it that way so that anyone can use it. You don't have to be a tech genius to utilize the system. If you need more information I suggest visiting ESS's website and trying out our demo at www.estrategicsolutions.com or visiting Outback. If you want to bypass those lines try using your iphone with something that already exists. E-Strategic Solutions provides online take-out ordering for many restaurants and is adding new ones everyday. The company’s strategy already provides an excellent way to utilize the iphone with a browser based online ordering interface as well as any other mobile device or PC with internet capabilities. If you have ever ordered online take-out from Outback Steakhouse you know first hand how ESS’s solutions work. Also, I checked out a few of the sites that supposedly have a solution and some aren’t even in existence anymore. As an account manager for the company I can say that we have solutions that can enable customers to place orders without ever having to pick up a phone and make a call. It is so simple and the creators designed it that way so that anyone can use it. You don’t have to be a tech genius to utilize the system. If you need more information I suggest visiting ESS’s website and trying out our demo at http://www.estr...icsolutions.com or visiting Outback.

]]> By: Rod http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1882393 Rod Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:14:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1882393 Not sure if this deserves a patent, but I can't wait for the day I can pay all my business expenses this way. I can then get reimbursed automatically without scanning receipts and filling out forms when I happen to have time (usually when my bank account hits bottom). Not sure if this deserves a patent, but I can’t wait for the day I can pay all my business expenses this way. I can then get reimbursed automatically without scanning receipts and filling out forms when I happen to have time (usually when my bank account hits bottom).

]]> By: AndroidGuys http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1882295 AndroidGuys Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:25:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1882295 @37 But 'the site have many informations' and they 'hope to able to help you'. What's the problem? I ordered a foreign Made-For-AdSense Blog while I was waiting in line to post. It was easy, all I had to do was get out my iPhone. @37 But ‘the site have many informations’ and they ‘hope to able to help you’. What’s the problem?

I ordered a foreign Made-For-AdSense Blog while I was waiting in line to post. It was easy, all I had to do was get out my iPhone.

]]> By: Craig Cockburn http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1882036 Craig Cockburn Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:46:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1882036 More prior art: I devised a similar system like this specifically for use in shopping centres (and it worked with all phones not just iPhones) and it was multi-retailer. It won first prize in a UK wide competition run by one of the UKs largest shopping centres - they were looking for a way to make shopping less stressful. They decided not to progress the idea however I retained the IPR and I am free to implement it anywhere myself, so if there's anyone listening, please get in touch.... More prior art: I devised a similar system like this specifically for use in shopping centres (and it worked with all phones not just iPhones) and it was multi-retailer. It won first prize in a UK wide competition run by one of the UKs largest shopping centres – they were looking for a way to make shopping less stressful. They decided not to progress the idea however I retained the IPR and I am free to implement it anywhere myself, so if there’s anyone listening, please get in touch….

]]> By: Paul Wiffen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1882032 Paul Wiffen Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:44:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1882032 Ran exactly such a system at a music store 5 years using the store account system which people could activate using their mobile phone. Does this mean I can claim all Apple's patent money? Ran exactly such a system at a music store 5 years using the store account system which people could activate using their mobile phone. Does this mean I can claim all Apple’s patent money?

]]> By: ideagrids.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1882031 ideagrids.com Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:44:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1882031 <strong>Use Your Cell Phone To Avoid Lines...</strong> We all knew it was coming… Using your cell phone to avoid long lines in coffee shops, stores, etc. But what else can we use cell phones for? There is a big push lately for mobile software. I have done a couple applications for clients, and I h... Use Your Cell Phone To Avoid Lines…

We all knew it was coming… Using your cell phone to avoid long lines in coffee shops, stores, etc. But what else can we use cell phones for?
There is a big push lately for mobile software. I have done a couple applications for clients, and I h…

]]> By: JohnnyL http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1881974 JohnnyL Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:07:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1881974 I can see the line you wait in to order being replaced by the line you wait in to pick up your order. Coffee (if that crap that Starbucks sells can be called that) quality deteriorates rapidly. wonder how that shit will taste after its been sitting on the counter for 5 minutes if you get delayed? I also wonder if this will speed up the process at all? Without adding additional help just to service the phone orders I don't see how this will speed anything up. I can see the line you wait in to order being replaced by the line you wait in to pick up your order. Coffee (if that crap that Starbucks sells can be called that) quality deteriorates rapidly. wonder how that shit will taste after its been sitting on the counter for 5 minutes if you get delayed? I also wonder if this will speed up the process at all? Without adding additional help just to service the phone orders I don’t see how this will speed anything up.

]]> By: TedC http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1881930 TedC Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:41:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1881930 This is just another example of a bad patent that shouldn't be granted. It's sad how businesses use Trademark and Patents to limit valid competition. My WebThere company started this idea 10yrs ago with CDPD PalmIIIs. Thank goodness for the Patent review process. 2008 will be the beginning. Apple shouldn't be allowed to kill via bad patents. This is just another example of a bad patent that shouldn’t be granted. It’s sad how businesses use Trademark and Patents to limit valid competition. My WebThere company started this idea 10yrs ago with CDPD PalmIIIs. Thank goodness for the Patent review process. 2008 will be the beginning. Apple shouldn’t be allowed to kill via bad patents.

]]> By: caveman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-1881704 caveman Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:43:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/27/apple-tries-to-patent-a-way-to-avoid-long-lines/#comment-1881704 @36, blog spam .. posted all over techcrunch. It's annoying @36, blog spam .. posted all over techcrunch. It’s annoying

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