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	<title>Comments on: Wikia Will Search. But When?</title>
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		<title>By: Wikia Search Is A Complete Letdown.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-2302461</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikia Search Is A Complete Letdown.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about those profiles. As anticipated, Wikia Search is yet another social network. User profiles include basic elements like a photo, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Nagle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1894293</link>
		<dc:creator>John Nagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Wales used &quot;Tampa hotels&quot; as a test case, I tried it on our system, SiteTruth.com. That&#039;s a search with search clutter from bottom-feeders - &quot;landing pages&quot;, directory sites, referrers, and similar web spam. SiteTruth moves most of those down in search results by checking, automatically, &quot;who&#039;s behind this web site?&quot; We do some basic tests for business legitimacy - the things law enforcement and consumer groups tell users to do. This filters out most of the bottom feeders.

SiteTruth is in open alpha test; try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Wales used &#8220;Tampa hotels&#8221; as a test case, I tried it on our system, SiteTruth.com. That&#8217;s a search with search clutter from bottom-feeders &#8211; &#8220;landing pages&#8221;, directory sites, referrers, and similar web spam. SiteTruth moves most of those down in search results by checking, automatically, &#8220;who&#8217;s behind this web site?&#8221; We do some basic tests for business legitimacy &#8211; the things law enforcement and consumer groups tell users to do. This filters out most of the bottom feeders.</p>
<p>SiteTruth is in open alpha test; try it.</p>
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		<title>By: adana oto kiralama</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1881379</link>
		<dc:creator>adana oto kiralama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: adana oto kiralama</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1872404</link>
		<dc:creator>adana oto kiralama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 10:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ali A. Akbar</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1869970</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali A. Akbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikia is returning horrible results.

I think they placed to far a concentration on outdated and international websites. I&#039;m trying to figure out how their linkage to all the wikis has allowed web surfers to surf more efficiently?

I will never use Wikia....ever!

Ali A. Akbar
aliakbar.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikia is returning horrible results.</p>
<p>I think they placed to far a concentration on outdated and international websites. I&#8217;m trying to figure out how their linkage to all the wikis has allowed web surfers to surf more efficiently?</p>
<p>I will never use Wikia&#8230;.ever!</p>
<p>Ali A. Akbar<br />
aliakbar.net</p>
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		<title>By: Darnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 04:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Wales might be an absolute genius but Wikipedia is truly over rated and very poor. 

Now let&#039;s face it and read the comments of certain articles on Wikipedia, now YOU KNOW that there are some kind of manipulation.

They write junk articles about corporations or indivduals that they do not like and nice articles about their partners.

That kind of attittude should be illegal. I do not support that company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Wales might be an absolute genius but Wikipedia is truly over rated and very poor. </p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s face it and read the comments of certain articles on Wikipedia, now YOU KNOW that there are some kind of manipulation.</p>
<p>They write junk articles about corporations or indivduals that they do not like and nice articles about their partners.</p>
<p>That kind of attittude should be illegal. I do not support that company.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1868512</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 04:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eric / 27 : You may be interested in my article:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/dec/06/wikipedia&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Inside, Wikipedia is more like a sweatshop than Santa&#039;s workshop&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric / 27 : You may be interested in my article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/dec/06/wikipedia" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Inside, Wikipedia is more like a sweatshop than Santa&#8217;s workshop&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wikia Search Launches Private Beta; Public Launch January 7</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1868395</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikia Search Launches Private Beta; Public Launch January 7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the waiting appears to be over. Wikipedia/Wikia Founder Jimmy Wales has publicly announced the private beta for Wikia Search - [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the waiting appears to be over. Wikipedia/Wikia Founder Jimmy Wales has publicly announced the private beta for Wikia Search &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1868325</link>
		<dc:creator>Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad idea!

fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad idea!</p>
<p>fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com/</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Locken</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1868252</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Locken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have intervewed Jim Wales, the guy is an absolute genius. The success of wikipedia with very limited resources is amazing.

I think that Wikia is very exciting, when you search for something on wikipedia now you normally find very good external links at the bottom of the article. This sounds like an extention of that concept, with people voting (digg style) / editing the listings to get relevent information to the top. I am sure there will be a few issues, but it should hopefully become self governing like wikipedia is now.

I think I would use both google and wikia for searches, as the content should be relevant and also different on both sites. 

I believe this is more of a risk to Yahoo etc, as googles algorithm makes sense, wikia&#039;s concept makes sense. The other search engines methods seem a bit dated now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have intervewed Jim Wales, the guy is an absolute genius. The success of wikipedia with very limited resources is amazing.</p>
<p>I think that Wikia is very exciting, when you search for something on wikipedia now you normally find very good external links at the bottom of the article. This sounds like an extention of that concept, with people voting (digg style) / editing the listings to get relevent information to the top. I am sure there will be a few issues, but it should hopefully become self governing like wikipedia is now.</p>
<p>I think I would use both google and wikia for searches, as the content should be relevant and also different on both sites. </p>
<p>I believe this is more of a risk to Yahoo etc, as googles algorithm makes sense, wikia&#8217;s concept makes sense. The other search engines methods seem a bit dated now.</p>
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		<title>By: RM</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1868245</link>
		<dc:creator>RM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try TallStreet.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try TallStreet.com</p>
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		<title>By: Planet Malaysia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1868233</link>
		<dc:creator>Planet Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timing is very important. Probably this is the the best time yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timing is very important. Probably this is the the best time yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1867969</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #5 (Guy),

Shameless plug.  Shame on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #5 (Guy),</p>
<p>Shameless plug.  Shame on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Maro</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1867553</link>
		<dc:creator>Maro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris R, I disagree with you. Google hires the top ppl in the their respective fields. In software engineering, quantity does not beat quality. (Additionaly, for a search engine to be fast you need to put a lot of hardware &amp; bandwidth under it, which, unlike o.s. developer&#039;s time is not free.) Of course, if YOU, the lead developer, are a genius, then you can make a dent. To put it another way, if we&#039;d set up a contest where John Carmack + 2 other id programmers went up against 30 o.s. programmers and they had 1 year to create a kick-ass 3D engine, who would you bet your money on? Even given that the o.s. team has 10x as many man-hours available, I&#039;d put my money on id software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris R, I disagree with you. Google hires the top ppl in the their respective fields. In software engineering, quantity does not beat quality. (Additionaly, for a search engine to be fast you need to put a lot of hardware &amp; bandwidth under it, which, unlike o.s. developer&#8217;s time is not free.) Of course, if YOU, the lead developer, are a genius, then you can make a dent. To put it another way, if we&#8217;d set up a contest where John Carmack + 2 other id programmers went up against 30 o.s. programmers and they had 1 year to create a kick-ass 3D engine, who would you bet your money on? Even given that the o.s. team has 10x as many man-hours available, I&#8217;d put my money on id software.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Q:

I posted a longer post about the idea of *human-powered* search here back in February: http://www.interactivedaily.com/category/startup-ideas/

The basic reason that Pagerank is not completely foolproof is that quality is not simply the relevance of a result.  People perceive quality through a variety of mechanisms including juding content, presentation, style, etc.  Information is visually interpreted and then translated and certain ways to present information offer a better user experience and Pagerank doesn&#039;t do a good job of figuring out how 2 results may share a similar relevance for answering a search query but have widly different experiences for users.  If we can start rewarding sites for making sure they have relevant information AND quality presentation, writing, etc. then more power to Wikia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Q:</p>
<p>I posted a longer post about the idea of *human-powered* search here back in February: <a href="http://www.interactivedaily.com/category/startup-ideas/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.interactivedaily.com/category/startup-ideas/'>http://www.inte.../startup-ideas/</a></p>
<p>The basic reason that Pagerank is not completely foolproof is that quality is not simply the relevance of a result.  People perceive quality through a variety of mechanisms including juding content, presentation, style, etc.  Information is visually interpreted and then translated and certain ways to present information offer a better user experience and Pagerank doesn&#8217;t do a good job of figuring out how 2 results may share a similar relevance for answering a search query but have widly different experiences for users.  If we can start rewarding sites for making sure they have relevant information AND quality presentation, writing, etc. then more power to Wikia.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, documents from the Securities And Exchange Commission show that the Grub crawler was sold to Wikia for only $50,000.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/001279.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Revealed: Wikia search bought &quot;Grub&quot; crawler for $50K&lt;/a&gt;

It turned out to be really poor technology in practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, documents from the Securities And Exchange Commission show that the Grub crawler was sold to Wikia for only $50,000.</p>
<p><a href="http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/001279.html" rel="nofollow">Revealed: Wikia search bought &#8220;Grub&#8221; crawler for $50K</a></p>
<p>It turned out to be really poor technology in practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20,

Don&#039;t make arguments from ignorance.

Google gives back incredible amounts to the community.  

Scientific: Not only is the PageRank openly published, and other academics are building upon it, they have a massive research wing which practically pays whole CS departments to generate papers which advance.  For example, MapReduce has revolutionized the way people think about how to approach massively parallelized processing.

Open Source:
Google&#039;s Summer of Code is huge.  It provides money directly to projects, it gets development work done for projects, it generates publicity for many open source projects, and it exposes lots of young bright students to open source.  They&#039;ve recently expanded the effort to even younger students with the Highly Open Participation Contest.

Google employs (pays the bills so that they can keep hacking on open source) a huge number of open source leaders such as Guido Van Rossum (Python) and Moolenaar (VIM).

The new Android is a huge step away from what every other mobile OS (Symbian, Palm OS, OS X, and hundreds of other weak proprietary os&#039;s) offers in that it&#039;s open source.

While the exact structure of their massive filesystems and databases are closed, they release massive amounts of improvements.  For example, look up Google&#039;s recent contribution to MySQL for huge performance-enhancements.

They *bought* Tesseract OCR, improved it, and release it as open source.  It&#039;s now the best open source OCR online today.

Not long ago, they released an improved version of malloc for C. 

Google Web Toolkit, on which Google bases most of all its AJAX development, is completely open source. 

Here&#039;s a list of scores of other programs they&#039;ve released: http://code.google.com/hosting/projects.html

Google Code is a nice, clean, simple way to get free project hosting for thousands of open source projects.

To say Google doesn&#039;t contribute to the community is literally objectively ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make arguments from ignorance.</p>
<p>Google gives back incredible amounts to the community.  </p>
<p>Scientific: Not only is the PageRank openly published, and other academics are building upon it, they have a massive research wing which practically pays whole CS departments to generate papers which advance.  For example, MapReduce has revolutionized the way people think about how to approach massively parallelized processing.</p>
<p>Open Source:<br />
Google&#8217;s Summer of Code is huge.  It provides money directly to projects, it gets development work done for projects, it generates publicity for many open source projects, and it exposes lots of young bright students to open source.  They&#8217;ve recently expanded the effort to even younger students with the Highly Open Participation Contest.</p>
<p>Google employs (pays the bills so that they can keep hacking on open source) a huge number of open source leaders such as Guido Van Rossum (Python) and Moolenaar (VIM).</p>
<p>The new Android is a huge step away from what every other mobile OS (Symbian, Palm OS, OS X, and hundreds of other weak proprietary os&#8217;s) offers in that it&#8217;s open source.</p>
<p>While the exact structure of their massive filesystems and databases are closed, they release massive amounts of improvements.  For example, look up Google&#8217;s recent contribution to MySQL for huge performance-enhancements.</p>
<p>They *bought* Tesseract OCR, improved it, and release it as open source.  It&#8217;s now the best open source OCR online today.</p>
<p>Not long ago, they released an improved version of malloc for C. </p>
<p>Google Web Toolkit, on which Google bases most of all its AJAX development, is completely open source. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a list of scores of other programs they&#8217;ve released: <a href="http://code.google.com/hosting/projects.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://code.google.com/hosting/projects.html'>http://code.goo...g/projects.html</a></p>
<p>Google Code is a nice, clean, simple way to get free project hosting for thousands of open source projects.</p>
<p>To say Google doesn&#8217;t contribute to the community is literally objectively ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Huh Wowza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huh Wowza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, why didn&#039;t you comment on the relevancy of the search for &quot;Tampa Hotels&quot; on Google. 
Did you execute the search? What do you find so irrelevant about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, why didn&#8217;t you comment on the relevancy of the search for &#8220;Tampa Hotels&#8221; on Google.<br />
Did you execute the search? What do you find so irrelevant about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1866883</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why can’t people understand that Google *is* human-powered search?&quot;

I have no problem with Google except that the only thing they give back to the FOSS community they admittedly took so much from is a coding contest sponsorship.
They&#039;re no different than Microsoft, and they certainly aren&#039;t as do no evil as Red Hat.
I am building an open source search engine w/social search as an extra using the pagerank algorithm and you&#039;re invited to join me. www.peeplr.com

Why not build a common search engine and module db that we can ALL use, just like MediaWiki, and word press, then we can ALL make money selling keywords on searches?

I have most of the search engine part done. Just as Linux is bigger and better than Windows because of the world wide input, so can a community search engine. Google has what 15000 employees. About 1000000 people contribute to Linux. A GPL search engine like Mediawiki is the way to go, not Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why can’t people understand that Google *is* human-powered search?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no problem with Google except that the only thing they give back to the FOSS community they admittedly took so much from is a coding contest sponsorship.<br />
They&#8217;re no different than Microsoft, and they certainly aren&#8217;t as do no evil as Red Hat.<br />
I am building an open source search engine w/social search as an extra using the pagerank algorithm and you&#8217;re invited to join me. <a href="http://www.peeplr.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.peeplr.com'>http://www.peeplr.com</a></p>
<p>Why not build a common search engine and module db that we can ALL use, just like MediaWiki, and word press, then we can ALL make money selling keywords on searches?</p>
<p>I have most of the search engine part done. Just as Linux is bigger and better than Windows because of the world wide input, so can a community search engine. Google has what 15000 employees. About 1000000 people contribute to Linux. A GPL search engine like Mediawiki is the way to go, not Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Human-powered search&quot;

Why can&#039;t people understand that Google *is* human-powered search?

That is the fundamental genius behind PageRank.  Millions (billions?) of people with websites, and blogs, link to content that they find wortwhile, and add related text.  They do this all for free.  Plus, they have fun doing it!  

Google realized that the NETwork part of InterNET meant that people were already labelling and stating what the best pages on the &#039;net are anyway.

Yes, that&#039;s right, *you* are working for Google.  Every time you link to something in your blog, you are working for Google.  More generally, since any search engine can use this information, you are helping everyone in the world find the quality pages more easily.

I love that I can Google some coding problem I have and then instantly find the most definitive solution to the problem decided upon (by linking on forums and blogs) by other people who have had the same problem.  Moreover, Google ranks by authority score, so smarter people (who more other people think are smart) get more influence at deciding which pages are good and should be at the top of queries.  Look up PageRank to see how that works.

*Paying* people to do the same thing would just be slower, painful, lower-quality (no authority score), and a waste of people&#039;s talents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Human-powered search&#8221;</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t people understand that Google *is* human-powered search?</p>
<p>That is the fundamental genius behind PageRank.  Millions (billions?) of people with websites, and blogs, link to content that they find wortwhile, and add related text.  They do this all for free.  Plus, they have fun doing it!  </p>
<p>Google realized that the NETwork part of InterNET meant that people were already labelling and stating what the best pages on the &#8216;net are anyway.</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right, *you* are working for Google.  Every time you link to something in your blog, you are working for Google.  More generally, since any search engine can use this information, you are helping everyone in the world find the quality pages more easily.</p>
<p>I love that I can Google some coding problem I have and then instantly find the most definitive solution to the problem decided upon (by linking on forums and blogs) by other people who have had the same problem.  Moreover, Google ranks by authority score, so smarter people (who more other people think are smart) get more influence at deciding which pages are good and should be at the top of queries.  Look up PageRank to see how that works.</p>
<p>*Paying* people to do the same thing would just be slower, painful, lower-quality (no authority score), and a waste of people&#8217;s talents.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot has changed since that announcement.  For example, when I search Tampa hotels on Google, I get very relevant results.  They need to look for a new example of Google&#039;s mediocrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot has changed since that announcement.  For example, when I search Tampa hotels on Google, I get very relevant results.  They need to look for a new example of Google&#8217;s mediocrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Darnell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/23/wikia-search-in-2007-or-not-jimmy-wales-say-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-1866615</link>
		<dc:creator>Darnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wiki do not have any article about Megaglobe, which is very weird to me. Did they do it on purpose? Who knows.  Anyway for them to not be updated like they are, I came to the same conclusion.

They are way overrated and it looks like the results and comments made on Wiki are protecting interests of &quot;very few corporations&quot;. Watch closer and you may see what I am talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiki do not have any article about Megaglobe, which is very weird to me. Did they do it on purpose? Who knows.  Anyway for them to not be updated like they are, I came to the same conclusion.</p>
<p>They are way overrated and it looks like the results and comments made on Wiki are protecting interests of &#8220;very few corporations&#8221;. Watch closer and you may see what I am talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We’ve waited more than a year for Wikia to launch their human powered search engine. &quot;

Google could add a human factor into pagerank in like 5 seconds. They&#039;ve already started with ratings.

Wikia&#039;s success rests on Wikipedia and the reputation only. They are technically inferior to Google by several orders of magnitude, and this is closed source. The collective knoledge that made mediawiki great is not included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’ve waited more than a year for Wikia to launch their human powered search engine. &#8221;</p>
<p>Google could add a human factor into pagerank in like 5 seconds. They&#8217;ve already started with ratings.</p>
<p>Wikia&#8217;s success rests on Wikipedia and the reputation only. They are technically inferior to Google by several orders of magnitude, and this is closed source. The collective knoledge that made mediawiki great is not included.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChaCha for the win! ;)

I can&#039;t wait to see what sort of fallout happens in Google&#039;s SERPs as this battle wages on. When Wikipedia has a &quot;search powered by you&quot; search box on it, will those pages still rank #1 in Google for everything under the sun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChaCha for the win! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see what sort of fallout happens in Google&#8217;s SERPs as this battle wages on. When Wikipedia has a &#8220;search powered by you&#8221; search box on it, will those pages still rank #1 in Google for everything under the sun?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like another search startup....what are they called, Powerstart? Powersearch? No? PowerDeadpool? Until they launch something, no one is worth this much hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like another search startup&#8230;.what are they called, Powerstart? Powersearch? No? PowerDeadpool? Until they launch something, no one is worth this much hype.</p>
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