Comments on: PayPerPost Suspends Zookoda, Deadpool Looking Likely http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/ Startup and Technology News Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:31:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: BJ the Lab Monkey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1891072 BJ the Lab Monkey Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:33:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1891072 This is interesting and I have used Zookoda to send emails to my users and they worked ok. Personally I don't think PPP is a bad thing as bloggers should be paid to write about things of interest. Now if a product is bad and it's reviewed as good which may have been the case then that's a bad thing for everyone. I've not really kept up on the whole PPP thing to be honest. I think all sites just add more pollution to the Blogosphere anyway. The only problem I have is sites that are just for the purpose of delivering ads. I think anyone legit has an issue with that. So the question I have for anyone that want to answer it is how do you make legit money from you blogging efforts? My blog has become somewhat popular but I don't see the ad revenue actually making a ton of money for the site. Given that fact a site like Zookoda was a positive for me since I could send a decent looking email to all my subscribers and not have to spend lots of time tweaking it, and free is good... any other suggestions? This is interesting and I have used Zookoda to send emails to my users and they worked ok. Personally I don’t think PPP is a bad thing as bloggers should be paid to write about things of interest. Now if a product is bad and it’s reviewed as good which may have been the case then that’s a bad thing for everyone.

I’ve not really kept up on the whole PPP thing to be honest. I think all sites just add more pollution to the Blogosphere anyway. The only problem I have is sites that are just for the purpose of delivering ads. I think anyone legit has an issue with that.

So the question I have for anyone that want to answer it is how do you make legit money from you blogging efforts? My blog has become somewhat popular but I don’t see the ad revenue actually making a ton of money for the site. Given that fact a site like Zookoda was a positive for me since I could send a decent looking email to all my subscribers and not have to spend lots of time tweaking it, and free is good… any other suggestions?

]]> By: The Year in DeadPool (2007 Edition) http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1883623 The Year in DeadPool (2007 Edition) Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:37:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1883623 [...] PayPerPost Suspends Zookoda, Deadpool Looking Likely [...] [...] PayPerPost Suspends Zookoda, Deadpool Looking Likely [...]

]]> By: Phil http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1867831 Phil Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:14:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1867831 FeedBlitz is happy to welcome legitimate Zookoda publishers. FeedBlitz haas full self-service tools, including import and export, excellent deliverability and great ISP relations. Circulation has grown from 2.6 million to 4.4 million since the end of August. With free (ad supported) and paid plans (i.e. a real business model to ensure we stick around), we have the features and the price points to suit everyone. FeedBlitz delivers nearly 30 million emails for bloggers monthly. Send your scheduled updates and broadcasts with FeedBlitz. Phil Hollows Founder CEO FeedBlitz, LLC www.feedblitz.com FeedBlitz is happy to welcome legitimate Zookoda publishers. FeedBlitz haas full self-service tools, including import and export, excellent deliverability and great ISP relations. Circulation has grown from 2.6 million to 4.4 million since the end of August. With free (ad supported) and paid plans (i.e. a real business model to ensure we stick around), we have the features and the price points to suit everyone. FeedBlitz delivers nearly 30 million emails for bloggers monthly.

Send your scheduled updates and broadcasts with FeedBlitz.

Phil Hollows
Founder CEO
FeedBlitz, LLC
http://www.feedblitz.com

]]> By: uploadchoice http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1866456 uploadchoice Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:09:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1866456 I will rather consider adding subscribe button for rss feed in my blog. I will rather consider adding subscribe button for rss feed in my blog.

]]> By: techguy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1865921 techguy Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:17:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1865921 I've used phplist before and it works pretty well. I know I had to tweak the rss importer to work the way I wanted it to. I’ve used phplist before and it works pretty well. I know I had to tweak the rss importer to work the way I wanted it to.

]]> By: marck http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1865005 marck Sat, 22 Dec 2007 22:52:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1865005 I've been using zookoda to send out my daily newsletter and it is the worst service ever. The folks at Payperpost are absolutely clueless with tech support. They have absolutely no idea how to fix anything and this only proves their incompetance. Anyone sugggest any other free mailing list software we can use? I'd be glad to see the end of them. I hear NYimes are writing a big feature on their failure as a business I’ve been using zookoda to send out my daily newsletter and it is the worst service ever. The folks at Payperpost are absolutely clueless with tech support. They have absolutely no idea how to fix anything and this only proves their incompetance.

Anyone sugggest any other free mailing list software we can use? I’d be glad to see the end of them. I hear NYimes are writing a big feature on their failure as a business

]]> By: Ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1864289 Ballmer Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:47:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1864289 steve ballmer said… btw. I have been accused of spamming your little blog or whatever here. Gimme a break! Do you people know who I am? Do you have any idea what I can do? Spam? I don’t think so! What I do, I do out of concern for my fellow man. It hurts me to my core to see you people sitting around using these little toy computers with candy looking interfaces. I beg of you! Save the children! STOP this Mac madness now, Vista awaits you, reality is out there waiting for you to join it! Just get up, slowly! Back - away from the keyboard. Now get the credit card, go to any electronics outlet and buy a Vista PC! Now does’nt that feel better? Glad to help. fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com steve ballmer said…

btw.
I have been accused of spamming your little blog or whatever here. Gimme a break! Do you people know who I am? Do you have any idea what I can do? Spam? I don’t think so!
What I do, I do out of concern for my fellow man. It hurts me to my core to see you people sitting around using these little toy computers with candy looking interfaces.
I beg of you! Save the children! STOP this Mac madness now, Vista awaits you, reality is out there waiting for you to join it!

Just get up, slowly!
Back - away from the keyboard.
Now get the credit card, go to any electronics outlet and buy a Vista PC!

Now does’nt that feel better?
Glad to help.
fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

]]> By: @bs meter http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1864270 @bs meter Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:21:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1864270 Check out the 'no follow' attributes of those links.... Check out the ‘no follow’ attributes of those links….

]]> By: Stasher http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1864269 Stasher Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:21:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1864269 @bsmeter - It certainly looks like paid links here (which they are as sponsors), but take a closer look, and you'll see the "nofollow" property in the link that doesn't pass along page rank. As a former sponsor of TechCrunch, this periodic posting is just another way to deliver value to their advertisers -- some (most?) users tend to ignore the ad space in the right gutter. Ironic? Yes. BS? No. @bsmeter - It certainly looks like paid links here (which they are as sponsors), but take a closer look, and you’ll see the “nofollow” property in the link that doesn’t pass along page rank.

As a former sponsor of TechCrunch, this periodic posting is just another way to deliver value to their advertisers — some (most?) users tend to ignore the ad space in the right gutter.

Ironic? Yes. BS? No.

]]> By: Vishal http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1864181 Vishal Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:08:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1864181 Check out the latest article about Google-Zero:The Eco-Friendly search engine Check out the latest article about Google-Zero:The Eco-Friendly search engine

]]> By: after hours stock quotes http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863896 after hours stock quotes Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:21:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863896 This one cannot be dead; it never even was a live. This one cannot be dead; it never even was a live.

]]> By: micfo.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863744 micfo.com Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:49:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863744 Distributing content through rss feed would have been worked out better than email, just wondering how PPP was not aware about such awful consequence before acquiring them? Distributing content through rss feed would have been worked out better than email, just wondering how PPP was not aware about such awful consequence before acquiring them?

]]> By: CAR http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863671 CAR Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:17:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863671 Told you ~ CARversation.com Told you
~ CARversation.com

]]> By: bs meter http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863621 bs meter Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:59:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863621 how ironic that the previous Tech Crunch post is a "thank you" to your sponsors with in effect are "paid links" which pass page rank from Tech Crunch. Isn't this what google is against? slippery slope guys and these look a lot like PAID LINKS to MOI , TechCrunch Sponsors! * Panther Express * PartnerUp * ONEsite * BrightCove * PageFlakes * IDrive * Text Link Ads * Ads-Click how ironic that the previous Tech Crunch post is a “thank you” to your sponsors with in effect are “paid links” which pass page rank from Tech Crunch. Isn’t this what google is against? slippery slope guys and these look a lot like PAID LINKS to MOI

, TechCrunch Sponsors!

* Panther Express

* PartnerUp

* ONEsite

* BrightCove

* PageFlakes

* IDrive

* Text Link Ads

* Ads-Click

]]> By: Seth http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863507 Seth Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:18:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863507 Zookoda was really lame when the Australians ran it, mostly due to zero technical support. It improved a bit under PayPerPost. Then a few months ago mailings stopped going through due to some error in our settings -- the message said. We couldn't figure out what was wrong. No response from tech support. We were on the verge of moving from an RSS regurgitator to a more custom e-mail newsletter, so it wasn't worth the trouble to pursue it. But for what it did, straight RSS to e-mail weekly, it was great, while it lasted. It gave us a newsletter with zero work every week, once configured. Feedburner won't let you import e-mail addresses, so that wasn't an option. And we're not going with a small startup again. Zookoda was really lame when the Australians ran it, mostly due to zero technical support. It improved a bit under PayPerPost. Then a few months ago mailings stopped going through due to some error in our settings — the message said. We couldn’t figure out what was wrong. No response from tech support. We were on the verge of moving from an RSS regurgitator to a more custom e-mail newsletter, so it wasn’t worth the trouble to pursue it. But for what it did, straight RSS to e-mail weekly, it was great, while it lasted. It gave us a newsletter with zero work every week, once configured. Feedburner won’t let you import e-mail addresses, so that wasn’t an option. And we’re not going with a small startup again.

]]> By: elegance http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863427 elegance Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:54:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863427 God forbid TC succeeds as the know it all of Tech. I'm sure TC will have a party if PPP goes under. 'We got ya we got ya'. I thought PPP would run out of cash and blow it, but considering all the hate mail they have gotten from TC et al, I somehow suspect they will make it into the black with sheer will power alone. God forbid TC succeeds as the know it all of Tech. I’m sure TC will have a party if PPP goes under. ‘We got ya we got ya’. I thought PPP would run out of cash and blow it, but considering all the hate mail they have gotten from TC et al, I somehow suspect they will make it into the black with sheer will power alone.

]]> By: thatguy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863286 thatguy Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:33:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863286 "An email distribution service that doesn’t provide email distribution is a business with nothing going for it." And a "news" service that doesn't report the whole news doesn't have anything going for it either. You guys just sit there ALL day waiting for the slightest sign of failure coming from the payperpost camp then you pounce all over it whether it's a story or not. From the sounds of what ted murphy is saying and the gist of the real article, zookoda most likely had a bunch of spammers abusing the system to the point that the isp complained. instead of being irresponsible and letting it continue, they put a temporary hold on broadcasts so that the problem could be addressed correctly. you guys really have no integrity what so ever. “An email distribution service that doesn’t provide email distribution is a business with nothing going for it.”

And a “news” service that doesn’t report the whole news doesn’t have anything going for it either. You guys just sit there ALL day waiting for the slightest sign of failure coming from the payperpost camp then you pounce all over it whether it’s a story or not. From the sounds of what ted murphy is saying and the gist of the real article, zookoda most likely had a bunch of spammers abusing the system to the point that the isp complained. instead of being irresponsible and letting it continue, they put a temporary hold on broadcasts so that the problem could be addressed correctly. you guys really have no integrity what so ever.

]]> By: Ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863276 Ballmer Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:23:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863276 Told you! fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com Told you!

fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

]]> By: techguy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863271 techguy Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:12:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863271 Hmmm...shouldn't you appropriately call it Izea and not PayPerPost now? I guess the PayPerPost title probably got you more views. Hmmm…shouldn’t you appropriately call it Izea and not PayPerPost now? I guess the PayPerPost title probably got you more views.

]]> By: Zookoda Suspended by IZEA - Blog Tipz | Make Money Online http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863231 Zookoda Suspended by IZEA - Blog Tipz | Make Money Online Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:18:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863231 [...] the service will be back soon, but until then, many publishers will have to find another service. Many reports of the service think that the service won't be back or that they've switched services, [...] [...] the service will be back soon, but until then, many publishers will have to find another service. Many reports of the service think that the service won’t be back or that they’ve switched services, [...]

]]> By: Michael Martine http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863205 Michael Martine Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:40:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863205 Good riddance. What a bunch of blogosphere pollution. Good riddance. What a bunch of blogosphere pollution.

]]> By: Duncan Riley http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863178 Duncan Riley Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:03:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863178 franky no probs. As I said I still don't believe them to be the root of all evil, but I do think it's a business idea on borrowed time post Google crackdown. I'm not sure I've ever written about ReviewMe (if I have apologies), but I know they started on a better foot by insisting on upfront disclosure, and to Murphy's credit he eventually came around on the disclosure side on PPP. End of the day though Google doesn't like any of them today, and that's what's going to hurt them going forward. Some of the stories I read when doing a quick bit of research for this post would turn your hair gray, folks disappearing from Google altogether, destroying their online businesses etc after using PPP. They're far from being the most evil people online, but today I'd recommend ppl don't use it; it's as risky has taking illicit drugs, you may get a high but the crash could kill you. franky
no probs. As I said I still don’t believe them to be the root of all evil, but I do think it’s a business idea on borrowed time post Google crackdown.

I’m not sure I’ve ever written about ReviewMe (if I have apologies), but I know they started on a better foot by insisting on upfront disclosure, and to Murphy’s credit he eventually came around on the disclosure side on PPP. End of the day though Google doesn’t like any of them today, and that’s what’s going to hurt them going forward. Some of the stories I read when doing a quick bit of research for this post would turn your hair gray, folks disappearing from Google altogether, destroying their online businesses etc after using PPP. They’re far from being the most evil people online, but today I’d recommend ppl don’t use it; it’s as risky has taking illicit drugs, you may get a high but the crash could kill you.

]]> By: franky http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863172 franky Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:53:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863172 Duncan, I've been reading you since the old BH days, and totally expect that you still stick to your original stance on PPP (and similar services). I thought it were appropriate to point out you weren't part of the PPP=evil camp, because reporting on IZEA at TC might raise those assumptions. Maybe I might have commented with an inappropriate tone, but heck it's 3.00AM here on a Saturday morning. Blame the Russian lady, AKA Mrs. Smirnoff. And if I remember well, we were numerous to support/endorse/announce ReviewMe when they launched. Yes, it all were opportunities and some chose the path of disclosure, others only saw the $$$. Duncan, I’ve been reading you since the old BH days, and totally expect that you still stick to your original stance on PPP (and similar services).

I thought it were appropriate to point out you weren’t part of the PPP=evil camp, because reporting on IZEA at TC might raise those assumptions. Maybe I might have commented with an inappropriate tone, but heck it’s 3.00AM here on a Saturday morning. Blame the Russian lady, AKA Mrs. Smirnoff.

And if I remember well, we were numerous to support/endorse/announce ReviewMe when they launched. Yes, it all were opportunities and some chose the path of disclosure, others only saw the $$$.

]]> By: hash http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863169 hash Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:49:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863169 A broken feature does not a deadpool candidate make... A broken feature does not a deadpool candidate make…

]]> By: Duncan Riley http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863162 Duncan Riley Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:41:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/21/payperpost-suspends-zookoda-deadpool-looking-likely/#comment-1863162 franky I've never changed my tune on that. As we've seen in the computer game review space this year folks are paid/ fired over what they write, to me there's not a lot of difference, there has always been outlets that take money for positive reviews (TC isn't one of them and I haven't even so much as been offered even a free T-shirt). I've always been against PPP personally, but I've never been on the PPP is the root or evil bandwagon either, and if you check anything I've written at TC on PPP you'll see that I've remained consistent. As I've also written previously as well PPP is on borrowed time because the model is flawed, they're losing advertisers and "posties" now due to the Google crackdown. I also believe Ted Murphy knows this which is why we've seen PPP diversify a lot this year. Unfortunately for them Zoodoka wasn't their best buy, but to be fair bulk email is always a risky business to be in....there was a very good reason Zoodoka was on the market for 7mths before being bought :-) franky
I’ve never changed my tune on that. As we’ve seen in the computer game review space this year folks are paid/ fired over what they write, to me there’s not a lot of difference, there has always been outlets that take money for positive reviews (TC isn’t one of them and I haven’t even so much as been offered even a free T-shirt). I’ve always been against PPP personally, but I’ve never been on the PPP is the root or evil bandwagon either, and if you check anything I’ve written at TC on PPP you’ll see that I’ve remained consistent. As I’ve also written previously as well PPP is on borrowed time because the model is flawed, they’re losing advertisers and “posties” now due to the Google crackdown. I also believe Ted Murphy knows this which is why we’ve seen PPP diversify a lot this year. Unfortunately for them Zoodoka wasn’t their best buy, but to be fair bulk email is always a risky business to be in….there was a very good reason Zoodoka was on the market for 7mths before being bought :-)

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