December 19, 2007

VCs Push 3Guppies Into The Deadpool

Nick Gonzalez

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3guppies_logo.pngIn a rather sad end to 2007, the venture firm behind mobile media startup 3Guppies, VantagePoint, has closed down the company. This is despite still having $8 million of an original $20 million (raised in April 2006) left to burn in the bank. VentureBeat reports that the company’s 40 employees were sent home last week, but will be paid through the end of the month.

3 Guppies was started after VantagePoint spent $20 million acquiring two companies: MoPhone, a mobile social networking company, and 3Guploads, a mobile content company (ringtones). However, the mobile ringtone market has been drying up over the last year as margins tighten and mobile phones become more open. One of the largest ringtone distributors sold to Bellrock Media last year under competitive pressure.

The two companies struggled to find a way forward under the leadership of MoPhone’s former CEO Bill Bryant. The combined company’s new offering was a simple addition of the two original startups. 3Guppies allowed users to share and store pictures in a free mobile locker as well as create your own MP3 ringtones and download video to any cell phone. The offering is similar to those of Juicecaster and Treemo. However, evolving the company beyond this combined service proved too difficult. Within a year Bryant was removed from his position, taking along money made from the original merger. Bryant said, “We couldn’t build other services on top of the technology, so we were stuck in the ringtone business.”

VantagePoint then realized the combination wouldn’t pay off to be the big hit they were looking for and pulled the plug on the operation. Seattle PI is reporting that VantagePoint is instead negotiating to sell its majority interest back to the management team. For now we’re putting it in the deadpool.

Update: The shut down has been confirmed. VantagePoint said, “it just was not a good idea to blast to the end of the runway and crash, but to taxi off gracefully.”

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  1. Eric Eldon

    Nick,

    Here’s an update from VantagePoint.

    http://venturebeat.com/2007/12.....-to-death/

    Thanks,
    Eric

  2. Scott W.

    There’s either a missing negating word from the first sentence of the last paragraph or VantagePoint hates success.

  3. Raj

    Nick,

    Have you seen ToneThis?

    http://www.tonethis.com - this model like Xingtone seems to be working…

    Raj

  4. Joel Strellner

    Sorry, but it should be, “VantagePoint then realized the combination wouldn’t pay off to be the big hit they were looking for and pulled the plug on the operation.”

    Theres a big difference. between you version and the intended one.

  5. Ballmer

    lol
    fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

  6. Pud

    Wow I have never heard of 3guppies, but it looks just like a site I used to run (for fun… no $20m investment), and recently shut down.

    Here’s the story:
    http://www.pud.com/2007/11/mobog.html

  7. Wes

    Maybe they got into the mobile ring tone market at the wrong time. I think good timing is very important.

  8. Rich Eicher

    Moblogging is a feature not a business. There is no viable business model (for making serious VC money at least) in moblogging in 2007/2008/2009…. When I was pitching VC’s 2 years ago that’s all they were asking about.. and I will tell you what I told them… just because its good mobile idea doesn’t mean you can make money from it.

    - You cannot charge for it unless you use an MMS shortcode (which is only available on Verizon currently)

    - You can try to advertise on the widget….but people don’t like that… chicken and the egg.

    - It is now provided for free by half the photo sites because the technology was so easy to duplicate.

    As for the technology….
    It’s not rocket science to receive an email from any US phone, its the same as any other email except the phone number is in the FROM field. Just parse that out and store it.

    My guess is they were using moblogging to get the subscribers on the site and then sell them ringtone/wallpaper services. Since the ringtone business is commoditized with a few large storefronts, sharing communities and many “DO IT YOURSELF” apps, they must have decided that it was not worth losing the rest of their money just to be another mediocre ’sharing community/marketplace for ringtones’ with no exit in sight.

    Mophone.com was a great site, one of the early innovators in mobile social communities and its too bad they got rid of it and choose to do mixxer
    .

  9. Raul Lopez

    3guppies laid off employees:

    Please send resumes to info@pugmedia.com, we are looking for good people for our software division and partner companies.

    RAUL

  10. Frank

    Um, “evolving the company beyond this combined service proved too difficult,” is rather kind.

    Does anybody remember when 3GUpload was the most thriving mobile community around personalization in existence?

    Following the investment, they simply slapped a storefront on top of a community, and guess what….that community died.

    Rarely does one see such a great position squandered so swiftly by such clearly misdirected VC strategy than with 3GUpload.

  11. Anti Fake Steve

    Fake Steve,

    What happened to your links on that last post? You spent so much time coming up with such a contributing response - “lol” - that you deserve the links back to your hilarious blog.

  12. Next Up

    SendMeMobile, just bought Mbuzzy.com. This is a very similar situation of a venture backed storefront/community play and I bet they are next to fall!

    According to Alexa, 3guppies.com has more traffic than Sendmemobile.com and mbuzzy.com combined!

    Backed By Spark Capital and True Ventures

  13. William Volk

    Sorry to hear about the layoffs etc…

    It looks like bootstrapping MyNuMo (http://mynumo.com) was the right move here. Not only is our community thriving, we have also achieved a leadership role on iPhone entertainment.

    One key difference is that we did make the deals with the carriers to obtain carrier billing for user generated content. People simply won’t buy mobile content that is not charged to their phone bill.

  14. alfonso

    i just got charged for a subscription renewal by 3guppies…. then i find out they tanked and their website is shutdown …how do i get a refund?

  15. Reutan

    Even weirder…the website still works. I just sent myself a ringtone just yesterday…but if it’s going down soon, I still want to know the details on the file conversion. x.x