Comments on: 23andMe Step 2: Spitting In A Tube http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/ Startup and Tech News Fri, 16 May 2008 08:13:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: My 23andMe DNA Results http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-2013872 My 23andMe DNA Results Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:06:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-2013872 [...] purchased a $1,000 23andMe DNA test back in December, spit in the tube when the kit arrived and, just a few weeks later got the results back. Yeah, its too bad I [...] […] purchased a $1,000 23andMe DNA test back in December, spit in the tube when the kit arrived and, just a few weeks later got the results back. Yeah, its too bad I […]

]]> By: My 23andMe DNA Results http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-2013871 My 23andMe DNA Results Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:06:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-2013871 [...] purchased a $1,000 23andMe DNA test back in December, spit in the tube when the kit arrived and, just a few weeks later got the results back. Yeah, its too bad I [...] […] purchased a $1,000 23andMe DNA test back in December, spit in the tube when the kit arrived and, just a few weeks later got the results back. Yeah, its too bad I […]

]]> By: L’introduction de la génétique dans les services en ligne : Adrien Peneranda http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1940593 L’introduction de la génétique dans les services en ligne : Adrien Peneranda Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:21:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1940593 [...] - Une experience utilisateur de 23andMe par Michael Arrington, fondateur de Techcrunch, qui est en train de tester le service: La 1ère partie ici, la 2nde là. [...] […] - Une experience utilisateur de 23andMe par Michael Arrington, fondateur de Techcrunch, qui est en train de tester le service: La 1ère partie ici, la 2nde là. […]

]]> By: Ramsey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1849347 Ramsey Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1849347 "Mike, what is this article about? What info is this providing readers with? You’re essentially repeating what you said last time in my opinion." It sounds like google has it's hand firmly planted in this guys ass. Jeff Dunham couldn't pull off a show this good. “Mike, what is this article about?
What info is this providing readers with?

You’re essentially repeating what you said last time in my opinion.”

It sounds like google has it’s hand firmly planted in this guys ass. Jeff Dunham couldn’t pull off a show this good.

]]> By: poopie http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1849232 poopie Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:42:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1849232 Gee Mike, what a great post. I think this is one of your best ever. I can't wait to read your next post about how you sealed the envelope and took the sample out to the mailbox. Gee Mike, what a great post. I think this is one of your best ever.

I can’t wait to read your next post about how you sealed the envelope and took the sample out to the mailbox.

]]> By: I Am Not Posting To Spam My Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848907 I Am Not Posting To Spam My Blog Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:58:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848907 "I’ll get the results back and will know a little more about my essential me-ness." In the same way that you can know about the Mona Lisa by reading a printout of the colour value of each pixel of a digital scan, or Beethoven's Ninth Symphony by reading it in Parson's code. I like to think that we are more than the sum of our DNA. Shame the test hadn't come back a few weeks earlier though, you could have told Ms Hartwell "I'm sorry, but my genetic code makes me predisposed to amateur lawyering." “I’ll get the results back and will know a little more about my essential me-ness.”

In the same way that you can know about the Mona Lisa by reading a printout of the colour value of each pixel of a digital scan, or Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony by reading it in Parson’s code. I like to think that we are more than the sum of our DNA.

Shame the test hadn’t come back a few weeks earlier though, you could have told Ms Hartwell “I’m sorry, but my genetic code makes me predisposed to amateur lawyering.”

]]> By: 42mb.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848634 42mb.com Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:57:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848634 I just wondering what could be the meaning of 23 in 23andMe? :) I just wondering what could be the meaning of 23 in 23andMe? :)

]]> By: gregory http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848490 gregory Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:07:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848490 boomer narcissists would be my guess for 23's target market... and genetic structure is quite gross-level when compared to the subtleties of consciousness... won't, can't, tell anything about peace of mind... ms. hartwell, keep shooting good photos, i like your site, never would have known who you were except for the steam.... life in the fishbowl.... just smile, is always good advice.... boomer narcissists would be my guess for 23’s target market… and genetic structure is quite gross-level when compared to the subtleties of consciousness… won’t, can’t, tell anything about peace of mind…

ms. hartwell, keep shooting good photos, i like your site, never would have known who you were except for the steam…. life in the fishbowl…. just smile, is always good advice….

]]> By: Louis-Eric http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848475 Louis-Eric Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:48:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848475 Speaking of copyright law and photographers, what happened with that Figueroa character ? Speaking of copyright law and photographers, what happened with that Figueroa character ?

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848423 Michael Arrington Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:06:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848423 Max - what side am I supposed to present, if not the one I believe is correct? Just imagine what would have been said if it was my photo, and I had been the one to send the DMCA notice to youtube... Max - what side am I supposed to present, if not the one I believe is correct?

Just imagine what would have been said if it was my photo, and I had been the one to send the DMCA notice to youtube…

]]> By: Ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848406 Ballmer Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:57:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848406 Why does this upset you people so much! MS employees are required to take a full genetic battery before employment! fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com Why does this upset you people so much! MS employees are required to take a full genetic battery before employment!

fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

]]> By: Small Business Marketing http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848363 Small Business Marketing Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:29:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848363 The price is tempting but do I want my genetic blueprint residing in someone's database. Who knows where my info will end up and what it can be used for. The price is tempting but do I want my genetic blueprint residing in someone’s database. Who knows where my info will end up and what it can be used for.

]]> By: Mark Fletcher http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848311 Mark Fletcher Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:57:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848311 Wayne, with 23andMe, you don't get your entire genome sequenced. Just a bit under 600k base pairs. The hope is that those points, called SNPs, correspond to a majority of the defects that cause diseases (or traits). I'm still going through my results, so I don't know how successful 23andMe was in picking the right SNPs. Wayne, with 23andMe, you don’t get your entire genome sequenced. Just a bit under 600k base pairs. The hope is that those points, called SNPs, correspond to a majority of the defects that cause diseases (or traits). I’m still going through my results, so I don’t know how successful 23andMe was in picking the right SNPs.

]]> By: Max http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848300 Max Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:48:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848300 I don't know if Lane Hartwell is taking the right approach to the issue of her photo in the video (which I enjoyed, like everyone else), but I thought Michael's post on the issue was ignorant and insensitive, with zero nuance -- just a "waah! selfish photographer invokes copyright and takes away my video! waah!". But hey, let's make sure we represent only one side, and don't ask the other person for their perspective at all. Bring up "lawyers" so that the knuckle-dragging commenters can hang the "bitch" to dry for her horrible photography and sense of entitlement. Like I said, I don't know that she's going about things the proper way, but she didn't deserve to "crunched" up her *ss by the eunuchs around here. Pure poetic justice to be confronted by the subject of your hatchet job a day later. I wish the squirming could have been videotaped. I don’t know if Lane Hartwell is taking the right approach to the issue of her photo in the video (which I enjoyed, like everyone else), but I thought Michael’s post on the issue was ignorant and insensitive, with zero nuance — just a “waah! selfish photographer invokes copyright and takes away my video! waah!”.

But hey, let’s make sure we represent only one side, and don’t ask the other person for their perspective at all. Bring up “lawyers” so that the knuckle-dragging commenters can hang the “bitch” to dry for her horrible photography and sense of entitlement.

Like I said, I don’t know that she’s going about things the proper way, but she didn’t deserve to “crunched” up her *ss by the eunuchs around here. Pure poetic justice to be confronted by the subject of your hatchet job a day later. I wish the squirming could have been videotaped.

]]> By: Andrew Meyer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848253 Andrew Meyer Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:07:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848253 Mike, I still have about $700 to raise in donations before I can fill my 23andMe tube with saliva. Good luck on the results! Mike, I still have about $700 to raise in donations before I can fill my 23andMe tube with saliva. Good luck on the results!

]]> By: Wayne Lambright http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848252 Wayne Lambright Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:06:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848252 I love the idea of know all about your DNA. For only a grand, it seams very tempting. I love the idea of know all about your DNA. For only a grand, it seams very tempting.

]]> By: Jon Garfunkel http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848249 Jon Garfunkel Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:03:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848249 Well, your *community* (in the person of Joseph Hayden) felt you had made a quick hash of the issues by consulting only one lawyer. Your community (in the person of Amie Gillingham) felt that people would have had different talking points if the photographer had a higher profile and the output was less popular. Your community (in the name of Mike Doeff) felt the level of discource was disgraceful. From these names, you see, it's not an XX v. XY issue as you suggested to Shelley. I don't know if I'm really in the TC community. I come here on rare occasion, usually when something hits the fan. The problem is that with the non-registration, you trade off quality for quantity. Maybe that's good for your ads, but that means less people *read* the comments, and thus less people see the good stuff *from* the comments. Isn't that what the media revolution was supposed to be about? Your readers know more than you-- but only if you recognize that? Hey, I thought it was a fun video, and hey, I am still viewing it on DailyMotion. When I first heard that it got pulled, I was disappointed. But in conflict comes opportunity. Most fair use cases are usually Big Media vs. the little guy, and they're usually open-and-shut either way. This case involves two small players. I'm betting the fair use legal community (which hasn't gotten involved in this yet) might be split on this. Well, your *community* (in the person of Joseph Hayden) felt you had made a quick hash of the issues by consulting only one lawyer. Your community (in the person of Amie Gillingham) felt that people would have had different talking points if the photographer had a higher profile and the output was less popular. Your community (in the name of Mike Doeff) felt the level of discource was disgraceful.

From these names, you see, it’s not an XX v. XY issue as you suggested to Shelley.

I don’t know if I’m really in the TC community. I come here on rare occasion, usually when something hits the fan. The problem is that with the non-registration, you trade off quality for quantity. Maybe that’s good for your ads, but that means less people *read* the comments, and thus less people see the good stuff *from* the comments. Isn’t that what the media revolution was supposed to be about? Your readers know more than you– but only if you recognize that?

Hey, I thought it was a fun video, and hey, I am still viewing it on DailyMotion. When I first heard that it got pulled, I was disappointed. But in conflict comes opportunity. Most fair use cases are usually Big Media vs. the little guy, and they’re usually open-and-shut either way. This case involves two small players. I’m betting the fair use legal community (which hasn’t gotten involved in this yet) might be split on this.

]]> By: What are you doing? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848244 What are you doing? Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:00:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848244 Mike, why are you doing?? I'm serious... Mike, My visionary. Use pit bull or dog saliva... Please trick Anne & her scientist. Tell her I want name. I want to see if "evolution versus creation" result. :) Mike, why are you doing?? I’m serious…

Mike, My visionary. Use pit bull or dog saliva… Please trick Anne & her scientist. Tell her I want name. I want to see if “evolution versus creation” result. :)

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848223 Michael Arrington Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:38:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848223 Jon - I consider what Lane did as anti-community and overly aggressive. That video was perhaps the best thing that could have happened to her career, and she did exactly the wrong thing in sending a take down notice. People who abuse copyright law need to be called on it. Jon - I consider what Lane did as anti-community and overly aggressive. That video was perhaps the best thing that could have happened to her career, and she did exactly the wrong thing in sending a take down notice. People who abuse copyright law need to be called on it.

]]> By: Scary shit!!! http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848222 Scary shit!!! Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:37:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848222 Mike, do yourself a favor don't try it.... Cancel the test. I think this product would scare shit everyone. What if you discover your great great grandfather was memeber of nazi party? What if you discover your great great great grandfather was billy the kid? What if you discover your great great great grandfather join stalin murder club? These things can hurt feelings... Mike, do yourself a favor don’t try it…. Cancel the test.

I think this product would scare shit everyone.
What if you discover your great great grandfather was memeber of nazi party?
What if you discover your great great great grandfather was billy the kid?
What if you discover your great great great grandfather join stalin murder club?

These things can hurt feelings…

]]> By: Jon Garfunkel http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848220 Jon Garfunkel Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:34:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848220 re: Side Note. Mike, on the Hartwell thread, many readers were upset at the way you characterized the issue, the way you cavalierly treated her concerns, and the immaturity level in the comments, as Mike Doeff wrote, s now "just a notch higher than Digg." Do you have a response? Jon re: Side Note.

Mike, on the Hartwell thread, many readers were upset at the way you characterized the issue, the way you cavalierly treated her concerns, and the immaturity level in the comments, as Mike Doeff wrote, s now “just a notch higher than Digg.”

Do you have a response?

Jon

]]> By: Michael Arrington http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848219 Michael Arrington Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:34:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848219 gilltots - Lane said a few things off record that I won't repeat. My general impression is that she is confused and scared, but also very angry and self righteous. My guess is her lawyer has gotten her all riled up and thinking she's in the right. gilltots - Lane said a few things off record that I won’t repeat. My general impression is that she is confused and scared, but also very angry and self righteous. My guess is her lawyer has gotten her all riled up and thinking she’s in the right.

]]> By: Mark Fletcher http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848214 Mark Fletcher Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:28:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848214 I've been blogging my 23andMe experience over on http://www.wingedpig.com Mark I’ve been blogging my 23andMe experience over on http://www.wingedpig.com

Mark

]]> By: Scary http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848212 Scary Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:28:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848212 "24" TV show??!? Can Jack Bauer hunt these things? “24″ TV show??!? Can Jack Bauer hunt these things?

]]> By: Chris R. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848198 Chris R. Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:19:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/16/23andme-step-2-spitting-in-a-tube/#comment-1848198 "Chris R - isn’t there some other blog you could read?" fine “Chris R - isn’t there some other blog you could read?”

fine

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