Comments on: Forget the SanDisk Deal, NBC Direct Will Soon Have Free Downloads in HD http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/ Startup and Technology News Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:57:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: BitTorrent Is Now Streaming Movies (With Ads). But Where’s The Good Stuff? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1850260 BitTorrent Is Now Streaming Movies (With Ads). But Where’s The Good Stuff? Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:18:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1850260 [...] or Warner Brothers, for instance, could use it to stream long-form videos from their own sites. (NBC is planning on using P2P software from competitor Pando Networks to stream its video). Navin predicts: The [...] [...] or Warner Brothers, for instance, could use it to stream long-form videos from their own sites. (NBC is planning on using P2P software from competitor Pando Networks to stream its video). Navin predicts: The [...]

]]> By: Michelle http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835784 Michelle Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:15:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835784 I hate watching TV on my computer - I'd like to get away from my office sometime during the day. Can I put it on my iphone and take it with me traveling? If not then it personally doesn't interest me at all. I hate watching TV on my computer - I’d like to get away from my office sometime during the day. Can I put it on my iphone and take it with me traveling? If not then it personally doesn’t interest me at all.

]]> By: don http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835636 don Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:45:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835636 NBC is making some really huge drives into online video, and I really like the Hulu beta. It will be interesting to see if the current "less advertising, more content" model that seems to be driving Hulu, NBC Direct and other network online video initiatives continues over time. One of the reasons that peole hate their televisions right now is that for the most part, there is just "too much" advertising. We kill it with Tivo, we kill it online with peer to peer. If NBC wants success, it will moderate the ads and not try to junk up the system as the networks have done for the last 50 years. I looked at some very early (1950's) television programs complete with commercial sponsors the other day and was reminded how much like these new online initiatives that they felt... one sponsor, few commercial breaks. a really pleasant viewing experience. If TV had remained that way I would never have left. -Don NBC is making some really huge drives into online video, and I really like the Hulu beta.

It will be interesting to see if the current “less advertising, more content” model that seems to be driving Hulu, NBC Direct and other network online video initiatives continues over time.

One of the reasons that peole hate their televisions right now is that for the most part, there is just “too much” advertising. We kill it with Tivo, we kill it online with peer to peer. If NBC wants success, it will moderate the ads and not try to junk up the system as the networks have done for the last 50 years.

I looked at some very early (1950’s) television programs complete with commercial sponsors the other day and was reminded how much like these new online initiatives that they felt… one sponsor, few commercial breaks. a really pleasant viewing experience. If TV had remained that way I would never have left.

-Don

]]> By: Hari Seldon http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835259 Hari Seldon Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:17:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835259 Yawn. . . I agree with those here who don't see PC based video as anything to get excited about. If I can't get what I want on iTunes for use on my Apple TV, I'll get it via bit torrent. Call me a thief/pirate if you want. But f**k these bi***s, I was buying their TV shows on iTunes and they decided to get cute with his Steveness - f**k em Yawn. . .

I agree with those here who don’t see PC based video as anything to get excited about. If I can’t get what I want on iTunes for use on my Apple TV, I’ll get it via bit torrent. Call me a thief/pirate if you want. But f**k these bi***s, I was buying their TV shows on iTunes and they decided to get cute with his Steveness - f**k em

]]> By: Todd http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835229 Todd Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:45:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835229 FYI - Openhulu.com is available to all, no invite needed! Also, NBC is writing refund checks to all its advertisers: http://real-us.news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071211/tv_nm/nbc_dc ...the "hulu effect"? FYI - Openhulu.com is available to all, no invite needed!

Also, NBC is writing refund checks to all its advertisers:

http://real-us.news.yahoo.com/....._nm/nbc_dc

…the “hulu effect”?

]]> By: Ed http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835173 Ed Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:45:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835173 This is good news indeed. Now we'll just have to wait for 150 years until this is available in Europe. This is good news indeed. Now we’ll just have to wait for 150 years until this is available in Europe.

]]> By: Charles http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835102 Charles Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:36:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1835102 @Bill You should plug your computer into you HD tv; i.e. watch (HD) internet media via your computer on your 1080p TV. Try it. You will never go back. @Bill

You should plug your computer into you HD tv; i.e. watch (HD) internet media via your computer on your 1080p TV. Try it. You will never go back.

]]> By: Mark Smith http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834930 Mark Smith Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:31:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834930 Is NBC going to compensate people for the use of their upstream bandwidth? What happens if you want to use VOIP while you are helping NBC serve up HD? Is there some sort of QoS built into Pando? Does it work? In the case of piracy giving up upstream bandwidth may be a fair trade. But giving up upstream bandwidth to watch ads interspersed with NBC shows sounds not so fantastic. If I am missing something, please let me know. Is NBC going to compensate people for the use of their upstream bandwidth? What happens if you want to use VOIP while you are helping NBC serve up HD? Is there some sort of QoS built into Pando? Does it work?

In the case of piracy giving up upstream bandwidth may be a fair trade. But giving up upstream bandwidth to watch ads interspersed with NBC shows sounds not so fantastic. If I am missing something, please let me know.

]]> By: KirkH http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834897 KirkH Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:54:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834897 HD 720p isn't that much more data than a DVD when it's compressed with H.264. The purists will whine that it's not 1080p. Low tech point is that until the networks agree on a standard resolution, file format, and distribution system this is all pretty pointless. 720p - H.264 - BitTorrent would be a good start. What they really need to do is create a box that will play DVDs, HD-DVD, Blue-Ray, amp 5.1 speakers, DVR, Cable-card, wireless internet connection... at which point Joe Consumer would be able to replace all of the boxes under his TV with just one box and one remote. Forget about Hi-Def, people want simplicity. HD 720p isn’t that much more data than a DVD when it’s compressed with H.264. The purists will whine that it’s not 1080p.

Low tech point is that until the networks agree on a standard resolution, file format, and distribution system this is all pretty pointless.

720p - H.264 - BitTorrent would be a good start.

What they really need to do is create a box that will play DVDs, HD-DVD, Blue-Ray, amp 5.1 speakers, DVR, Cable-card, wireless internet connection… at which point Joe Consumer would be able to replace all of the boxes under his TV with just one box and one remote. Forget about Hi-Def, people want simplicity.

]]> By: iProtestant http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834885 iProtestant Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:40:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834885 i better be able to watch this stuff on my apple tv or they can suck it. i better be able to watch this stuff on my apple tv or they can suck it.

]]> By: Phil Dewey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834874 Phil Dewey Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:29:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834874 "HD video is going to come to the Web a lot faster than most people think." I think you're right. However I don't think it will matter. People in this industry segment forget that TV has always been, and will likely always be, about the immersible experience. In this one case smaller is NOT better. “HD video is going to come to the Web a lot faster than most people think.”

I think you’re right. However I don’t think it will matter. People in this industry segment forget that TV has always been, and will likely always be, about the immersible experience. In this one case smaller is NOT better.

]]> By: Wes http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834824 Wes Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:47:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834824 I think this a good move. I think it will certainly make some people consider watching tv on the web instead. I think this a good move. I think it will certainly make some people consider watching tv on the web instead.

]]> By: Joshua Walters http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834809 Joshua Walters Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:39:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834809 Meh, it will probably be DRM laden. Good for watching on the PC, maybe even the TV when I get a nice HD and hook my PC up to it, but it does me no good on my Zune. Meh, it will probably be DRM laden. Good for watching on the PC, maybe even the TV when I get a nice HD and hook my PC up to it, but it does me no good on my Zune.

]]> By: Steve Ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834593 Steve Ballmer Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:44:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834593 Let's see if I understand this: NBC leaves iTunes because they want to charge more money, then they give away content for free? yeah, now I see Let’s see if I understand this:
NBC leaves iTunes because they want to charge more money, then they give away content for free?

yeah, now I see

]]> By: Lelia Katherine Thomas http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834568 Lelia Katherine Thomas Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:36:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834568 This turns me on. This turns me on.

]]> By: scratchiti http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834543 scratchiti Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:27:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834543 "I’m not really interested in viewing HD on my 17″ monitor. My sofa is much more comfortable than my office chair!" Then maybe what we'll see is people setting up their 32" HD computer monitors in their living rooms with wireless keyboard and mouse sitting on top of the coffee table. “I’m not really interested in viewing HD on my 17″ monitor. My sofa is much more comfortable than my office chair!”

Then maybe what we’ll see is people setting up their 32″ HD computer monitors in their living rooms with wireless keyboard and mouse sitting on top of the coffee table.

]]> By: Angela Hayden http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834533 Angela Hayden Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:25:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834533 I love the idea. my family owns a hugn flat screen tv but we don't subscribe to any cable service because there too expensive. We only watch dvd's. So, if I can somehow watch regular shows on my computer, it would be great. you see. i have a nice flat screen, a couch and good sound system in my office. Make it so! sincerely, angela hayden art goddess I love the idea. my family owns a hugn flat screen tv but we don’t subscribe to any cable service because there too expensive. We only watch dvd’s.

So, if I can somehow watch regular shows on my computer, it would be great. you see. i have a nice flat screen, a couch and good sound system in my office.

Make it so!

sincerely,

angela hayden
art goddess

]]> By: hmm http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834432 hmm Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:52:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834432 Bill you just need a setup like this guy's http://techavid.com/internetTV.php pay no attention to the room itself .. just the set up. Thank you - lol Bill you just need a setup like this guy’s

http://techavid.com/internetTV.php

pay no attention to the room itself .. just the set up. Thank you - lol

]]> By: Bill http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834395 Bill Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:39:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11/forget-the-sandisk-deal-nbc-direct-will-soon-have-free-downloads-in-hd/#comment-1834395 I don't see movement away from the TV any time soon. I just spend $$$ on a beautiful 1080p flat screen TV, I'm not really interested in viewing HD on my 17" monitor. My sofa is much more comfortable than my office chair! AC3 sound is also much better on my livingroom. Bill I don’t see movement away from the TV any time soon. I just spend $$$ on a beautiful 1080p flat screen TV, I’m not really interested in viewing HD on my 17″ monitor. My sofa is much more comfortable than my office chair! AC3 sound is also much better on my livingroom.

Bill

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