Thank you!

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Of course, I’ll leave it up to most dim witted of you to figure out what it is I am agreeing with. ; )

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Politics aside, this is about First Amendment rights. Were his comments tastless and frightening? Yes, I’m sure they were. But think for a moment about the comments we all make, every day, that are sarcastic, and even a little “dark”? Haven’t you ever heard yourself say, “I’d like to kill that jerk!”? If not, then you’re a better human than I.

Buss, even if he were serious – which he wasn’t – should still have the right to say what he said. People allow the fear to take over their basic rights as free people, and that’s why we’re even having this conversation. I would rather live in fear of some freak accident than live in fear every day for being arrested for something I say.

Think about this: Today we can’t say cheeky comments about Columbine for fear of being simply arrested, but what’s in store for the future, and what “speech” will be considered “hateful” then? Will we be incarcerated for something that we may have said in a sarcastic manner?

As for James Buss, he was attempting to entrap someone, by exercising his First Amendment rights, to then attempt to take someone else’s away. The conservative/liberal thing is neither here, nor there. It could have worked the other way around just as easily. There are nimwits on both sides of the aisle, and I don’t believe that most Americans think that way. The issue is that our rights are being attacked. This man was arrested for a sarcastic comment, which is nothing short of ‘thought policing’, and everyone who has ever left a smart-assed, tongue-in-cheek comment on a website should be concerned about this. We should be thankful that the man wasn’t found guilty of anything by way of his speech, and we should be very concerned that he was arrested at all.

Some of us here in Illinois, I swear to God, were just about ready to go call up the ACLU and all the media stations after getting a visit from the Illinois State Police who were running around last January over some blog posting type thing. Unless there was more than they showed, it was a complete farce and a joke. Someone was merely swearing up a storm, and the police were asking (they were let in, obviously, because you think something happened in the neighborhood, right?), “Who talks like this?!”

Who talks like this?? What were they, the Pottymouth Police???

I am so not kidding! In Illinois, the most corrupt state in the union. It isn’t just Wisconsin.

So please write the media and the good columnists who write for your local main newspapers with the following message: KEEP ON THIS ISSUE.

Please. If you do something positive to end the year, make it a reminder to the press what you’d like to see covered. And cheers to the media and bloggers who are already on this Wisconsin case. Troll or no troll, he didn’t need to be arrested. That’s just out of line. You can understand if someone screams to high Heaven on your block, and then there’s a “disorderly conduct” issue (but wouldn’t the police first just tell the person to knock it off already, unless they were totally drunk, or something?), but this was online. NO ONE can tell proper context. And where was his warning?

The reason most hyperbole is overlooked is because most people aren’t in the wrong place at the wrong time. Political blogs have politicians posting on them at times, some with police protection around them, so naturally, those are places ripe for extra scrutiny. But even so, why not a warning first? Unbelievable.

Oh, and here in Illinois, when they were running around trying to badger it out of people who visited a certain political blog’s website, if you volunteered to take a polygraph to get them to buzz off, they didn’t even want to do it, right? When they thought you were seriously going to do just that, all of a sudden they hemmed and hawed and went, “OK, we’re letting you go.” See? Even they know they’re way out of line. They don’t want the polygraph PROOF showing how stupid and idiotic they are, probably.

It is NOT a crime to swear about your public officials, and it is certainly NOT a crime to make really bad taste cracks about Columbine. There are millions of people with really black humor out there (case in point: how come Ann Coulter is never arrested for inciting anyone to forcibly convert people to Christianity after killing their leaders? Ann should’ve been arrested quite a few times if the Hyperbole Police are so accurate that they’re well within the scope of the law, right?).

If ANYONE ever has problems with the Illinois or Wisconsin State Police…CALL THE MEDIA PRONTO.

You have to be pretty darn stupid not to notice the sarcasm in his words,however what I have understood from the majority of the replies around here and from the main article itself is that most of the people here are regarding his post as an inflammatory agitating trollying,which was meant to impersonate as the other side and thus deny its relevancy in the debate.
It’s a pretty low thing to do.

Nevertheless,no one deserves this kind of thing,not even a troll.

In this particular case,however,the only exuse for not seeing the sarcasm and classifying this teacher as a troll,is if your IQ test can prove that you are in fact a rock.
A very stupid rock I must add!

People need to get a sense of proportion. There was *no* threat implied in his comments whatsoever. Alluding to Columbine is hardly the same as threatening violence. If this is so, then I wonder how long it will be before the KKK and any members of white supremacist groups are summarily rounded up and incarcerated. While they are at it, they could also gather up Don King and others who promote/incite anti-white sentiment… is that not a call to violence? good grief.

You know what makes me the most sad? Not only that such a thing could happen AT ALL in the United States, but that I am hearing people who think this is OK. Sad, sad sad, our Forefathers have to be spinning in their graves. They were *explicit* about the need for absolute Freedom of Speech, because they knew all too well the dangers of letting the State decide what is, and is not, ‘proper.’

God help us all, because it is clear our elected officials have no intention to.

Even here,In the supposedly reasonable Blogsphere,most of the users(exept maybe one or two) are treating this issue so calmly!
So much reservation is beign expressed about “How awful,are the things he’s saying” et cetra et cetra, before FINALLY,you say that “I suppose that maybe…I guess he is covered by free speech,despite of what he is saying”.

Have you all lost your senses?!?!?!?!
Being prosecuted is the least of his problems,since I don’t really believe that any court in the world would ever condemn him.

His real problems are in the civic field.
Not only,that the police persecuted him,violated his privacy,threw him in jail,made him a whole bunch of trouble…But he also became publicly known,his job will be lost,he will be expelled from his social position(he is the head of some association),we all know that he would be discriminated, and from now on I doubht he would be able to get a good job once his employers will hear about this little affair.

Does this sounds proportional to you?
A man who’s dedicated his life to education,the is the only thing he knows how to do,will be forced to start his life from scratch discarding all his previous achievments and all of this because of something that he said?!?!

I don’t know if this is indeed a political arrest,or just segments of “Police Officials Gone Wild”(a new reallity show which FOX is planning),but either way,they ruin people lives for the sake of public entartaiment\satisfaction.

As for the comment itself…What have become of you?!
Is this really the first time you have encountered someone who deliberatly said something in exaggeration in order to show how ridiculuos it is and thus emphasizing its own point?

I for example used this technique countless times,and I would have been horrified if I was suddenly aressted.

Here in Illinois, there’s a blog called Capitol Fax where lots of bloggers and politicians post stuff under either their real names, or sometimes a screen name, and there’s absolutely no login or registration required to post comments, so anyone can goof around. Well, back in January, just before our Illinois pols were getting sworn in, someone (plural even? there can be multiple trolls mucking around, no doubt), a bunch of us were seeing people suddenly getting banned for profanity, or comments were posted under someone else’s regular screen name, followed by the blog owner posting a comment (in red) saying he could tell it wasn’t the real regular poster, so then he’d delete the comment and perhaps ban the IP, right?

Well, someone apparently either emailed, posted, or used one of those contact forms, and they wrote some silly rant about the Illinois governor, but from what they were running around showing people while trying to see if they could badger a confession out of ya if you’d wrote the thing, there was nothing overt. I mean, it even looked fake and silly and trollish to the average person, let alone if they’d gotten a real forensic shrink to do some serious personality profiling.

So, nothing really happened, but they were running around looking for whoever wrote this thing, and you should have seen it. It was silly. Stuff like someone hoped the governor got thrown in jail for corruption, or something. And a lot of swearing, but that looked like the worst extent of it.

So, now we’ve got the Hyperbole Police out on patrol knocking on doors in suburbia over nonsense, and we’ve got the Potty Police tapping their feet in bathroom stalls trying to bust supposedly gay come-ons in public restrooms. Meanwhile, some nut STILL managed to shoot a bunch of people at a Nebraska mall, and the 9/11 terrorists darn nearly took out the Pentagon.

Do you feel safer? I don’t. Now, you’re more afraid of boneheaded Keystone Cops.

Seriously. This needs to go far beyond the ACLU. The national cable news channels need to start dragging these cases out there so everyone can have a national debate about it. Of course people want the police to err on the side of caution, but when even the average Joe or Jane can see that some of this stuff is just really bad hyperbole, yet they’re going beyond questioning the guy and arresting him, that’s awful. He could have volunteered to take a polygraph to show that no, he’s not really planning any act of violence, and that could have been a voluntary way to at least calm them down a bit if there was any doubt. But a full-blown arrest? And it’s not even explicitly clear if it’s a threat, yet this guy now has a nasty mark on his record, that there’s a police report that he was arrested? That’s terrible.

He sounds like a loser for the trollish behavior, but I hope someone wins this one, and that it’s NOT the police in Wisconsin.

My son was suspended for three days when he was in 7th grade because he said in an essay he wanted to blow up the school.

I’m sure this fellow’s school has similar policies. He just thought that only under the authoritarian rubric of elementary school such things happen?

I do think it is out of hand that he was arrested. His comments don’t rise to action, and without action his transgression is thought crime. I might hate what he said, but I still subscribe to the notion that words can never hurt me.

No sir, I don’t like it.

What’s disturbing is that he was arrested for this. The USA is now apparently a police state. I washed my hands of you guys a year ago when you legalised detention without rights to fair trial. Now you have travel restrictions (that’s right, you Americans need to apply for permission to fly 48 hours in advance now), on-line surveillance and arrest for saying the “wrong” thing and an executive who does what he likes.

It really is amazing what can happen in the space of a few mismanaged years! The USA was such a great country but is now the moral equivalent of Burma. Too bad. I really do hope you guys can get your act together and bring your country back to the ranks of the free world.

Look at this one 41 year old bully picked 13 year old.
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Your comment leads me to think you do not need “free speech”. Also, the teacher wasn’t threatening anyone, so why arrest him? There are Nazi sympathizers all over the US who think that killing Jews is okay, should we arrest them? Read some of the biographies of our founding fathers and you’ll see the “need” for free speech.

Amazingly deceptive and immature as it pollutes any reasonable debate or discussion.

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1. China
2. Israel
3. Russia
4. USA

Next time somebody bitches about a blogger’s identity being revealed in China, Israel or some other country….please remember this.

Also, for the love of god, if you want to post anonymously in this country…that’s why we have libraries, just make sure they don’t have a camera watching who logs on to the computer.

But there’s no denying the fact that there’s no end to trolling on the net.