Comments on: TringMe Develops Its Own Flash Phone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:20:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Anil Rao http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1807779 Anil Rao Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:40:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1807779 I guess posting comments in TC helps you get an invite quickly :-) Yusuf, I used TringPhone and was very happy with the voice quality - nice job! Given the voice quality you are offering, why can't TringPhone provide this service to consumers directly ? Why are you allowing a user to configure VoIP providers settings or letting VoIP providers license tringphone? I mean, wouldn't the former option make more business sense from a revenue perspective? I guess posting comments in TC helps you get an invite quickly :-) Yusuf, I used TringPhone and was very happy with the voice quality - nice job! Given the voice quality you are offering, why can't TringPhone provide this service to consumers directly ? Why are you allowing a user to configure VoIP providers settings or letting VoIP providers license tringphone? I mean, wouldn't the former option make more business sense from a revenue perspective? I guess posting comments in TC helps you get an invite quickly :-)

Yusuf, I used TringPhone and was very happy with the voice quality - nice job! Given the voice quality you are offering, why can’t TringPhone provide this service to consumers directly ? Why are you allowing a user to configure VoIP providers settings or letting VoIP providers license tringphone? I mean, wouldn’t the former option make more business sense from a revenue perspective?

I guess posting comments in TC helps you get an invite quickly :-)

Yusuf, I used TringPhone and was very happy with the voice quality - nice job! Given the voice quality you are offering, why can’t TringPhone provide this service to consumers directly ? Why are you allowing a user to configure VoIP providers settings or letting VoIP providers license tringphone? I mean, wouldn’t the former option make more business sense from a revenue perspective?

]]> By: Karmavision http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1807050 Karmavision Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:43:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1807050 Great Idea. Fantastic concept. I can't wait to try it. Great Idea. Fantastic concept. I can’t wait to try it.

]]> By: Greg http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806997 Greg Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:00:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806997 Yusuf, I have already mailed bizdev@tringme.com a few mins back and awaiting a reply. We are interested in utilizing your technology. Can you setup an invite for us ASAP? Yusuf, I have already mailed bizdev@tringme.com a few mins back and awaiting a reply. We are interested in utilizing your technology. Can you setup an invite for us ASAP?

]]> By: Tom http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806972 Tom Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:49:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806972 17: Actually, I thought it was Flash. No? Java? Well, whatever. If you really want a ludicrous widget-capable VoIP app, the Gizmo project is built in in XUL, I believe. And Dialpad didn't let you choose your own SIP server, but then again neither will anyone who buys and resells Tring's service. As with pretty much everything else on TC these days, this is just an interface sitting on top of a genuinely great but not-actually-new technology (SIP, in this case). Are you really telling me that a user will buy and install a mic/headset combo on their PC, but will be unwilling to make the extra commitment of installing a native app? It's ludicrous. I can imagine firms buying this as a skinnable click-to-call app. But that's a pretty small market, and of course RingCentral, GrandCentral, Skype and who knows how many others are already there. 17: Actually, I thought it was Flash. No? Java? Well, whatever. If you really want a ludicrous widget-capable VoIP app, the Gizmo project is built in in XUL, I believe.

And Dialpad didn’t let you choose your own SIP server, but then again neither will anyone who buys and resells Tring’s service.

As with pretty much everything else on TC these days, this is just an interface sitting on top of a genuinely great but not-actually-new technology (SIP, in this case). Are you really telling me that a user will buy and install a mic/headset combo on their PC, but will be unwilling to make the extra commitment of installing a native app? It’s ludicrous.

I can imagine firms buying this as a skinnable click-to-call app. But that’s a pretty small market, and of course RingCentral, GrandCentral, Skype and who knows how many others are already there.

]]> By: Yusuf Motiwala http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806927 Yusuf Motiwala Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:30:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806927 @JD, as a key member of TringMe team, if I may respond to you question, the references to "Flash" in this article are to "Adobe-Flash". At this point, TringPhone and other TringMe widgets, all meant for web-telephony can work in any flash-enabled browser. We have working prototypes of the functionality on mobile devices but I can't disclose many details here yet :). Feel free to write back to me if you want more details. @Anil Rao, their are a couple of business models (licensing, partnering etc) that we are currently working on. But we are completely convinced that ubiquitous calling, connectivity, ability to use any VoIP providers and in general opening up the VoIP world will definitely happen. @Megan, let us know how we can help you. @Tom, as BlogReader has mentioned, our technology is Adobe-Flash based and uses VoIP. One can customize TringMe to work with any VoIP provider. Do read http://blog.tringme.com in case you are interested in knowing other details. In general, TringMe team appreciates comments and criticisms for TringPhone (& other TringMe widgets). Thanks much Regards, Yusuf @JD, as a key member of TringMe team, if I may respond to you question, the references to “Flash” in this article are to “Adobe-Flash”.
At this point, TringPhone and other TringMe widgets, all meant for web-telephony can work in any flash-enabled browser. We have working prototypes of the functionality on mobile devices but I can’t disclose many details here yet :). Feel free to write back to me if you want more details.

@Anil Rao, their are a couple of business models (licensing, partnering etc) that we are currently working on. But we are completely convinced that ubiquitous calling, connectivity, ability to use any VoIP providers and in general opening up the VoIP world will definitely happen.

@Megan, let us know how we can help you.

@Tom, as BlogReader has mentioned, our technology is Adobe-Flash based and uses VoIP. One can customize TringMe to work with any VoIP provider. Do read http://blog.tringme.com in case you are interested in knowing other details.

In general, TringMe team appreciates comments and criticisms for TringPhone (& other TringMe widgets). Thanks much

Regards,
Yusuf

]]> By: BlogReader http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806871 BlogReader Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:47:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806871 <i>DIALPAD DID THIS IN 1999. I remember using it from my dorm room.</i> But it wasn't in Flash and didn't do it via VOiP!!1! This is web 3.0!1!!!! DIALPAD DID THIS IN 1999. I remember using it from my dorm room.

But it wasn’t in Flash and didn’t do it via VOiP!!1! This is web 3.0!1!!!!

]]> By: Tom http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806816 Tom Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:17:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806816 Jesus christ. This is news? This is innovative technology? DIALPAD DID THIS IN 1999. I remember using it from my dorm room. This is pathetic. Jesus christ. This is news? This is innovative technology?

DIALPAD DID THIS IN 1999. I remember using it from my dorm room.

This is pathetic.

]]> By: John Dowdell http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806584 John Dowdell Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:42:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806584 Hi Erick, when you say "Flash", what do you mean? Do these applications run within the Adobe Flash mobile or laptop engines? Or is there a connection to "flash" memory? Or does the word come from something else? (I suspect it's the first, but the bodytext is not clear.) tx, jd/adobe Hi Erick, when you say “Flash”, what do you mean?

Do these applications run within the Adobe Flash mobile or laptop engines? Or is there a connection to “flash” memory? Or does the word come from something else?

(I suspect it’s the first, but the bodytext is not clear.)

tx, jd/adobe

]]> By: Anil Rao http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806562 Anil Rao Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:37:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806562 VoiP battle has just begun - jajaj, jaxtr, grandcental, tringme and now zunephone – anyone doing business here? VoiP battle has just begun - jajaj, jaxtr, grandcental, tringme and now zunephone – anyone doing business here?

]]> By: Megan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806546 Megan Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:28:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806546 Slick looking phone. I was looking for something like this to replace activex control on our new website. We will try to integrate tringphone. It worked on all browsers i tred. Slick looking phone. I was looking for something like this to replace activex control on our new website. We will try to integrate tringphone. It worked on all browsers i tred.

]]> By: Rubi http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806536 Rubi Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:25:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806536 I tryed both, haven't experienced any probs. I tryed both, haven’t experienced any probs.

]]> By: Nick http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806535 Nick Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:22:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806535 Tried both russian flashphone, and this one, quality of russian flashphone was much better, and it's easier to use. But this is also very promising. Tried both russian flashphone, and this one, quality of russian flashphone was much better, and it’s easier to use. But this is also very promising.

]]> By: Jacob http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806510 Jacob Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:07:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806510 Frankly, russian flashphone worked only once and never again, quality was bad. This is much better. Frankly, russian flashphone worked only once and never again, quality was bad. This is much better.

]]> By: Flasher http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806492 Flasher Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:55:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806492 I've read here http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/flashbased-flashphone-adds-new-features.asp that russian flashphone supports inbound/outgoing calls using your SIP accounts now, so it very interesting to compare these startups. Advantage of flashphone is that their beta test is opened for everyone, no need for invites I’ve read here http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/to.....atures.asp that russian flashphone supports inbound/outgoing calls using your SIP accounts now, so it very interesting to compare these startups. Advantage of flashphone is that their beta test is opened for everyone, no need for invites

]]> By: Chris R. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806472 Chris R. Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:46:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806472 OMG, a voip flash phone, and it's so awesome looking. thanks TC! OMG, a voip flash phone, and it’s so awesome looking. thanks TC!

]]> By: Steve Ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806449 Steve Ballmer Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:38:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806449 ZunePhone is coming and will dominate from day 2! http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com ZunePhone is coming and will dominate from day 2!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

]]> By: Andy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806380 Andy Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:30:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806380 @Karim, a true SIP implementation done in Flash wouldn't necessarily require an intermediary to connect to an enterprise's existing VoIP platform. Besides, there's one notable competitor that doesn't have this vulnerability -- the existing phone network. @Karim, a true SIP implementation done in Flash wouldn’t necessarily require an intermediary to connect to an enterprise’s existing VoIP platform. Besides, there’s one notable competitor that doesn’t have this vulnerability — the existing phone network.

]]> By: Karim http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806372 Karim Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:18:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806372 @Andy, isn't it true for every voip service? Not a big concern really. I have been a tringme user and have been happy with their widgets so far. Their voice quality is excellent and this definitely takes it up a notch. @Andy, isn’t it true for every voip service? Not a big concern really.

I have been a tringme user and have been happy with their widgets so far. Their voice quality is excellent and this definitely takes it up a notch.

]]> By: Andy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806365 Andy Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:06:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806365 It's a good idea, but it's not really a generic SIP client built in Flash. According to the diagrams at http://blog.tringme.com/tringme-launches-toll-free-platform-for-enterprises/ your calls make a stopover at their server first. The privacy concerns over having your unencrypted calls routing through a 3rd party provider seems like a pretty big hurdle to adoption. It’s a good idea, but it’s not really a generic SIP client built in Flash. According to the diagrams at http://blog.tringme.com/tringm.....terprises/ your calls make a stopover at their server first. The privacy concerns over having your unencrypted calls routing through a 3rd party provider seems like a pretty big hurdle to adoption.

]]> By: Jim http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806260 Jim Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:24:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806260 Neat idea. I like the concept of using a phone from a browser and not tie myself to an application and this seems to fit quite well. Neat idea. I like the concept of using a phone from a browser and not tie myself to an application and this seems to fit quite well.

]]> By: Randhir http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806234 Randhir Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:59:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806234 I have been following TringMe and have interacted with the founder. Happy to see that they are building a platform and releasing services like these on it. Now if only they can publicly open up and not stay in invite-only beta for too long. Eventhough, it\'s a nice technical solution, what kind of apps is TringMe or others thinking to develop on this? I have been following TringMe and have interacted with the founder. Happy to see that they are building a platform and releasing services like these on it. Now if only they can publicly open up and not stay in invite-only beta for too long. Eventhough, it\’s a nice technical solution, what kind of apps is TringMe or others thinking to develop on this?

]]> By: Paul http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806216 Paul Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:49:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/tringme-develops-its-own-flash-phone/#comment-1806216 Brilliant. I tried their earlier widget. Great stuff and clear voice but wasn't of much use since they are in beta and gives away limited phone credits. I haven't tried this but I should be able to use it with voipstunt for free calls .. will request an invite. I liked the idea of not tying up with single provider. Brilliant. I tried their earlier widget. Great stuff and clear voice but wasn’t of much use since they are in beta and gives away limited phone credits. I haven’t tried this but I should be able to use it with voipstunt for free calls .. will request an invite. I liked the idea of not tying up with single provider.

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