Comments on: The 700 MHz Spectrum Auctions. Who’s In, Who’s Out. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/ Startup and Technology News Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:19:41 -0800 hourly 1 By: The OPLIN 4cast » Blog Archive » 4cast #81: Spectrum Auction, Kindle, Reading, Gaming http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2431392 The OPLIN 4cast » Blog Archive » 4cast #81: Spectrum Auction, Kindle, Reading, Gaming Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:34:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-2431392 [...] The 700 MHz Spectrum Auction. Who’s In, Who’s Out. (TechCrunch) [...] [...] The 700 MHz Spectrum Auction. Who’s In, Who’s Out. (TechCrunch) [...]

]]> By: Regional Bets Pull Ahead in Wireless Spectrum Auction | oscarpages http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1977105 Regional Bets Pull Ahead in Wireless Spectrum Auction | oscarpages Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:12:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1977105 [...] notable turn of events just happened in the FCC’s auction for 700 MHz wireless spectrum that began on January 24. Throughout most of the auction, the highest [...] [...] notable turn of events just happened in the FCC’s auction for 700 MHz wireless spectrum that began on January 24. Throughout most of the auction, the highest [...]

]]> By: Wireless Spectrum Auction Might Be Over For Coveted C-Block. But Who Won, Google or Verizon? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1955773 Wireless Spectrum Auction Might Be Over For Coveted C-Block. But Who Won, Google or Verizon? Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:52:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1955773 [...] most closely-watched part of the wireless auction for the 700 MHz spectrum that started earlier this week appears to be over. The auction for the [...] [...] most closely-watched part of the wireless auction for the 700 MHz spectrum that started earlier this week appears to be over. The auction for the [...]

]]> By: Grayson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1856186 Grayson Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:06:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1856186 Google and Frontline, eh? Will Will Lyman be doing the auctioneering? He could make even Alvin and the Chipmunks threatening. Google and Frontline, eh? Will Will Lyman be doing the auctioneering? He could make even Alvin and the Chipmunks threatening.

]]> By: FCC Reveals 700MHz Wireless Auction Bidders http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1855455 FCC Reveals 700MHz Wireless Auction Bidders Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:40:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1855455 [...] the FCC announced the list of applicants to the upcoming 700 MHz spectrum auction. Of the 266 applications submitted, only 96 were accepted, and another 170 were deemed incomplete [...] [...] the FCC announced the list of applicants to the upcoming 700 MHz spectrum auction. Of the 266 applications submitted, only 96 were accepted, and another 170 were deemed incomplete [...]

]]> By: Russell Heimlich http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1809669 Russell Heimlich Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:17:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1809669 Well on eBay I always wait until the last minute and then bid up a storm... Well on eBay I always wait until the last minute and then bid up a storm…

]]> By: Charbax http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1809381 Charbax Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:14:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1809381 Google 10 billion, free wireless broadband for all.. Then does the same in Europe. Google 10 billion, free wireless broadband for all.. Then does the same in Europe.

]]> By: Mike Malone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1809176 Mike Malone Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:00:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1809176 The best strategy depends on the type of auction. If it's a second-price sealed auction, for example, the only real strategy is to be honest and submit the maximum price you're actually willing to pay (if you're trying to win). The best strategy depends on the type of auction. If it’s a second-price sealed auction, for example, the only real strategy is to be honest and submit the maximum price you’re actually willing to pay (if you’re trying to win).

]]> By: Jolly Hockey Stix http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1809080 Jolly Hockey Stix Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:21:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1809080 As Tony Carson wrote, Google are only in this because they are obliged to be. They are not in the business of running a mobile network and don't want to win. I would expect them to bid the minimum necessary amount of $4.6B and leave it at that. They do not want to force any other operator to over-pay as this might slow down the network build out. Google wants the Internet to stay open that is all. As Tony Carson wrote, Google are only in this because they are obliged to be. They are not in the business of running a mobile network and don’t want to win.

I would expect them to bid the minimum necessary amount of $4.6B and leave it at that. They do not want to force any other operator to over-pay as this might slow down the network build out. Google wants the Internet to stay open that is all.

]]> By: file2fone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808972 file2fone Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:38:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808972 It is hard to predict about their strategy unless google give some clue about this. It is hard to predict about their strategy unless google give some clue about this.

]]> By: Anglictina http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808916 Anglictina Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:16:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808916 Google don t buy 700 MHz spectrum, this is rummor Google don t buy 700 MHz spectrum, this is rummor

]]> By: Faramarz http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808892 Faramarz Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:09:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808892 Google is not in the business of 'borrowing' and paying dues. they have enough cash to outbid even the most outrageous amount. If ATT won't have it, you bet they'll give Google a run for their money. similar auction is happening in Canada. I wish there were so much interest over here as well. oligopoly in our market is getting people fed up Google is not in the business of ‘borrowing’ and paying dues. they have enough cash to outbid even the most outrageous amount. If ATT won’t have it, you bet they’ll give Google a run for their money.

similar auction is happening in Canada. I wish there were so much interest over here as well. oligopoly in our market is getting people fed up

]]> By: Ed Heacox http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808885 Ed Heacox Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:07:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808885 So how much cash will the FCC raise in this auction? AT&T and GOOGLE are likely to drive bidding... but how high? The Predictify crowd is predicting a final price over $21 billion. Could the price go so high? http://www.predictify.com/AuctionView.aspx?ID=232 So how much cash will the FCC raise in this auction? AT&T and GOOGLE are likely to drive bidding… but how high? The Predictify crowd is predicting a final price over $21 billion. Could the price go so high? http://www.pred...iew.aspx?ID=232

]]> By: Shayne Easterwood http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808757 Shayne Easterwood Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:14:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808757 I say Google, for sure. They've banked on winning the spectrum to launch their "much anticipated" Google Phone on their own network. Why share when you can keep all the profits to yourself?! I say Google, for sure. They’ve banked on winning the spectrum to launch their “much anticipated” Google Phone on their own network. Why share when you can keep all the profits to yourself?!

]]> By: name (required) http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808674 name (required) Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:33:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808674 the name for these things in econospeak is common value auctions. The general gotcha is that the entity which wins the auction is the one which has the most overinflated impression of the asset's value. kinda like buying a car at auction - it may be a lemon, but the one who wins the auction is most likely not thinking that it's a lemon, hence the high bid. the name for these things in econospeak is common value auctions. The general gotcha is that the entity which wins the auction is the one which has the most overinflated impression of the asset’s value.

kinda like buying a car at auction – it may be a lemon, but the one who wins the auction is most likely not thinking that it’s a lemon, hence the high bid.

]]> By: Chameleon Headsets http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808611 Chameleon Headsets Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:58:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808611 My money's on Google. Coupled with Android, they will re-write the book on mobile access, like they've done with everthing else they put their tremendous talent into. Bill Burke http://wirelessspeech.blogspot.com My money’s on Google.
Coupled with Android, they will re-write the book on mobile access, like they’ve done with everthing else they put their tremendous talent into.

Bill Burke
http://wireless...ch.blogspot.com

]]> By: Steve Ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808465 Steve Ballmer Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:50:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808465 My money is on the "Big ol expensive phone company" ATT! They will want to keep this away from any potential competitors just to maintain their stranglehold on your phone! I would! http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com My money is on the “Big ol expensive phone company” ATT!
They will want to keep this away from any potential competitors
just to maintain their stranglehold on your phone! I would!

http://fakestev...er.blogspot.com

]]> By: Tony Casson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808464 Tony Casson Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:50:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808464 Google is in the auction because they asked for four concessions from the FCC and received two of them centered around open access. First and foremost, they needed to participate, regardless of whether their business strategy calls for them to win. Their huge bankroll will help drive the winning bid up if they don't win and of course will result in a higher price paid if they do. Either way, if they didn't participate their political capital would have been seriously devalued if they'd sat on the sidelines. Google is in the auction because they asked for four concessions from the FCC and received two of them centered around open access. First and foremost, they needed to participate, regardless of whether their business strategy calls for them to win. Their huge bankroll will help drive the winning bid up if they don’t win and of course will result in a higher price paid if they do. Either way, if they didn’t participate their political capital would have been seriously devalued if they’d sat on the sidelines.

]]> By: Web Design in Australia http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808228 Web Design in Australia Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:04:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808228 If I were to bet - I'd bet Google - As Malte Landwer (7) said - it's the next logical step - they're working their way up the network layers. As I read on another blog - "Google don't want to just organise information on the Internet - They want to BE the internet" - Tim If I were to bet – I’d bet Google – As Malte Landwer (7) said – it’s the next logical step – they’re working their way up the network layers.

As I read on another blog – “Google don’t want to just organise information on the Internet – They want to BE the internet”

- Tim

]]> By: Malte Landwer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808077 Malte Landwer Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:39:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808077 After having purchased millions of kilometers of fiber wire a 700MHz license is the next logical step for Google and I guess we all know hat they have enough money. Regardless of what their opponents might bid. And after investing way too much money in the German UMTS licenses I don't expect T Mobile to give the 700 a try. After having purchased millions of kilometers of fiber wire a 700MHz license is the next logical step for Google and I guess we all know hat they have enough money. Regardless of what their opponents might bid.

And after investing way too much money in the German UMTS licenses I don’t expect T Mobile to give the 700 a try.

]]> By: Ariel Sharon http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1808015 Ariel Sharon Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:58:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1808015 Obviously, the picture is a photo of 700 MHz spinning around Obviously, the picture is a photo of 700 MHz spinning around

]]> By: Kieran http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1807923 Kieran Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:13:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1807923 Does anybody know what type of auction it is? (English, Dutch, Vickrey etc.) Does anybody know what type of auction it is? (English, Dutch, Vickrey etc.)

]]> By: The Fucking Rich Girl http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1807889 The Fucking Rich Girl Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:53:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1807889 Anybody still doubt about what is gonna happen in a closer future? Google will represent Internet Big Brother. They already have the information power, but they will have the network power. Anybody still doubt about what is gonna happen in a closer future?
Google will represent Internet Big Brother. They already have the information power, but they will have the network power.

]]> By: IanDanforth http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1807888 IanDanforth Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:51:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1807888 Can someone clue me into the kinds of strategies that can go into this? It seems like all a bidder knows after each round is the dollar value each other bidder offers. Since they are forbidden from talking to each other, and there isn't much room for offering creative deals to the government, how can this be much of a game? Won't they just keep increasing their price until it meets some limit the corporations have already decided? Can the companies seek additional outside support once they've started bidding? Or is colluding with non-bidders also prohibited? Can someone clue me into the kinds of strategies that can go into this? It seems like all a bidder knows after each round is the dollar value each other bidder offers. Since they are forbidden from talking to each other, and there isn’t much room for offering creative deals to the government, how can this be much of a game? Won’t they just keep increasing their price until it meets some limit the corporations have already decided? Can the companies seek additional outside support once they’ve started bidding? Or is colluding with non-bidders also prohibited?

]]> By: Luminosity http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1807791 Luminosity Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:50:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/the-700-mhz-spectrum-auctions-whos-in-whos-out/#comment-1807791 It's always funny when people try to sell things that belong to no one. It’s always funny when people try to sell things that belong to no one.

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