Comments on: Six Apart Sells LiveJournal To Russia’s SUP http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:06:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: TechCrunch en français » Six Apart lance son réseau publicitaire et des services web http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-2206341 TechCrunch en français » Six Apart lance son réseau publicitaire et des services web Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:16:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-2206341 [...] de vendre de la publicité tout seul sur son réseau de blogs, sur LiveJournal (avant sa vente) et sur Vox. Chris Alden , le CEO affirme qu’ils ont de l’expérience dans la vente à [...] [...] de vendre de la publicité tout seul sur son réseau de blogs, sur LiveJournal (avant sa vente) et sur Vox. Chris Alden , le CEO affirme qu’ils ont de l’expérience dans la vente à [...]

]]> By: Six Apart Launches Ad Network, Moves Into Services http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-2206074 Six Apart Launches Ad Network, Moves Into Services Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:04:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-2206074 [...] has long sold advertising for itself on its network of free blogs on LiveJournal (before it was sold) and Vox. CEO Chris Alden says they have significant experience in grouping like-blogs and selling [...] [...] has long sold advertising for itself on its network of free blogs on LiveJournal (before it was sold) and Vox. CEO Chris Alden says they have significant experience in grouping like-blogs and selling [...]

]]> By: ReadyState4 » Blog Archive » Division of most popular social networks by country http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-2032292 ReadyState4 » Blog Archive » Division of most popular social networks by country Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:05:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-2032292 [...] in second) and that Live Journal is tremendously popular in Russia (a Russian company actually bought LiveJournal from Six Apart a few months ago). Also that Google’s Orkut is tremendously popular in Brazil [...] [...] in second) and that Live Journal is tremendously popular in Russia (a Russian company actually bought LiveJournal from Six Apart a few months ago). Also that Google’s Orkut is tremendously popular in Brazil [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Qui Google rachètera-t-il en 2008 ? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1918006 TechCrunch en français » Qui Google rachètera-t-il en 2008 ? Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:58:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1918006 [...] uniquement un fournisseur d’outils pour bloggeurs. LiveJournal , concurrent de Blooger a été vendue et MovableType est passée en Open source. Typepad offre une solution de blogging payante que [...] [...] uniquement un fournisseur d’outils pour bloggeurs. LiveJournal , concurrent de Blooger a été vendue et MovableType est passée en Open source. Typepad offre une solution de blogging payante que [...]

]]> By: Georg http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1853240 Georg Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:27:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1853240 Not sure about importancy of LJ for russian speaking community now but a couple of years ago it was growing very fast. I think now a huge part of russian speaking LJ users and newcoming internet users rushing to use a brand new services on russian internet scene such as vkontakte.ru (facebook clone) and odnoklassniki.ru. Not sure about importancy of LJ for russian speaking community now but a couple of years ago it was growing very fast. I think now a huge part of russian speaking LJ users and newcoming internet users rushing to use a brand new services on russian internet scene such as vkontakte.ru (facebook clone) and odnoklassniki.ru.

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 2008年、Googleの買収と競合は誰になる？ http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1850900 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » 2008年、Googleの買収と競合は誰になる？ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:33:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1850900 [...] 今年SixApartは大きな転換期を迎えている。その結果、現在SixApartはブログツールの主な企業プロバイダとなっている。Bloggerのライバルでほぼ無料の「LiveJournal」は売却され、Movable Typeは オープンソースとなった。これは、ひとつにはブログ・プラットフォームを（以前そうだったように）ほぼ利用料無料で運営していく煩わしさを取り除いた試みといえる。 [...] [...] 今年SixApartは大きな転換期を迎えている。その結果、現在SixApartはブログツールの主な企業プロバイダとなっている。Bloggerのライバルでほぼ無料の「LiveJournal」は売却され、Movable Typeは オープンソースとなった。これは、ひとつにはブログ・プラットフォームを（以前そうだったように）ほぼ利用料無料で運営していく煩わしさを取り除いた試みといえる。 [...]

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1808878 John Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:06:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1808878 An interesting video report on this issue! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7gfyE1Taa4 YouTube An interesting video report on this issue!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7gfyE1Taa4

YouTube

]]> By: Dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1807954 Dave Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:24:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1807954 Did anyone hear that LiveJournal tried to acquire Amateurmatch but they declined? I mean I havent heard anything about that for Amateurmatch Did anyone hear that LiveJournal tried to acquire Amateurmatch but they declined? I mean I havent heard anything about that for Amateurmatch

]]> By: vepa http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1807055 vepa Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:50:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1807055 Is there any other free blog providers in Russia? I know mail.ru has simple blog feature. Haven't seen any proper russian blog services. Is there any other free blog providers in Russia? I know mail.ru has simple blog feature. Haven’t seen any proper russian blog services.

]]> By: Forsooth http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806756 Forsooth Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:19:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806756 The freest political forum in Russia is a hot potato to more than just the Russian elite it seems. The freest political forum in Russia is a hot potato to more than just the Russian elite it seems.

]]> By: EastSmith http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806715 EastSmith Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:51:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806715 I forgot, the blog was at Livejournal: http://community.livejournal.com/vibory_light I forgot, the blog was at Livejournal:
http://community.livejournal.com/vibory_light

]]> By: EastSmith http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806709 EastSmith Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:45:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806709 VERY, VERY SAD! There were parliamentary "elections" in Russia yesterday and there was a blog, which was fallowing all the law violations (which were infinite) and was anti-Putin. If the rumors (government backed buying) are true, and I thing they are, this is Russia buying logs for every user LiveJournal ever had. Very, very sad. I found the buying at Sunday when the elections just ended to be very interesting. And when I say there were "elections", I mean: 1. 99,9% in the state of Chukotka voted pro Putin ?!?!?!?!?!? 2. There were opposition leaders in the arrests! 3. No free press, government supported EVERYWHERE in media, and the only place left is Internet. Living in Eastern Europe and lived during communism, I can tell something is coming from Russia ... and you won't like it. VERY, VERY SAD!

There were parliamentary “elections” in Russia yesterday and there was a blog, which was fallowing all the law violations (which were infinite) and was anti-Putin.

If the rumors (government backed buying) are true, and I thing they are, this is Russia buying logs for every user LiveJournal ever had. Very, very sad.

I found the buying at Sunday when the elections just ended to be very interesting.

And when I say there were “elections”, I mean:
1. 99,9% in the state of Chukotka voted pro Putin ?!?!?!?!?!?
2. There were opposition leaders in the arrests!
3. No free press, government supported EVERYWHERE in media, and the only place left is Internet.

Living in Eastern Europe and lived during communism, I can tell something is coming from Russia … and you won’t like it.

]]> By: Naka http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806663 Naka Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:16:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806663 What really amazes me is the number of commenters who seem to think this is a good thing. SixApart knew full well of the opposition in the Russian-speaking segment of their customer base to SUP. There was a wave of indignation and opt-outs when they allowed SUP to do part of the support. Despite this knowledge they basically sold their customers down the river. What really amazes me is the number of commenters who seem to think this is a good thing.

SixApart knew full well of the opposition in the Russian-speaking segment of their customer base to SUP. There was a wave of indignation and opt-outs when they allowed SUP to do part of the support. Despite this knowledge they basically sold their customers down the river.

]]> By: joey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806621 joey Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:53:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806621 Dave - they do seem very reclusive! Dave - they do seem very reclusive!

]]> By: dave mcclure http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806607 dave mcclure Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:49:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806607 i have yet to see someone do a more in-depth piece reviewing SixApart business strategy (or lack thereof) & fundamentals... seems like someone could put a really interesting story together on this. <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2007/tc2007123_052837.htm" rel="nofollow">sarah lacey's article over on BusinessWeek</a> is a nice opinion fluff piece, but there's got to be someone willing to do the hard digging to put together real #'s on the LJ sale, the 3 remaining properties, and 6A's overall prospects for acquisition vs IPO vs further investment. the company is perhaps 2nd only to Yahoo in terms of potential opportunity yet-to-be-realized... what the hell is going on over there? why hasn't a deal happened? are they profitable or not? are they an acquisition target or not? has the CEO turnover resulted in material change in strategy? if anyone's seen a more in-depth article on 6A, please provide link. i have yet to see someone do a more in-depth piece reviewing SixApart business strategy (or lack thereof) & fundamentals… seems like someone could put a really interesting story together on this.

sarah lacey’s article over on BusinessWeek is a nice opinion fluff piece, but there’s got to be someone willing to do the hard digging to put together real #’s on the LJ sale, the 3 remaining properties, and 6A’s overall prospects for acquisition vs IPO vs further investment.

the company is perhaps 2nd only to Yahoo in terms of potential opportunity yet-to-be-realized… what the hell is going on over there? why hasn’t a deal happened? are they profitable or not? are they an acquisition target or not? has the CEO turnover resulted in material change in strategy?

if anyone’s seen a more in-depth article on 6A, please provide link.

]]> By: Steve Ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806483 Steve Ballmer Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:49:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806483 Russian businesses are not to be trusted, especially when the executives have tattoos! http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com Russian businesses are not to be trusted, especially when the executives have tattoos!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

]]> By: Kikerberg http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806358 Kikerberg Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:01:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806358 I guess Putin has the root password now for the LiveJournal servers. I guess Putin has the root password now for the LiveJournal servers.

]]> By: joey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806311 joey Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:05:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806311 Michael - where is your analysis on this? It seems you just cut and pasted the SA press release. My analysis: LJ was a distraction for SA. This should allow SA to concentrate on it's core products. MT - DIY and Enterprises TP - bloggers, ads and professional Vox - social and personal Michael - where is your analysis on this? It seems you just cut and pasted the SA press release.

My analysis: LJ was a distraction for SA. This should allow SA to concentrate on it’s core products.

MT - DIY and Enterprises
TP - bloggers, ads and professional
Vox - social and personal

]]> By: Mark Evans http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806225 Mark Evans Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:53:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806225 Interesting strategic move given the traffic and the brand name. I wonder what this means strategically. Does TypePad need the cash? Interesting strategic move given the traffic and the brand name. I wonder what this means strategically. Does TypePad need the cash?

]]> By: Yuri Ammosov http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806123 Yuri Ammosov Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:42:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806123 Kashif: if US dollar falls relative to your home currency, this makes US more competitive against your country, not less. Time to move back to Bay Area. Kashif: if US dollar falls relative to your home currency, this makes US more competitive against your country, not less. Time to move back to Bay Area.

]]> By: Kashif http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806099 Kashif Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:13:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806099 Good to see things moving out of US. With falling dollar and geo-political unrest created by the US, we can see more of this in future. Next: TechCrunch acquired by somebody in Vietnam :) Good to see things moving out of US. With falling dollar and geo-political unrest created by the US, we can see more of this in future. Next: TechCrunch acquired by somebody in Vietnam :)

]]> By: » LiveJournal sold to Russian firm, SUP | IT News Digest | TechRepublic.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806075 » LiveJournal sold to Russian firm, SUP | IT News Digest | TechRepublic.com Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:52:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806075 [...] involves accounts of more than 14 million users but the move to the Russian side means that several users have begun worrying about [...] [...] involves accounts of more than 14 million users but the move to the Russian side means that several users have begun worrying about [...]

]]> By: Yuri Ammosov http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806073 Yuri Ammosov Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:51:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806073 Stan: I understand the reasons for your assumption but so far all interest has been purely commercial. Stan: I understand the reasons for your assumption but so far all interest has been purely commercial.

]]> By: Andy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806043 Andy Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:17:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806043 I'd expect the price around 5-10M dollars Russian companies sell&buy one user for 5-10 dollars (considering last "runet" merge and sales) so I would expect say 7 dollars for each one of 1.5 mln Russian users I’d expect the price around 5-10M dollars
Russian companies sell&buy one user for 5-10 dollars (considering last “runet” merge and sales) so I would expect say 7 dollars for each one of 1.5 mln Russian users

]]> By: Stan Ostachevski http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806034 Stan Ostachevski Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:10:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/02/six-apart-sells-livejournal-to-sup/#comment-1806034 Whatever the price is: $7.5 or $30M, don't forget it is inflated by mandatory kickback - the money ultimately come from Russian government and not from private investors, so the size of the deal has nothing to do with market value. Whatever the price is: $7.5 or $30M, don’t forget it is inflated by mandatory kickback - the money ultimately come from Russian government and not from private investors, so the size of the deal has nothing to do with market value.

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