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	<title>Comments on: PayPerPost Users Freaking Out Over Google PageRank Nuke</title>
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		<title>By: Defining Arrogant &#124; I'm Blogging That!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1977525</link>
		<dc:creator>Defining Arrogant &#124; I'm Blogging That!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when you thought that Michael and TechCrunch couldn’t be any lower than pond scum, he makes a post calling a PayPerPost blogger pathetic for wondering how’s she’s going to feed her family with no PayPerPost opportunities to take and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when you thought that Michael and TechCrunch couldn’t be any lower than pond scum, he makes a post calling a PayPerPost blogger pathetic for wondering how’s she’s going to feed her family with no PayPerPost opportunities to take and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: From PR0 to PR3 Overnight : Blogging For The Money</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1944699</link>
		<dc:creator>From PR0 to PR3 Overnight : Blogging For The Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you know whose TOS that violates? I do. I learned the hard way. Did you? Or did you spend so much time freaking out that you missed the opportunity to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you know whose TOS that violates? I do. I learned the hard way. Did you? Or did you spend so much time freaking out that you missed the opportunity to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PayPerGhost : Point Oh!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1862364</link>
		<dc:creator>PayPerGhost : Point Oh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog monetization strategy, was dealt another blow recently as Google took it upon themselves to reset all PayPerPost bloggers&#8217; page rank to zero. That&#8217;s right, all that credibility you&#8217;ve been trying to build up with your paid [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blog monetization strategy, was dealt another blow recently as Google took it upon themselves to reset all PayPerPost bloggers&#8217; page rank to zero. That&#8217;s right, all that credibility you&#8217;ve been trying to build up with your paid [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ppp often</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1854285</link>
		<dc:creator>ppp often</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know, i ue ppp services...but i write whatever i want.  I don't do positive reviews because i'm being paid to write about something.  I write whatever i want, positive, negative, or what ever.

I don't use payperpost because they require a disclaimer....which will get you google slapped....i use ppp services  that don't require a disclaimer.

what it boils down i freedom of speech...and our right as bloggers to write about what ever it is we want.  If you want to write about a ppp topic or your affiliate program.  

i think the blogger that feel passionately about this should boycott adsense and use competitors like yahoo publisher for the next 4 month.  why should you support google, when google's ready to drop you just like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, i ue ppp services&#8230;but i write whatever i want.  I don&#8217;t do positive reviews because i&#8217;m being paid to write about something.  I write whatever i want, positive, negative, or what ever.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use payperpost because they require a disclaimer&#8230;.which will get you google slapped&#8230;.i use ppp services  that don&#8217;t require a disclaimer.</p>
<p>what it boils down i freedom of speech&#8230;and our right as bloggers to write about what ever it is we want.  If you want to write about a ppp topic or your affiliate program.  </p>
<p>i think the blogger that feel passionately about this should boycott adsense and use competitors like yahoo publisher for the next 4 month.  why should you support google, when google&#8217;s ready to drop you just like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Techbelly</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1847396</link>
		<dc:creator>Techbelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;SEO is astrology 2.0...&lt;/strong&gt;

The almost certain demise of PayPerPost got me thinking again about Search Engine Optimisation (SEO). Their advertisers were promised an SEO benefit, google saw through their buy-search-engine-position-by-proxy scam and zapped their ass. Damn right too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>SEO is astrology 2.0&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The almost certain demise of PayPerPost got me thinking again about Search Engine Optimisation (SEO). Their advertisers were promised an SEO benefit, google saw through their buy-search-engine-position-by-proxy scam and zapped their ass. Damn right too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Nesteby</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1835209</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nesteby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judge ye what?</description>
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		<title>By: David Nesteby</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1835206</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nesteby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is way beyond us pathetic people. The internet, is where The SWORD of God lies. Mike Arlington sold his soul, to judge the very people that feed the net. I refuse to sign up and make money with the google bs,contractual efforts that you place on your agrrement with satan. I will say this. Mike Arlington, you have been JUDGED, you little bitch. And it is a fact, that you probably will be dead within weeks, because people with Karma like yours, usually have some terrible accident. God does not protect the one who is finished, as you are. I bet, you are so fucking evil, that you are being punished daily. I bet, your friends, family, and people in the general circle around you are begginning to feel like shit, and you are currently contemplating suicide for the evil you have done. Call me pathetic, as the marginal compost facility called your fucking brain, is probably ready for an orgasm from the fucking your about to get. I had a vision, that you are going to be hung in the streets, you ankle biter! I can't imagine that you are not looking over your back, wondering if someone is out to get you. I would bank on it. Thank God, i am not one of the people you helped screw, or I would throw a fucking curse at you, you damed little material maggot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is way beyond us pathetic people. The internet, is where The SWORD of God lies. Mike Arlington sold his soul, to judge the very people that feed the net. I refuse to sign up and make money with the google bs,contractual efforts that you place on your agrrement with satan. I will say this. Mike Arlington, you have been JUDGED, you little bitch. And it is a fact, that you probably will be dead within weeks, because people with Karma like yours, usually have some terrible accident. God does not protect the one who is finished, as you are. I bet, you are so fucking evil, that you are being punished daily. I bet, your friends, family, and people in the general circle around you are begginning to feel like shit, and you are currently contemplating suicide for the evil you have done. Call me pathetic, as the marginal compost facility called your fucking brain, is probably ready for an orgasm from the fucking your about to get. I had a vision, that you are going to be hung in the streets, you ankle biter! I can&#8217;t imagine that you are not looking over your back, wondering if someone is out to get you. I would bank on it. Thank God, i am not one of the people you helped screw, or I would throw a fucking curse at you, you damed little material maggot</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Synnott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1831933</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Synnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Advertisers and columnists have been making a living for YEARS reviewing products." - Completely different; being paid to lie about them is SERIOUSLY frowned upon in the real media world. It has certainly happened, once or twice, but any publication which has been found out has lost all credibility.

I'd think a lot less of anyone I knew if they were using this rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Advertisers and columnists have been making a living for YEARS reviewing products.&#8221; - Completely different; being paid to lie about them is SERIOUSLY frowned upon in the real media world. It has certainly happened, once or twice, but any publication which has been found out has lost all credibility.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d think a lot less of anyone I knew if they were using this rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Synnott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1831929</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Synnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Mike,
This statement “effectively removing them from the Internet” is just wrong. Google is still sending thousands and thousands of searches to PPP blogs every day. Once Google removes PPP blogs from their search it will be a story worth writing about.'

I've been assuming that the pagerank drop is more a warning shot than anything else, and that anyone who doesn't heed it and stop using PayPerPost and TLA and other such rubbish will be dropped from the indexes in a couple of months. At any rate, I hope this is what they'll do.

I have little pity for people making money out of distorting the Internet. PPP is a pagerank-selling business and always has been. These ridiculous little blogs which run it surely don't generally actually have many readers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Mike,<br />
This statement “effectively removing them from the Internet” is just wrong. Google is still sending thousands and thousands of searches to PPP blogs every day. Once Google removes PPP blogs from their search it will be a story worth writing about.&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been assuming that the pagerank drop is more a warning shot than anything else, and that anyone who doesn&#8217;t heed it and stop using PayPerPost and TLA and other such rubbish will be dropped from the indexes in a couple of months. At any rate, I hope this is what they&#8217;ll do.</p>
<p>I have little pity for people making money out of distorting the Internet. PPP is a pagerank-selling business and always has been. These ridiculous little blogs which run it surely don&#8217;t generally actually have many readers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cutts за PageRank</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1826872</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Cutts за PageRank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] огромен брой, уебмастъри, оптимизатори, маркетолози и дручи играчи на интернет пазара.   Още по темата : Matt Cutts за [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] огромен брой, уебмастъри, оптимизатори, маркетолози и дручи играчи на интернет пазара.   Още по темата : Matt Cutts за [...]</p>
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		<title>By: azman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1825149</link>
		<dc:creator>azman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope that PPP will die soon.
they are a total liar now.
when my pagerank drop to zero...they choose not to pay me for my previous posts!!!
working with PPP become dangerous and dangerous..
lack of funding???...maybe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope that PPP will die soon.<br />
they are a total liar now.<br />
when my pagerank drop to zero&#8230;they choose not to pay me for my previous posts!!!<br />
working with PPP become dangerous and dangerous..<br />
lack of funding???&#8230;maybe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Affboy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1822629</link>
		<dc:creator>Affboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real rank, ah that's going to make a big difference, isn't it? Very few of the offers out there for PPP are for traffic though that could change. Nah, they want to improve their SEO.

If you really want to earn some cash, here is what you do. Take the PPP money for the posts, after 30 days, make the links nofollow or better yet, go in and change links to fit affiliate offers that make you extra cash. Someone pays you post about business cards? Find a business card affiliate program and stick the link in it.

If you got yourself a mini empire of 20 blogs and put up three paid posts per days no single blog is gonna have more than 3 or 4 paid posts(without nofollow) at any one time. Sure, this is gonna cost you a couple hundred to set up, but guess what, businesses do have expenses. Did you really think you could make your living off of a free blogspot account?

All these people who cry because they are losing opps to earn cash, listen and listen good. You need to treat it like a business. Go get yourself decent hosting, buy yourself a dozen domains and work them like a business. Don't play around with these half measures or try to lilly white it them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real rank, ah that&#8217;s going to make a big difference, isn&#8217;t it? Very few of the offers out there for PPP are for traffic though that could change. Nah, they want to improve their SEO.</p>
<p>If you really want to earn some cash, here is what you do. Take the PPP money for the posts, after 30 days, make the links nofollow or better yet, go in and change links to fit affiliate offers that make you extra cash. Someone pays you post about business cards? Find a business card affiliate program and stick the link in it.</p>
<p>If you got yourself a mini empire of 20 blogs and put up three paid posts per days no single blog is gonna have more than 3 or 4 paid posts(without nofollow) at any one time. Sure, this is gonna cost you a couple hundred to set up, but guess what, businesses do have expenses. Did you really think you could make your living off of a free blogspot account?</p>
<p>All these people who cry because they are losing opps to earn cash, listen and listen good. You need to treat it like a business. Go get yourself decent hosting, buy yourself a dozen domains and work them like a business. Don&#8217;t play around with these half measures or try to lilly white it them up.</p>
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		<title>By: evilwoobie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1812227</link>
		<dc:creator>evilwoobie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the 7th blog I came across that mentioned this site and something about paid-posts bashing, I decided to check this site out. 

I think everyone starts blogging as a hobby until they find out that they can earn from it. That's when the dependence to paid posts starts. 

IMO, this site is getting publicity, albeit bad publicity. But there's no such thing as bad publicity, is there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the 7th blog I came across that mentioned this site and something about paid-posts bashing, I decided to check this site out. </p>
<p>I think everyone starts blogging as a hobby until they find out that they can earn from it. That&#8217;s when the dependence to paid posts starts. </p>
<p>IMO, this site is getting publicity, albeit bad publicity. But there&#8217;s no such thing as bad publicity, is there?</p>
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		<title>By: Jem</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1810963</link>
		<dc:creator>Jem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate PPP, I really do. It turns what were previously interesting blogs into spamerific BS that become a chore to read. It artificially inflates the ranking of both posters and the people they're spamming about. 9 times out of the 10 the reviews and posts are composed by people who haven't even got a clue about the topic they're paid to write about (still can't get over the teenagers writing about insurance). I don't think it's harmless, and I definitely agree with the way Google is taking a stand against it.

The ridiculous excuses only serve to increase my annoyance at the whole service; the pathetic whining about "mommy bloggers" who can't make ends meet or who're desperate for [xyz] and must must must whore themselves out or they'll all DIE or STARVE. This shit doesn't make me think "aw, well ok, you go and PPP all you like then", it makes me think "get off your fucking lazy arses, sell your many domains, turn off your Internet connection and learn how to budget". Families were brought up, kids sent to school, meals served and Christmasses rescued way before the Internet was ever invented, and if my disabled mother can bring up a 6-child, multiple pet family on her own without this blatant 'blogstitution' then any fucker can, and I don't want to hear any damned excuses otherwise.

However, and this is a big however.. techcrunch's sidebar is covered in "sponsers" and adverts, and I don't see ANY difference between that and the PPP crap. This high horse you've built for yourself is made of straw, so just be careful it doesn't come tumbling down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate PPP, I really do. It turns what were previously interesting blogs into spamerific BS that become a chore to read. It artificially inflates the ranking of both posters and the people they&#8217;re spamming about. 9 times out of the 10 the reviews and posts are composed by people who haven&#8217;t even got a clue about the topic they&#8217;re paid to write about (still can&#8217;t get over the teenagers writing about insurance). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s harmless, and I definitely agree with the way Google is taking a stand against it.</p>
<p>The ridiculous excuses only serve to increase my annoyance at the whole service; the pathetic whining about &#8220;mommy bloggers&#8221; who can&#8217;t make ends meet or who&#8217;re desperate for [xyz] and must must must whore themselves out or they&#8217;ll all DIE or STARVE. This shit doesn&#8217;t make me think &#8220;aw, well ok, you go and PPP all you like then&#8221;, it makes me think &#8220;get off your fucking lazy arses, sell your many domains, turn off your Internet connection and learn how to budget&#8221;. Families were brought up, kids sent to school, meals served and Christmasses rescued way before the Internet was ever invented, and if my disabled mother can bring up a 6-child, multiple pet family on her own without this blatant &#8216;blogstitution&#8217; then any fucker can, and I don&#8217;t want to hear any damned excuses otherwise.</p>
<p>However, and this is a big however.. techcrunch&#8217;s sidebar is covered in &#8220;sponsers&#8221; and adverts, and I don&#8217;t see ANY difference between that and the PPP crap. This high horse you&#8217;ve built for yourself is made of straw, so just be careful it doesn&#8217;t come tumbling down.</p>
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		<title>By: More Blog Money</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1807597</link>
		<dc:creator>More Blog Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How high and mighty you are TechCrunch. How are the moms at home and other small bloggers affecting your ricebowl? How are you different from others who blog for money? Oh yeah you get to charge $10,000 per 125x125 banner and that makes you superior.

As for crap content in the blogosphere, Google should direct as much effort if not more in getting rid of spam blogs and blogs that aggregate other people's content in the guise of providing a resource for the latest content. 

And yet these are still around because they display Adsense. At least PPP blogs are written by people, not splogged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How high and mighty you are TechCrunch. How are the moms at home and other small bloggers affecting your ricebowl? How are you different from others who blog for money? Oh yeah you get to charge $10,000 per 125&#215;125 banner and that makes you superior.</p>
<p>As for crap content in the blogosphere, Google should direct as much effort if not more in getting rid of spam blogs and blogs that aggregate other people&#8217;s content in the guise of providing a resource for the latest content. </p>
<p>And yet these are still around because they display Adsense. At least PPP blogs are written by people, not splogged.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1806355</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end Ive been effected by this little set back, my page rank went from 4 to 0 in one night, but in the end PPP are releasing real rank which will hopefully sort this horrible thing out.

I personally have been using PPP to pay my rent, just makes me laugh when people go "now they have to get real jobs like the rest of us" or what ever one of the little people said on here.

Just because someone makes money off of their blog via posts doesnt mean they dont have a job, I have a (not great but well paid) IT job for a local college, I just used PPP to pay my rent (as I said) and this time of the year to buy presents.

If people think thats wrong then, hell stop reading the blogs which do this, if you think we have "sold out" then fine, think what you will. But hell, putting a stupid amount of banners etc on your site kinda makes you a sell out aswell.... no wait... just the "TechCrunch Sponsors", nothing like writing about something is it? no..because you just slap in the code and away you go...

Meh, just a waste of time posting here, lets face it, just another comment for a evil git who thinks its fun to pick at other peoples blogs etc, well, what ever gets you off mate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end Ive been effected by this little set back, my page rank went from 4 to 0 in one night, but in the end PPP are releasing real rank which will hopefully sort this horrible thing out.</p>
<p>I personally have been using PPP to pay my rent, just makes me laugh when people go &#8220;now they have to get real jobs like the rest of us&#8221; or what ever one of the little people said on here.</p>
<p>Just because someone makes money off of their blog via posts doesnt mean they dont have a job, I have a (not great but well paid) IT job for a local college, I just used PPP to pay my rent (as I said) and this time of the year to buy presents.</p>
<p>If people think thats wrong then, hell stop reading the blogs which do this, if you think we have &#8220;sold out&#8221; then fine, think what you will. But hell, putting a stupid amount of banners etc on your site kinda makes you a sell out aswell&#8230;. no wait&#8230; just the &#8220;TechCrunch Sponsors&#8221;, nothing like writing about something is it? no..because you just slap in the code and away you go&#8230;</p>
<p>Meh, just a waste of time posting here, lets face it, just another comment for a evil git who thinks its fun to pick at other peoples blogs etc, well, what ever gets you off mate</p>
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		<title>By: Vienna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vienna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have nothing to say except that your such an arschloch! the biggest one!</description>
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		<title>By: Java Junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1804685</link>
		<dc:creator>Java Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa - I really just don't even understand the entire "Well this is how *I* do it so I am better than everyone else" mentality (no offense.)  I mean essentially companies that have products or services to offer the public have recognized blogging as a viable and expanding means of communication.  Thusly, choosing to pay a blogger to advertise a product or a service is nothing different than an ad in your local newspaper, paying a radio show host to say a sentence or two about their product - which happens ALL of the time - or hiring the local ad agency to produce a commercial for them.  A newspaper makes a bulk of their profits from advertising.  In fact most offer a subscription that is ONLY for the day of the week in which their newspaper will have the most ads, some even offer a subscription for that day with or without the fliers, ads, and coupons.  I find it incredulous that while bloggers ALL struggle to identify themselves as a true form of media and communication, that the standards that those that blog hold other bloggers to worse than a behind-the-scenes reality of most beauty pageants.  Catty doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.  Because you're fortunate enough to be able to be choosy with which opps you take make you a better blogger than those that aren't as choosy?  What about those that don't PPP at all, or even further those that don't have a single solitary advertisement on their blog?  What about those that don't even have a blog roll now?  Exactly where does the line of what is and what isn't acceptable start?  In front of your shoes or behind them?  And who got to decide where the line was in the first place?  There are blogs I read *every*single*day* that have sponsored posts and more often than not I'm glad.  I'm glad there are people out there testing out the latest gadget BEFORE I go and spend very hard earned money on it.  There are blogs I read only once in a great while that DON'T have sponsored posts - and I am grateful for those too.  However I'm not so self idolizing that I feel that everyone out there should be living the same kind of life I do.  That my means of self support are any more important than anyone else's.  Sponsored blogging is treated like the scarlet porch light of the blogging community by those that would rather hoist their noses in the air as far as they possibly can, presumably to get their nose as far away from their own stink as possible.  In reality, a blog is just a blog is just a blog to someone that doesn't blog.  And to be honest, to those people ALL bloggers are the scarlet district.  Why must we  socially segregate those who have the financial means to be a little more discriminating with their advertising cents are coming from away from those that have been choosing to this this as a means to put food in their childrens stomachs and a roof over their head?  Some of whom may not even HAVE a choice, yet here we are, rocks in tow, ready to stone the first scarlet PPP wearing blogger that dares to speak up for themselves.

I'm glad you can be choosy about the opps you take.  And you should feel blessed.  I can guarantee you that the people who HAVE to rely on sponsored posts aren't throwing the stones back at you.  In fact more often than not they probably would choose to be able to blog about nothing more than the color of the fall leaves.  To be able to have the kind of financial freedom it takes to have that.

From experience, I can guarantee you that the bloggers *I* know that write sponsored posts, most of them really have no choice.  And believe me there are more real life situations that leave them no choice than there are real life situations that give them all of their lives handed to them on a silver platter.  And even more somewhere right in the middle.  Whose job is it to judge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa - I really just don&#8217;t even understand the entire &#8220;Well this is how *I* do it so I am better than everyone else&#8221; mentality (no offense.)  I mean essentially companies that have products or services to offer the public have recognized blogging as a viable and expanding means of communication.  Thusly, choosing to pay a blogger to advertise a product or a service is nothing different than an ad in your local newspaper, paying a radio show host to say a sentence or two about their product - which happens ALL of the time - or hiring the local ad agency to produce a commercial for them.  A newspaper makes a bulk of their profits from advertising.  In fact most offer a subscription that is ONLY for the day of the week in which their newspaper will have the most ads, some even offer a subscription for that day with or without the fliers, ads, and coupons.  I find it incredulous that while bloggers ALL struggle to identify themselves as a true form of media and communication, that the standards that those that blog hold other bloggers to worse than a behind-the-scenes reality of most beauty pageants.  Catty doesn&#8217;t even begin to scratch the surface.  Because you&#8217;re fortunate enough to be able to be choosy with which opps you take make you a better blogger than those that aren&#8217;t as choosy?  What about those that don&#8217;t PPP at all, or even further those that don&#8217;t have a single solitary advertisement on their blog?  What about those that don&#8217;t even have a blog roll now?  Exactly where does the line of what is and what isn&#8217;t acceptable start?  In front of your shoes or behind them?  And who got to decide where the line was in the first place?  There are blogs I read *every*single*day* that have sponsored posts and more often than not I&#8217;m glad.  I&#8217;m glad there are people out there testing out the latest gadget BEFORE I go and spend very hard earned money on it.  There are blogs I read only once in a great while that DON&#8217;T have sponsored posts - and I am grateful for those too.  However I&#8217;m not so self idolizing that I feel that everyone out there should be living the same kind of life I do.  That my means of self support are any more important than anyone else&#8217;s.  Sponsored blogging is treated like the scarlet porch light of the blogging community by those that would rather hoist their noses in the air as far as they possibly can, presumably to get their nose as far away from their own stink as possible.  In reality, a blog is just a blog is just a blog to someone that doesn&#8217;t blog.  And to be honest, to those people ALL bloggers are the scarlet district.  Why must we  socially segregate those who have the financial means to be a little more discriminating with their advertising cents are coming from away from those that have been choosing to this this as a means to put food in their childrens stomachs and a roof over their head?  Some of whom may not even HAVE a choice, yet here we are, rocks in tow, ready to stone the first scarlet PPP wearing blogger that dares to speak up for themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you can be choosy about the opps you take.  And you should feel blessed.  I can guarantee you that the people who HAVE to rely on sponsored posts aren&#8217;t throwing the stones back at you.  In fact more often than not they probably would choose to be able to blog about nothing more than the color of the fall leaves.  To be able to have the kind of financial freedom it takes to have that.</p>
<p>From experience, I can guarantee you that the bloggers *I* know that write sponsored posts, most of them really have no choice.  And believe me there are more real life situations that leave them no choice than there are real life situations that give them all of their lives handed to them on a silver platter.  And even more somewhere right in the middle.  Whose job is it to judge?</p>
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		<title>By: Liza S.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1804260</link>
		<dc:creator>Liza S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with PPP, but I must say I don't mind this post at all. Google has every right to punish blogs with paid links. And yeah, blogging can be a real money-making job, but 'reviewing' any site a postie can find for a bit of cash is NOT it. If they want to make blogging their career, they'll have to do a bit less parroting of how 'good' a product is to get cash out of it and do a bit more WORK. 

If I see a good PPP opp, I'll take it. But I'm not counting on it to become a real source of income.

Good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with PPP, but I must say I don&#8217;t mind this post at all. Google has every right to punish blogs with paid links. And yeah, blogging can be a real money-making job, but &#8216;reviewing&#8217; any site a postie can find for a bit of cash is NOT it. If they want to make blogging their career, they&#8217;ll have to do a bit less parroting of how &#8216;good&#8217; a product is to get cash out of it and do a bit more WORK. </p>
<p>If I see a good PPP opp, I&#8217;ll take it. But I&#8217;m not counting on it to become a real source of income.</p>
<p>Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: SearchCap: The Day In Search, November 30, 2007 &#124; Seek and you shell find !!!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1804234</link>
		<dc:creator>SearchCap: The Day In Search, November 30, 2007 &#124; Seek and you shell find !!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Coffee and Chocolate addict</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1803951</link>
		<dc:creator>Coffee and Chocolate addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so selfish to sit here and put down people who just  make a living off of PPP. I happen to not do PPP myself. However I am dear freinds with someone who happens to do PPP. I love reading this blog even with the PPP on it. I can always tell that its paid but this person does it so well that I have gotten a few products after reading the posts!!!! I think you need to get over yourself real fast! And I hope they come after you next! I even suffered from the rank loss and I don't even do PPP!!!!! And I can tell your page rank is not there either!!! 
I also agree with what Java Junkie said!!! 
Have fun re building your page rank!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so selfish to sit here and put down people who just  make a living off of PPP. I happen to not do PPP myself. However I am dear freinds with someone who happens to do PPP. I love reading this blog even with the PPP on it. I can always tell that its paid but this person does it so well that I have gotten a few products after reading the posts!!!! I think you need to get over yourself real fast! And I hope they come after you next! I even suffered from the rank loss and I don&#8217;t even do PPP!!!!! And I can tell your page rank is not there either!!!<br />
I also agree with what Java Junkie said!!!<br />
Have fun re building your page rank!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Java Junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1803815</link>
		<dc:creator>Java Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow..  A WHOLE lot of stones cast from glass houses here.  Personally I feel it's "pathetic" to call someone whom you've never met "pathetic" because of how she chooses to earn a living..  It's not a "real job"?  You know, the first journalists weren't paid - was it a real job for the ones that did?  Should they be upset when, without warning or reason, their means of providing for their family is nearly destroyed completely?  Would you call any other means of advertisement "pathetic" if those doing the work were suddenly shafted by the companies they worked for and they were upset by it?  Wow, narcis much?  Self-righteous often do we?  It's incredibly short sighted, narrow minded and ridiculously arrogant to call someone pathetic for worrying about their means of providing food, shelter and clothing for their family being suddenly taken from them.  ESPECIALLY when you know NOTHING about their situation.  Advertisers and columnists have been making a living for YEARS reviewing products.  How incredibly selfish, self-aggrandizing and childlike to behave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow..  A WHOLE lot of stones cast from glass houses here.  Personally I feel it&#8217;s &#8220;pathetic&#8221; to call someone whom you&#8217;ve never met &#8220;pathetic&#8221; because of how she chooses to earn a living..  It&#8217;s not a &#8220;real job&#8221;?  You know, the first journalists weren&#8217;t paid - was it a real job for the ones that did?  Should they be upset when, without warning or reason, their means of providing for their family is nearly destroyed completely?  Would you call any other means of advertisement &#8220;pathetic&#8221; if those doing the work were suddenly shafted by the companies they worked for and they were upset by it?  Wow, narcis much?  Self-righteous often do we?  It&#8217;s incredibly short sighted, narrow minded and ridiculously arrogant to call someone pathetic for worrying about their means of providing food, shelter and clothing for their family being suddenly taken from them.  ESPECIALLY when you know NOTHING about their situation.  Advertisers and columnists have been making a living for YEARS reviewing products.  How incredibly selfish, self-aggrandizing and childlike to behave.</p>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1803803</link>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cyberpunk:

You're right.  Some abused the network.  But Google didn't punish the abusers; they punished everyone, even the ones who didn't.  Out of over 1000 posts on my blog, 40 were paid.  Those 40 were posted between October, 2006 and June, 2007.  Every post was disclosed at the post level, and every post I wrote had to fit specific criteria before I would write about them, including the requirement that I had tried the product/service/site myself and could write honestly without any requirements for a particular tone.

Most of what I made I gave away to friends in need, charities, or my freshman college kid.  

Google didn't drop me to zero, but they did drop me, and I'm angry about the way they treated people who approached paid blogging in a similar fashion to me and rely on that income in some way.  They did this while doing nothing to fix the AdSense sploggers and scrapers out there who rely on MY content to drive traffic into THEIR site which is nothing more than a wastebasket for Adsense traffic to land in.

For Michael Arrington to sit here and pound those folks more is just beyond comprehension.  At best, it's mean-spirited and ugly.  At worst, it's self-serving, given his own income stream from AdSense.

I hope he's nicer to stray dogs and orphans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cyberpunk:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  Some abused the network.  But Google didn&#8217;t punish the abusers; they punished everyone, even the ones who didn&#8217;t.  Out of over 1000 posts on my blog, 40 were paid.  Those 40 were posted between October, 2006 and June, 2007.  Every post was disclosed at the post level, and every post I wrote had to fit specific criteria before I would write about them, including the requirement that I had tried the product/service/site myself and could write honestly without any requirements for a particular tone.</p>
<p>Most of what I made I gave away to friends in need, charities, or my freshman college kid.  </p>
<p>Google didn&#8217;t drop me to zero, but they did drop me, and I&#8217;m angry about the way they treated people who approached paid blogging in a similar fashion to me and rely on that income in some way.  They did this while doing nothing to fix the AdSense sploggers and scrapers out there who rely on MY content to drive traffic into THEIR site which is nothing more than a wastebasket for Adsense traffic to land in.</p>
<p>For Michael Arrington to sit here and pound those folks more is just beyond comprehension.  At best, it&#8217;s mean-spirited and ugly.  At worst, it&#8217;s self-serving, given his own income stream from AdSense.</p>
<p>I hope he&#8217;s nicer to stray dogs and orphans.</p>
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		<title>By: cyberpunk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/29/payperpost-users-freaking-out-over-google-pagerank-nuke/#comment-1803678</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberpunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well I don't mind reading paid posts every now and then, as long as the blogger chooses products/services related to his blog and exerts effort to write an intelligent post...heck, even I post sponsored posts sometimes...

a little extra cash from paid blogging is nice...but if your source of livelihood involves posting a series of paid posts even about stuffs that don't interest you, just for the money and without regard to the readers...then yes, that is pathetic...

guys, stop it with your misplaced sympathies...a lot of PPP bloggers abused the network...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I don&#8217;t mind reading paid posts every now and then, as long as the blogger chooses products/services related to his blog and exerts effort to write an intelligent post&#8230;heck, even I post sponsored posts sometimes&#8230;</p>
<p>a little extra cash from paid blogging is nice&#8230;but if your source of livelihood involves posting a series of paid posts even about stuffs that don&#8217;t interest you, just for the money and without regard to the readers&#8230;then yes, that is pathetic&#8230;</p>
<p>guys, stop it with your misplaced sympathies&#8230;a lot of PPP bloggers abused the network&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike..you are a b@$t@rD</description>
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