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Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:50:15 +0000

[...] Verizon could have sat the auction out, deciding not to bid and instead watch Google squirm as it realized it was the only one in the game. There is a lot of skepticism about how serious Google really is in its desire to actually win the auctions as opposed to influence their outcome and the rules of the game. When it became apparent that there was only one other bidder in the early rounds of the auction, Verizon could have calculated that Google would bid just shy of the $4.6 billion if it realized it was on its own. If that had happened, the FCC would have almost certainly re-auctioned the C-block at a later date without any of those pesky open-device and open-application rules that Verizon really doesn’t like. [...]

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Verizon Says It Will Support Google’s Android teasered @ Feed UP !! — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:23:23 +0000

[...] CEO Lowell McAdam tells BusinessWeek, “We’re planning on using Android.” Why not? Talk is cheap when you are trying to come across as all open on the eve of the biggest wireless spectrum auction [...]

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Chris — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:26:20 +0000

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By: Aaron Brazell

Aaron Brazell — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:55:11 +0000

Notably, I’d like a Verizon Wireless customer accessible GPS app. Since VZW disables it on their Blackberrys.

By: AnonTroll

AnonTroll — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:15:13 +0000

Like I said before, this is to make Verizon Wireless seems more open and gives them an edge in bidding for the 700MHz spectrum.

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3G iPhone On Track For Next Year — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:38:34 +0000

[...] the same talk, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson also pooh-poohed Verizon’s supposed plans to open up its network. According to Bloomberg: Stephenson called the Verizon Wireless plan [...]

By: Fabian Schonholz

Fabian Schonholz — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:14:56 +0000

What a bummer … when one of my employees told me about Verizon opening up I got excited. And then … the “real” info comes through different channels and you get what really is going on … and … again .. what a bummer.

Imagine an open network … you just need the SIM card and off you go. The potential there is enormous. And on an open network, the carrier stands to make A LOT of $$$$ just from subscription and fees alone. Imagine what other deals and slices can be created to supplement the basic revenue.

By: Microsoft News Tracker

Microsoft News Tracker — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:21:08 +0000

Microsoft supports Verizon’s "Any Apps, Any Device" initiative…

Today, Verizon Wireless opened up its cell phone network with the announcement of an “Any Apps, Any Device” initiative and Microsoft voiced its support via Senior Vice President of the Mobile Communications Business Pieter Knook:
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By: Some cold water on Verizon’s ‘Any Apps, Any Device’ Option announcement? « Michigan Telephone, VoIP and Broadband blog

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:06:24 +0000

[...] Erick Schonfeld, in an article on the TechCrunch web site, made this observation: Verizon’s newfound openness when it comes to its wireless network is not [...]

By: pji

pji — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:06:05 +0000

Who is going to import a low end crap Korean phone or use a give away phone from Alltel or Sprint? Those are the non-brew phones that will be left out in the cold.

The people that will benefit from an open network are those looking for higher end smartphones. For example, I would have liked the HTC Mogul 6 months ago when it landed at Sprint. Nothing brew on a WinMo phone.

By: theharmonyguy

theharmonyguy — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:12:28 +0000

Running apps on other devices gets into other issues… for instance, most of Verizon’s current models are BREW handsets, while many popular apps (such as Opera Mini) run on Java (Opera is available for other platforms, but not yet for BREW).

Of course, even with current handsets, there are ways to hack them if you’re the kind of person who wants other apps.

Anyway, I’m not sure how Verizon could really pull off the level of “open” you’re talking about. Take this sentence: “Nobody is going to go through the trouble of creating apps just for the handful of people who want a CDMA phone that Verizon does not already sell.” If someone creates a Java app, those running a Java CDMA phone will have access, and most of the people buying Verizon’s phones won’t.

By: cmdrNacho

cmdrNacho — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:00:13 +0000

Please Please google, buy sprint , then buy the 700 mhz spectrum.. save the US from from technology obscurity, where we are already years behind asian and european counties. Please save us google.

By: Sina

Sina — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:59:08 +0000

I don’t understand. How can Verizon prevent apps from being run? If the devices have access to Verizon EVDO, and thus the Internet, how can Verizon prevent users from using whatever app they like?

By: SmoothSpan Blog

SmoothSpan Blog — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:43:16 +0000

Verizon Drops the Open Bomb: Maybe The Old School Is Starting To Get It…

My hat is off to whomever at Verizon decided to open up their network for “any app any device.” To date, the industry has had a strangehold on which handsets each carrier offers and which apps are on the handsets. Tampering with the sta…

By: Trevor Speirs

Trevor Speirs — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:21:13 +0000

I don’t know how you can call the fact that current Verizon phones will not be able to run ‘open’ apps a two tiered system?? Two tiered implies that one tier will get special treatment; this is not the case. Open phones get to use the network just like the Verizon phones.

Bottom line is that Verizon has every right to choose what software runs on a ‘Verizon’ phone. Just like any new phones will have a right to set up their own apps. Consumers will migrate to the phones with the best value proposition. Verizon can keep their phones ‘closed’ at their own risk.

By: Josh Adams

Josh Adams — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:12:05 +0000

I don’t read that that way at all. I understood the opening to be strictly about the network…that is, the towers spread out around the nation. Imagine non-phone devices using this data network. Think Kindle-competition.

That’s how this announcement always sounded to me, and is in my opinion the best idea anyway. Geez.

By: exapted

exapted — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:09:45 +0000

Great article. I agree that Verizon’s network won’t really be open. There will be far fewer handsets for new mobile web apps to get into than expected. Most of those 64 million (unfortunate) subscribers will still be off limits to mobile application developers. That is a pity.

“The appeal of developing an open app for Verizon would be to gain access to those 64 million subscribers.”

The above statement seems to suggest that if I buy an Android phone and use it on Verizon’s network, I won’t have so many good apps to choose from, because developers won’t want to develop “Verizon apps”. True that some location based services are specific to some mobile networks, but in general mobile applications are developed for operating systems or other software platforms such as J2ME or BREW. Twitter/Dodgeball/Mobile MSN Messenger/Mobile Firefox/etc. have little to nothing to do with any specific mobile network.

By: Trevor

Trevor — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:52:23 +0000

I haven’t been impressed with the TechCrunch reporting lately — namely this story and the Google court issue also reported recently. This seems like awfully fickle reporting (i.e. little fact checking) before running to press. I think TechCrunch can do better.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:45:30 +0000

Interesting. It’s also interesting that following on the heels of this announcement, Canada recently opened up their own wireless industry to ensure greater competition as well as fair opportunities for emerging providers to compete against the huge existing providers.

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/.....ction.html

By: fred

fred — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:36:05 +0000

It seems like a good start to me. Let the other “open networks” take on the load to drive out what apps are in demand and warrant support in their network. Verizon’s consumers can always move to open devices as they see fit. Once an open app gains sufficient traction and has proven to be stable, Verizon can elect to extend and support these now proven apps in their network.

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Verizon?s ?Open? Network Will Really Be Two-Tiered »TechAddress — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:30:09 +0000

[...] Source:Techcrunch Verizon’s newfound openness when it comes to its wireless network is not all that open after all. As I reported yesterday, Verizon Wireless announced that it would allow “any device” and “any app” to operate on its existing network. But that is not exactly so. By “any device” Verizon means you can […] Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]