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	<title>Comments on: Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line</title>
	<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/</link>
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		<title>By: Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line &#124; Music News Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-2225131</link>
		<dc:creator>Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line &#124; Music News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-2225131</guid>
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		<title>By: Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line-music</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-2017499</link>
		<dc:creator>Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line-music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-2017499</guid>
		<description>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptMusic search engines are just one of the many ways to get free music on the Internet (BitTorrent and MP3Sparks, formerly AllofMP3, are other popular ways). But for some users they are a near perfect way to listen to music on demand, &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptMusic search engines are just one of the many ways to get free music on the Internet (BitTorrent and MP3Sparks, formerly AllofMP3, are other popular ways). But for some users they are a near perfect way to listen to music on demand, &#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Free (legal) P2P Music Downloads? Told You So.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1945833</link>
		<dc:creator>Free (legal) P2P Music Downloads? Told You So.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1945833</guid>
		<description>[...] most people, BitTorrent and the music search engines are all they need for their illegal-but-highly-convenient music needs. Any additional hurdles means [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] most people, BitTorrent and the music search engines are all they need for their illegal-but-highly-convenient music needs. Any additional hurdles means [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A New Way of Piracy? - Page 2 - Whooked</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1929381</link>
		<dc:creator>A New Way of Piracy? - Page 2 - Whooked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1929381</guid>
		<description>[...] Techcrunch recently posted about how this was actually pretty much legal. You can read the post here. But onto the other music search engine sites. Well, you can pretty much say that these sites put [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Techcrunch recently posted about how this was actually pretty much legal. You can read the post here. But onto the other music search engine sites. Well, you can pretty much say that these sites put [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Business News Research &#187; Fashion Social Network Chictini Harmonizes with SeeqPod</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1854226</link>
		<dc:creator>Business News Research &#187; Fashion Social Network Chictini Harmonizes with SeeqPod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1854226</guid>
		<description>[...] into user profiles. SeeqPod is an MP3 search engine, reviewed along with a couple others here, that allows you to stream (mostly copyrighted) music found around the web by its [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] into user profiles. SeeqPod is an MP3 search engine, reviewed along with a couple others here, that allows you to stream (mostly copyrighted) music found around the web by its [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Potts - One Chance - Info, Reviews, &#38; Free Links To Listen, Download, and Purchase &#124; The Digital Lounge &#124; FIND YOUR DIGITAL COOL</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1831996</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Potts - One Chance - Info, Reviews, &#38; Free Links To Listen, Download, and Purchase &#124; The Digital Lounge &#124; FIND YOUR DIGITAL COOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1831996</guid>
		<description>[...] SkreemR (Search engine for free publicly available audio files.*) *Results from SkreemR are not specific to the album reviewed in this post. Downloading from SkreemR may constitute copyright infringement. Proceed at your own risk. To Learn more, click here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] SkreemR (Search engine for free publicly available audio files.*) *Results from SkreemR are not specific to the album reviewed in this post. Downloading from SkreemR may constitute copyright infringement. Proceed at your own risk. To Learn more, click here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rvdh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1829661</link>
		<dc:creator>Rvdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1829661</guid>
		<description>I use this great engine: http://xchannelmusicmachine.blogspot.com/ it uses 17 mp3 search engines. SkreemR included!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use this great engine: <a href="http://xchannelmusicmachine.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://xchannelmusicmachine.blogspot.com/</a> it uses 17 mp3 search engines. SkreemR included!</p>
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		<title>By: Krellan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1827685</link>
		<dc:creator>Krellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1827685</guid>
		<description>Isn't this just the same as Scour?  Anyone remember that old program/website?

http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=scour

It was a search engine for open Windows shared folders (SMB).

Very popular back in the days when residential connections did not often have firewalls or NAT acting as a filter.

It was especially popular for college dorms, which often had true wide-open IP addresses.

Wasn't Scour legally shut down, even though they had nothing to do with the actual files?  They merely provided a service by allowing them to be searched and indexed, and never did host the actual content.  I wonder how these new services will avoid becoming another Scour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this just the same as Scour?  Anyone remember that old program/website?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=scour" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=scour</a></p>
<p>It was a search engine for open Windows shared folders (SMB).</p>
<p>Very popular back in the days when residential connections did not often have firewalls or NAT acting as a filter.</p>
<p>It was especially popular for college dorms, which often had true wide-open IP addresses.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t Scour legally shut down, even though they had nothing to do with the actual files?  They merely provided a service by allowing them to be searched and indexed, and never did host the actual content.  I wonder how these new services will avoid becoming another Scour.</p>
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		<title>By: Gubatron.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Episodio 72 - Internet TV, Google, Open Mobile, Green y m&#225;s</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1813281</link>
		<dc:creator>Gubatron.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Episodio 72 - Internet TV, Google, Open Mobile, Green y m&#225;s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1813281</guid>
		<description>[...] Music Search Engines heat up competition [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Music Search Engines heat up competition [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: zhg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1806433</link>
		<dc:creator>zhg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1806433</guid>
		<description>Actually contributory infringement is covered by statute ... see article below.

http://www.invention-protection.com/ip/publications/docs/Contributory_Patent_Infringement.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually contributory infringement is covered by statute &#8230; see article below.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.invention-protection.com/ip/publications/docs/Contributory_Patent_Infringement.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.invention-protectio.....ement.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1801011</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1801011</guid>
		<description>This DRM stuff is killing me!!!

I do not live in the US anymore so I could care less about the breaking US law and removing DRM for personal use.

DRM no DRM…. I just want to be able to play my media on any platform that I choose. DRM is like going into your local stereo shop and having to purchase a DVD player for each movie studio.

So now I found a great decission - MelodyCan converter (http://www.convert-any-media.com/index.php) which helps me to resolve drm-protection problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This DRM stuff is killing me!!!</p>
<p>I do not live in the US anymore so I could care less about the breaking US law and removing DRM for personal use.</p>
<p>DRM no DRM…. I just want to be able to play my media on any platform that I choose. DRM is like going into your local stereo shop and having to purchase a DVD player for each movie studio.</p>
<p>So now I found a great decission - MelodyCan converter (http://www.convert-any-media.com/index.php) which helps me to resolve drm-protection problem.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1799133</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1799133</guid>
		<description>Another shiny example of an MP3 search engine, working perfectly is www.searchmp3tracks.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another shiny example of an MP3 search engine, working perfectly is <a href="http://www.searchmp3tracks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchmp3tracks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line - Allofmp3 Community Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798929</link>
		<dc:creator>Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line - Allofmp3 Community Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798929</guid>
		<description>[...] near perfect way to listen to music on demand, and/or round out their music collection.    Read on: Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line        Customer Of: Mp3Fiesta, MP3sale, Legalsounds, MusicMP3 &#38; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] near perfect way to listen to music on demand, and/or round out their music collection.    Read on: Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line        Customer Of: Mp3Fiesta, MP3sale, Legalsounds, MusicMP3 &amp; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lua</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798593</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798593</guid>
		<description>Might also want to look at Soundflavor (www.soundflavor.com)

They have an MP3 search engine and playlisting. Their widgets are pretty slick (coverflow-style).

There's a twist with Soundflavor. They have a good recommendation engine that suggests songs that sound like the music you search for. Kind of a Pandora repackaged as music search.

Worth checking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might also want to look at Soundflavor (www.soundflavor.com)</p>
<p>They have an MP3 search engine and playlisting. Their widgets are pretty slick (coverflow-style).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a twist with Soundflavor. They have a good recommendation engine that suggests songs that sound like the music you search for. Kind of a Pandora repackaged as music search.</p>
<p>Worth checking out.</p>
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		<title>By: DDB</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798553</link>
		<dc:creator>DDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798553</guid>
		<description>and boom it's down...crashed firefox twice - on a great song at the end...someone is doing something - lots of traffic ok, digg effect it's back up...

bottom line - google has illegal mp3's in their engine, videos, and tons of other illegal content and are they in jail? NO. They did it the right way, just like these sites are doing. Check googles stock now vs 5yrs ago and get a clue, please, everyone. If you post it on the net for free, it is free - hell if you post it for $17 you can still get it free and what is preventing google from indexing that particular link? If you index an outside source how are you liable for distributing it? You are not - case in point - google. The internet is the citizens of the world's ammunition to LEARN AND REAP it's benefits.

Reminds me of Metallicas stance on Napster - how come they didn't go after Gnutella? Ahh the speculations...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and boom it&#8217;s down&#8230;crashed firefox twice - on a great song at the end&#8230;someone is doing something - lots of traffic ok, digg effect it&#8217;s back up&#8230;</p>
<p>bottom line - google has illegal mp3&#8217;s in their engine, videos, and tons of other illegal content and are they in jail? NO. They did it the right way, just like these sites are doing. Check googles stock now vs 5yrs ago and get a clue, please, everyone. If you post it on the net for free, it is free - hell if you post it for $17 you can still get it free and what is preventing google from indexing that particular link? If you index an outside source how are you liable for distributing it? You are not - case in point - google. The internet is the citizens of the world&#8217;s ammunition to LEARN AND REAP it&#8217;s benefits.</p>
<p>Reminds me of Metallicas stance on Napster - how come they didn&#8217;t go after Gnutella? Ahh the speculations&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: music &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798191</link>
		<dc:creator>music &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Music Search Engines Tread Fine Legal Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798191</guid>
		<description>[...] Read the rest of this great post here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Read the rest of this great post here [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Fairuser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798145</link>
		<dc:creator>Fairuser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798145</guid>
		<description>The best plan is for musicians to move away from getting screwed and only getting cents per song!!! Radiohead has proved that there is far more reward monetarily in moving merchandise rather than individual tracks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best plan is for musicians to move away from getting screwed and only getting cents per song!!! Radiohead has proved that there is far more reward monetarily in moving merchandise rather than individual tracks!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798111</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1798111</guid>
		<description>Darren,

I actually am contributing where I can. And yes, I feel strongly enough about this issue that I didn't want to muddy it with self-promotion (as most people do here because of access to this vast audience). If you're really interested in my efforts, you can see the legit sites that I've created to promote indie artists at freemusicgroup.com, and you can read my further thoughts about the logical fallacies to which I object so strongly here: chuckbrown.com/music-file-sharing/index.html (I'm leaving the links unclickable, because this isn't about me)

I don't have a better plan than what currently exists (although I have make specific proposals about dropping DRM and increasing MP3 quality levels in exchange for a small increase in price). But the answer to a bad system is not STEALING. 

Pick up signs and go protest. Stop buying music through established channels in hopes that the industry will shrivel up and die. I support those efforts wholeheartedly. But that's not what's going on when someone like Michael pimps for the idea of "free music". That just appeals to an already sucking ethical posture that's so pervasive in this society that just tells people to "steal whatever you can". What the hell? There's no logic in that, and I don't think anyone who makes that argument can have thought it through for real. I have thought it through, and I challenge others making downright stupid statements to do the same...and consider where this kind of thing is leading us as a society...especially our youth.

I don't have the power to solve this problem myself. Michael doesn't either. But just stoking these piracy fires is not a legitimate way to address a problem. Michael has a much better handle on the nature of business than I'll ever have. What I'm saying is that he has access to tons of creative people and he's better connected than most of us will ever be. Why not use that power for good in this particular case? Why not build a new platform so appealing in its reach that it would tempt major-label artists to just walk away from their established deals, and top indie artists to align with it? Why not find a way to let all the involved parties profit...AND to use the opportunity to evangelize for a better option, instead of encouraging theft and telling people that the walls are falling and we'll soon have free music?

As far as your last comment: "Please don’t blame TechCrunch for giving us information on sites that aren’t doing anything illegal."...this is not a standalone post. I am also referring back to past posts about free music on TC. And, yes...I am blaming TC for leading horses to water where there is only one real option: "Look, there it is. Go ahead and drink. Everyone else does. You might as well. Besides...music will all be free soon anyway!" Yes, I think that's wrong and deserves to be challenged on ethical grounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren,</p>
<p>I actually am contributing where I can. And yes, I feel strongly enough about this issue that I didn&#8217;t want to muddy it with self-promotion (as most people do here because of access to this vast audience). If you&#8217;re really interested in my efforts, you can see the legit sites that I&#8217;ve created to promote indie artists at freemusicgroup.com, and you can read my further thoughts about the logical fallacies to which I object so strongly here: chuckbrown.com/music-file-sharing/index.html (I&#8217;m leaving the links unclickable, because this isn&#8217;t about me)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a better plan than what currently exists (although I have make specific proposals about dropping DRM and increasing MP3 quality levels in exchange for a small increase in price). But the answer to a bad system is not STEALING. </p>
<p>Pick up signs and go protest. Stop buying music through established channels in hopes that the industry will shrivel up and die. I support those efforts wholeheartedly. But that&#8217;s not what&#8217;s going on when someone like Michael pimps for the idea of &#8220;free music&#8221;. That just appeals to an already sucking ethical posture that&#8217;s so pervasive in this society that just tells people to &#8220;steal whatever you can&#8221;. What the hell? There&#8217;s no logic in that, and I don&#8217;t think anyone who makes that argument can have thought it through for real. I have thought it through, and I challenge others making downright stupid statements to do the same&#8230;and consider where this kind of thing is leading us as a society&#8230;especially our youth.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the power to solve this problem myself. Michael doesn&#8217;t either. But just stoking these piracy fires is not a legitimate way to address a problem. Michael has a much better handle on the nature of business than I&#8217;ll ever have. What I&#8217;m saying is that he has access to tons of creative people and he&#8217;s better connected than most of us will ever be. Why not use that power for good in this particular case? Why not build a new platform so appealing in its reach that it would tempt major-label artists to just walk away from their established deals, and top indie artists to align with it? Why not find a way to let all the involved parties profit&#8230;AND to use the opportunity to evangelize for a better option, instead of encouraging theft and telling people that the walls are falling and we&#8217;ll soon have free music?</p>
<p>As far as your last comment: &#8220;Please don’t blame TechCrunch for giving us information on sites that aren’t doing anything illegal.&#8221;&#8230;this is not a standalone post. I am also referring back to past posts about free music on TC. And, yes&#8230;I am blaming TC for leading horses to water where there is only one real option: &#8220;Look, there it is. Go ahead and drink. Everyone else does. You might as well. Besides&#8230;music will all be free soon anyway!&#8221; Yes, I think that&#8217;s wrong and deserves to be challenged on ethical grounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannes</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797985</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797985</guid>
		<description>Addon: or check about:cache in Firefox and search for the link above within the disk cache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addon: or check about:cache in Firefox and search for the link above within the disk cache.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797984</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797984</guid>
		<description>These sites are on the illegal side of that thread!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These sites are on the illegal side of that thread!</p>
<p><a href="http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hannes</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797980</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797980</guid>
		<description>Well, you didn't tell the truth. Seeqpod *does* hosting of mp3 files (even if they write on their own page, that they don't). Just connect a proxy server and watch. How else could it play songs, which original links aren't existing anymore? :-)

Every song (mp3) on Seeqpod refers to http://4.71.164.199/ -- just check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you didn&#8217;t tell the truth. Seeqpod *does* hosting of mp3 files (even if they write on their own page, that they don&#8217;t). Just connect a proxy server and watch. How else could it play songs, which original links aren&#8217;t existing anymore? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Every song (mp3) on Seeqpod refers to <a href="http://4.71.164.199/" rel="nofollow">http://4.71.164.199/</a> &#8212; just check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: UpTake</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797958</link>
		<dc:creator>UpTake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797958</guid>
		<description>Does anyone realize AOL is doing the same thing as the sites above with Winamp?

http://www.last100.com/2007/09/17/winamp-goes-where-itunes-doesnt-dare/

This is important to realize, the shape of music distribution has changed and been handed over to the search engines. It's now up to them to come up with a model that benefits artists. This could happen as Google was able to come up with a revenue model, AdSense, that has benefited content publishers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone realize AOL is doing the same thing as the sites above with Winamp?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.last100.com/2007/09/17/winamp-goes-where-itunes-doesnt-dare/" rel="nofollow">http://www.last100.com/2007/09.....esnt-dare/</a></p>
<p>This is important to realize, the shape of music distribution has changed and been handed over to the search engines. It&#8217;s now up to them to come up with a model that benefits artists. This could happen as Google was able to come up with a revenue model, AdSense, that has benefited content publishers.</p>
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		<title>By: garg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797874</link>
		<dc:creator>garg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797874</guid>
		<description>uh oh. By this logic, Techcrunch is treading a fine legal line as well by linking to Seeqpod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh oh. By this logic, Techcrunch is treading a fine legal line as well by linking to Seeqpod.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797626</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797626</guid>
		<description>How do these flash players access mp3 files on other servers?  I thought Flash didn't allow that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do these flash players access mp3 files on other servers?  I thought Flash didn&#8217;t allow that.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797552</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/music-search-engines-tread-fine-legal-line/#comment-1797552</guid>
		<description>Guys, I can't believe for a supposedly technical audience that no one has brought up the point you can do this exact same thing with Google itself. Just google for "google mp3 search" and you will find plenty of options. http://www.googlemp3.com seems to find plenty of mp3s. Or if you prefer to use Google directly, you can query something like this:

-inurl:(htm&#124;html&#124;php) intitle:"index of" +"last modified" +"parent directory" +description +size +(wma&#124;mp3) "Nirvana"

Sure, it's more technical/advanced than a normal Google search, but is that a defense against copyright infringement? No, search engines are simply not liable for infringement simply for linking to something. Even when Google removes sites from their index due to a DMCA notice, they link to the DMCA request which contains, you guessed it, the original links.

If seeqpod is liable, then so is Google/Yahoo/Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, I can&#8217;t believe for a supposedly technical audience that no one has brought up the point you can do this exact same thing with Google itself. Just google for &#8220;google mp3 search&#8221; and you will find plenty of options. <a href="http://www.googlemp3.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.googlemp3.com</a> seems to find plenty of mp3s. Or if you prefer to use Google directly, you can query something like this:</p>
<p>-inurl:(htm|html|php) intitle:&#8221;index of&#8221; +&#8221;last modified&#8221; +&#8221;parent directory&#8221; +description +size +(wma|mp3) &#8220;Nirvana&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s more technical/advanced than a normal Google search, but is that a defense against copyright infringement? No, search engines are simply not liable for infringement simply for linking to something. Even when Google removes sites from their index due to a DMCA notice, they link to the DMCA request which contains, you guessed it, the original links.</p>
<p>If seeqpod is liable, then so is Google/Yahoo/Microsoft.</p>
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