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		<title>By: Fausto</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2923529</link>
		<dc:creator>Fausto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is some way that i can record the phone call conversation from the ipod 
and how this work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is some way that i can record the phone call conversation from the ipod<br />
and how this work</p>
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		<title>By: Apple SpyPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1775384</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple SpyPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apple iPhone има скрита функция, която започва да безпокои немалко потребители : устройството буквално следи живота на собственика си, съобщава techcrunch.com. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apple iPhone има скрита функция, която започва да безпокои немалко потребители : устройството буквално следи живота на собственика си, съобщава techcrunch.com. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1766023</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 05:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, common sense beat me to the &quot;Erick is somewhat dense&quot; observation, but I came here to make that point so I&#039;ll chime in as well. There wasn&#039;t any code authoring in that video. You really need to raise the level of your game a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, common sense beat me to the &#8220;Erick is somewhat dense&#8221; observation, but I came here to make that point so I&#8217;ll chime in as well. There wasn&#8217;t any code authoring in that video. You really need to raise the level of your game a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1764451</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another bit of drivel from Erik!

Is there no editorial sense anymore in this blog. 
First of all, the guy wasn&#039;t writing &#039;code&#039;.
Second, this exploit has been known since close to the iPhone being launched.
Third, why should anyone care. What are the SPECIFIC items to be aware of, and also how can I fix it.

Erik, a fine piece of grade A drivel I could find on any recent computer science graduates personal blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another bit of drivel from Erik!</p>
<p>Is there no editorial sense anymore in this blog.<br />
First of all, the guy wasn&#8217;t writing &#8216;code&#8217;.<br />
Second, this exploit has been known since close to the iPhone being launched.<br />
Third, why should anyone care. What are the SPECIFIC items to be aware of, and also how can I fix it.</p>
<p>Erik, a fine piece of grade A drivel I could find on any recent computer science graduates personal blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blow</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1764078</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the same security hole that iPhone hackers were using to install their own applications.  Jailbreak anyone???

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/debunk-yes-virgina-the-iphone-libtiff-exploit-can-also-be-use/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same security hole that iPhone hackers were using to install their own applications.  Jailbreak anyone???</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/debunk-yes-virgina-the-iphone-libtiff-exploit-can-also-be-use/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/16/debunk-yes-virgina-the-iphone-libtiff-exploit-can-also-be-use/'>http://www.enga...an-also-be-use/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Louis-Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763779</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis-Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fake Ballmer:

The really cool thing about Lyons is that he could post and behave in the voice of Jobs; you read Lyons, you thought there was a chance Steve might be behind it. It was that good. Not perfect, but real close.

You, on the other hand, do not make the faintest attempt at sounding like Ballmer; your posts here, on CNet and elsewhere are just two-liners that are a) not funny, b) not believable, c) not even mildly interesting. There is no redeeming value whatsoever to reading you. Either give it up or do it right, will you ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fake Ballmer:</p>
<p>The really cool thing about Lyons is that he could post and behave in the voice of Jobs; you read Lyons, you thought there was a chance Steve might be behind it. It was that good. Not perfect, but real close.</p>
<p>You, on the other hand, do not make the faintest attempt at sounding like Ballmer; your posts here, on CNet and elsewhere are just two-liners that are a) not funny, b) not believable, c) not even mildly interesting. There is no redeeming value whatsoever to reading you. Either give it up or do it right, will you ?</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763684</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@17

He is simulating someone getting a link via an email message on their iPhone and clicking on the link. That would take that user to Safari. Physical access is not required - the user has to only take a physical action (clicking on the link).

Kudos to Apple/Jobs for withstanding the whiplash and trying to take the time to secure the phone before opening up the SDK. Most consumers prefer/need that peace of mind more than the ability to add 3rd party apps immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@17</p>
<p>He is simulating someone getting a link via an email message on their iPhone and clicking on the link. That would take that user to Safari. Physical access is not required &#8211; the user has to only take a physical action (clicking on the link).</p>
<p>Kudos to Apple/Jobs for withstanding the whiplash and trying to take the time to secure the phone before opening up the SDK. Most consumers prefer/need that peace of mind more than the ability to add 3rd party apps immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: www.CARversation.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763665</link>
		<dc:creator>www.CARversation.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is insane to the membrane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is insane to the membrane.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Liu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763614</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is so special about iphone this time? If there is a security problem, it must exists on all other smart phone as well as Macs too. 

The funny thing is from the video I did not see how did he break into that iphone, seems he have physical access to a iphone and run some pre-installed software on that poor iphone by click a link from Safari. The problem is how did the link get into Safari in the first place?

Just want to say of course it is very easy to break into a computer (iphone in this case) if you have physical access to this computer. But the question is in most case do you really have physical access to somebody else&#039;s iphone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so special about iphone this time? If there is a security problem, it must exists on all other smart phone as well as Macs too. </p>
<p>The funny thing is from the video I did not see how did he break into that iphone, seems he have physical access to a iphone and run some pre-installed software on that poor iphone by click a link from Safari. The problem is how did the link get into Safari in the first place?</p>
<p>Just want to say of course it is very easy to break into a computer (iphone in this case) if you have physical access to this computer. But the question is in most case do you really have physical access to somebody else&#8217;s iphone?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763597</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhones are and always have been evil and insecure!
Get windows mobile, even the owner can&#039;t get into it sometimes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhones are and always have been evil and insecure!<br />
Get windows mobile, even the owner can&#8217;t get into it sometimes!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris G</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763553</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who can patch into your phone number can listen through your cell-phone&#039;s microphone even if the phone is turned off. This is true of any cell phone. The only true safeguard is removing the phone&#039;s battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who can patch into your phone number can listen through your cell-phone&#8217;s microphone even if the phone is turned off. This is true of any cell phone. The only true safeguard is removing the phone&#8217;s battery.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763551</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s from AT&amp;T ... It&#039;s already a spy phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s from AT&amp;T &#8230; It&#8217;s already a spy phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Goffinet</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763527</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Goffinet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One very interesting technique you can do to completely get around the &#039;make a user click on a link&#039; aspect is the man in the middle attack. There are some open source projects that allow you to inject / replace data in wifi networks that were shown at Defcon. So what you can do is replace images that are being requested with an actual link to your exploit on the net, and now safari has loaded the link (thinking its an image..) without your consistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One very interesting technique you can do to completely get around the &#8216;make a user click on a link&#8217; aspect is the man in the middle attack. There are some open source projects that allow you to inject / replace data in wifi networks that were shown at Defcon. So what you can do is replace images that are being requested with an actual link to your exploit on the net, and now safari has loaded the link (thinking its an image..) without your consistent.</p>
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		<title>By: fcwest</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763508</link>
		<dc:creator>fcwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch the last 10 sec. &quot;This is not just a problem for the iPhone. This is a problem for any smarthphone. For any widely distributed computing device.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch the last 10 sec. &#8220;This is not just a problem for the iPhone. This is a problem for any smarthphone. For any widely distributed computing device.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763498</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scary !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scary !</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763445</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! 

I can assure you this guys reads AstroPhysics magazines for a hobby, whereas, most of us given the choice would opt for EZPN Zone magazine or Playboy.

All the hedge funds ears are now perking like a deer in the woods. These are some of the tactics they could use to gain &quot;research information&quot;. Of course I&#039;m not saying they would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! </p>
<p>I can assure you this guys reads AstroPhysics magazines for a hobby, whereas, most of us given the choice would opt for EZPN Zone magazine or Playboy.</p>
<p>All the hedge funds ears are now perking like a deer in the woods. These are some of the tactics they could use to gain &#8220;research information&#8221;. Of course I&#8217;m not saying they would.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763442</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realize that things like email and voicemail are stored locally to the phone in db files - for email I could see as a way of caching, but voicemail?  I assumed these were requested from a server for playback - same as normal phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize that things like email and voicemail are stored locally to the phone in db files &#8211; for email I could see as a way of caching, but voicemail?  I assumed these were requested from a server for playback &#8211; same as normal phones.</p>
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		<title>By: whoopie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763441</link>
		<dc:creator>whoopie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trust apple. apple knows best. ignore the man behind the curtain, you don&#039;t need an open mobile platform. ease of use is more important than security.

ease of use
ease of use
ease of use

we apple droids will just beat you over the head with this non-sequiter no matter what the criticism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trust apple. apple knows best. ignore the man behind the curtain, you don&#8217;t need an open mobile platform. ease of use is more important than security.</p>
<p>ease of use<br />
ease of use<br />
ease of use</p>
<p>we apple droids will just beat you over the head with this non-sequiter no matter what the criticism</p>
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		<title>By: Tech Narf</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763438</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Narf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>psychiatrist consultations afterwards will eat all your profits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>psychiatrist consultations afterwards will eat all your profits</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Mah</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763437</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Mah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha this is rediculous!

But I do agree with comment #3, Paly - you really need to be a moron to click on a random link from a random text message!

Apple&#039;s still got a long way to go with fixing up all of these iPhone problems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha this is rediculous!</p>
<p>But I do agree with comment #3, Paly &#8211; you really need to be a moron to click on a random link from a random text message!</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s still got a long way to go with fixing up all of these iPhone problems</p>
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		<title>By: North Shore Bogan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763431</link>
		<dc:creator>North Shore Bogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait for the GPS enabled iPhone to show up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait for the GPS enabled iPhone to show up!</p>
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		<title>By: JoeTech.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763418</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeTech.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paly, Paris Hilton has no common sense, yet her conversations can be very profitable to spy on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paly, Paris Hilton has no common sense, yet her conversations can be very profitable to spy on.</p>
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		<title>By: Paly</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763415</link>
		<dc:creator>Paly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any of these security issues are easily avoided with common sense.  If you don&#039;t have enough sense to not click on suspicious links or use suspicious networks by now, I would imagine you&#039;re not in a position to have conversations that are worth spying on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any of these security issues are easily avoided with common sense.  If you don&#8217;t have enough sense to not click on suspicious links or use suspicious networks by now, I would imagine you&#8217;re not in a position to have conversations that are worth spying on.</p>
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		<title>By: Anif™</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763414</link>
		<dc:creator>Anif™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paris Hilton better patch up her iPhone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Hilton better patch up her iPhone</p>
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		<title>By: JoeTech.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/16/turning-the-iphone-into-a-spyphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1763402</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeTech.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great example of why you should always be careful with where you keep sensitive data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great example of why you should always be careful with where you keep sensitive data.</p>
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