The DRM camp is now saying that copying is good—to a degree. The upcoming DVD release on November 20 of Live Free or Die Hard will be the first to allow digital copies to your PC and one other USB-attached device. That’s two copies for the price of one DVD. The folks at Fox are calling this a Fox Digital Copy, and plan to roll it out with future DVDs as well. The catch: any device you put it on needs to be compatible with Microsoft’s PlayforSure DRM technology. That excludes all iPods, Sony PSPs, and even Zunes.
Well, at least you can copy it to your computer (unless you have a Mac). Or unless you have one of those—what do you call them—DVD slots, which let you play the DVD without wasting time copying it over or hard drive space. Do you think the Hollywood managers at Fox realize the irony of releasing a DRMed DVD with “Live Free” in the title?
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Good thing my Mac has ffmpegX.
They will never learn. Until it becomes easier to copy from dvd than to download from the net(torrents, irc, lamewire etc) they are fighting an uphill battle.
Think how ridiculous it is to pay for the same product 1-5 times. What they should do it make the movie ticket $20 . When the movies comes out on DvD i can download it free form their website or order it dvd media for a few bucks. People that did not see it in theaters can pay full price. I can also download an ipod version free of charge. This also goes for all future media such as HD-DVD or whatever they come with next.
There are some films that have were release in theaters->vhs->dvd->blue-ray->itunes
such BS.
“Do you think the Hollywood managers at Fox realize the irony of releasing a DRMed DVD with “Live Free” in the title?”
NO!
Irony?
Are you not free NOT to buy the thing? I mean what has it come to when a crummy product is on offer, delivered in a package we don’t want, but we can voluntarily not purchase it, becomes a breach of our freedom?
And if a product is not offered in the form you want it, it does not legitimize stealing it. That’s intellectually lazy, it’s morally wrong, and it bears a striking resemblance to the thinking of a toddler.
I don’t know what it is about these movies that people just can’t imagine living without them, but it’s pretty weak.
I wonder how many Macs were used in the development of this film, yet us Mac media fanatics won’t even be able to benefit from this. Let’s get rid of all this red tape, just give me my movie!
That’s funny. What a joke. DRM is complete BS and it needs to stop.
i sill think there are great movies on , http://www.orangekite.com
4. Are you trying to be smart?
Its not about the movie. Its about the fact that human beings are voracious consumers of intellectual capital. The more we get, the more we want. And… get this… the more we get… the better we are for it. Even the bad stuff. Thats just the way it is.
Our economy and all subsequent business models, as well as all social standards of “correct” behavior… these are transient. Our socio-economic standard is open for debate. Digital technologies introduce us to new capabilities, and some of these are not in sync with current socio-economic behavior expectations.
Many wish to challenge this state of affairs.
It is believed by some that we can mimick the best manners in which society should be structured, secured, empowered and set free to transact in predictably controllable and profitable manners. Do you agree?
We are studying human nature all the time.
Fox has an idea they would like to share with us. It is about giving us some new rights and empowerments while maintaining the corporate integrity of their franchised brand. Sure, we will take it. We will buy it. We will try to optimize our experience with it. We will hit a ceiling.
We wish to live without a ceiling that prevents us from standing straight and tall. Currently, this is not possible in digital commerce. We continue to run into limits and obstructions that fall short of our desires.
Standards, DRM, peer-to-peer, private temporary distributed networks… how do we wish to live?
What kind of America will we be?
Big questions just to buy a movie, huh?
This idea is ssssssoooooo lame!! Really, come on already. DRM does not work. Period
I will have to write a blog entry on my blog because I do not want to bore you all with my ranting!! Boy … they are going to “die hard”.
Allowing selective copying is like getting free marketing for the trailer.
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LOL, “allow” me to make private copies? Ha ha, UM… FYI, Fox:
U.S. Copyright Law does not forbid any property owner from making private copies of her copyrighted property, so long as she do not **DISTRIBUTE** the copies (or, according so some courts, ‘make the copies available for distribution’).
Copy away, folks. Fox can’t sue you. It’s your property. Just don’t accidentally drop the file in your shared internet folder –– you would then be ‘making it available for distribution’, and that’s now illegal.
Reminiscent of the exchange in the South Park episode where the boys go to Wal-Mart. (Paraphrased from memory)
Cartman: Look! Two copies of Die Hard 4: Die Hardererer for $19.99!
Kyle: Why would you want more than one copy of Die Hard 4?
Cartman: Because one copy is $12, this way you save like 4 bucks!
Kyle: Alright. (picks up DVDs) Wait, I don’t even want one copy of Die Hard 4!
@Randy: Fox *could* sue you for making a backup copy of any DVD - not under copyright law, but under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). The DCMA forbids circumventing DVD encryption for any reason, even if that reason is otherwise considered fair use.
More info on the consequences of the DMCA:
http://www.eff.org/wp/unintend.....under-dmca
Which brings up the question: how is Fox not violating the DMCA themselves by providing a means to copy encrypted DVD content to a computer?
There are so many limitations to where you can copy it, I have my doubts as to how successful this will be.
Actually, thanks to them providing a DVD, you can make a copy without overriding any copy protection. It’s called “ripping,” and I do that often to enjoy my DVD shows, which I legally own, on my iRiver (I dislike iPod anyways).