Comments on: Inbox 2.0 Makes Me Sad http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/ Startup and Tech News Tue, 13 May 2008 06:12:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: www.ubraniaroxy.pl » Blog Archive » The New Yahoo: Sticky, Viral, And Most Of All, Friendly http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2282129 www.ubraniaroxy.pl » Blog Archive » The New Yahoo: Sticky, Viral, And Most Of All, Friendly Thu, 08 May 2008 00:29:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2282129 [...] about parts of this since last November. First were details about how webmail will serve as the social networking hub, followed by more tidbits in January. In March they joined the Google-led Open Social initiative. [...] […] about parts of this since last November. First were details about how webmail will serve as the social networking hub, followed by more tidbits in January. In March they joined the Google-led Open Social initiative. […]

]]> By: Zenbe: Le webmail nouvelle génération http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2280500 Zenbe: Le webmail nouvelle génération Wed, 07 May 2008 10:04:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2280500 [...] être fait avec de telles applications. Le temps est peur-être venu pour le lancement d’une vraie platefome sociale autour de [...] […] être fait avec de telles applications. Le temps est peur-être venu pour le lancement d’une vraie platefome sociale autour de […]

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Le nouveau Yahoo sera social, viral et surtout convivial http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2253998 TechCrunch en français » Le nouveau Yahoo sera social, viral et surtout convivial Sat, 03 May 2008 05:45:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2253998 [...] Au départ plusieurs détails furent annoncés sur la volonté de transformer le webmail en un réseau social complet. En Mars ils rejoignirent GoogleOpen social. Ils ont depuis fait une série d’annonces autour [...] […] Au départ plusieurs détails furent annoncés sur la volonté de transformer le webmail en un réseau social complet. En Mars ils rejoignirent GoogleOpen social. Ils ont depuis fait une série d’annonces autour […]

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Zenbe: Le webmail nouvelle génération http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2244218 TechCrunch en français » Zenbe: Le webmail nouvelle génération Thu, 01 May 2008 16:07:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2244218 [...] être fait avec de telles applications. Le temps est peur-être venu pour le lancement d’une vraie platefome sociale autour de [...] […] être fait avec de telles applications. Le temps est peur-être venu pour le lancement d’une vraie platefome sociale autour de […]

]]> By: Zenbe: Next-Generation Webmail, With A Platform Twist « Tecno Week http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2239331 Zenbe: Next-Generation Webmail, With A Platform Twist « Tecno Week Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:59:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2239331 [...] use the platform (once rolled out in full) to solve the email overload problem, or finally build a real social network around [...] […] use the platform (once rolled out in full) to solve the email overload problem, or finally build a real social network around […]

]]> By: Business News Research » The New Yahoo: Sticky, Viral, And Most Of All, Friendly http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2228986 Business News Research » The New Yahoo: Sticky, Viral, And Most Of All, Friendly Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:28:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2228986 [...] about parts of this since last November. First were details about how webmail will serve as the social networking hub, followed by more tidbits in January. In March they joined the Google-led Open Social initiative. [...] […] about parts of this since last November. First were details about how webmail will serve as the social networking hub, followed by more tidbits in January. In March they joined the Google-led Open Social initiative. […]

]]> By: The New Yahoo: Sticky, Viral, And Most Of All, Friendly « Tecno Week http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2223580 The New Yahoo: Sticky, Viral, And Most Of All, Friendly « Tecno Week Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:19:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2223580 [...] about parts of this since last November. First were details about how webmail will serve as the social networking hub, followed by more tidbits in January. In March they joined the Google-led Open Social initiative. [...] […] about parts of this since last November. First were details about how webmail will serve as the social networking hub, followed by more tidbits in January. In March they joined the Google-led Open Social initiative. […]

]]> By: The New Yahoo: Sticky, Viral, And Most Of All, Friendly http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2222293 The New Yahoo: Sticky, Viral, And Most Of All, Friendly Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:54:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2222293 [...] about parts of this since last November. First were details about how webmail will serve as the social networking hub, followed by more tidbits in January. In March they joined the Google-led Open Social initiative. [...] […] about parts of this since last November. First were details about how webmail will serve as the social networking hub, followed by more tidbits in January. In March they joined the Google-led Open Social initiative. […]

]]> By: November 15, 2007 | TechTV Update http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2068068 November 15, 2007 | TechTV Update Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:14:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-2068068 [...] into the battle. Maybe. The New York Times says this is happening. TechCrunch thinks this is a sad idea; GigaOm thinks it’s brilliant. You decide. The Wall Street Journal is now embedding Digg [...] […] into the battle. Maybe. The New York Times says this is happening. TechCrunch thinks this is a sad idea; GigaOm thinks it’s brilliant. You decide. The Wall Street Journal is now embedding Digg […]

]]> By: Never get in a fight with someone who emails ink by the barrell http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1933883 Never get in a fight with someone who emails ink by the barrell Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:33:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1933883 [...] to state anything obvious here, I did a quick Google search on “sad inbox” and Michael Arrington’s link came on top. Though it was on entirely different [...] […] to state anything obvious here, I did a quick Google search on “sad inbox” and Michael Arrington’s link came on top. Though it was on entirely different […]

]]> By: Geburtstage « Richard Kolodziej http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1853845 Geburtstage « Richard Kolodziej Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:13:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1853845 [...]  In Deutschland sind sogenannte “social sites” so unbekannt wie das sogenannte “Web 2.0″, auch wenn ständig darüber gesprochen wird. Am populärsten wird hier wohl das StudiVZ sein, wo mich Thea wieder eingeschrieben hat. Nun plant Google (und Yahoo) auf Basis von Googlemail, eine eigene social site. [...] […]  In Deutschland sind sogenannte “social sites” so unbekannt wie das sogenannte “Web 2.0″, auch wenn ständig darüber gesprochen wird. Am populärsten wird hier wohl das StudiVZ sein, wo mich Thea wieder eingeschrieben hat. Nun plant Google (und Yahoo) auf Basis von Googlemail, eine eigene social site. […]

]]> By: pond http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1800681 pond Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:15:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1800681 tyf tyf

]]> By: With The Band - Zvi Band » Blog Archive » Communication Overload http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1796338 With The Band - Zvi Band » Blog Archive » Communication Overload Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:49:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1796338 [...] been thinking about this recently, with recent discussions of “Inbox 2.0” (e-mail derived social networking), and finally giving in and playing with Twitter. I still [...] […] been thinking about this recently, with recent discussions of “Inbox 2.0” (e-mail derived social networking), and finally giving in and playing with Twitter. I still […]

]]> By: pusat http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1776685 pusat Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:44:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1776685 Microsoft should Microsoft should

]]> By: Business News Research » Inbox 2.0 Makes Me Sad http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1775314 Business News Research » Inbox 2.0 Makes Me Sad Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:55:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1775314 [...] VIEW ORIGINAL ARTICLE Add to del.icio.us • Digg this!   [...] […] VIEW ORIGINAL ARTICLE Add to del.icio.us • Digg this!   […]

]]> By: Blog about Contactology - Web-based email marketing software » Blog Archive » What to Tell Your Boss About “Inbox 2.0″ http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1772227 Blog about Contactology - Web-based email marketing software » Blog Archive » What to Tell Your Boss About “Inbox 2.0″ Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:08:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1772227 [...] Inbox 2.0 Resources: Inbox 2.0: Yahoo and Google to Turn E-Mail Into a Social Network Inbox 2.0 Makes Me Sad Web 2.0 November 19th, 2007 by [...] […] Inbox 2.0 Resources: Inbox 2.0: Yahoo and Google to Turn E-Mail Into a Social Network Inbox 2.0 Makes Me Sad Web 2.0 November 19th, 2007 by […]

]]> By: Darren Herman - Marketing, Advertising, Media and Technology Blog » Blog Archive » Email. Thought it was going somewhere? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1762987 Darren Herman - Marketing, Advertising, Media and Technology Blog » Blog Archive » Email. Thought it was going somewhere? Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:49:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1762987 [...] been lots of talk about how we need Inbox 2.0 or that kids don’t use email any more (only IM, social network messaging, etc) but remember, [...] […] been lots of talk about how we need Inbox 2.0 or that kids don’t use email any more (only IM, social network messaging, etc) but remember, […]

]]> By: seamus http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761858 seamus Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:12:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761858 Google mints money from search ads. If anyone were competitive with them on that, their margins would be lower, and their golden glow would be less blinding. I read today that Google is building 1MM square feet of office space at NASA. What vision they have! Google mints money from search ads. If anyone were competitive with them on that, their margins would be lower, and their golden glow would be less blinding.

I read today that Google is building 1MM square feet of office space at NASA. What vision they have!

]]> By: gmail user http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761618 gmail user Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:35:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761618 interesting article indeed. you seem to underestimate these old web companies. google has still a long way to go to wash away yahoo. what strategic vision? more apps or more data inside? google missed out on the facebook api by following up with a weak friendster clone named orkut. google missed out on flickr by investing into the desktop app picasa, google missed out on folksonomy (because of adsense) and del.icio.us giving us the not so great google notes and some flakey personalized search notes. how will they manage to integrate jots wiki and team up against yahoo´s cooperation with wikipedia? shouldn´t they better buy and wikify britannica? then where is the app which integrates the apps, the better ning? unlikely that google mashup will be as visionary and easy to use as yahoo pipes. when will they burry google video? the constant weakness on the music and entertainment side, why didn´t they swallow up audioscrobbler/last.fm (and their massive inflow of relevant metadata )? the social graph is overrated as one of the last hysterias of this late summer of web2, it is one of many possible graphs in the area of semantic networks and google is quite busy ruling and understanding each and every niche at once. now they even want to replace symbian with their own mobile linux within a year... it still has to be seen if they will enter the linux embedded market too (openwrt)... meanwhile they are working on making search better every day, and this is where they should focus on making google the command line of the web instead of branching out in each and every area of web applications. they do not show all the intelligence they´d needed on the level of capturing enough sources of structured data. where is the support of microformats and rdf which would help to gain momentum for calendar and maps? it seems google runs into their own management problems. besides using email itself as yet another source of invite spam they could be rather preventing spam by establishing networks of trust and not just use opensocial a exchange standard for more unmaintained profile graveyards, but focus on productivity enhancement, coherent group conversations, and the integration of mailinglists, wiki, calendaring with email would mean that google gives gmail and groupware usecases a more central function to be able to compete with zimbra. it would be not the last time where yahoo has the better app and soon the (business) communities using it. so it´s totally the opposite. so why remembering every facebook app and in the long tail and the last hype around data visualisation features, eudora had it years ago and it didn´t help them to survive featuritis. interesting article indeed. you seem to underestimate these old web companies. google has still a long way to go to wash away yahoo. what strategic vision? more apps or more data inside? google missed out on the facebook api by following up with a weak friendster clone named orkut. google missed out on flickr by investing into the desktop app picasa, google missed out on folksonomy (because of adsense) and del.icio.us giving us the not so great google notes and some flakey personalized search notes. how will they manage to integrate jots wiki and team up against yahoo´s cooperation with wikipedia? shouldn´t they better buy and wikify britannica? then where is the app which integrates the apps, the better ning? unlikely that google mashup will be as visionary and easy to use as yahoo pipes. when will they burry google video? the constant weakness on the music and entertainment side, why didn´t they swallow up audioscrobbler/last.fm (and their massive inflow of relevant metadata )? the social graph is overrated as one of the last hysterias of this late summer of web2, it is one of many possible graphs in the area of semantic networks and google is quite busy ruling and understanding each and every niche at once. now they even want to replace symbian with their own mobile linux within a year… it still has to be seen if they will enter the linux embedded market too (openwrt)… meanwhile they are working on making search better every day, and this is where they should focus on making google the command line of the web instead of branching out in each and every area of web applications. they do not show all the intelligence they´d needed on the level of capturing enough sources of structured data. where is the support of microformats and rdf which would help to gain momentum for calendar and maps? it seems google runs into their own management problems. besides using email itself as yet another source of invite spam they could be rather preventing spam by establishing networks of trust and not just use opensocial a exchange standard for more unmaintained profile graveyards, but focus on productivity enhancement, coherent group conversations, and the integration of mailinglists, wiki, calendaring with email would mean that google gives gmail and groupware usecases a more central function to be able to compete with zimbra. it would be not the last time where yahoo has the better app and soon the (business) communities using it. so it´s totally the opposite. so why remembering every facebook app and in the long tail and the last hype around data visualisation features, eudora had it years ago and it didn´t help them to survive featuritis.

]]> By: Dave Nofmeister http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761525 Dave Nofmeister Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:35:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761525 I already am not very fond of yahoo mail as it is anyway. I just want a mail service, but it keeps adding a bunch of worthless widgets. I already am not very fond of yahoo mail as it is anyway. I just want a mail service, but it keeps adding a bunch of worthless widgets.

]]> By: Who needs InBox 2.0 when you can get Life 2.0? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761428 Who needs InBox 2.0 when you can get Life 2.0? Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:35:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761428 [...] Mike Arrington noted the stories that both Yahoo and Google are planning to build social networks around their email services. But [...] […] Mike Arrington noted the stories that both Yahoo and Google are planning to build social networks around their email services. But […]

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761181 Jason Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:50:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1761181 Its a good article but you fail to realize that on some level that are hoping that if they build enough little apps something will stick once they start throwing. Second they are looking to be a little bit more dynamic then they have been recently when it comes to generating new ideas and implementing them. You can call it an attempt to get at the google level of building apps consecutively. Also If they release the entire application to you and the world where is the element of surprise and immediecy that suprise gives. The chaos is a bit planned and a bit unplanned....keeps you guessing........... stick to reporting and not speculation if you must keep them sidebarred. Thanks, Jason Chicago IL. Its a good article but you fail to realize that on some level that are hoping that if they build enough little apps something will stick once they start throwing. Second they are looking to be a little bit more dynamic then they have been recently when it comes to generating new ideas and implementing them. You can call it an attempt to get at the google level of building apps consecutively. Also If they release the entire application to you and the world where is the element of surprise and immediecy that suprise gives. The chaos is a bit planned and a bit unplanned….keeps you guessing………..

stick to reporting and not speculation if you must keep them sidebarred.

Thanks,
Jason
Chicago IL.

]]> By: Rick http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1760783 Rick Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1760783 Yahoo is as messy as AOL. Bad management. No vision, no clear strategy. Poorly-designed services, amateur in general, much advertising. It's the absolute opposite of Google. Yahoo is too amateur and greedy at the same time. To date it isn't possible to access Yahoo Mail using POP/IMAP unless you pay, and the Yahoo Mail is full of advertising. Gmail is free of charge, accessible from POP/IMAP and has non-intrusive ads. I don't know how Yahoo has survived on this search-engine and email market. Yahoo is as messy as AOL. Bad management. No vision, no clear strategy. Poorly-designed services, amateur in general, much advertising. It’s the absolute opposite of Google. Yahoo is too amateur and greedy at the same time. To date it isn’t possible to access Yahoo Mail using POP/IMAP unless you pay, and the Yahoo Mail is full of advertising. Gmail is free of charge, accessible from POP/IMAP and has non-intrusive ads. I don’t know how Yahoo has survived on this search-engine and email market.

]]> By: Dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1760650 Dave Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1760650 Yahoo and Google are so Web 2.0 We are in the era of Web 3.0 - where multi-national corporations buy and control the Net! Yahoo and Google are so Web 2.0

We are in the era of Web 3.0 - where multi-national corporations buy and control the Net!

]]> By: JasonKolb.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1760024 JasonKolb.com Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:11:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/14/inbox-20-makes-me-sad/#comment-1760024 <strong>Floundering Towards a Human Network...</strong> Disclaimer: Before I get a nastygram from Cisco HR or legal, the title of this post does NOT refer to Cisco in any way but the Internet/technology community in general. I just think the term human network is a really... Floundering Towards a Human Network…

Disclaimer: Before I get a nastygram from Cisco HR or legal, the title of this post does NOT refer to Cisco in any way but the Internet/technology community in general. I just think the term human network is a really…

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