November 14, 2007

Google pitches Android to European mobile developers

Mike Butcher

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Dave Burke, an engineering manager within Google’s mobile team, stood up today at the Future of Mobile conference in London to talk about Android and the Open Handset Alliance (OHA), the new open mobile platform initiative from Google. This is the the first conference presentation in Europe on the subject since Google’s announcement on November 5th, and was live blogged by TechCrunch UK.

But if you were expecting much new information on all this you would probably have been disappointed. Burke introduce the OHA, outlined how it has 30+ industry leaders on board and how there is no gPhone, just a phone built by partners using the Android platform - this we already know. There was a run-down of what the platform will be capable of and a reminder that the SDK is a only a few days old and that we will probably not see handsets until the second half of next year when the full open source platform will be released.

He also did a fairly impressive demonstration of coding an application (in this case a mobile browser) inside 8mins (or 7mins 58 seconds to be exact - he timed it on stage).

Burke did say: “We’re really serious. We want to see serious innovation. We want operators and application developers to spend less time on little silos and more time building great stuff.” At the end he added an advert: “we’re hiring in Europe”.

During Q&A he said he hadn’t “heard” if Android will support Flash Lite, but he did say the Webkit would support Netscape style plugins.

How come Google is only releasing the full source code when the handsets hit the market next year? He said Google wanted to wait until it really worked on handsets before releasing the code.

What about the difference with the OpenMoko project, an open source mobile platform? “The difference with Moko is this [Android] is real,” he said “We have a lot of momentum with key partners. We are not talking about specifications, we’re just building it and trying to get support.”

One questioner asked if Google would be subject to anti-trust allegations given that a lot of Google applications will come default with the handsets, but Burke gave the impression that this would be unlikely as handset makers could “swap out applications.” We’ll see I guess.

So what’s the upshot of all this? In terms of content perhaps not a great deal. If one were to be cynical, one would say that this was mainly about a Google guy appearing in London (which has a big mobile community) at a conference aimed at mobile developers, and was in hiring mode…

[Update: Here’s some video I shot of the Android interface being demo’d]

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  1. Chris R.

    Why didn’t you post a video?

    “During Q&A he said he hadn’t “heard” if Android will support Flash Lite, but he did say the Webkit would support Netscape style plugins.”

    This is very unopen source. Normally a CVS or SVN would be posted with the code in beta stages for a FOSS project.
    They aren’t posting it because they don’t want it fragmented and resold before they release it.
    That’s the truth.

    Otherwise companies like OpenMoko could refine Android and release it before Google does. It’s GPL so that’s legal.

    You guys REALLY NEED a technical adviser to give you some insight into the announcements and decisions made by developers. You don’t have the technical background or knowhow to write good articles. I’m sorry.

  2. Chris R.

    Legally by GPL, they only need to post the sources ONCE they start distributing it.
    http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

    I am a member of the FSF and heard the big long speech last March from Stallman et al.

  3. Mike Butcher

    Chris R - First move to London where the average house price is 600,000 US (at least). Then take a paycut to the wages of blogger/journalist from being a technical adviser. Then learn to blog and take video *at the same time*. Then criticise. I’ll post what video I have as soon as it’s encoded for online.

  4. Roberto Galoppini

    I agree with you, so far no news. Despite the demo was pretty cool, I think he missed to answer a bunch of interesting questions about the future of this platform.

    As a matter of fact the technological club behind OHA seems willing to not disclose the platform until they will eventually get their first mobile equipments on the shelf. One year, he said. A result that could be easy obtained with a deffered GPLv2/v3. The club apparently likes the apache license more, a risky bet considering OEM’s hystorical attitude to proprietarize the “commons” (read Symbian).

    I wish them all the best, but lock-down strategies are enabled by a not copyleft license, and this market has greatly proven to not be able to share any sort of standard..

  5. Chris R.

    “Chris R - First move to London where the average house price is 600,000 US (at least). Then take a paycut to the wages of blogger/journalist from being a technical adviser.”

    I was in London in 2006. I pity you for having to drive on the wrong side of the road. It’s horribly dangerous. Exits are on the left side as well and your roundabouts are deadly.

    I did enjoy your fine dining at Little Chef though, Olympic burger, magnifique!

    I actually have the title of President, but that is only titular. I am writing a search engine, and have almost finished it. I understand that you personally can not have that much knowledge, but it has been published in reputable online journals that TechCrunch makes over a quarter million dollars per month. That’s hardly what I would consider too marginal to hire somebody to fact check and give insight.

    So I don’t fault you. I fault Mike Arrington for being cheap. Let it be known.
    Mike hold off on buying that sports car of the month and get some much needed help for your writers.

    BTW, I would love to live in a 600k house! :)

  6. Chris R.

    BTW, I got a congestion fee ticket with the photo thing. Damn the British! It cost me over $200 for a 10 pound fee. I didn’t even know I was supposed to pay it. Hardly fair indeed.

  7. Chris

    Hey, the conference was great, I really really liked the look of android, I’m a microsoft developer, but really like it….did anyone else want to punch the kid in the head who asked the annoying questions about media queries and c++ speed over java…what a d**k

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    cool

  9. Rodrigo

    Finally!!!

  10. Mike Butcher

    Update: I have now posted some video I shot of the Android interface being demo’d. Obviously it won’t be up to Chris R’s high standards, for which I apologise in advance. I’ll head back to my Ye Olde London hovel now, driving on the wrong side as I go, to my dinner of fish and chips. Oh yes.

  11. Jay Vaughan

    Errm.. yeah .. OpenMoko.

    Guess what? I have an OpenMoko phone *in my hands right now* that I am actively *writing apps for, right now*, without problems, without sweat. Without hassle.

    So I’d say OpenMoko is far more real than Android. Lets see an actual phone running Android, before we start crapping on the first-out-of-the-gate OpenMoko system - which, incidentally, will allow you to run Android, or QTopia, or whatever else you want on your phone.. so pretty soon, Android is going to be “just another linux distribution for your cell phone” trivia ..

  12. Mobile Social Network

    Lol…

    Atleast this thread made me laugh.

    BTW I read the average house price in London (central) is actually now over £1m (thats $2m at the magnifique exchange rate ;-)