You said above that you paid $1000 on getafreelancer for a shopping.com/shopzilla.com clone..

I’m looking to have a clone done as well, maybe I can purchase a copy of your script? You can email me at ryansads@gmail.com

Paul Newman Rolex Daytona Cosmograph…

@113: Doesn’t matter. You’ve proven that you’re pretty untrustworthy and its more than likely you’ll skew the results, so unless you provide 100% unedited documents to go with the paper we’ll probably ignore it.

Indy developers generally do not have access to multiple server arrays. If you get a freelancer to code anything, count on it not being scalable. Distributed computing is an advanced topic that university students grapple with. It’s a prerequisite in my CS degree.

The average job wage for a computer programmer is well over $85,000 USD
When you say these people are earning $2400 per year, and there are no independent studies on hiring them without setting up a veritable factory and training them manually, I would say there is a problem.

The same people that use these services are the same kind not to want to inform themselves before making big decisions. Not the types to read white papers. Perhaps that should change. Perhaps they should get some fog cutting goggles before they jump into the pool??

I hope to fund more than one coder for this study, since I got bids between $100-200 per programmer.
rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=805902

I think it’s sad that I was the first person to actually want to do this??
It shows that people are willing to throw tons of money away without doing any research first.

The average job wage for a computer programmer is well over $85,000 USD
When you say these people are earning $2400 per year, and there are no independent studies on hiring them without setting up a veritable factory and training them manually, I would say there is a problem.

The same people that use these services are the same kind not to want to inform themselves before making big decisions. Not the types to read white papers. Perhaps that should change. Perhaps they should get some fog cutting goggles before they jump into the pool??

I hope to fund more than one coder for this study, since I got bids between $100-200 per programmer.
http://www.rent...equestId=805902

I think it’s sad that I was the first person to actually want to do this??
It shows that people are willing to throw tons of money away without doing any research first.

“Does your mom come in and clean the ‘office’ on the weekends for you?”
I only wish.
The office is only empty on weekends and after 5PM though.

“. Someone who actually had a business to run wouldn’t have the time or the inclination to post numerous meaningless comments every day”

That’s not because I don’t run the business, and program, that’s because i have no life.

I think these people should be studied. Unfortunately with the costs of bandwidth we have to incur soon I can only fund a white paper. These people know they are making less than burger flippers right?
http://www.pays...ger_King/Salary
Assistant manager is 8 months tops if you’re not retarded.

So with that said, why would they take these jobs?
I think that the actual reason is that they don’t have the “science” part of “computer science”. Such as they may be good at writing CSS, but they don’t have the skills to do hard core engineering. That’s what this white paper will test. I want to see if these people actually have computer engineering skills and are working essentially for free. I doubt it. I will try and ask (OMG) for a microcontroller solution as well as part of the test suite, though I don’t have my hopes up.

Your average Burger King employee here makes more than that. I’m not joking. Even 14 year olds that work after school with work permits. As a matter of fact when I was in high school and college working at said Burger King, I in fact made more than that.

“1. You might want to remove the ‘W3C CSS 2.0′ link on the bottom of your website because your site fails validation badly.”

http://validato...software.com%2F
All our pages pass validation.

Lastly, I think it was a little too much wanting to create a video, I will relist the project on RAC as a 1 month test period only to create a white paper. The video is going a bit too far, and it will most likely be bland an uninteresting like pretty much everything else that comes from those areas. I will list the white paper on our website.

The market is so hot for good developers here in India that they get snapped up by the larger software companies and what’s left are the hardcore independents who are as temperamental as the guys back home (U.S.) or the dregs with just a year of coding experience with no knowledge of the newest technologies available or probably the latest coding techniques. If you need to hire a halfway decent team that will not quit their “company” halfway thru a project because they got a better job you better select a more stable company and be prepared to pay. $1500 is beer money or more likely Scotch Whiskey money. The cost differential between Indian and American programmers is closing rapidly – at least for the good ones.

I know Mick (good guy!) and I have seen the tangler product and to “clone” it here with reliable team may be closer to $15-$20k, probably more. Also good luck trying to manage the development remotely.

Commenter#59 is right on the money, there are a lot of small inexperienced outfits that promise a lot but have very little understanding of how to complete and deliver on time. I have spent 4+ months spending time, money and effort on loser teams for my project and I have finally managed to find a world class designer and a dev team that I know will do an excellent job but its been a wild ride. My lessons learned book has a lot of chapters…

I paid via XOOM.com, I still have this guy’s passport, phone number and address but there was nothing I could do. I could not sue them b/c they are in India. Oh, I forgot to mention that was after 8 months of effort (chatting, skyping etc)

My advice is: look for either any programmer in North America, Europe or even China. You will have better result. You may have to pay more.

Once bitten twice shy

You know nothing of top programmers billing top dollars. I have worked on more than 50 projects and on multi-site environments — India, Spain, China, Brazil, Madrid, UK, US, etc.

The very top developers are those that earn the least from India. They don’t think much about the money and do so many overtimes working their butts off to get the job done and of highest quality.

Unlike top nations, who charge you for every little bit of work and quality. They are like cash registers that punch in every freaking detail.

Everyone who thinks it can’t be done: explain y-combinator!!! Look at digg!!

To those who think its 90% business skills, you may be right, but classing business skill as selling a business with no revenue stream to 1 of 3 big companies is delusional. That market cannot sustain itself forever, at some point they have to make money. Markets ALWAYS equalise, and that goes for google too. When that happens, your business model dries up.

Real businesspeople make money by helping their customers solve problems. Even today, shock horror, in this “web toy-point-0″ world there are millions of great businesses making a ton of money doing this very thing. Often they get VC only to SCALE their business to reach more paying customers – thats REAL investment…. you people live in a dreamworld.

1. You might want to remove the ‘W3C CSS 2.0′ link on the bottom of your website because your site fails validation badly.

2. To keep looking fresh, you might want to update the copyright of your website to ‘2007′ – makes it look like you’re up with current events (btw it’s nearly 2008).

3. Change your picture to something a little less scary (better lighting would be good). Show more of your face and remove the cap – trust me, it would look much more professional.

4. Great to see you’re proficient in VB (I assume 4.0 and above right?). Maybe move it to the end of the list after GTK+, Gnome, Xlib, etc?

5. ‘Our Customers’ needs some tweaking – for example, it’s a little silly under this title having ‘Various clients under NDA agreements’ and not actually listing the customers – would be probably better to just leave this off.

6. The InfoBar doesn’t match up across different languages – seems that when you’re speaking French you have heaps more going on – that’s really cool.

7. The whole ‘we only take Canadian dollars’ thing is… interesting… something I’ve not seen on other websites.

Other than that – keep up the great work. And keep your posts coming – the responses are truly fun to read.

http://www.meetingflex.com
Blazing Fast Video Search………………………………………….:-) ———–:)

Not everyone has big bucks or the programming knowledge to make their ideas reality. If you’re cautious and realistic in your expectations, these sites can be a huge help.

You don’t know anything about living in Europe (central o eastern), well I do and I’m sick to hear some lunatic Canadian/US ignorant, who thinks that outside North America world ends.

People in my country (Poland) earn around 400-500$ a month, lowest possible salary for full time job here is 350$ nett, so even for a fresh graduate a 1500$ offer would sound interesting. To quote your words: „I know that the cost of living is lower there, but generally so is the edu, and the quality”, that’s another BS from your mouth, polish, russian and other eastern/central European educational facilities have highest rating among all, coders (from Warsaw’s or Jagiellonian University) beat the crap out of your coders at „International Collegiate Programming Contest”, not to mention the fact that biggest minds US/CA has to import. Use your 60k+ year salary to pay for decent education for little kids at your neighborhood.

What can a fresh programmer earn here? around 500$ with a masters degree and no experience. After 2-3 years his salary increases to 1000$ nett, if he works as a project manager and has few people underneath, around 1500$-1700$. Later it goes up to even 3500$, but you it’s reserved mostly when you work in local branch of much bigger international corporation. Lately we can see increased growth of foreign large corporation offices like Google, Motorola and others near ‚academic’ areas, they seem to realized the potential that lies here.

150,000 in assets and capital… in Lindens dollars right?@%! Holy crap, I had no idea who I was dealing with! Does that include your Playstation and the money you borrowed from your mom?

You have a blog? Why?@%!

You are the funniest and most entertaining commenter I’ve ever had the pleasure of wasting my time with, this is too much fun…

You couldn’t piss me off if you tried but i did piss myself when I read you last reply! Explain to me what a whitepaper is again.