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	<title>Comments on: Study: Pre-Rolls Suck. (But What&#8217;s Better?)</title>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch’s Video Poll: Text Ads alongside videos the way to go?! , 77Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-2446182</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch’s Video Poll: Text Ads alongside videos the way to go?! , 77Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] majority of the respondents of TechCrunch’s poll on video advertising seem to think that Contextual text Ads around a video will prove to be the best way of advertising [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mais uma boa da Record &#124; o [cc] do [caiocesar] na [www]</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-2396356</link>
		<dc:creator>Mais uma boa da Record &#124; o [cc] do [caiocesar] na [www]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vídeo do Mundo Record é exibido um pequeno comercial, de quinze segundos. Nada demais. Afinal, não há solução melhor para o esquema. Por enquanto, ví comerciais da Coral e da [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Grusche</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1752590</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Grusche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution that we see is a value exchange ad model: agree to an upfront, honest exchange of your attention with a full-screen, two-way interactive ad to earn video content.  

With this type of solution, you can grant access to 30 minutes or 1 hour worth of all types of video streams.  When that time expires you watch another ad, not when you switch to another video.  By giving control to viewer to start, interact with and complete the ad at there own pace, you ensure the advertiser (who pays to keep content free) that their ad is engaged by the viewer.  

Other ad formats compete for attention over and around video or simply appear without consent to the point of distraction and frustration.  We believe making an explicit exchange:

- Respects viewers who we hope are savvy enough to understand the value exchange to keep content free.
- Gives advertisers guaranteed engagement especially when they build interactive ads and don't simply put up a :30.  
- Gives content owners a flexible format that separates ads from video in a honest, opt-in format. 

Paul Grusche Ultramercial</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution that we see is a value exchange ad model: agree to an upfront, honest exchange of your attention with a full-screen, two-way interactive ad to earn video content.  </p>
<p>With this type of solution, you can grant access to 30 minutes or 1 hour worth of all types of video streams.  When that time expires you watch another ad, not when you switch to another video.  By giving control to viewer to start, interact with and complete the ad at there own pace, you ensure the advertiser (who pays to keep content free) that their ad is engaged by the viewer.  </p>
<p>Other ad formats compete for attention over and around video or simply appear without consent to the point of distraction and frustration.  We believe making an explicit exchange:</p>
<p>- Respects viewers who we hope are savvy enough to understand the value exchange to keep content free.<br />
- Gives advertisers guaranteed engagement especially when they build interactive ads and don&#8217;t simply put up a :30.<br />
- Gives content owners a flexible format that separates ads from video in a honest, opt-in format. </p>
<p>Paul Grusche Ultramercial</p>
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		<title>By: gman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1750666</link>
		<dc:creator>gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prerolls do suck. I have no idea how many people do this but

1) if there is a "skip this ad" button I click it immediately

2) if there is no "skip this ad" button I just decide not to watch the video I was originally interested it. I close the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prerolls do suck. I have no idea how many people do this but</p>
<p>1) if there is a &#8220;skip this ad&#8221; button I click it immediately</p>
<p>2) if there is no &#8220;skip this ad&#8221; button I just decide not to watch the video I was originally interested it. I close the page.</p>
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		<title>By: drew olanoff</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1750585</link>
		<dc:creator>drew olanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>contextual contextual contextual.

when a company nails search within and displays ads on the fly matching the contents, it's game over.  that is the future and theres a lot of companies working on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>contextual contextual contextual.</p>
<p>when a company nails search within and displays ads on the fly matching the contents, it&#8217;s game over.  that is the future and theres a lot of companies working on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian Schonholz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1750071</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian Schonholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@35

I think you are right but still does not make it the most efficient way on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@35</p>
<p>I think you are right but still does not make it the most efficient way on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: nick of cebu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1749591</link>
		<dc:creator>nick of cebu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsk, tsk, tsk. All this brain-storming just for reinventing the wheel. TV has had several decades to perfect video ads, so video ads will be the same as TV ads. The only wrench is clickability, but it does not make a huge difference because once you start staring at video, you tend to forget about your mousy. 

As #5 (Greg) said, ads will become more long-form, and consequently they will get closer and closer to what the terrestial networks are dishing out today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsk, tsk, tsk. All this brain-storming just for reinventing the wheel. TV has had several decades to perfect video ads, so video ads will be the same as TV ads. The only wrench is clickability, but it does not make a huge difference because once you start staring at video, you tend to forget about your mousy. </p>
<p>As #5 (Greg) said, ads will become more long-form, and consequently they will get closer and closer to what the terrestial networks are dishing out today.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1748225</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pre-rolls do not suck, that's my favorite part.

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pre-rolls do not suck, that&#8217;s my favorite part.</p>
<p><a href="http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kligman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1748216</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Kligman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things I spoke about at the recent Video On the Net show (http://www.videoonthenet.com/2007/boston/web/confSchedule_hwsf1177584754.html#hwsf1177584754) in Boston was the need for innovation with online video. The whole "Video Advertising" industry is based on one thing, "What is the best/least way to upset a viewer’s experience".

The host on the panel, Anton Denissov, Analyst, Yankee Group, mentioned that there are 4 ways to monetize video now.

1. Advertising (which I call the necessary evil)
2. Sell-Through - This is Qoof's focus
3. Subscriptions 
4. On Demand/Rentals

I believe the industry is too focused on #1 and there is not enough innovation on the others. In addition I believe that in the next 12 - 24 months we will see the list of 4 grow to a list of 12. The innovators that come up with new ways to monetize video will have the greatest chance of success. It is time to start thinking outside the "advertising TV Box".

Come on guys! Let’s get innovative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I spoke about at the recent Video On the Net show (http://www.videoonthenet.com/2007/boston/web/confSchedule_hwsf1177584754.html#hwsf1177584754) in Boston was the need for innovation with online video. The whole &#8220;Video Advertising&#8221; industry is based on one thing, &#8220;What is the best/least way to upset a viewer’s experience&#8221;.</p>
<p>The host on the panel, Anton Denissov, Analyst, Yankee Group, mentioned that there are 4 ways to monetize video now.</p>
<p>1. Advertising (which I call the necessary evil)<br />
2. Sell-Through - This is Qoof&#8217;s focus<br />
3. Subscriptions<br />
4. On Demand/Rentals</p>
<p>I believe the industry is too focused on #1 and there is not enough innovation on the others. In addition I believe that in the next 12 - 24 months we will see the list of 4 grow to a list of 12. The innovators that come up with new ways to monetize video will have the greatest chance of success. It is time to start thinking outside the &#8220;advertising TV Box&#8221;.</p>
<p>Come on guys! Let’s get innovative!</p>
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		<title>By: meetingflex.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1746360</link>
		<dc:creator>meetingflex.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting :-)

http://www.meetingflex.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.meetingflex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.meetingflex.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: IanGrove-Stephensen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1746147</link>
		<dc:creator>IanGrove-Stephensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had not come across Asterpix.com before and I'm wowed by its potential. That is just the tightest targeting I have ever seen. Imagine if the link over that jet ski there had been a link to the distributor's product page - what better endorsment could there be than that it's used to haul suicidal lunatics onto waves like that? The hotspot indicator is a little intrusive, but it could easily be reduced.

The other models you have looked at are all interruption advertising of one sort or another, and inevitably users will develop strategies to block or ingnore them. I would expect to see a much, much higher clickthrough rate for Asterpix' model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had not come across Asterpix.com before and I&#8217;m wowed by its potential. That is just the tightest targeting I have ever seen. Imagine if the link over that jet ski there had been a link to the distributor&#8217;s product page - what better endorsment could there be than that it&#8217;s used to haul suicidal lunatics onto waves like that? The hotspot indicator is a little intrusive, but it could easily be reduced.</p>
<p>The other models you have looked at are all interruption advertising of one sort or another, and inevitably users will develop strategies to block or ingnore them. I would expect to see a much, much higher clickthrough rate for Asterpix&#8217; model.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Finch</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1746071</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Finch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the hyperlinks are a great idea. Pre-roll advertising I hate. I can live with post-roll, but needs to be done in a tactful way. www.crenk.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the hyperlinks are a great idea. Pre-roll advertising I hate. I can live with post-roll, but needs to be done in a tactful way. <a href="http://www.crenk.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.crenk.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1745956</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn't a million dollar question.  It's a $70 Billion question.  Will web video advertising ultimately provide at least as much value to traditional brand advertisers as they get from broadcast TV?  We know the TV advertising model is broken.  We don't know if web video can replace it.  So far the results are discouraging...to advertisers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a million dollar question.  It&#8217;s a $70 Billion question.  Will web video advertising ultimately provide at least as much value to traditional brand advertisers as they get from broadcast TV?  We know the TV advertising model is broken.  We don&#8217;t know if web video can replace it.  So far the results are discouraging&#8230;to advertisers.</p>
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		<title>By: GC</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1745744</link>
		<dc:creator>GC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check-out brazilian start-up Boo-box.com... they've just released some contextual ad tools for videos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check-out brazilian start-up Boo-box.com&#8230; they&#8217;ve just released some contextual ad tools for videos</p>
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		<title>By: AW</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744649</link>
		<dc:creator>AW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 25:

I actually ignore pre-rolls all the time. This isn't the TV watching experience  we're talking about here-- I just hit mute and tab away (Firefox), then come back about a minute later when I remember (if I remember), then move the progress bar back to the beginning of the movie. I suspect a lot of people do that.

Well, I used to hit mute. Since I'm on Vista now I just kill the audio from FireFox until I'm ready. Takes about half a second since i keep the mixer open. Keeps my media player humming along happily without some guy blaring on about something I don't care about.

@ 26:

Hey, I'm not tryin' to super-hate or anything. I'm not even saying it has to be 100% automated, just (tangentially) relevant. 

I mean, hell, Google could set up some Mechanical Turk tasks: watch a video broken up into random lengths, and have the Workers apply tags to whatever content is present in those 5, 7 seconds. Might cost them a few cents that they'd make back in less than a day by people viewing the video. Every advertising-supported video that hits YouTube would have enough data within hours for them to target with relative accuracy.

I'm not in the advertising business or anything -- to me, it looks like a problem that could solved by existing technologies, rather than having to rely on complicated overlays (like, wtf is up with that player embedded in the post?!), or annoying pre-roll / post-rolls that doesn't even guarantee a view for the annoyance factor.

Sorry if I sound mildly deranged: I just don't think it'll work in the long run for digital content when alternatives are a click (literally) away for end users.

If you've ever found yourself going to YouTube because it takes too long to find a video (or for the video to start)  on another site, you'll know what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 25:</p>
<p>I actually ignore pre-rolls all the time. This isn&#8217;t the TV watching experience  we&#8217;re talking about here&#8211; I just hit mute and tab away (Firefox), then come back about a minute later when I remember (if I remember), then move the progress bar back to the beginning of the movie. I suspect a lot of people do that.</p>
<p>Well, I used to hit mute. Since I&#8217;m on Vista now I just kill the audio from FireFox until I&#8217;m ready. Takes about half a second since i keep the mixer open. Keeps my media player humming along happily without some guy blaring on about something I don&#8217;t care about.</p>
<p>@ 26:</p>
<p>Hey, I&#8217;m not tryin&#8217; to super-hate or anything. I&#8217;m not even saying it has to be 100% automated, just (tangentially) relevant. </p>
<p>I mean, hell, Google could set up some Mechanical Turk tasks: watch a video broken up into random lengths, and have the Workers apply tags to whatever content is present in those 5, 7 seconds. Might cost them a few cents that they&#8217;d make back in less than a day by people viewing the video. Every advertising-supported video that hits YouTube would have enough data within hours for them to target with relative accuracy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not in the advertising business or anything &#8212; to me, it looks like a problem that could solved by existing technologies, rather than having to rely on complicated overlays (like, wtf is up with that player embedded in the post?!), or annoying pre-roll / post-rolls that doesn&#8217;t even guarantee a view for the annoyance factor.</p>
<p>Sorry if I sound mildly deranged: I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll work in the long run for digital content when alternatives are a click (literally) away for end users.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve ever found yourself going to YouTube because it takes too long to find a video (or for the video to start)  on another site, you&#8217;ll know what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744600</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AW,

  The difficulty of gathering contextually relevant data from a Video is greater than you think.  It has to be garnered in some sort of automated manner to produce a relevant ad.  This is not easy when you are talking about Short Form User Generated Content and requires human intervention (tagging) to assure editorial integrity.   Long form professional content is a bit easier but is not as much of a issue since people are used to commercials during their 30 min program.

There are many start-ups trying to tackle this problem: DigitalSmiths, ScanScout, AdaptTV to name a few.  But its neither foolproof or easy and with failure rates about 20% branded advertisers will not risk their ad appearing over content that could be damaging.

The solution is far from here so in the meantime people are looking for a viable solution for the obvious loss of ad dollars in the video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AW,</p>
<p>  The difficulty of gathering contextually relevant data from a Video is greater than you think.  It has to be garnered in some sort of automated manner to produce a relevant ad.  This is not easy when you are talking about Short Form User Generated Content and requires human intervention (tagging) to assure editorial integrity.   Long form professional content is a bit easier but is not as much of a issue since people are used to commercials during their 30 min program.</p>
<p>There are many start-ups trying to tackle this problem: DigitalSmiths, ScanScout, AdaptTV to name a few.  But its neither foolproof or easy and with failure rates about 20% branded advertisers will not risk their ad appearing over content that could be damaging.</p>
<p>The solution is far from here so in the meantime people are looking for a viable solution for the obvious loss of ad dollars in the video.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744576</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might be playing devils advocate here, but pre-rolls and post-rolls are still the most effective forms of advertising, even if they diminish the user experience. Lay-overs come close, but you can still ignore them where as you cant ignore a pre-roll for example. Sometimes advertising comes down to being annoying so you actually get a viewers attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be playing devils advocate here, but pre-rolls and post-rolls are still the most effective forms of advertising, even if they diminish the user experience. Lay-overs come close, but you can still ignore them where as you cant ignore a pre-roll for example. Sometimes advertising comes down to being annoying so you actually get a viewers attention.</p>
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		<title>By: AW</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744570</link>
		<dc:creator>AW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, all of these super complicated ideas...

Why can't we just get back to the basics? Why not just take the AdWords concept to another level? I mean, it seems to be working OK for text content.

Stick a 30 pixel high "bar" at the bottom of the video (longer is better) and display simple, contextual text ads. Is the user watching a Star Trek clip? Tell them that there are Star Trek DVDs on sale somewhere for mighty cheap. Did the video just change to a scene with a popular actor? Change the ad to something relevant -- if he's got a new movie that's about to hit theaters, link me to the site. That's advertising, but it's *useful* advertising.

I don't understand people wanting to foist 1990 methodologies into 2007's digital age -- it's like freaking *time-travel*, as if they completely skipped the information revolution. Who didn't notice the arrival of contextually useful information in advertising on the Internet?

It's like, I'm watching the Sci Fi channel and a commercial for Tampons comes on. Yes, Tampons. During the commercial break of Stargate: Atlantis. Really? REALLY? There's so many other things they could've showed me instead, but they picked Tampons. That is the very manifestation of advertisers just not paying attention to what they're doing at the moment.

I in no way shape or form am going to click on irrelevant *information* in the same way that watching a Sci Fi flick is going to make me want to bounce to the store for a Maxx Paxx of Period Stopping Power, because its *irrelevant* and *stupid.*

Advertising should at least be tangentially related to whatever the user's doing or watching.

Hell, TechCrunch is a good example of that -- look at the sidebar. Ton of ads, but they're all relevant to the readership.

Wow, rant off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, all of these super complicated ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we just get back to the basics? Why not just take the AdWords concept to another level? I mean, it seems to be working OK for text content.</p>
<p>Stick a 30 pixel high &#8220;bar&#8221; at the bottom of the video (longer is better) and display simple, contextual text ads. Is the user watching a Star Trek clip? Tell them that there are Star Trek DVDs on sale somewhere for mighty cheap. Did the video just change to a scene with a popular actor? Change the ad to something relevant &#8212; if he&#8217;s got a new movie that&#8217;s about to hit theaters, link me to the site. That&#8217;s advertising, but it&#8217;s *useful* advertising.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand people wanting to foist 1990 methodologies into 2007&#8217;s digital age &#8212; it&#8217;s like freaking *time-travel*, as if they completely skipped the information revolution. Who didn&#8217;t notice the arrival of contextually useful information in advertising on the Internet?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like, I&#8217;m watching the Sci Fi channel and a commercial for Tampons comes on. Yes, Tampons. During the commercial break of Stargate: Atlantis. Really? REALLY? There&#8217;s so many other things they could&#8217;ve showed me instead, but they picked Tampons. That is the very manifestation of advertisers just not paying attention to what they&#8217;re doing at the moment.</p>
<p>I in no way shape or form am going to click on irrelevant *information* in the same way that watching a Sci Fi flick is going to make me want to bounce to the store for a Maxx Paxx of Period Stopping Power, because its *irrelevant* and *stupid.*</p>
<p>Advertising should at least be tangentially related to whatever the user&#8217;s doing or watching.</p>
<p>Hell, TechCrunch is a good example of that &#8212; look at the sidebar. Ton of ads, but they&#8217;re all relevant to the readership.</p>
<p>Wow, rant off.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Heimlich</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744483</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Heimlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember back in the day when TV was aired live all the time because there was no tape and announcers would cut to a sponsored plug? yea, that seems to work the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember back in the day when TV was aired live all the time because there was no tape and announcers would cut to a sponsored plug? yea, that seems to work the best.</p>
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		<title>By: derek tumolo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744374</link>
		<dc:creator>derek tumolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a good way to enable short form video to pay for itself is to make it commercial to begin with. I've spent a significant amount of time watching ads and real tv on youtube, and a postroll on the tv that says when and what channel I can watch would not have been intrusive. Along the lines of commercials, perhaps video sites could show commercials in the related videos crawl.  The trick is that they'd have to be as entertaining as the best superbowl ads, all year round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a good way to enable short form video to pay for itself is to make it commercial to begin with. I&#8217;ve spent a significant amount of time watching ads and real tv on youtube, and a postroll on the tv that says when and what channel I can watch would not have been intrusive. Along the lines of commercials, perhaps video sites could show commercials in the related videos crawl.  The trick is that they&#8217;d have to be as entertaining as the best superbowl ads, all year round.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744269</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a couple of companies that are bringing Overlay technology to the next level.  The best of these I have seen is a start-Up called Panache www.panachetech.com  They are powering some of the bigger players according to their VP of Biz Dev.   Their tech allows the insertion of any interactive experience on top of a video.    There are some really great demo's of this on their site.  

The other company is out of the Netherlands and has similar technology - I forget their name but saw them at AdTech.  Both of these companies are not trying to define the format but instead offer a way for both the advertiser and the site to control how the message is delivered in very creative ways.   

The future of Video ads is not in the format but in the delivery of the message with each site/channel allowed to determine what works best for their viewers and advertisers.  With integration into the video and real time dynamic ads as the bingo the concept of Rolls will fade into the past as interactivity is developed inside the video itself and the message becomes the medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a couple of companies that are bringing Overlay technology to the next level.  The best of these I have seen is a start-Up called Panache <a href="http://www.panachetech.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.panachetech.com</a>  They are powering some of the bigger players according to their VP of Biz Dev.   Their tech allows the insertion of any interactive experience on top of a video.    There are some really great demo&#8217;s of this on their site.  </p>
<p>The other company is out of the Netherlands and has similar technology - I forget their name but saw them at AdTech.  Both of these companies are not trying to define the format but instead offer a way for both the advertiser and the site to control how the message is delivered in very creative ways.   </p>
<p>The future of Video ads is not in the format but in the delivery of the message with each site/channel allowed to determine what works best for their viewers and advertisers.  With integration into the video and real time dynamic ads as the bingo the concept of Rolls will fade into the past as interactivity is developed inside the video itself and the message becomes the medium.</p>
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		<title>By: nat kausik</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744237</link>
		<dc:creator>nat kausik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick
Thanks for the feedback on asterpix.   You can select the indicator to suit your tastes using the style button, ranging from (a) the “bold rectangle” that is the default for first time viewers who are otherwise unaware of the links in the video, (b)  muted rectangle, (c)  intermittent beacon, (d) or no indicator.  In all cases, the logo on the top right of the player turns green when a hot spot is present as a visual cue and the time bar indicates the span of the hyperlink.  So you don’t need to compromise on visual enjoyment to enjoy nonlinear navigation of the video.  I might add the links in the video can be to other videos such as in http://www.asterpix.com/console?avi=7695561
Best,
-nat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick<br />
Thanks for the feedback on asterpix.   You can select the indicator to suit your tastes using the style button, ranging from (a) the “bold rectangle” that is the default for first time viewers who are otherwise unaware of the links in the video, (b)  muted rectangle, (c)  intermittent beacon, (d) or no indicator.  In all cases, the logo on the top right of the player turns green when a hot spot is present as a visual cue and the time bar indicates the span of the hyperlink.  So you don’t need to compromise on visual enjoyment to enjoy nonlinear navigation of the video.  I might add the links in the video can be to other videos such as in <a href="http://www.asterpix.com/console?avi=7695561" rel="nofollow">http://www.asterpix.com/console?avi=7695561</a><br />
Best,<br />
-nat</p>
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		<title>By: www.carversation.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744206</link>
		<dc:creator>www.carversation.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like maybe something like bottom of screen is an ad</description>
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		<title>By: Yang Huang</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744199</link>
		<dc:creator>Yang Huang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree with Greg.

I wrote an article on my blog about the video pause ads I talked about earlier if anyone want to discuss.

http://www.3vitv.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree with Greg.</p>
<p>I wrote an article on my blog about the video pause ads I talked about earlier if anyone want to discuss.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.3vitv.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.3vitv.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/study-pre-rolls-suck-but-whats-better/#comment-1744192</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything that doesn't make you wait is better.  Making someone wait is the only 100% assured way to frustrate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything that doesn&#8217;t make you wait is better.  Making someone wait is the only 100% assured way to frustrate.</p>
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