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	<title>Comments on: Attack of the Splogs—One Of Our Posts Copied 152 Times Without Attribution</title>
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		<title>By: TagEdge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Posts Have Been Copied Without Proper Attribution</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-2492127</link>
		<dc:creator>TagEdge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Posts Have Been Copied Without Proper Attribution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog that I respect and religiously read every day, among some several other technology blogs, has posted a post pertaining to this issue. They called it spam blogs, or splogs, that indiscriminately take entire [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blog that I respect and religiously read every day, among some several other technology blogs, has posted a post pertaining to this issue. They called it spam blogs, or splogs, that indiscriminately take entire [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blight Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Profits From MySpace Attackers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-2005627</link>
		<dc:creator>Blight Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Profits From MySpace Attackers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] make a fairly convincing case that Google Adsense has been the single largest factor driving the creation of Splogs and MFA Webspam. Googles contribution to Virtual Blight goes beyond monetizing bad content for spammy webmasters. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] make a fairly convincing case that Google Adsense has been the single largest factor driving the creation of Splogs and MFA Webspam. Googles contribution to Virtual Blight goes beyond monetizing bad content for spammy webmasters. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bilgi yarışması</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1776719</link>
		<dc:creator>bilgi yarışması</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a simple solution for this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a simple solution for this</p>
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		<title>By: wade</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1755910</link>
		<dc:creator>wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way... they also have an RSS to that page...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way&#8230; they also have an RSS to that page&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wade</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1755909</link>
		<dc:creator>wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1755909</guid>
		<description>We have this problem. There is a, well almost a mirror of our blog, out there. Every post we do, in it's entirety... 

Our blog
http://blog.outdoorzy.com

Outdoorzy Poser!!!
http://www.newsalloy.com/feed/203753/

Nutz!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have this problem. There is a, well almost a mirror of our blog, out there. Every post we do, in it&#8217;s entirety&#8230; </p>
<p>Our blog<br />
<a href="http://blog.outdoorzy.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.outdoorzy.com</a></p>
<p>Outdoorzy Poser!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.newsalloy.com/feed/203753/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsalloy.com/feed/203753/</a></p>
<p>Nutz!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Paul Weber</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1754405</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Paul Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have this problem all the time.  I have my CC licence information on the bottom of my posts on my blog and in my feeds -- so my name and licence show up on the bot splogs, thus giving me credit at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this problem all the time.  I have my CC licence information on the bottom of my posts on my blog and in my feeds &#8212; so my name and licence show up on the bot splogs, thus giving me credit at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Kemmish</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1751725</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Kemmish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"second - we aren’t going to start suing people for doing this. It would be an incredible waste of time, and it wouldn’t even slow the copying let alone kill it. The search engines need to evolve to deal with this kind of stuff, and effectively keep it invisible. But the problem is those google ads…Google makes money of these sites. A lot of it in the aggregate. So they have an economic incentive NOT to fix the problem."

The only interpretation that the first half of this paragraph bears is that you're content for this plagiarism to happen.  So why raise it in the first place?

The second half of the paragraph is a neat illustration of why economies based on ideas proposed by people who can't follow a thought through to the end generally collapse in a heap.  In what sense is plagiarism "money for old rope" that being paid by Madison Avenue to write narcissistic op-ed pieces isn't?  Big fleas have littler fleas, upon their backs to bite 'em....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;second - we aren’t going to start suing people for doing this. It would be an incredible waste of time, and it wouldn’t even slow the copying let alone kill it. The search engines need to evolve to deal with this kind of stuff, and effectively keep it invisible. But the problem is those google ads…Google makes money of these sites. A lot of it in the aggregate. So they have an economic incentive NOT to fix the problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only interpretation that the first half of this paragraph bears is that you&#8217;re content for this plagiarism to happen.  So why raise it in the first place?</p>
<p>The second half of the paragraph is a neat illustration of why economies based on ideas proposed by people who can&#8217;t follow a thought through to the end generally collapse in a heap.  In what sense is plagiarism &#8220;money for old rope&#8221; that being paid by Madison Avenue to write narcissistic op-ed pieces isn&#8217;t?  Big fleas have littler fleas, upon their backs to bite &#8216;em&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Hickok</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1750431</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Hickok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't worry Michael Arrington...these intellectually lazy people can steal your blog post content, but obviously they can't respond in these comments as eloquently or as compelling as you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry Michael Arrington&#8230;these intellectually lazy people can steal your blog post content, but obviously they can&#8217;t respond in these comments as eloquently or as compelling as you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1749835</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, albeit somewhat reluctantly because it verges on spam. My full post on this is at http://heresypornographyandtreason.blogspot.com/2007/11/fighting-sploggers-techcrunch-and.html

If Erick feels this is over the line he has my permission to remove it.

--Rick Cook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, albeit somewhat reluctantly because it verges on spam. My full post on this is at <a href="http://heresypornographyandtreason.blogspot.com/2007/11/fighting-sploggers-techcrunch-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://heresypornographyandtre.....h-and.html</a></p>
<p>If Erick feels this is over the line he has my permission to remove it.</p>
<p>&#8211;Rick Cook</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian Schonholz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1749682</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian Schonholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys .... hypocrisy is inevitable. Whether you like it or not we are all guilty of being hypocrites. The question really is the degree and nature. When we look at other's problems we can more successfully attempt to be objective or at least take a higher intellectual ground. But when it comes to out "stuff", that high intellectual ground does not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys &#8230;. hypocrisy is inevitable. Whether you like it or not we are all guilty of being hypocrites. The question really is the degree and nature. When we look at other&#8217;s problems we can more successfully attempt to be objective or at least take a higher intellectual ground. But when it comes to out &#8220;stuff&#8221;, that high intellectual ground does not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1749648</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you've given me the text for my next sermon. (Okay, so it's a blog post at Heresy, Pornography and Treason.)

I do have a few practical (?) suggestions for you. The first is to watermark your copy. Not your pages, your copy. That way any robot who scoops it up will also get the "TechCrunch" all over it.

The second suggestion is to personalize your posts. That is make the material truly yours by things like repeated mentions of your site,  multiple links to related articles on your site, adopting a more personalized slant, etc.

Both of these go to the problem of attribution. The sploggers aren't going to go to the trouble of teasing this stuff out of your posts, especially the rewritten copy. That's too much like work after all.

There are a couple of legal-type things you can do without turning into a junior-jackboot version of the RIAA or spending a ton of money.

The first, and most important, is to copyright your blog. Make sure every post is copyrighted and incude a statement of terms of use in the TechCrunch site. This can be as copy-friendly as you want to make it, but specifically deny use to sploggers. This puts you on a firm footing legally.

Next, and almost as important, is complain long and loud to Google about all the AdSense ads the sploggers are using with the stolen material. With luck Google will pull their AdSense agreements. Even if Google does nothing on your specific complaints, if enough bloggers complain about the misuse of their posts, Google will be forced to deal with the problem.

And finally, there's that ol debbil the DMCA. File DMCA takedown notices against the egregious offenders with their ISPs or blog services and force them to take down the offending articles. Automate the process and keep doing it every time one of these guys reposts another of your articles. The sploggers will find easier prey soon enough.

Now, on the subject of hypocrisy. I've preached from the very beginning in Heresy Pornography and Treason that while free copying of material is an inevitable part of our brave new online world, theft for profit is not.

For the morally tone deaf among you: I'm saying it's unstoppable, not that it is all right. As an author I've had stuff reposted without payment or permission. I may not like it, but I recognize I can't stop it and I'm not losing any sleep over it. Okay?

But that's not what's going on here. Unlike people randomly reposting TechCrunch articles with or without attribution, people who steal content to sell it, whether directly or by loading their stolen content with AdSense ads, are in a different class, both practically and, at least in my mind, morally. Sploggers &lt;b&gt; can &lt;/b&gt; be stopped because there's a money trail.

But what, some of you ask, about the torrent sites that are loaded with ads? The answer is that they are vulnerable because unless they're doing business through the late, unlamented, Russian Business Network they can be tracked and shut down.

Why aren't they being shut down en masse? Because the RIAA and their ilk have chosen instead to conduct a campaign of legal terrorism aimed at intimidating the average downloader in the hope of scaring them out of the practice. (In other words they're crazy as a gang of bedbugs and not behaving rationally.)

And the copiers for profit should be stopped. Copying and reposting without economic gain is homage. Reposting for profit is theft and should not be tolerated.

--Rick Cook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;ve given me the text for my next sermon. (Okay, so it&#8217;s a blog post at Heresy, Pornography and Treason.)</p>
<p>I do have a few practical (?) suggestions for you. The first is to watermark your copy. Not your pages, your copy. That way any robot who scoops it up will also get the &#8220;TechCrunch&#8221; all over it.</p>
<p>The second suggestion is to personalize your posts. That is make the material truly yours by things like repeated mentions of your site,  multiple links to related articles on your site, adopting a more personalized slant, etc.</p>
<p>Both of these go to the problem of attribution. The sploggers aren&#8217;t going to go to the trouble of teasing this stuff out of your posts, especially the rewritten copy. That&#8217;s too much like work after all.</p>
<p>There are a couple of legal-type things you can do without turning into a junior-jackboot version of the RIAA or spending a ton of money.</p>
<p>The first, and most important, is to copyright your blog. Make sure every post is copyrighted and incude a statement of terms of use in the TechCrunch site. This can be as copy-friendly as you want to make it, but specifically deny use to sploggers. This puts you on a firm footing legally.</p>
<p>Next, and almost as important, is complain long and loud to Google about all the AdSense ads the sploggers are using with the stolen material. With luck Google will pull their AdSense agreements. Even if Google does nothing on your specific complaints, if enough bloggers complain about the misuse of their posts, Google will be forced to deal with the problem.</p>
<p>And finally, there&#8217;s that ol debbil the DMCA. File DMCA takedown notices against the egregious offenders with their ISPs or blog services and force them to take down the offending articles. Automate the process and keep doing it every time one of these guys reposts another of your articles. The sploggers will find easier prey soon enough.</p>
<p>Now, on the subject of hypocrisy. I&#8217;ve preached from the very beginning in Heresy Pornography and Treason that while free copying of material is an inevitable part of our brave new online world, theft for profit is not.</p>
<p>For the morally tone deaf among you: I&#8217;m saying it&#8217;s unstoppable, not that it is all right. As an author I&#8217;ve had stuff reposted without payment or permission. I may not like it, but I recognize I can&#8217;t stop it and I&#8217;m not losing any sleep over it. Okay?</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not what&#8217;s going on here. Unlike people randomly reposting TechCrunch articles with or without attribution, people who steal content to sell it, whether directly or by loading their stolen content with AdSense ads, are in a different class, both practically and, at least in my mind, morally. Sploggers <b> can </b> be stopped because there&#8217;s a money trail.</p>
<p>But what, some of you ask, about the torrent sites that are loaded with ads? The answer is that they are vulnerable because unless they&#8217;re doing business through the late, unlamented, Russian Business Network they can be tracked and shut down.</p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t they being shut down en masse? Because the RIAA and their ilk have chosen instead to conduct a campaign of legal terrorism aimed at intimidating the average downloader in the hope of scaring them out of the practice. (In other words they&#8217;re crazy as a gang of bedbugs and not behaving rationally.)</p>
<p>And the copiers for profit should be stopped. Copying and reposting without economic gain is homage. Reposting for profit is theft and should not be tolerated.</p>
<p>&#8211;Rick Cook</p>
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		<title>By: Iriseon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1749128</link>
		<dc:creator>Iriseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1749128</guid>
		<description>Almost every commenter here is guilty of being a splogger to some degree and are lashing out at TechCrunch for pointing it out.  The issue is not the issue.  The best defense is a good offense. 

Slow down...all that frantic copying has bolstered your headline scanning skill but lowered your reading comprehension.  Details, details.  There is no outright whining or calls for litigation or a movement to remove all the sploggers.  It is an article about blatant full-blown for-profit blog models that don't even try to create content, garnering a measly trickle of revenue from cut&#38;paste filigree in a nest of advertisements.  Read it again after the next Ritalin dose.

Methinks thou dost protest too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost every commenter here is guilty of being a splogger to some degree and are lashing out at TechCrunch for pointing it out.  The issue is not the issue.  The best defense is a good offense. </p>
<p>Slow down&#8230;all that frantic copying has bolstered your headline scanning skill but lowered your reading comprehension.  Details, details.  There is no outright whining or calls for litigation or a movement to remove all the sploggers.  It is an article about blatant full-blown for-profit blog models that don&#8217;t even try to create content, garnering a measly trickle of revenue from cut&amp;paste filigree in a nest of advertisements.  Read it again after the next Ritalin dose.</p>
<p>Methinks thou dost protest too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1748229</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1748229</guid>
		<description>They got me too!
I dont mind, the truth must be spead on thick and often!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They got me too!<br />
I dont mind, the truth must be spead on thick and often!</p>
<p><a href="http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1746841</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1746841</guid>
		<description>So what you're saying is, it has the exact same content, PLUS a nude picture of Jessica Alba in the middle?

Well, TC, I guess this is goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what you&#8217;re saying is, it has the exact same content, PLUS a nude picture of Jessica Alba in the middle?</p>
<p>Well, TC, I guess this is goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1746693</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1746693</guid>
		<description>This post is about plain old plagiarism.  When has plagiarism even been generally acceptable or even legal?  All those that want to look at this as TechCrunch hypocrisy are getting confused by the splogger's revenue model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is about plain old plagiarism.  When has plagiarism even been generally acceptable or even legal?  All those that want to look at this as TechCrunch hypocrisy are getting confused by the splogger&#8217;s revenue model.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/09/attack-of-the-splogs%e2%80%94one-of-our-posts-copied-152-times-without-attribution/#comment-1746275</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu, YMMV, as always. 

We develop very competitively priced software (a niche product with only five or six direct competitors worldwide) where Adwords worked extremely well for some years. Each dollar spent resulted in 2-3 dollars revenue. Today it's just a waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu, YMMV, as always. </p>
<p>We develop very competitively priced software (a niche product with only five or six direct competitors worldwide) where Adwords worked extremely well for some years. Each dollar spent resulted in 2-3 dollars revenue. Today it&#8217;s just a waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually noticed this happening for a few of my other blogs about 6 months ago while looking at my site stats... I believe that the minute we begin defining what is and isn't theft based on the medium or intent, it's already too late for us all. Google (and others) can easily get rid of splogs, it's in their own long term benefit to do this, and I am sure they are well aware and testing a system to heavily penalize sites doing this.

If you don't have money to buy your movies, rent them. If you don't have money to buy music, listen to the radio. If you have no originality of your own and wish to simply leech off others, go for it but always remember that what goes around comes around with far more force then you may realize.

I would say the ONLY exception to this rule is public data produced by gov or communally. TechCrunch isn't a communal effort nor produced by the gov, as such, copying is simply copyright infringement, no IFs ANDs or BUTs.

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually noticed this happening for a few of my other blogs about 6 months ago while looking at my site stats&#8230; I believe that the minute we begin defining what is and isn&#8217;t theft based on the medium or intent, it&#8217;s already too late for us all. Google (and others) can easily get rid of splogs, it&#8217;s in their own long term benefit to do this, and I am sure they are well aware and testing a system to heavily penalize sites doing this.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have money to buy your movies, rent them. If you don&#8217;t have money to buy music, listen to the radio. If you have no originality of your own and wish to simply leech off others, go for it but always remember that what goes around comes around with far more force then you may realize.</p>
<p>I would say the ONLY exception to this rule is public data produced by gov or communally. TechCrunch isn&#8217;t a communal effort nor produced by the gov, as such, copying is simply copyright infringement, no IFs ANDs or BUTs.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Axel: You are incorrect. We get great results from adwords. It is probably b/c of the specific products you are selling. but I can tell it works very well. We sell high-end audio equipment and are very competitively priced. You can't blame adwords for performance when you sell a highly commoditized good and/ or price them non-competitively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axel: You are incorrect. We get great results from adwords. It is probably b/c of the specific products you are selling. but I can tell it works very well. We sell high-end audio equipment and are very competitively priced. You can&#8217;t blame adwords for performance when you sell a highly commoditized good and/ or price them non-competitively.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axel Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 30% figure given by Jon in #15 is probably too low; I'd say the ads in splogs and other made-for-adsense (MFA) sites account for about 50-60%. Another 30 or so percent are from all those rubbish price comparison and product listing sites, the rest (hardly more than 10%) is probably genuine.

As for the quality of visitors you get via Google Adwords, you can pretty much forget about it nowadays. Even if you restrict your ads to search results only, it's just no longer worth it.  We started with the service back in 2002 and used to have a monthly budget between $3K and 5K before we gave up entirely on Adwords last year.

Basically, all of this is the result of Google's business model. The sad fact is that Google actually NEED splogs to maintain their current rate of growth. Just as another poster said, "Do no evil, my ass".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 30% figure given by Jon in #15 is probably too low; I&#8217;d say the ads in splogs and other made-for-adsense (MFA) sites account for about 50-60%. Another 30 or so percent are from all those rubbish price comparison and product listing sites, the rest (hardly more than 10%) is probably genuine.</p>
<p>As for the quality of visitors you get via Google Adwords, you can pretty much forget about it nowadays. Even if you restrict your ads to search results only, it&#8217;s just no longer worth it.  We started with the service back in 2002 and used to have a monthly budget between $3K and 5K before we gave up entirely on Adwords last year.</p>
<p>Basically, all of this is the result of Google&#8217;s business model. The sad fact is that Google actually NEED splogs to maintain their current rate of growth. Just as another poster said, &#8220;Do no evil, my ass&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about creating a "name and shame" website. If anyone come across a splogger enter their blog name on this site. 

"The following bloggers are known to plagiarise and pinch their material from others. We think they are pretty cheap" or some similarly righteously indignant admonition and ostracise them from the Honourable Order of Bloggers or whatever the Blogging Guild is called.

Maybe even capture and publicise their IP address  and block their future attempts to access other blog sites henceforth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about creating a &#8220;name and shame&#8221; website. If anyone come across a splogger enter their blog name on this site. </p>
<p>&#8220;The following bloggers are known to plagiarise and pinch their material from others. We think they are pretty cheap&#8221; or some similarly righteously indignant admonition and ostracise them from the Honourable Order of Bloggers or whatever the Blogging Guild is called.</p>
<p>Maybe even capture and publicise their IP address  and block their future attempts to access other blog sites henceforth.</p>
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		<title>By: eukhost blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>eukhost blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not good to copy other work but in this user generated content era you can not just stop some one to spread content like those do with rss syndication etc, however it is moral responsibility to take permission from the original creator before posting it and the bloggers should refer the link as original source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not good to copy other work but in this user generated content era you can not just stop some one to spread content like those do with rss syndication etc, however it is moral responsibility to take permission from the original creator before posting it and the bloggers should refer the link as original source.</p>
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		<title>By: Shams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Techcrunch is very famous and well-known. So some people will target it. When you are at the top, you are most visible. Hope soon there will be some kind of softwares that can stop these piracies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Techcrunch is very famous and well-known. So some people will target it. When you are at the top, you are most visible. Hope soon there will be some kind of softwares that can stop these piracies.</p>
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		<title>By: flip</title>
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		<dc:creator>flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was cool with illegal downloads until i got involved with producing a music album and understood how difficult it was to create, produce, release, market, produce videos etc and still try to make a profit for the artist and the company, in the current state of affairs. Copying any form of content from the owner and profiteering from it is piracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was cool with illegal downloads until i got involved with producing a music album and understood how difficult it was to create, produce, release, market, produce videos etc and still try to make a profit for the artist and the company, in the current state of affairs. Copying any form of content from the owner and profiteering from it is piracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are absolutely not alone at this. My latest blog have been copied all around the web, and I mean not the usual automatic copying caught by Akismet, I mean manual copy/paste stealing of content.
It is absolutely annoying. Not only that they copied the content with the images, they also copied my del.icio.us button for God's sake!
I really hope that there is/will be a legal way to deal with this.
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely not alone at this. My latest blog have been copied all around the web, and I mean not the usual automatic copying caught by Akismet, I mean manual copy/paste stealing of content.<br />
It is absolutely annoying. Not only that they copied the content with the images, they also copied my del.icio.us button for God&#8217;s sake!<br />
I really hope that there is/will be a legal way to deal with this.<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: .LA Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>.LA Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Welcome to the club!  You talk about being indirectly harmed by Google via AdSense (which I can totally appreciate).  You're not alone.  Google is also harming others indirectly by creating confusion in the Dot-LA domain space by operating its website at http://www.google.la/ for users in the Country of Laos eventhough the Dot-LA ccTLD has been licensed by LA Names Corporation for the City of Los Angeles for more than FOUR YEARS.  Go to http://www.la/about.php.  Google is creating confusion in this domain space for several Dot-LA website operators.  Just go to http://www.minirank.com/tld/la/0 to see a listing of the top-ranked Dot-LA websites that are making a genuine effort to operate their sites in this domain space only to have a Goliath confuse the user with its website.  Welcome to the club...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Welcome to the club!  You talk about being indirectly harmed by Google via AdSense (which I can totally appreciate).  You&#8217;re not alone.  Google is also harming others indirectly by creating confusion in the Dot-LA domain space by operating its website at <a href="http://www.google.la/" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.la/</a> for users in the Country of Laos eventhough the Dot-LA ccTLD has been licensed by LA Names Corporation for the City of Los Angeles for more than FOUR YEARS.  Go to <a href="http://www.la/about.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.la/about.php</a>.  Google is creating confusion in this domain space for several Dot-LA website operators.  Just go to <a href="http://www.minirank.com/tld/la/0" rel="nofollow">http://www.minirank.com/tld/la/0</a> to see a listing of the top-ranked Dot-LA websites that are making a genuine effort to operate their sites in this domain space only to have a Goliath confuse the user with its website.  Welcome to the club&#8230;</p>
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