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		<title>By: keesha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-2981989</link>
		<dc:creator>keesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heey everyone on here waz upp me nothin well pce out ppl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heey everyone on here waz upp me nothin well pce out ppl</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-2600939</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For artist lyrics and more, check out the&lt;a&gt; Dave Mason Fan Club&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Musician&#8217;s Online Toolbox - iLike vs. Facebook &#124; Inside the Mind of Sators</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-2057542</link>
		<dc:creator>Musician&#8217;s Online Toolbox - iLike vs. Facebook &#124; Inside the Mind of Sators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In this entry we&#8217;ll talk about iLike vs. Facebook. Actually, Erick Schonfeld at TechCrunchhas done a fantastic job summarizing iLike and Facebook in his entry from November, 2007 entitled iLike vs. Facebook: The Battle For The Music Artist. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In this entry we&#8217;ll talk about iLike vs. Facebook. Actually, Erick Schonfeld at TechCrunchhas done a fantastic job summarizing iLike and Facebook in his entry from November, 2007 entitled iLike vs. Facebook: The Battle For The Music Artist. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Exclamation</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1836476</link>
		<dc:creator>Exclamation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;MySpace Major Label Music Artists Seeing Solid Traction on Facebook; Indies - Not So Much...&lt;/strong&gt;


 
Facebook&#8217;s Pages feature, which debuted only five weeks ago, is beginning to gain significant traction on&#160; MySpace&#8217;s four-year-old music platform,&#160; with some interesting results. 
Based on a sample of MySpace artist Top Tens in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>MySpace Major Label Music Artists Seeing Solid Traction on Facebook; Indies &#8211; Not So Much&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Facebook&#8217;s Pages feature, which debuted only five weeks ago, is beginning to gain significant traction on&nbsp; MySpace&#8217;s four-year-old music platform,&nbsp; with some interesting results.<br />
Based on a sample of MySpace artist Top Tens in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1750913</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I have read, iLike&#039;s new Universal Artist Dashboard and impending launch into open social apparently does NOT give a band an independent presence across all social platforms.  What it does is give them a presence in iLike.  iLike will give themselves a presence into all of these other platforms.  Therefore, an artist who uses iLike as a solution to get access in all of these networks is limited by the success or failure of iLike to penetrate all of these networks for them - something they have succeeded at with Facebook so far.  I wonder how MySpace and others will react to iLike&#039;s attempted insertion of themselves between the artists and fans - something that many of these social networks derive great value and ATTENTION (read: money) from.  I also wonder how most artists will feel about uploading their content and driving their fans to a company that is partially owned by Ticketmaster (TM is an owner of iLike).  Ticketmaster, to many artists, is the last company in the world they will want to have accessing/intercepting their relationships with fans to try and gouge them with $10 surcharges, etc (and believe me, Ticketmaster did not invest in iLike without an expectation of return on that investment).  My guess is that iLike will be yet another place where some artists will go to get noticed, but the idea that savvy artists (excluding the desperate major labels) will cast their lot entirely with iLike&#039;s &quot;Universal&quot; service seems a bit far-fetched in a world where the artists need to have independent control over their fan relationships to derive real value.

Ian&#039;s comments and question are also spot on.  Will iLike go the route of allowing other apps to function inside of theirs, or are they just another walled garden trying to  quickly transplant the seedlings from the current gardens whose walls are finally coming down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I have read, iLike&#8217;s new Universal Artist Dashboard and impending launch into open social apparently does NOT give a band an independent presence across all social platforms.  What it does is give them a presence in iLike.  iLike will give themselves a presence into all of these other platforms.  Therefore, an artist who uses iLike as a solution to get access in all of these networks is limited by the success or failure of iLike to penetrate all of these networks for them &#8211; something they have succeeded at with Facebook so far.  I wonder how MySpace and others will react to iLike&#8217;s attempted insertion of themselves between the artists and fans &#8211; something that many of these social networks derive great value and ATTENTION (read: money) from.  I also wonder how most artists will feel about uploading their content and driving their fans to a company that is partially owned by Ticketmaster (TM is an owner of iLike).  Ticketmaster, to many artists, is the last company in the world they will want to have accessing/intercepting their relationships with fans to try and gouge them with $10 surcharges, etc (and believe me, Ticketmaster did not invest in iLike without an expectation of return on that investment).  My guess is that iLike will be yet another place where some artists will go to get noticed, but the idea that savvy artists (excluding the desperate major labels) will cast their lot entirely with iLike&#8217;s &#8220;Universal&#8221; service seems a bit far-fetched in a world where the artists need to have independent control over their fan relationships to derive real value.</p>
<p>Ian&#8217;s comments and question are also spot on.  Will iLike go the route of allowing other apps to function inside of theirs, or are they just another walled garden trying to  quickly transplant the seedlings from the current gardens whose walls are finally coming down?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1738664</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck iLike, go last.fm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck iLike, go last.fm!</p>
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		<title>By: my music blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1738567</link>
		<dc:creator>my music blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what i like more is ilike.com. =) Well... both offers great and updated music bits and pieces so I think the challenge will be on our hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i like more is ilike.com. =) Well&#8230; both offers great and updated music bits and pieces so I think the challenge will be on our hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Hogarth</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1737114</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Hogarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ali (12)

This is an fascinating development in the online music space. iLike has now morphed from an app on Facebook&#039;s platform, to a fully-fledged platform across social networks. With the Universal Artist Dashboard, you&#039;re allowing artists to manage their presence across social networks and desktop media players. This transforms the interface between artists and their fans, the way they communicate with each other. We see this as a landmark shifting of the boundaries between app and platform, and a significant increase in the value iLike offers musicians and fans. 

Our question to you (as a company focusing on live music with a competitive app in the works): Will you allow the artists to choose the apps they use on their Universal Artist Dashboard? If iLike becomes the single way that artists manage their presence on the internet, will this Dashboard be restricted to iLike apps? Or will you open up your platform to 3rd party apps as Facebook has done, allowing artists to select the apps that best suit their needs? Will there a mechanism that allows the best apps to emerge virally, for example by showing which have been explicitly added by artists.

Obviously from our perspective, openness is better. Songkick focuses exclusively on live music: getting the most comprehensive listings, displaying all available ticket options. Facebook allowed app developers to focus on their core competencies while taking advantage of the incredible infrastructure Facebook built. Will you do the same? We strongly believe that by allowing competition to flourish, the best solutions rise to the top.

We would then see the best music recommendation widget, the best music distribution widget, the best concert widget, and a truly ground-breaking platform for music.

Ian Hogarth 
CEO Songkick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ali (12)</p>
<p>This is an fascinating development in the online music space. iLike has now morphed from an app on Facebook&#8217;s platform, to a fully-fledged platform across social networks. With the Universal Artist Dashboard, you&#8217;re allowing artists to manage their presence across social networks and desktop media players. This transforms the interface between artists and their fans, the way they communicate with each other. We see this as a landmark shifting of the boundaries between app and platform, and a significant increase in the value iLike offers musicians and fans. </p>
<p>Our question to you (as a company focusing on live music with a competitive app in the works): Will you allow the artists to choose the apps they use on their Universal Artist Dashboard? If iLike becomes the single way that artists manage their presence on the internet, will this Dashboard be restricted to iLike apps? Or will you open up your platform to 3rd party apps as Facebook has done, allowing artists to select the apps that best suit their needs? Will there a mechanism that allows the best apps to emerge virally, for example by showing which have been explicitly added by artists.</p>
<p>Obviously from our perspective, openness is better. Songkick focuses exclusively on live music: getting the most comprehensive listings, displaying all available ticket options. Facebook allowed app developers to focus on their core competencies while taking advantage of the incredible infrastructure Facebook built. Will you do the same? We strongly believe that by allowing competition to flourish, the best solutions rise to the top.</p>
<p>We would then see the best music recommendation widget, the best music distribution widget, the best concert widget, and a truly ground-breaking platform for music.</p>
<p>Ian Hogarth<br />
CEO Songkick</p>
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		<title>By: dhkwon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1736891</link>
		<dc:creator>dhkwon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if we have an aggregator for musicians&#039; pages in any sites like MySpace, YouTube, Bebo, iLike, Facebook, whatever? Isn&#039;t it cool to search music and continuously listen to (and even manage) it? 

Check out www.qbox.com. This site will be an disruptive innovation in the music industry, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if we have an aggregator for musicians&#8217; pages in any sites like MySpace, YouTube, Bebo, iLike, Facebook, whatever? Isn&#8217;t it cool to search music and continuously listen to (and even manage) it? </p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://www.qbox.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.qbox.com'>http://www.qbox.com</a>. This site will be an disruptive innovation in the music industry, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonTroll</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1736542</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonTroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As previously pointed out by Michael in a different post, Facebook has no qualms about cannibalizing on popular facebook apps. I wonder if this gives developers pause on whether they should focus their attention on facebook apps or go with Open Social.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As previously pointed out by Michael in a different post, Facebook has no qualms about cannibalizing on popular facebook apps. I wonder if this gives developers pause on whether they should focus their attention on facebook apps or go with Open Social.</p>
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		<title>By: it-PAT.NET::INSPIRATION BEYOND SUCCESS - Blog &#187; Social Applications with Facebook</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1736334</link>
		<dc:creator>it-PAT.NET::INSPIRATION BEYOND SUCCESS - Blog &#187; Social Applications with Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch – iLike vs. Facebook: The Battle For The Music Artist [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TechCrunch – iLike vs. Facebook: The Battle For The Music Artist [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WebCurrents</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1736112</link>
		<dc:creator>WebCurrents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody is  competing with everyone at everywhere.

WebCurrents
:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody is  competing with everyone at everywhere.</p>
<p>WebCurrents<br />
 <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Warila</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1736103</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Warila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what an artists hears:
- 2006 - invest time in MySpace 
- 2007 - invest time in iLike
- 2007.5 - invest time in FaceBook
- 2007.6 - invest time in iMeeM
- 2007.7 - invest time in this and that and this and that...
- Give away your music
- Chase fake friends...
- Make pennies from advertising, etc, etc, etc.
- I just want to make music - dude!

Jeff Huber from Google said &quot;The web is the platform...&quot; and I take this advice to heart when I advise artists.  I think some of these new propositions for music are great, but my advice is holding at this: make your own blog and use these other sites to drive traffic to your own blogsite / website.  

For example: I had this artist ditch MySpace (http://www.myspace.com/jediahband - click to see what we did) and set up a SquareSpace account (simple simple stuff) instead.  

I asked the band to stop fake-friending and go back to making music, had the manager go out and find sponsors, and I am pushing FREE music using inexpensive Google banners.

Artists, you will be able to go direct to consumer without expending lots of time on every new &quot;platform&quot; that pops up (the flavour of the month).  Pick and choose the widgets you need; have your manager learn to use AdSense and Amazon Affiliate; and make him/her go out and find local sponsors.  

If your manager is only capable of booking your shows, then find someone that reads TechCrunch.  

I think building a network of &quot;friends&quot; within a branded ecosystem is overrated.  If you make great music, real friends will find your own site and you will be the beneficiary of the traffic.  

Once again, some of these new tools are great, but think wisely about how you use them and your time.  Setting up a quick profile and using these sites to drive traffic to your own blog/site is my 2007.11 recommendation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what an artists hears:<br />
- 2006 &#8211; invest time in MySpace<br />
- 2007 &#8211; invest time in iLike<br />
- 2007.5 &#8211; invest time in FaceBook<br />
- 2007.6 &#8211; invest time in iMeeM<br />
- 2007.7 &#8211; invest time in this and that and this and that&#8230;<br />
- Give away your music<br />
- Chase fake friends&#8230;<br />
- Make pennies from advertising, etc, etc, etc.<br />
- I just want to make music &#8211; dude!</p>
<p>Jeff Huber from Google said &#8220;The web is the platform&#8230;&#8221; and I take this advice to heart when I advise artists.  I think some of these new propositions for music are great, but my advice is holding at this: make your own blog and use these other sites to drive traffic to your own blogsite / website.  </p>
<p>For example: I had this artist ditch MySpace (<a href="http://www.myspace.com/jediahband" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.myspace.com/jediahband'>http://www.mysp....com/jediahband</a> &#8211; click to see what we did) and set up a SquareSpace account (simple simple stuff) instead.  </p>
<p>I asked the band to stop fake-friending and go back to making music, had the manager go out and find sponsors, and I am pushing FREE music using inexpensive Google banners.</p>
<p>Artists, you will be able to go direct to consumer without expending lots of time on every new &#8220;platform&#8221; that pops up (the flavour of the month).  Pick and choose the widgets you need; have your manager learn to use AdSense and Amazon Affiliate; and make him/her go out and find local sponsors.  </p>
<p>If your manager is only capable of booking your shows, then find someone that reads TechCrunch.  </p>
<p>I think building a network of &#8220;friends&#8221; within a branded ecosystem is overrated.  If you make great music, real friends will find your own site and you will be the beneficiary of the traffic.  </p>
<p>Once again, some of these new tools are great, but think wisely about how you use them and your time.  Setting up a quick profile and using these sites to drive traffic to your own blog/site is my 2007.11 recommendation.</p>
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		<title>By: David Litsky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735964</link>
		<dc:creator>David Litsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bryan (11)
For monetization, amiestreet will be the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bryan (11)<br />
For monetization, amiestreet will be the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Merket</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735949</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Merket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple iPhone:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=13894160155</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple iPhone:<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=13894160155" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=13894160155'>http://www.face...?id=13894160155</a></p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735579</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you go with the iLike page as your main Facebook page (and take advantage of the nearly 10 million members who use the iLike app), or do you go with your own advertiser page on Facebook? Case in point: the new Facebook page for 50 Cent (shown left) had only three fans when it first went up just after midnight, compared to 1.2 million fans on his iLike page on Facebook:


RADIO 2 UK WAS SAYING THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE 5K FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK PAGE BEFORE IT GOES A BIT RUBBISH AND STOPS WORKING. SO BACK TO THE DISCUSSION IF THIS IS THE CASE THEN ILIKE PAGE PAGE HAS TOO BE THE LEAD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you go with the iLike page as your main Facebook page (and take advantage of the nearly 10 million members who use the iLike app), or do you go with your own advertiser page on Facebook? Case in point: the new Facebook page for 50 Cent (shown left) had only three fans when it first went up just after midnight, compared to 1.2 million fans on his iLike page on Facebook:</p>
<p>RADIO 2 UK WAS SAYING THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE 5K FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK PAGE BEFORE IT GOES A BIT RUBBISH AND STOPS WORKING. SO BACK TO THE DISCUSSION IF THIS IS THE CASE THEN ILIKE PAGE PAGE HAS TOO BE THE LEAD?</p>
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		<title>By: exinco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735475</link>
		<dc:creator>exinco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is two impact #1 bad result and #2 good result. sometimes good for company and bad for artist and vice versa.
also who is making money here??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is two impact #1 bad result and #2 good result. sometimes good for company and bad for artist and vice versa.<br />
also who is making money here??</p>
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		<title>By: LinkBuildersAssociationavrillavigne</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735413</link>
		<dc:creator>LinkBuildersAssociationavrillavigne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you missed one

http://apps.facebook.com/avrillavigne/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you missed one</p>
<p><a href="http://apps.facebook.com/avrillavigne/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://apps.facebook.com/avrillavigne/'>http://apps.fac...m/avrillavigne/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Robson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735316</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Robson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I think this is fascinating.  The boundaries between Widget and Platform are becoming hugely blurred by the iLike application.  Platforms will soon be developing themselve to integrate with the best widgets rather than the other way around.  It is also gratifying to see that it is the most useful tool which rises to the top and potentially dictates the direction of its carriers.  Fantastic, democratic development of the web before our very eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I think this is fascinating.  The boundaries between Widget and Platform are becoming hugely blurred by the iLike application.  Platforms will soon be developing themselve to integrate with the best widgets rather than the other way around.  It is also gratifying to see that it is the most useful tool which rises to the top and potentially dictates the direction of its carriers.  Fantastic, democratic development of the web before our very eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rahen Mckinny</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735226</link>
		<dc:creator>Rahen Mckinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it can be true, Facebook will not try to do, but end of day, what matters to facebook is the engagement with their businesses, if they think that one of their developer’s widget is stealing their show</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it can be true, Facebook will not try to do, but end of day, what matters to facebook is the engagement with their businesses, if they think that one of their developer’s widget is stealing their show</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735221</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh goody, another facebook post on techcrunch and another example of how &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techmilk.com/facebook-is-jumping-the-shark.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;facebook is jumping the shark&lt;/a&gt;....

Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh goody, another facebook post on techcrunch and another example of how <a href="http://www.techmilk.com/facebook-is-jumping-the-shark.html" rel="nofollow">facebook is jumping the shark</a>&#8230;.</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735170</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the vote of confidence, Erick!  iLove the article :)

May I note that the title implying a &quot;Battle&quot; between iLike and Facebook might be a tad over-stated.  After all, we&#039;ve been working closely with the fine folks at Facebook not only to develop the new apps for the new Pages, but also to auto-create the new Pages in question.  

We couldn&#039;t be happier with the new opportunities this opens for us.  The bigger &quot;battle&quot; for us is the battle to keep up with the traffic :)

Ali Partovi, CEO, iLike inc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the vote of confidence, Erick!  iLove the article <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>May I note that the title implying a &#8220;Battle&#8221; between iLike and Facebook might be a tad over-stated.  After all, we&#8217;ve been working closely with the fine folks at Facebook not only to develop the new apps for the new Pages, but also to auto-create the new Pages in question.  </p>
<p>We couldn&#8217;t be happier with the new opportunities this opens for us.  The bigger &#8220;battle&#8221; for us is the battle to keep up with the traffic <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ali Partovi, CEO, iLike inc</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735160</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize that artists need to essentially become brands in the future to effectively monetize off their work.  Still, can it not be called &quot;ads&quot;, per se?  Is there not a way to dress it up in cuter, friendlier words?  I wonder how much the majority of music fans would embrace the title &quot;Mos Def Brand Ambassador&quot;, rather than &quot;Mos Def Fan&quot;.

Let&#039;s not forget, that artists need to eat.

I think most of this conversation presented here is moot; the next generation of music &quot;social network&quot; that wins will balance the best of both media playback capability and most importantly, monetization.  That&#039;s why i think companies like imeem are so promising.  Aritsts, in theory, have a direct incentive to invest time and effort into their imeem profiles, as eyeballs directly translates into monetization.  

But for the sake of argument: facebook has all the tools, infrastructure and engineers to create this killer platform.  However, what they don&#039;t have is, a focused group of  music lovers and artists that would account for the micro contextual details of fans, and especially artists.  So, in this context, i like ilike&#039;s odds of winning out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that artists need to essentially become brands in the future to effectively monetize off their work.  Still, can it not be called &#8220;ads&#8221;, per se?  Is there not a way to dress it up in cuter, friendlier words?  I wonder how much the majority of music fans would embrace the title &#8220;Mos Def Brand Ambassador&#8221;, rather than &#8220;Mos Def Fan&#8221;.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget, that artists need to eat.</p>
<p>I think most of this conversation presented here is moot; the next generation of music &#8220;social network&#8221; that wins will balance the best of both media playback capability and most importantly, monetization.  That&#8217;s why i think companies like imeem are so promising.  Aritsts, in theory, have a direct incentive to invest time and effort into their imeem profiles, as eyeballs directly translates into monetization.  </p>
<p>But for the sake of argument: facebook has all the tools, infrastructure and engineers to create this killer platform.  However, what they don&#8217;t have is, a focused group of  music lovers and artists that would account for the micro contextual details of fans, and especially artists.  So, in this context, i like ilike&#8217;s odds of winning out.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Benayoun</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735143</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Benayoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true, the iLike experience seems better, they have their momentum and will use openSocial to spread amongst the other social networks.
What really intrigue me is the fact they are just hosts in these containers, 

what happen if Facebook decide that iLike just breached one of their rules and shut it out of Facebook?

Will the Facebook revolt? 

What if Facebook hijack all of the iLike page on Facebook and insert Facebook bands pages?

It may sounds creepy and something Facebook will not try to do, but end of day, what matters to facebook is the engagement with their businesses, if they think that one of their developer&#039;s widget is stealing their show, they will do everything/anything to stop them and take the lead.

www.octabox.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, the iLike experience seems better, they have their momentum and will use openSocial to spread amongst the other social networks.<br />
What really intrigue me is the fact they are just hosts in these containers, </p>
<p>what happen if Facebook decide that iLike just breached one of their rules and shut it out of Facebook?</p>
<p>Will the Facebook revolt? </p>
<p>What if Facebook hijack all of the iLike page on Facebook and insert Facebook bands pages?</p>
<p>It may sounds creepy and something Facebook will not try to do, but end of day, what matters to facebook is the engagement with their businesses, if they think that one of their developer&#8217;s widget is stealing their show, they will do everything/anything to stop them and take the lead.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.octabox.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.octabox.com'>http://www.octabox.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: www.carversation.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/06/ilike-vs-facebook-the-battle-for-the-music-artist/comment-page-1/#comment-1735092</link>
		<dc:creator>www.carversation.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Goood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Goood</p>
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