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	<title>Comments on: Asian Blog Ad Network Leaves Some Bloggers Unhappy</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Money Maker Guy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nuffnang&#8230; Minus SGD$1 Or Minimum SGD$50 Cash-Out?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-2399039</link>
		<dc:creator>The Money Maker Guy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nuffnang&#8230; Minus SGD$1 Or Minimum SGD$50 Cash-Out?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post about Nuffnang, is Nuffnang a scam? It is very-very feeling when I read the comment by Lee at www.techcrunch.com:  Comment no.87 by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post about Nuffnang, is Nuffnang a scam? It is very-very feeling when I read the comment by Lee at <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com</a>:  Comment no.87 by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Damage Control. &#124; Malaysian Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-2223412</link>
		<dc:creator>Damage Control. &#124; Malaysian Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Damage Control.  Nov.05, 2007 in Old Stuffs  Subcribers of Techcrunch, would have read about the bad publicity that Nuffnang is getting from the recent post, Asian Blog Ad Network Leaves Some Bloggers Unhappy.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Damage Control.  Nov.05, 2007 in Old Stuffs  Subcribers of Techcrunch, would have read about the bad publicity that Nuffnang is getting from the recent post, Asian Blog Ad Network Leaves Some Bloggers Unhappy.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Louiss Lim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louiss Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another suck network in Malaysia. I have leave them out as my income source, not even recommended.</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ooi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1765738</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, I hate to say it, but I don't understand a word you are saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, I hate to say it, but I don&#8217;t understand a word you are saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Planet Malaysia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1764426</link>
		<dc:creator>Planet Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a stupid charges.</description>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1763513</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Balance and Reason of it all

The whole idea of my existence is about a certain balance. What kind of balance has the media achieved? What kind of balance am I looking for? What kind of balance is a reasonable man looking for?

The incumbent in his pretentious community dot comer demands that we patiently wait for advertisements, theoretically, we know that they do not have sufficient advertisers. Indeed if we do not have enough visitors to our blog, then why do they allow us to sign up for their service knowing we do not have enough? Is hanging a blue logo for them a reasonable trade off?

The incumbent t in his pretentious community dot comer demands understanding for their current predicament which is high cost of operational materials such as 20cent envelopes and ink and hence the increase of $1 when we cash out. Is that reasonable? If we do not reach $50 or $100 and qualify for cash out, do they not have a homogeneous operation cost? A moral yardstick of decision destroyed the confidence of the blogging public. Nuffnang charges you $1 because of bank charging them $0.50 per cheque and tell you the other $0.50 is for operation cost. How far can Nuffnang go in destroying the trust of the already skeptical consumer?

If indeed some (eg. Mister Larry Lim) said it is not fair for Nuffnang to absorb any charges, are not 50cent of the operational cost also not call absorbing but part of a term call overhead which is part of an equation of a business? Are they so fearful that if they do not take this opportunity to pass on $0.50 of their operational cost to every cheque issued they might not have a chance to do so? If indeed a cost is requiring processing the delivery of a cheque to a customer, is the figure $0.50 a double-dealing? Have they wanted $0.50 from each customer so much that they fail to understand the consequence of waking up a sleeping tiger? Something is very wrong with the kind of treacherous and perfidious values Nuffnang is operating.

I cannot explain it all other than call it pretentious dot commer! How far can we not believe what they did was not right if they cannot justify what they decided to charge you? We want an honest community dot commer yet they lock us up with a blue logo when we sign up and now even we made enough to cash out, our earnings are exploited. How are we to trust them if they do not have trustworthiness to start with? How fair is it to charge $0.50 without justifying so and organize events such as show screening for few hundred bloggers? Ladies and gentleman, it is not balanced, it is not reasonable.

Now the community who are still hanging on to the blue logo is throttling breathlessly. The bloggers are not only not getting advertisements; they are to make believe a deception of paying for an operational cost. Who cares for the tail end bloggers if the tail end bloggers do not care for themselves? They are the cause of their own action. Nobody told them to sign up with Nuffnang? Let us not care for them. Indeed, let it not be remembered the tail end blog will never make money. Let’s concentrate on the celebrity blogs which can make us the money. Ladies and gentleman, Nuffnang has become too hard not to be brittle.

With their refusal to counter public’s concern to allegations, now a statistical game has began, a game of who will leave Nuffnang, the cost of implementing $0.50 against the number of bloggers left, how it affect their earnings from celebrity bloggers, Is this not a fair assumption? In a true bona fide company, the owners will obligate and deliver. However in Nuffnang they promise and neglect like serving you a ten-course dinner with hawker food! That is the essence of a pretentious dot commer.

The Balance and Reason of it all

The whole idea of my existence is about a certain balance. What kind of balance has the media achieved? What kind of balance am I looking for? What kind of balance is a reasonable man looking for?

The incumbent in his pretentious community dot comer demands that we patiently wait for advertisements, theoretically, we know that they do not have sufficient advertisers. Indeed if we do not have enough visitors to our blog, then why do they allow us to sign up for their service knowing we do not have enough? Is hanging a blue logo for them a reasonable trade off?

The incumbent t in his pretentious community dot comer demands understanding for their current predicament which is high cost of operational materials such as 20cent envelopes and ink and hence the increase of $1 when we cash out. Is that reasonable? If we do not reach $50 or $100 and qualify for cash out, do they not have a homogeneous operation cost? A moral yardstick of decision destroyed the confidence of the blogging public. Nuffnang charges you $1 because of bank charging them $0.50 per cheque and tell you the other $0.50 is for operation cost. How far can Nuffnang go in destroying the trust of the already skeptical consumer?

If indeed some (eg. Mister Larry Lim) said it is not fair for Nuffnang to absorb any charges, are not 50cent of the operational cost also not call absorbing but part of a term call overhead which is part of an equation of a business? Are they so fearful that if they do not take this opportunity to pass on $0.50 of their operational cost to every cheque issued they might not have a chance to do so? If indeed a cost is requiring processing the delivery of a cheque to a customer, is the figure $0.50 a double-dealing? Have they wanted $0.50 from each customer so much that they fail to understand the consequence of waking up a sleeping tiger? Something is very wrong with the kind of treacherous and perfidious values Nuffnang is operating.

I cannot explain it all other than call it pretentious dot commer! How far can we not believe what they did was not right if they cannot justify what they decided to charge you? We want an honest community dot commer yet they lock us up with a blue logo when we sign up and now even we made enough to cash out, our earnings are exploited. How are we to trust them if they do not trustworthiness to start with? How fair is it to charge $0.50 without justifying so and organize events such as show screening for few hundred bloggers? Ladies and gentleman, it is not balanced, it is not reasonable.

Now the community who are still hanging on to the blue logo is throttling breathlessly. The bloggers are not only not getting advertisements; they are to make believe a deception of paying for an operational cost. Who cares for the tail end bloggers if the tail end bloggers do not care for themselves? They are the cause of their own action. Nobody told them to sign up with Nuffnang? Let us not care for them. Indeed, let it not be remembered the tail end blog will never make money. Let’s concentrate on the celebrity blogs which can make us the money. Ladies and gentleman, Nuffnang has become too hard not to be brittle.

With their refusal to counter public’s concern to allegations, now a statistical game has began, a game of the have not, who will leave Nuffnang, the cost of implementing $0.50 against the number of bloggers left, how it affect their earnings from celebrity bloggers, Is this not a fair assumption? In a true bona fide company, the owners will obligate and deliver. However in Nuffnang they promise and neglect like serving you a ten-course dinner with hawker food! That is the essence of a pretentious dot commer.

The unbridled greed of the owners had become the obsession of a company augmenting its wealth like an addict! No considerations, no regards and no hoopla for tail end bloggers. The populace that has served Nuffnang well in spreading the name from nothing had given Nuffnang the benefit of all doubts from beginning. One life cycle of that benefit is almost over. The first group of wounded are now slowly is coming to their sense. Will they affect the operation of Nuffnang? My answer is no, because operation of Nuffnang was never dependent on the lower tail end of the community once their name is spread and has covered the internet. They are now amassing fortunes from celebrity blogs and blogs which yield high traffic. The intent of the tail end blogs served. If anybody thinks their self imposed mute on the allegations are doing them harm, think again. Those who are not earning will leave; yes indeed they do not need you to hang their blue logo anymore. Those that are earning well (celebrity bloggers and high traffic blogs) will not leave because Nuffnang has allow them to make money. Those who leave will leave, those who won’t leave, would not leave. They had made their calculations, now you know where the 2 owners of Nuffnang are considering being intelligent. They have made their calculations and decided not to take part in countering any allegations because they understood the new compact of their next move! Ladies and gentleman, their silence is loud and clear.

The Fifteenth quintessential assertion for your representative: Given the current circumstances of Nuffnang’s relentless, do you seriously believe that hanging on to that blue logo will make you money one day? Do you believe they have not betray your trust for coming up with a reason to make you sign up in the first place but refuse to even justify that reason no The unbridled greed of the owners had become the obsession of a company augmenting its wealth like an addict! No considerations, no regards and no hoopla for tail end bloggers. The populace that has served Nuffnang well in spreading the name from nothing had given Nuffnang the benefit of all doubts from beginning. One life cycle of that benefit is almost over. The first group of wounded are now slowly is coming to their sense. Will they affect the operation of Nuffnang? My answer is no, because operation of Nuffnang was never dependent on the lower tail end of the community once their name is spread and has covered the internet. They are now amassing fortunes from celebrity blogs and blogs which yield high traffic. The intent of the tail end blogs served. They are expired in the eyes of Nuffnang. Read that again - You Are Expired In The Eyes of Nuffnang! If anybody thinks Nuffnang's self impose mute on the allegations are doing them harm, think again. Those who are not earning will leave; yes indeed they do not need you to hang their blue logo anymore. Those that are earning well (celebrity bloggers and high traffic blogs) will not leave because Nuffnang has allow them to make money. Those who leave will leave, those who won’t leave, would not leave. They had made their calculations, now you know where the 2 owners of Nuffnang are considering being intelligent. They have made their calculations and decided not to take part in countering any allegations because they understood the new compact of their next move! Ladies and gentleman, their silence is loud and clear.

The Fifteenth quintessential assertion for your representative: Given the current circumstances of Nuffnang’s relentless, do you seriously believe that hanging on to that blue logo will make you money one day? Do you believe they have not betray your trust for coming up with a reason to make you sign up in the first place but refuse to even justify that reason now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Balance and Reason of it all</p>
<p>The whole idea of my existence is about a certain balance. What kind of balance has the media achieved? What kind of balance am I looking for? What kind of balance is a reasonable man looking for?</p>
<p>The incumbent in his pretentious community dot comer demands that we patiently wait for advertisements, theoretically, we know that they do not have sufficient advertisers. Indeed if we do not have enough visitors to our blog, then why do they allow us to sign up for their service knowing we do not have enough? Is hanging a blue logo for them a reasonable trade off?</p>
<p>The incumbent t in his pretentious community dot comer demands understanding for their current predicament which is high cost of operational materials such as 20cent envelopes and ink and hence the increase of $1 when we cash out. Is that reasonable? If we do not reach $50 or $100 and qualify for cash out, do they not have a homogeneous operation cost? A moral yardstick of decision destroyed the confidence of the blogging public. Nuffnang charges you $1 because of bank charging them $0.50 per cheque and tell you the other $0.50 is for operation cost. How far can Nuffnang go in destroying the trust of the already skeptical consumer?</p>
<p>If indeed some (eg. Mister Larry Lim) said it is not fair for Nuffnang to absorb any charges, are not 50cent of the operational cost also not call absorbing but part of a term call overhead which is part of an equation of a business? Are they so fearful that if they do not take this opportunity to pass on $0.50 of their operational cost to every cheque issued they might not have a chance to do so? If indeed a cost is requiring processing the delivery of a cheque to a customer, is the figure $0.50 a double-dealing? Have they wanted $0.50 from each customer so much that they fail to understand the consequence of waking up a sleeping tiger? Something is very wrong with the kind of treacherous and perfidious values Nuffnang is operating.</p>
<p>I cannot explain it all other than call it pretentious dot commer! How far can we not believe what they did was not right if they cannot justify what they decided to charge you? We want an honest community dot commer yet they lock us up with a blue logo when we sign up and now even we made enough to cash out, our earnings are exploited. How are we to trust them if they do not have trustworthiness to start with? How fair is it to charge $0.50 without justifying so and organize events such as show screening for few hundred bloggers? Ladies and gentleman, it is not balanced, it is not reasonable.</p>
<p>Now the community who are still hanging on to the blue logo is throttling breathlessly. The bloggers are not only not getting advertisements; they are to make believe a deception of paying for an operational cost. Who cares for the tail end bloggers if the tail end bloggers do not care for themselves? They are the cause of their own action. Nobody told them to sign up with Nuffnang? Let us not care for them. Indeed, let it not be remembered the tail end blog will never make money. Let’s concentrate on the celebrity blogs which can make us the money. Ladies and gentleman, Nuffnang has become too hard not to be brittle.</p>
<p>With their refusal to counter public’s concern to allegations, now a statistical game has began, a game of who will leave Nuffnang, the cost of implementing $0.50 against the number of bloggers left, how it affect their earnings from celebrity bloggers, Is this not a fair assumption? In a true bona fide company, the owners will obligate and deliver. However in Nuffnang they promise and neglect like serving you a ten-course dinner with hawker food! That is the essence of a pretentious dot commer.</p>
<p>The Balance and Reason of it all</p>
<p>The whole idea of my existence is about a certain balance. What kind of balance has the media achieved? What kind of balance am I looking for? What kind of balance is a reasonable man looking for?</p>
<p>The incumbent in his pretentious community dot comer demands that we patiently wait for advertisements, theoretically, we know that they do not have sufficient advertisers. Indeed if we do not have enough visitors to our blog, then why do they allow us to sign up for their service knowing we do not have enough? Is hanging a blue logo for them a reasonable trade off?</p>
<p>The incumbent t in his pretentious community dot comer demands understanding for their current predicament which is high cost of operational materials such as 20cent envelopes and ink and hence the increase of $1 when we cash out. Is that reasonable? If we do not reach $50 or $100 and qualify for cash out, do they not have a homogeneous operation cost? A moral yardstick of decision destroyed the confidence of the blogging public. Nuffnang charges you $1 because of bank charging them $0.50 per cheque and tell you the other $0.50 is for operation cost. How far can Nuffnang go in destroying the trust of the already skeptical consumer?</p>
<p>If indeed some (eg. Mister Larry Lim) said it is not fair for Nuffnang to absorb any charges, are not 50cent of the operational cost also not call absorbing but part of a term call overhead which is part of an equation of a business? Are they so fearful that if they do not take this opportunity to pass on $0.50 of their operational cost to every cheque issued they might not have a chance to do so? If indeed a cost is requiring processing the delivery of a cheque to a customer, is the figure $0.50 a double-dealing? Have they wanted $0.50 from each customer so much that they fail to understand the consequence of waking up a sleeping tiger? Something is very wrong with the kind of treacherous and perfidious values Nuffnang is operating.</p>
<p>I cannot explain it all other than call it pretentious dot commer! How far can we not believe what they did was not right if they cannot justify what they decided to charge you? We want an honest community dot commer yet they lock us up with a blue logo when we sign up and now even we made enough to cash out, our earnings are exploited. How are we to trust them if they do not trustworthiness to start with? How fair is it to charge $0.50 without justifying so and organize events such as show screening for few hundred bloggers? Ladies and gentleman, it is not balanced, it is not reasonable.</p>
<p>Now the community who are still hanging on to the blue logo is throttling breathlessly. The bloggers are not only not getting advertisements; they are to make believe a deception of paying for an operational cost. Who cares for the tail end bloggers if the tail end bloggers do not care for themselves? They are the cause of their own action. Nobody told them to sign up with Nuffnang? Let us not care for them. Indeed, let it not be remembered the tail end blog will never make money. Let’s concentrate on the celebrity blogs which can make us the money. Ladies and gentleman, Nuffnang has become too hard not to be brittle.</p>
<p>With their refusal to counter public’s concern to allegations, now a statistical game has began, a game of the have not, who will leave Nuffnang, the cost of implementing $0.50 against the number of bloggers left, how it affect their earnings from celebrity bloggers, Is this not a fair assumption? In a true bona fide company, the owners will obligate and deliver. However in Nuffnang they promise and neglect like serving you a ten-course dinner with hawker food! That is the essence of a pretentious dot commer.</p>
<p>The unbridled greed of the owners had become the obsession of a company augmenting its wealth like an addict! No considerations, no regards and no hoopla for tail end bloggers. The populace that has served Nuffnang well in spreading the name from nothing had given Nuffnang the benefit of all doubts from beginning. One life cycle of that benefit is almost over. The first group of wounded are now slowly is coming to their sense. Will they affect the operation of Nuffnang? My answer is no, because operation of Nuffnang was never dependent on the lower tail end of the community once their name is spread and has covered the internet. They are now amassing fortunes from celebrity blogs and blogs which yield high traffic. The intent of the tail end blogs served. If anybody thinks their self imposed mute on the allegations are doing them harm, think again. Those who are not earning will leave; yes indeed they do not need you to hang their blue logo anymore. Those that are earning well (celebrity bloggers and high traffic blogs) will not leave because Nuffnang has allow them to make money. Those who leave will leave, those who won’t leave, would not leave. They had made their calculations, now you know where the 2 owners of Nuffnang are considering being intelligent. They have made their calculations and decided not to take part in countering any allegations because they understood the new compact of their next move! Ladies and gentleman, their silence is loud and clear.</p>
<p>The Fifteenth quintessential assertion for your representative: Given the current circumstances of Nuffnang’s relentless, do you seriously believe that hanging on to that blue logo will make you money one day? Do you believe they have not betray your trust for coming up with a reason to make you sign up in the first place but refuse to even justify that reason no The unbridled greed of the owners had become the obsession of a company augmenting its wealth like an addict! No considerations, no regards and no hoopla for tail end bloggers. The populace that has served Nuffnang well in spreading the name from nothing had given Nuffnang the benefit of all doubts from beginning. One life cycle of that benefit is almost over. The first group of wounded are now slowly is coming to their sense. Will they affect the operation of Nuffnang? My answer is no, because operation of Nuffnang was never dependent on the lower tail end of the community once their name is spread and has covered the internet. They are now amassing fortunes from celebrity blogs and blogs which yield high traffic. The intent of the tail end blogs served. They are expired in the eyes of Nuffnang. Read that again - You Are Expired In The Eyes of Nuffnang! If anybody thinks Nuffnang&#8217;s self impose mute on the allegations are doing them harm, think again. Those who are not earning will leave; yes indeed they do not need you to hang their blue logo anymore. Those that are earning well (celebrity bloggers and high traffic blogs) will not leave because Nuffnang has allow them to make money. Those who leave will leave, those who won’t leave, would not leave. They had made their calculations, now you know where the 2 owners of Nuffnang are considering being intelligent. They have made their calculations and decided not to take part in countering any allegations because they understood the new compact of their next move! Ladies and gentleman, their silence is loud and clear.</p>
<p>The Fifteenth quintessential assertion for your representative: Given the current circumstances of Nuffnang’s relentless, do you seriously believe that hanging on to that blue logo will make you money one day? Do you believe they have not betray your trust for coming up with a reason to make you sign up in the first place but refuse to even justify that reason now?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1757967</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Epitaph of the old Nuffnang

I believe I have recently touched some raw nerves and must in the law of moderation cease for a short time those painful experiences on the incumbent, only for a short time, and speak on other topics. It is wise to be balanced in all approaches to life, not for the sake of balance but for the duration in this long flight which we call a better exposure.

I have sought to understand Nuffnang’s imperatives from all different lengths of view: from the shortest to the longest.

However, I am more often left more unconvinced than when I start the thinking process. How can the many things in Nuffnang not be questioned and accept the reasons of them? I will leave it to the community to decide what is acceptable and what is not. The payout in allowing this process is the maturity of the community, which is a desirable goal.

Mister Timothy Tiah once said “we need the long tail of bloggers to bring blog advertising to a whole new level” and the incumbent now must learn to walk his talk too! The incumbent must learn to walk and walk it well reasonably!

Many months has passed since the launch of Nuffnang. Let us not be afraid to question the foundation of Nuffnang. Is Nuffang built on a mountain of scam? Is the Nuffnang we supported built on crashing demands of bloggers? Where do they go from here? I was pro-Nuffnang. I was pro-nuffnang. I believe bloggers will fuse new tenacity into our spirit of community. However is not the current group of bloggers very loyal? IS not the community trying to support Nuffnang? Are they not trying to tell bloggers they can give advertisements for 20 visits? Are they compensating bloggers for any words promised excessively without regard to community consequences? Are they now not amending their TOS without due consideration to the opinions of bloggers and the community? The plethora of excuses for their failure to deliver promises comes with it myriad reasons against it, and the whole community to moderate it. Let us carefully consider the many problems found within the company. There will be trade offs. This is a gigantic balance at play here; missing the important component on the right side of the scale will mean miseries for thousands of people. I do not advocate discussion ad infinitum; I advocate discussion in reasonableness and allowing periodic assessments of its effects.

No one makes mistakes like the way a decision maker must. However to presume mistakes in business as dirty linens that need the hiding is unnecessary and ill-conceived.

A clever seller will understand buyers need to know and feel that they are getting bargain once in a while, at least. A happy buyer will be frequent patron that is good business practice. Gifts that are perceived to have it doubled back are not clever. It is in fact foolish! A clever seller must possess the ability to sell something not only satisfies the customers but also the friends of customers! How they yoke their bloggers will be consistent to how the bloggers speak of them. The manner with which they treat us will be the manner with which we will respond to them when they need us.

In many ways, the expectation is higher; Nuffnang must endear while selling their product. The only way to endear and sell is not to be seen betraying the whole community! This, Nuffnang has not met the standard. They have not been honest in their shortcomings. They have not abided by the critical promises made. They did not provide advertisements to blogs with 20 visits while telling the entire community they had innovated a system for it. They have not given the common a satisfactory explanation of non delivery of the fruits to their method of attracting bloggers to sign up with them. Everyone knows of what they did. They just want thm to come out and say sorry, we cannot deliver. It is not fair to practice non-delivery of promise while at the same time accumulating wealth with celebrity bloggers while the rest of the community are still holding on to the blue logo, providing free advertisement for the company.

Do you, Nuffnang, now promise the same faith?

I will leave it to the incumbent to respond in their time. These are not question from me merely because I asked it! I merely crystallized the vague and existing distrust to the promises of Nuffnang. It I had crystallized it and become criminal, then they Nuffnang had become the criminal of the community!

In the perpetual transactions between Nuffnang and the community, some have considered it exclusively one sided, many will see it as mutually dependent. The time where Nuffnang held the torch of truth is no longer. The time has come for Nuffnang to treat the hwole body populace as unsatisfied customers.

In the age of internet one true unsatisfied customer is no longer weak; can you imagine a whole host of them? Conversely, if you have done it right, the internet will lap your good name like no others! This is the fact. This is the reality. Any good seller that understands the dynamics of selling something will adjust to it and prosper.

Have a nice day.

http://why-nuffnang-will-fail.blogspot.com/2007/11/epitaph-of-old-nuffnang.html</description>
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<p>I believe I have recently touched some raw nerves and must in the law of moderation cease for a short time those painful experiences on the incumbent, only for a short time, and speak on other topics. It is wise to be balanced in all approaches to life, not for the sake of balance but for the duration in this long flight which we call a better exposure.</p>
<p>I have sought to understand Nuffnang’s imperatives from all different lengths of view: from the shortest to the longest.</p>
<p>However, I am more often left more unconvinced than when I start the thinking process. How can the many things in Nuffnang not be questioned and accept the reasons of them? I will leave it to the community to decide what is acceptable and what is not. The payout in allowing this process is the maturity of the community, which is a desirable goal.</p>
<p>Mister Timothy Tiah once said “we need the long tail of bloggers to bring blog advertising to a whole new level” and the incumbent now must learn to walk his talk too! The incumbent must learn to walk and walk it well reasonably!</p>
<p>Many months has passed since the launch of Nuffnang. Let us not be afraid to question the foundation of Nuffnang. Is Nuffang built on a mountain of scam? Is the Nuffnang we supported built on crashing demands of bloggers? Where do they go from here? I was pro-Nuffnang. I was pro-nuffnang. I believe bloggers will fuse new tenacity into our spirit of community. However is not the current group of bloggers very loyal? IS not the community trying to support Nuffnang? Are they not trying to tell bloggers they can give advertisements for 20 visits? Are they compensating bloggers for any words promised excessively without regard to community consequences? Are they now not amending their TOS without due consideration to the opinions of bloggers and the community? The plethora of excuses for their failure to deliver promises comes with it myriad reasons against it, and the whole community to moderate it. Let us carefully consider the many problems found within the company. There will be trade offs. This is a gigantic balance at play here; missing the important component on the right side of the scale will mean miseries for thousands of people. I do not advocate discussion ad infinitum; I advocate discussion in reasonableness and allowing periodic assessments of its effects.</p>
<p>No one makes mistakes like the way a decision maker must. However to presume mistakes in business as dirty linens that need the hiding is unnecessary and ill-conceived.</p>
<p>A clever seller will understand buyers need to know and feel that they are getting bargain once in a while, at least. A happy buyer will be frequent patron that is good business practice. Gifts that are perceived to have it doubled back are not clever. It is in fact foolish! A clever seller must possess the ability to sell something not only satisfies the customers but also the friends of customers! How they yoke their bloggers will be consistent to how the bloggers speak of them. The manner with which they treat us will be the manner with which we will respond to them when they need us.</p>
<p>In many ways, the expectation is higher; Nuffnang must endear while selling their product. The only way to endear and sell is not to be seen betraying the whole community! This, Nuffnang has not met the standard. They have not been honest in their shortcomings. They have not abided by the critical promises made. They did not provide advertisements to blogs with 20 visits while telling the entire community they had innovated a system for it. They have not given the common a satisfactory explanation of non delivery of the fruits to their method of attracting bloggers to sign up with them. Everyone knows of what they did. They just want thm to come out and say sorry, we cannot deliver. It is not fair to practice non-delivery of promise while at the same time accumulating wealth with celebrity bloggers while the rest of the community are still holding on to the blue logo, providing free advertisement for the company.</p>
<p>Do you, Nuffnang, now promise the same faith?</p>
<p>I will leave it to the incumbent to respond in their time. These are not question from me merely because I asked it! I merely crystallized the vague and existing distrust to the promises of Nuffnang. It I had crystallized it and become criminal, then they Nuffnang had become the criminal of the community!</p>
<p>In the perpetual transactions between Nuffnang and the community, some have considered it exclusively one sided, many will see it as mutually dependent. The time where Nuffnang held the torch of truth is no longer. The time has come for Nuffnang to treat the hwole body populace as unsatisfied customers.</p>
<p>In the age of internet one true unsatisfied customer is no longer weak; can you imagine a whole host of them? Conversely, if you have done it right, the internet will lap your good name like no others! This is the fact. This is the reality. Any good seller that understands the dynamics of selling something will adjust to it and prosper.</p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1756278</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are not special thats why you get it, the rest of the world is special.

Anyway newsletter time.

http://why-nuffnang-will-fail.blogspot.com/2007/11/thirteenth-quintessential-assertion.html

I will dedicate several entries to discussing certain actions by the owner of Nuffnang.

One very important existential question: Why do we see advertisements of Nuffnang hanging on the owner’s personal blog? Why are they allowing themselves to take advantage of the entity created for the community? Why are they competing with bloggers for advertisements? Is Nuffnang a bona fide existence? These questions are very substantial that need to be thought out thoroughly.

All the benefits of Nuffnang are also applicable to the owners and employee of Nuffnang? Are there any conflict of interest? Will they create something for themselves to take advantage of it?

This is not a Nuffnang’s problem; eventhough they created Nuffnang. Are the owners and employee of Nuffnang not also taking advantage of the already insufficient adverts meant for bloggers? This is a fact! They created this entity for community and then they go home and take advantage of this thing they created in order to profit from the same thing they created. For most of the bloggers, they are already not seeing advertisements on their blog. The fact that the owners themselves are augmenting their income by putting the advertisements on their own blog instead of giving it to you. Are there any moral high ground? Should there be a prohibition? Being in control of the business and skimming money off it the way it was for used by the community, can they not violate any rules they had written for bloggers, literally?

To put it simply, they had become your direct competitor! Simply put, for those whose blogs are in need of that little more traffic to receive advertisements, you are not getting any not because you do not have enough traffic but because the owner’s blog is in front of yours! To put it to ground level, they had designed the game and they are playing it themselves!

We want the system to be transparent, like any commercial system in the world! Like the way it did for sports betting! Consumer wants to know the system are not exploited and taken advantage of unfairly within the company! They want the game play fairly not having the people who write the rules playing it too!



To See Bigger Click Here

If Nuffnang is so dull, which I do not think so, let me put it simpler, blogger want advertisements. They want the advertisements that your blog is generating money for you! There is no ground for you to play the game yourself! The mother of all earnings is advertisements! The fact you are earning from it means you are preventing bloggers from earning from something you created for them!

We do not want you the owners to be involved with the game! We want the game to be fairly played by people outside of Nuffnang! With advertisements allocated to nobody related to Nuffnang except the community! Our blog may not have enough traffic to serve but is inconsequential to this, because we want the game to be play fairly! We do not want you trying to eat the cake you baked for community; we want it to be distributed according to the rules you written and have play no part in the game!

You the owner of Nuffnang are not like anybody in community! If you can take part in your own invention and make money out of it, then it is the same as playing goalkeeping in a football match and betting your own team to lose!

Another vast mistake by Nuffnang, while bloggers are being sold the system, they the owners participate themselves in it against the ground of transparency and be seen benefiting at the expenses of the community!

The thirteenth quintessential assertion:
From the invention that they created, they are benefiting from it unfairly. We do not want them able to write rules to favor themselves! We want the rules to be written for community and not applicable to themselves!

Discuss this post in the Asia's First Nuffnang Discussion Forum 

If you find this site helpful, please leave your footprint on this site using the shoutbox on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not special thats why you get it, the rest of the world is special.</p>
<p>Anyway newsletter time.</p>
<p><a href="http://why-nuffnang-will-fail.blogspot.com/2007/11/thirteenth-quintessential-assertion.html" rel="nofollow">http://why-nuffnang-will-fail......rtion.html</a></p>
<p>I will dedicate several entries to discussing certain actions by the owner of Nuffnang.</p>
<p>One very important existential question: Why do we see advertisements of Nuffnang hanging on the owner’s personal blog? Why are they allowing themselves to take advantage of the entity created for the community? Why are they competing with bloggers for advertisements? Is Nuffnang a bona fide existence? These questions are very substantial that need to be thought out thoroughly.</p>
<p>All the benefits of Nuffnang are also applicable to the owners and employee of Nuffnang? Are there any conflict of interest? Will they create something for themselves to take advantage of it?</p>
<p>This is not a Nuffnang’s problem; eventhough they created Nuffnang. Are the owners and employee of Nuffnang not also taking advantage of the already insufficient adverts meant for bloggers? This is a fact! They created this entity for community and then they go home and take advantage of this thing they created in order to profit from the same thing they created. For most of the bloggers, they are already not seeing advertisements on their blog. The fact that the owners themselves are augmenting their income by putting the advertisements on their own blog instead of giving it to you. Are there any moral high ground? Should there be a prohibition? Being in control of the business and skimming money off it the way it was for used by the community, can they not violate any rules they had written for bloggers, literally?</p>
<p>To put it simply, they had become your direct competitor! Simply put, for those whose blogs are in need of that little more traffic to receive advertisements, you are not getting any not because you do not have enough traffic but because the owner’s blog is in front of yours! To put it to ground level, they had designed the game and they are playing it themselves!</p>
<p>We want the system to be transparent, like any commercial system in the world! Like the way it did for sports betting! Consumer wants to know the system are not exploited and taken advantage of unfairly within the company! They want the game play fairly not having the people who write the rules playing it too!</p>
<p>To See Bigger Click Here</p>
<p>If Nuffnang is so dull, which I do not think so, let me put it simpler, blogger want advertisements. They want the advertisements that your blog is generating money for you! There is no ground for you to play the game yourself! The mother of all earnings is advertisements! The fact you are earning from it means you are preventing bloggers from earning from something you created for them!</p>
<p>We do not want you the owners to be involved with the game! We want the game to be fairly played by people outside of Nuffnang! With advertisements allocated to nobody related to Nuffnang except the community! Our blog may not have enough traffic to serve but is inconsequential to this, because we want the game to be play fairly! We do not want you trying to eat the cake you baked for community; we want it to be distributed according to the rules you written and have play no part in the game!</p>
<p>You the owner of Nuffnang are not like anybody in community! If you can take part in your own invention and make money out of it, then it is the same as playing goalkeeping in a football match and betting your own team to lose!</p>
<p>Another vast mistake by Nuffnang, while bloggers are being sold the system, they the owners participate themselves in it against the ground of transparency and be seen benefiting at the expenses of the community!</p>
<p>The thirteenth quintessential assertion:<br />
From the invention that they created, they are benefiting from it unfairly. We do not want them able to write rules to favor themselves! We want the rules to be written for community and not applicable to themselves!</p>
<p>Discuss this post in the Asia&#8217;s First Nuffnang Discussion Forum </p>
<p>If you find this site helpful, please leave your footprint on this site using the shoutbox on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ooi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1755659</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Blogs with small-medium sized traffic were neglected and for good economic reasons as well (they were just too small on their own to command any advertiser dollar). That however, was something both Ming and I were not willing to accept. We envisioned a website that could offer a piece of the action to as many bloggers as we can, even those that have as low as 20 unique visits a day. Attempting to cover these smaller blogs proved risky but we innovated and built a system that would solve the problems surrounding such an action. ” 

Good that you quote that. My latest traffic is about 99 visitors a day and I have Nuffnang ads showing on my blog. Don't tell me I'm 'special' again :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Blogs with small-medium sized traffic were neglected and for good economic reasons as well (they were just too small on their own to command any advertiser dollar). That however, was something both Ming and I were not willing to accept. We envisioned a website that could offer a piece of the action to as many bloggers as we can, even those that have as low as 20 unique visits a day. Attempting to cover these smaller blogs proved risky but we innovated and built a system that would solve the problems surrounding such an action. ” </p>
<p>Good that you quote that. My latest traffic is about 99 visitors a day and I have Nuffnang ads showing on my blog. Don&#8217;t tell me I&#8217;m &#8217;special&#8217; again <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1754873</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Nuffnang insist on 20 unique visits?

Why did Nuffnang’s registration be based on a minimum 20 unique visits knowing that in due course 20 unique visits will not be selected by advertisers due to inferior exposure? I have always doubted the intention of that prerequisite. Are those blogs going to get advertisements?

They released information about the business model and proclaim to have innovated a system that could give advertisements to blogs as long they achieved 20 unique counters. Proof

Did their business model have a solid system in providing? How did they? Given the fact that their business model evolve around advertisers predominantly selecting where they want their advertisement to go, from a business perspective, it should not come as intellectual surprise that the system they proclaim to have will fail as a means to allow advertiser to exercise that right.

I do not believe Nuffnang does not know the idea they are selling will create dissatisfaction in the community which could lead to a dilemma. What happened? What is so reckless is not what it was not noted, but rather after almost 10 months, no one in Nuffnang called their business model spade!

A whole community of bloggers deceived!

Why? There is something really wrong here.

Even google lets you register if you have lesser than 20 counters! Why then imposing a 20 counters on a registration? If they had known in the beginning blogs with 20 counters would not get the advertisements, why are they operating their subscription service at a limit of 20 counters? Is there something peculiar about their actual business model that is not distinctly similar to the hundreds we have on the market already? Why not remove the 20 counters limit and let any blog to register for the service too if 20 are not going to serve advertisements?

I do not believe it is due to ignorance, it is something I do not understand?

There are already widespread allegation of the company being a scammer, why has the allegation being ignored even till today? A few weeks could have made the essential difference between the doable and the impossible! I do not believe that the disatisfaction was not predicted even earlier! Nuffnang operated a system with that business model, as early as February, when they were launched!

"&lt;b&gt;Blogs with small-medium sized traffic were neglected and for good economic reasons as well (they were just too small on their own to command any advertiser dollar). That however, was something both Ming and I were not willing to accept. We envisioned a website that could offer a piece of the action to as many bloggers as we can, even those that have as low as 20 unique visits a day. Attempting to cover these smaller blogs proved risky but we innovated and built a system that would solve the problems surrounding such an action.&lt;/b&gt; " Direct from the mouth of the founder!

The owners are not only astute, they are savvy! So ignorance is out!

The owners have been an astute businessman since when? Celebrity blogs were getting good advertisements, partly at least, why then are blogs with 20 counters not having? They could not have been ignorant! Were they?

Or was the reason simply because they cannot serve advertisements on all blogs doesn’t matter they have 20 or 200 counters? One side had to give, which side do you think they chose? However the owners played it, it is only so much advertiser. It is the advertisers that help the company to make money. The only difference is you have celebrity bloggers and non-celebrity bloggers. One end is high traffic and the other end is low traffic. How does having 20 counters in your blog means you can make money from Nuffnang for sure? Isn’t that what they sold you in the first place?

The twelfth quintessential question for your representative: Did Nuffnang know that the business model they sold to the public would never be sufficient in providing for all blogs with 20 counters? Why was it still been sold to the community and to release statements that their operation is made to provide for blogs with 20 counters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Nuffnang insist on 20 unique visits?</p>
<p>Why did Nuffnang’s registration be based on a minimum 20 unique visits knowing that in due course 20 unique visits will not be selected by advertisers due to inferior exposure? I have always doubted the intention of that prerequisite. Are those blogs going to get advertisements?</p>
<p>They released information about the business model and proclaim to have innovated a system that could give advertisements to blogs as long they achieved 20 unique counters. Proof</p>
<p>Did their business model have a solid system in providing? How did they? Given the fact that their business model evolve around advertisers predominantly selecting where they want their advertisement to go, from a business perspective, it should not come as intellectual surprise that the system they proclaim to have will fail as a means to allow advertiser to exercise that right.</p>
<p>I do not believe Nuffnang does not know the idea they are selling will create dissatisfaction in the community which could lead to a dilemma. What happened? What is so reckless is not what it was not noted, but rather after almost 10 months, no one in Nuffnang called their business model spade!</p>
<p>A whole community of bloggers deceived!</p>
<p>Why? There is something really wrong here.</p>
<p>Even google lets you register if you have lesser than 20 counters! Why then imposing a 20 counters on a registration? If they had known in the beginning blogs with 20 counters would not get the advertisements, why are they operating their subscription service at a limit of 20 counters? Is there something peculiar about their actual business model that is not distinctly similar to the hundreds we have on the market already? Why not remove the 20 counters limit and let any blog to register for the service too if 20 are not going to serve advertisements?</p>
<p>I do not believe it is due to ignorance, it is something I do not understand?</p>
<p>There are already widespread allegation of the company being a scammer, why has the allegation being ignored even till today? A few weeks could have made the essential difference between the doable and the impossible! I do not believe that the disatisfaction was not predicted even earlier! Nuffnang operated a system with that business model, as early as February, when they were launched!</p>
<p>&#8220;<b>Blogs with small-medium sized traffic were neglected and for good economic reasons as well (they were just too small on their own to command any advertiser dollar). That however, was something both Ming and I were not willing to accept. We envisioned a website that could offer a piece of the action to as many bloggers as we can, even those that have as low as 20 unique visits a day. Attempting to cover these smaller blogs proved risky but we innovated and built a system that would solve the problems surrounding such an action.</b> &#8221; Direct from the mouth of the founder!</p>
<p>The owners are not only astute, they are savvy! So ignorance is out!</p>
<p>The owners have been an astute businessman since when? Celebrity blogs were getting good advertisements, partly at least, why then are blogs with 20 counters not having? They could not have been ignorant! Were they?</p>
<p>Or was the reason simply because they cannot serve advertisements on all blogs doesn’t matter they have 20 or 200 counters? One side had to give, which side do you think they chose? However the owners played it, it is only so much advertiser. It is the advertisers that help the company to make money. The only difference is you have celebrity bloggers and non-celebrity bloggers. One end is high traffic and the other end is low traffic. How does having 20 counters in your blog means you can make money from Nuffnang for sure? Isn’t that what they sold you in the first place?</p>
<p>The twelfth quintessential question for your representative: Did Nuffnang know that the business model they sold to the public would never be sufficient in providing for all blogs with 20 counters? Why was it still been sold to the community and to release statements that their operation is made to provide for blogs with 20 counters?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1752393</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fundamental mistake of the architect is the failure to understand the community. One who understands passion will understand community. The architect can possess passion for business but that cannot curb the essence of community. The existence of Nuffnang with all its mistakes comes with a catchphrase: Community.

Community is inherent in humanity. Passion is the quintessential exercise of being human. In the name of whatever, blogger that desires to part of the community must decide: to allow Nuffnang to delimit community or make it absolutely abundant which will negate the scammer’s existence.

The architect has not allowed Nuffnang community to delimit intelligently or otherwise, the point will come where any act in delimiting is merely carried out to ensure its own existence!

That is the essential dichotomy of Nuffnang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fundamental mistake of the architect is the failure to understand the community. One who understands passion will understand community. The architect can possess passion for business but that cannot curb the essence of community. The existence of Nuffnang with all its mistakes comes with a catchphrase: Community.</p>
<p>Community is inherent in humanity. Passion is the quintessential exercise of being human. In the name of whatever, blogger that desires to part of the community must decide: to allow Nuffnang to delimit community or make it absolutely abundant which will negate the scammer’s existence.</p>
<p>The architect has not allowed Nuffnang community to delimit intelligently or otherwise, the point will come where any act in delimiting is merely carried out to ensure its own existence!</p>
<p>That is the essential dichotomy of Nuffnang.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1752159</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy&#62; Now it is no longer the equation of $1.

Are you sent by the Nuffnang team? I hope you are.

The inevitability of doom is apparently to bloggers now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in the design of Nuffnang model. The architect designed the system; the one without sustainability is doomed because promises cannot be delivered, which community wonders how to the architect can still be perfection.

Many solutions offered whereby prominent bloggers accepted their imperfection, as long as they deem not functioned, and accept it as fundamentally flawed. The architect builds an illusion of hope, while it works 99% of the time but only anomaly. The one percent of the time existed to those who still seek to benefit from the system, even when disregard the 99% of time but not possible because 99% are devoted to celebrities who are partners, thus DOOM( as in essence of the One percent).

I can see the chain reaction – the chemical precursors that signal the onset of an emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic and reason. Hope it is the quintessential human delusion… the source of our greatest strength: which bring us at least to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed.

The Architect concluded the model he designed was quite naturally perfect (the one with flaws)

The Architect concluded that the only perfect model is one what 1000 can do (perfect in the eye of the Architect). In the end, it must be the reason what 1000 can do for the entity, though emotion and hopes of community are of the illusion what 1000 can do for them, still the architect knows the disparity and understood the impossibility but live by the excellence of the design is not acceptable to the community now however perfect it may be in his eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy&gt; Now it is no longer the equation of $1.</p>
<p>Are you sent by the Nuffnang team? I hope you are.</p>
<p>The inevitability of doom is apparently to bloggers now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in the design of Nuffnang model. The architect designed the system; the one without sustainability is doomed because promises cannot be delivered, which community wonders how to the architect can still be perfection.</p>
<p>Many solutions offered whereby prominent bloggers accepted their imperfection, as long as they deem not functioned, and accept it as fundamentally flawed. The architect builds an illusion of hope, while it works 99% of the time but only anomaly. The one percent of the time existed to those who still seek to benefit from the system, even when disregard the 99% of time but not possible because 99% are devoted to celebrities who are partners, thus DOOM( as in essence of the One percent).</p>
<p>I can see the chain reaction – the chemical precursors that signal the onset of an emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic and reason. Hope it is the quintessential human delusion… the source of our greatest strength: which bring us at least to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed.</p>
<p>The Architect concluded the model he designed was quite naturally perfect (the one with flaws)</p>
<p>The Architect concluded that the only perfect model is one what 1000 can do (perfect in the eye of the Architect). In the end, it must be the reason what 1000 can do for the entity, though emotion and hopes of community are of the illusion what 1000 can do for them, still the architect knows the disparity and understood the impossibility but live by the excellence of the design is not acceptable to the community now however perfect it may be in his eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1752049</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash Out Fees Is No Go

The position is very clear, if Nuffnang is a device created to make use of tail end blogs to advertise for advertisement in celebrity blogs, it is not acceptable. That is the foreground. What is the background?

One, no advertisements.

Two, the promises of including tail end bloggers in their business model are yet to satisfy the fiduciary duty of bloggers

Three, blogs with good traffic still earn pittance.

Four, if money from advertisers in extremity which hasn’t been paid commensurately to bloggers, then charges is unnecessary.

Five, Nuffnang had proven it cannot manage expectation of community and cannot now be trusted with such extreme measures.

Six, any amendment of their TOS must be seen to be genuinely benefaction to community at the very least;

Seven, Nuffnang does not have the moral high ground to ask for more loyalty

Eight, Nuffnang have not been living up to the true community dot comer, and cannot now be trusted with another shot of loyalty.

Nine, Failure to analyze of deep consequences on their business pattern has not stopped the community of deep analyzing and it’s refusal to be responsible is not acceptable to the community.

Ten, Fundamental problem of their business model has not been resolved, implementation of cheque charges is only adding to the problem.

Eleven, Community impact of the charges and advertisements for tail end bloggers (this is very serious because it is the reason why they joined in the first place) have not been examined carefully as any promises not delivered would be deem as a scam.


Ladies and gentlemen, they are expired. Argumentum ad ignorantiam. From whence they come from, that will be where they go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash Out Fees Is No Go</p>
<p>The position is very clear, if Nuffnang is a device created to make use of tail end blogs to advertise for advertisement in celebrity blogs, it is not acceptable. That is the foreground. What is the background?</p>
<p>One, no advertisements.</p>
<p>Two, the promises of including tail end bloggers in their business model are yet to satisfy the fiduciary duty of bloggers</p>
<p>Three, blogs with good traffic still earn pittance.</p>
<p>Four, if money from advertisers in extremity which hasn’t been paid commensurately to bloggers, then charges is unnecessary.</p>
<p>Five, Nuffnang had proven it cannot manage expectation of community and cannot now be trusted with such extreme measures.</p>
<p>Six, any amendment of their TOS must be seen to be genuinely benefaction to community at the very least;</p>
<p>Seven, Nuffnang does not have the moral high ground to ask for more loyalty</p>
<p>Eight, Nuffnang have not been living up to the true community dot comer, and cannot now be trusted with another shot of loyalty.</p>
<p>Nine, Failure to analyze of deep consequences on their business pattern has not stopped the community of deep analyzing and it’s refusal to be responsible is not acceptable to the community.</p>
<p>Ten, Fundamental problem of their business model has not been resolved, implementation of cheque charges is only adding to the problem.</p>
<p>Eleven, Community impact of the charges and advertisements for tail end bloggers (this is very serious because it is the reason why they joined in the first place) have not been examined carefully as any promises not delivered would be deem as a scam.</p>
<p>Ladies and gentlemen, they are expired. Argumentum ad ignorantiam. From whence they come from, that will be where they go.</p>
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		<title>By: nadia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1751304</link>
		<dc:creator>nadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>be it advertlets or nuffnang, their policies are unclear. terms and conditions upon signing up are not explicit enough.. not all bloggers get ads, most of the time bloggers are displaying free nuffnang or advertlets ads..they are taking advantage of bloggers' space.. and yet they want to charge them..where are the ethics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be it advertlets or nuffnang, their policies are unclear. terms and conditions upon signing up are not explicit enough.. not all bloggers get ads, most of the time bloggers are displaying free nuffnang or advertlets ads..they are taking advantage of bloggers&#8217; space.. and yet they want to charge them..where are the ethics?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ooi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1751268</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1751268</guid>
		<description>ha ha.. Nuffnang should pay you for the PR you are giving them. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha.. Nuffnang should pay you for the PR you are giving them. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1751197</link>
		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy: Yes, indeed funny. For a moment I thought you are representing Nuffnang. haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy: Yes, indeed funny. For a moment I thought you are representing Nuffnang. haha.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1750562</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1750562</guid>
		<description>It's funny I'm defending Nuffnang. I don't even have their ads on my blog!!

But I simply hate a holier than thou attitude of Techcrunch commenting on the Asian Ad marketplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny I&#8217;m defending Nuffnang. I don&#8217;t even have their ads on my blog!!</p>
<p>But I simply hate a holier than thou attitude of Techcrunch commenting on the Asian Ad marketplace.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1750560</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1750560</guid>
		<description>Why should they reply here, at Techcrunch police station?

They have already replied and explained on their website.

What oether explanation are you waiting for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should they reply here, at Techcrunch police station?</p>
<p>They have already replied and explained on their website.</p>
<p>What oether explanation are you waiting for?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1749663</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 week already. No reply from Nuffnang.

This really reflect very badly on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 week already. No reply from Nuffnang.</p>
<p>This really reflect very badly on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1748590</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1748590</guid>
		<description>For all cash outs, there will be a transaction fee of $1 imposed from November onwards. This is to cover costs like postage, cheques (which the bank charge us a transaction fee for), materials, and handling.
The ability to cash out at $50 is something we are particularly proud of. As most of you will know, there are payment terms involved when a deal is done. What this means is that the advertiser pays only after 2-3 months after a campaign has ENDED. The fact that a significant number of bloggers cash out immediately after the campaign ends means that we are paying out even before being paid!  Google Adsense as an example has a cashout threshold of $100 US. As much as possible, we will try to keep the cash out as low as possible so the smaller bloggers can cash out sooner rather than later. This is the main motivation for keeping it at $50. 

The transaction fee of $1 has seemed a controversial decision to some, however, is necessary considering the growing size of the community, and also rising costs. The main bulk of this transaction fee is used to cover bank charges for the processing of cheques. Up till now it has been absorbed.

taken from http://nuffnang.com.sg/blog/?p=46

What other "explanation" do you want ?

Why you are not making money with your low traffic?

Go chop down that tree. Remove Nuffnang from your blog. And most important of all - SHUT UP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all cash outs, there will be a transaction fee of $1 imposed from November onwards. This is to cover costs like postage, cheques (which the bank charge us a transaction fee for), materials, and handling.<br />
The ability to cash out at $50 is something we are particularly proud of. As most of you will know, there are payment terms involved when a deal is done. What this means is that the advertiser pays only after 2-3 months after a campaign has ENDED. The fact that a significant number of bloggers cash out immediately after the campaign ends means that we are paying out even before being paid!  Google Adsense as an example has a cashout threshold of $100 US. As much as possible, we will try to keep the cash out as low as possible so the smaller bloggers can cash out sooner rather than later. This is the main motivation for keeping it at $50. </p>
<p>The transaction fee of $1 has seemed a controversial decision to some, however, is necessary considering the growing size of the community, and also rising costs. The main bulk of this transaction fee is used to cover bank charges for the processing of cheques. Up till now it has been absorbed.</p>
<p>taken from <a href="http://nuffnang.com.sg/blog/?p=46" rel="nofollow">http://nuffnang.com.sg/blog/?p=46</a></p>
<p>What other &#8220;explanation&#8221; do you want ?</p>
<p>Why you are not making money with your low traffic?</p>
<p>Go chop down that tree. Remove Nuffnang from your blog. And most important of all - SHUT UP</p>
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		<title>By: astro</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1748553</link>
		<dc:creator>astro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1748553</guid>
		<description>Yeah Nuffnang you better response. After all we are bloggers and our feedback must be credible and definitely the truth. What we say must be the best of you because we know exactly what is going on. With so many blogs saying the same thing, you are definitely in the wrong

This is the new age. It is not only your real customers, but also bloggers who might not even use your service before, that will kill you off the face of Internet with our mighty words. 

How dare you fools not heed our words and advice! How can you simply not respond since so many people say bad things about you, it must definitely be true. I don't care if you have read strategy that tells you that sometime not taking action is the best strategy. This is Internet, if you can't get it solve by 24 hours, you are so dead!

I don't care if you are doing something right or trying to spend more effort to get more advertisers to live up to our expectation. Does that mean that you don't have to respond to me. I am not a celebrity and is that why you did not respond? How dare you look down on me! The fact you did not respond to bloggers means you are going die a terrible death.

Come out Nuffnang and give a respond. With that everyone will come back to support you. Even if my blogs sucks and does not generate $$$ for me, i will still love you and display your ads for you. 

If you don't respond, even though i am making tons of money i am going to leave your stupid network.

And please remove that stupid withdrawal limit. Do you expect me to read and understand your terms of service? Don't play punk with me by reducing the limit to $50. I know what you are thinking. You trying to make that extra $1 from me! Repent!

Repent and perhaps the owner of why nuffnang will fail blogsite will take pity on you and change its name to why nuffnang will succeed! 

I am a blogger and i can make the loudest noise so don't mess with me.

I am trying to help you....repent and i might let you off this time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Nuffnang you better response. After all we are bloggers and our feedback must be credible and definitely the truth. What we say must be the best of you because we know exactly what is going on. With so many blogs saying the same thing, you are definitely in the wrong</p>
<p>This is the new age. It is not only your real customers, but also bloggers who might not even use your service before, that will kill you off the face of Internet with our mighty words. </p>
<p>How dare you fools not heed our words and advice! How can you simply not respond since so many people say bad things about you, it must definitely be true. I don&#8217;t care if you have read strategy that tells you that sometime not taking action is the best strategy. This is Internet, if you can&#8217;t get it solve by 24 hours, you are so dead!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if you are doing something right or trying to spend more effort to get more advertisers to live up to our expectation. Does that mean that you don&#8217;t have to respond to me. I am not a celebrity and is that why you did not respond? How dare you look down on me! The fact you did not respond to bloggers means you are going die a terrible death.</p>
<p>Come out Nuffnang and give a respond. With that everyone will come back to support you. Even if my blogs sucks and does not generate $$$ for me, i will still love you and display your ads for you. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t respond, even though i am making tons of money i am going to leave your stupid network.</p>
<p>And please remove that stupid withdrawal limit. Do you expect me to read and understand your terms of service? Don&#8217;t play punk with me by reducing the limit to $50. I know what you are thinking. You trying to make that extra $1 from me! Repent!</p>
<p>Repent and perhaps the owner of why nuffnang will fail blogsite will take pity on you and change its name to why nuffnang will succeed! </p>
<p>I am a blogger and i can make the loudest noise so don&#8217;t mess with me.</p>
<p>I am trying to help you&#8230;.repent and i might let you off this time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nuffnang and Advertlets are like Durian Trees : Andrew Ooi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1748377</link>
		<dc:creator>Nuffnang and Advertlets are like Durian Trees : Andrew Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1748377</guid>
		<description>[...] I am still mad about Techcrunch&#8217;s article bullying Nuffnang [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I am still mad about Techcrunch&#8217;s article bullying Nuffnang [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nuffnang Supporter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1747511</link>
		<dc:creator>Nuffnang Supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1747511</guid>
		<description>Now like many other supporters we are feeling so stupid to have been so supportive when it first started only to be leave high and dry with no clear and proper explanation. Sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now like many other supporters we are feeling so stupid to have been so supportive when it first started only to be leave high and dry with no clear and proper explanation. Sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuffnang Supporter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1747494</link>
		<dc:creator>Nuffnang Supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1747494</guid>
		<description>I am disappointed that till date there is no official reply from nuffnang. I am leaving the stupid network as the only thing that is keeping others from doing so is because of the money that it neither meeting the minimum or too little to withdrawn.

Since nuffnang is not interested in clarifying despite such a outcry there is no point to support them at all. These guys are only interested to appear when the money is rolling but hide under the bed when problem arises. What jerks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed that till date there is no official reply from nuffnang. I am leaving the stupid network as the only thing that is keeping others from doing so is because of the money that it neither meeting the minimum or too little to withdrawn.</p>
<p>Since nuffnang is not interested in clarifying despite such a outcry there is no point to support them at all. These guys are only interested to appear when the money is rolling but hide under the bed when problem arises. What jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1746137</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1746137</guid>
		<description>You're quite right, only thing is there are no megaphone here. If you want to read, you read. If you don't want to read, you dont read. No one has shove it up your ear or eyes in this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re quite right, only thing is there are no megaphone here. If you want to read, you read. If you don&#8217;t want to read, you dont read. No one has shove it up your ear or eyes in this matter.</p>
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